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Are there any books similar to 'The End of History and the Last Man' but are more informative and not pushing one position or another? I want a boarder history about the idea of 'the inevitability of the supremacy of liberal democracy'.

>> No.14403436

He got 16 years because he had multiple felonies and constantly recommitted crimes before committing arson of church property but keep pretending its the end of history

>> No.14403446

>>14403411
What books to understand "idpol" both as an intellectual movement and/or a sociological phenomena? And the new-left in general. Don't say Roger Scruton his book is mostly interested in sterile philosophy without drawing connections to political realities.

>> No.14403464

>>14403436
oops, I should have included 'pic unrelated' to the op

>> No.14403465

>>14403436
>church property
It was not Church property. It was "church" property. Heretics and their institutions should be burned as the Angelic Doctor prescribes.

>> No.14403471

>>14403465
thats what he said you autistic spic retard

>> No.14403490

>>14403471
No, he said church property, which meant an imposter organization is given rights and privileges it shouldn't have. Protestant "churches" have no claim to property rights or legal protections.

>> No.14403517

>>14403411
westerners aren't people

>> No.14403617

>>14403446
respond to this you goddamn losers the only people commenting on this shit are youtubers? that cant be fucking answer

>> No.14403637

>>14403490
yes, "church" property, not "Church" property. As in a building.
This is what being both ESL and schizo will do to you.

>> No.14403640

>>14403517
America is in the Eastern timezone, therefore I disagree with you, as it should be said that easterners aren't people

>> No.14403749

>>14403464
yeah but you're an ideologue pushing dogma, so you didn't..

GR by the way

>> No.14403867

>>14403436
Good to know. Fuckin' tabloid journalism and tabloid-journalism-brainlets.

>> No.14404536

>>14403436
>Pretending any of that justifies 16 years for a fag flag

Neck yourself tranny.

>> No.14404545

>>14403411
You dont know what you dont know you are talking about

>> No.14404551

>>14403411
Fukuyama isn’t pushing liberal democracy, and his last books reverse his prior decision.

>> No.14404598

>>14403436
This.

fake news frame it this way to scare nazis and it worked lmao

>> No.14404605

The church pastor said "And when that happens it's so important that as a society we stand up and people have severe consequences for those actions."
What happened to turn the other cheek and he who is without sin and all that?

>> No.14404612

>>14403411
Holy fucking based. Now if only liberals weren't always this afraid of cracking down on reactionaries.

>> No.14404637

>>14403411
He should have got more

>> No.14404850

>>14404612
>>14404637
dilate

>> No.14404899

i wish every poltard got jailed for 16 years

actually they should all get the death penalty

>> No.14404906

>>14403411
Jean Baudrillard's “Anorexic Ruins” and "The End of the Illusion" if you aren't the sort of person that throws a tif at the slightest mention of postmodernity.

>> No.14404935

>>14404899
That makes you just as bad as them. Everyone has a right to their stupid opinions and every idea should stand scrutiny on its own merit.
The fact we are living in a world where poltards are multiplying, speaks volumes about the quality of the education the mass is receiving.

>> No.14404966

>>14404598
>>14403867
>>14403436
suddenly you faggots like the american justice system

>> No.14404972

>>14404899
leftists are a truly lol-inducing mix of feeble moralizing and hysterical venom. you're all such fucking faggots it's ridiculous

>> No.14404978

>>14404899
This, poltards should be shot on sight and their property redistributed to the poor and destitute.

>> No.14404985

>>14403411
So... you want books on liberal teleology?

>> No.14404993

>>14404972
truly epic lol my trumplesir! *tips fedora*

>> No.14405000

>>14404993
i need to know how you nerds develop this mindset, this unfunny regurgitated irony persona where nothing you say is genuine except when you advocate for children chemically castrating themselves with hormones

>> No.14405002

>>14404993
you have to pray to nigger trannies lol

>> No.14405007
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>>14404899
>>14404972
>>14404978
>>14404993
Leftism is a totalitarian force. Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism; everything contrary to leftist beliefs represents Sin. More importantly, leftism is a totalitarian force because of the leftists’ drive for power. The leftist seeks to satisfy his need for power through identification with a social movement and he tries to go through the power process by helping to pursue and attain the goals of the movement (see paragraph 83). But no matter how far the movement has gone in attaining its goals the leftist is never satisfied, because his activism is a surrogate activity (see paragraph 41). That is, the leftist’s real motive is not to attain the ostensible goals of leftism; in reality he is motivated by the sense of power he gets from struggling for and then reaching a social goal. [35] Consequently the leftist is never satisfied with the goals he has already attained; his need for the power process leads him always to pursue some new goal. The leftist wants equal opportunities for minorities. When that is attained he insists on statistical equality of achievement by minorities. And as long as anyone harbors in some corner of his mind a negative attitude toward some minority, the leftist has to re-educate him. And ethnic minorities are not enough; no one can be allowed to have a negative attitude toward homosexuals, disabled people, fat people, old people, ugly people, and on and on and on.

>> No.14405010
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14405010

>i need to know how you nerds develop this mindset, this unfunny regurgitated irony persona where nothing you say is genuine except when you advocate for children chemically castrating themselves with hormones

>> No.14405013

>>14405010
You'll never be a woman

>> No.14405022

>antifa thugs keep running free after multiple violent attack
>some guy goes to jail after burning a flag
Clown world

>> No.14405030

>>14405007
poltards say the same inflammatory shit whenever theres an antileftist thread shut the fuck up larper

>> No.14405034

>>14405007
dude. your brain is like mashed potatoes. i want to reach out to help you but i don't even know where to begin.

>> No.14405050

>>14405030
>>14405034
This stuff was written 25 years ago and it all came true

>> No.14405060

>>14405022
Based antifa. How does it feel that the cops you worship designated you as right wing terrorists?

>> No.14405064

>>14405050
it's not really that big of an accomplishment, this stuff is very easily observable in leftists. the problem is that they never own up to it because they're massive pussies and never compromise their victim mentality

>> No.14405066

>>14405050
luddite literature has existed for far longer, try again.

>> No.14405072

>>14405060
>the cops you worship
You have this backwards. The right want to arm themselves because they dont trust the cops or the government in general. Antifa larp as rebels while actually being the pets of the neoliberal establishment

>> No.14405107

>>14403465
Funniest part of this is that the gay flag is church property. Fucking Protestants lol.

>> No.14405121

>>14405060
So they were projecting about the whole bootlicking thing? Pretty funny, maybe thats why its the leftists favorite insult. Just depends whos wearing the boots

>> No.14405161

>>14405000
lack of a father figure and male role models. thats why they all act like women lol

>> No.14405174

>>14403436
>>14403867
>>14404598
>>14404966
>If the object Martinez burned had been a neutral one (for example, a banner or flag bearing the logo of a brand of beer) then his third-degree arson conviction would not have been enhanced as a hate crime, and he would have received a sentence of no more than two years in prison, likely yielding a total sentence of three years, taking into account the one-year sentence he received for reckless use of fire. So it’s true that the fact it was an LGBT rainbow flag, specifically, did cause Martinez’ punishment to be increased. Because the hate crime enhancement converted the arson offense from an aggravated misdemeanor to a Class D felony, it also triggered the habitual offender mechanism.
lol retarded trannies

>> No.14405186

>>14403465
BASED

>> No.14405201

>>14405174
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>> No.14405202

>>14403436
How can it not be the end times when sodomy is literally normalized?

>> No.14405217

>>14405202
because my heart's still beating

>> No.14405221

>>14403517
Absolutely true. The US was founded as the first true left-wing country. Individualism, defiance of tradition and authority, Economicentrism, rejection of manifested institution as the unifying glue of society. 20 minutes later 80 IQ right wingers are surprised and blame the world and the left keeps getting more and more degenerate. Who would have thought

>> No.14405235

>>14405202
the world didn't end when everyone in athens was bumming

>> No.14405253

>>14405072
Typical american. Fml you guys don't get anything

>> No.14405269

>>14405201
I don't know much about arson laws but normally when sentencing you don't break up words with arbitrary line breaks and full stops.

Hope that helps

>> No.14405286

>Was unrepentent when sentenced.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

>> No.14405304

Imagine defending a violent spic convict lmao

>> No.14405308

>>14405304
>Petty property crime
>Violent

>> No.14405319

>>14405253
even Marx was opposed to disarming the people you bootlicker

>> No.14405361

>>14405308
>reading comprehension

>> No.14405365

>>14405308
>threatening to burn down a bar
>not violent
Christfags are unbearable

>> No.14405380

>>14405365
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BURN DOWN MY GAY BAR!!!!!!

>> No.14405399

>>14405380
Go live in a fantastic trad country like fucking mexico lmao

>> No.14405411

>>14405399
go live inside your boyfriends shithole of you love it so much

>> No.14405495

>>14403411
How many years would I get if I were to burn the flag of Israel?

>> No.14405634
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>>14404993
Eugenics is the solution all world suffering and you just despise people who understand that.

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>>14405010
Why do you cunts always use images of ugly people to denigrate your opponents when eugenics could just prevent said uggos from being brought into the world. If you hate uggos then why always the false moral panics against eugenics?

>> No.14405773

>>14405064
The only victim mentality is snowflakes like you thinking leftist are to blame for your own shortcomings in life.

>> No.14405776

>end of history
This isn't a tangible thing to them. It's sort of an afterlife where god (here represented by academia) selects them to heaven (right side of history) by saying nice things about them and the movements they supported in the textbooks of the future.

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>>14405773
What a retarded low IQ take on life, please kill yourself but before you do please actually fucking reply to my previous unanswered prescient questions regarding eugenics.

>> No.14405786

>>14405773
reading this post is like watching a toddler manage to stand up and look around excitedly waiting for praise

>> No.14405788

>>14405634
Lovecraft was a mentally ill loser. Why use his words for your arguement?

>> No.14405792

>>14405653
Agreed, your voting history should be published and if you voted Trump you should be immediately executed.

>> No.14405804

>>14403411
i believe alexander dugin talks about this in 4pt. something about so much monotonic liberalism that it goes out of control and liberates us from our own existence or something then time stops.

>> No.14405805

He probably would have gotten less time if he had set an actual fag on fire instead of the fag flag

>> No.14405807

>>14405174
>Reyes said that while her organization is appreciative of the seriousness of the crime, it does not see how the long sentence "accomplishes any of those goals." "We will continue to strive for a justice system which values restoration over punishment and helps individuals like Adolfo Martinez understand the harm that they've caused." Story County Attorney Jessica Reynolds told KCCI since Martinez has a long history of harassment and was also charged as a habitual offender, he faced a harsher penalty. "I believe him to be very dangerous," Reynolds said. "That's why my office recommended the maximum sentence."

lol retarded nazi

>> No.14405808

>>14405773
So its not the systems fault im a failure?

>> No.14405814

>>14405072
>You have this backwards. The right want to arm themselves because they dont trust the cops or the government in general. Antifa larp as rebels while actually being the pets of the neoliberal establishment
Yeah Antifa only exist because the local governments in the likes of Portland intentionally prevent the police from policing them, effectively subsidizing them as an extension of the state. Funnily enough this is also why they never gain any traction elsewhere, they have no actual competence and get their asses beat when they try to show up in Arizona or something.

>>14405107
>Funniest part of this is that the gay flag is church property. Fucking Protestants lol
This honestly. Why not join a real church instead? You cannot be a Christian and support homosexuality. The guy may as well have tried to burn down a Mosque or Synagogue for them not being properly Christian, it's a total non sequitur. Fucking protestants indeed.

>> No.14405825

>>14405007
>based Ted wrote this in 1995
It really makes you think

>> No.14405828

>>14405007
Congratulations, you fell for a strawman postulated by an unironic schizo autist, you paragon of mental integrity you

>> No.14405831

>>14405814
>Yeah Antifa only exist because the local governments in the likes of Portland intentionally prevent the police from policing them
antifa only exist to beat down nazis and it worked lol, richard spencer can't go outside anymore

>> No.14405837

>>14405831
Nah that's not the only reason

>> No.14405856

>>14405814
It really is sad how badly the left has managed to ruin the west coast and the pacific northwest. Places like Seattle, Portland, and even California used to be really nice places to live. Now they are total shitholes full of the mentally ill and the homeless, and I offer those as 2 distinct groups, since the leftist advocating for their shithole is way crazier than the deranged meth addicts they encourage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

Hope they enjoy their throne of broken needles and human feces, I guess.

>> No.14405869

>>14405773
The left has colonized all social space, including language itself. One must ritualistically allow the left to put a gun to your head in order to partake in even the most basic of social activity.

>> No.14405884

>>14405856
b-b-but nazis

>> No.14405885

>>14405814
>effectively subsidizing them as an extension of the state.
Not an extinction. The goal is to become the legitimate source of violence and gain a monopoly on it, essentially making them take the place of the state itself for all functional purposes.

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>>14405856
That's because they have to subsidize right wing shitholes.

>> No.14405909

>>14405856
Seattle is legitimately one of the most disgusting places I have ever been, and I've spent half my life in the middle east. It's more of a third world country than Afghanistan in many ways.

>> No.14405933

>>14405887
Gains from the globalized economy literally exist to tear metropolitan areas away from the nation and into a global network of cities. The vast majority of the profits made in cities should be seized and distributed to urban and rural populations.

>> No.14405935

>>14405773
>understand
Yawn. This strawman is old and tired

>> No.14405948

>>14405933
That's what the image shows. The right wing cannot govern.

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>>14405788
Well he achieved more than you and is an extremy influential writer who has inspired millions. Be was also right.
>>14405792
Well, I'm not an Amerimongrel and I didn't vote Trump so suits me.

>> No.14405980

>>14405948
I'm not disputing the image. I'm only saying that it's within the national interest to tax cities even more than we already do.

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>>14405887

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>>14405831
>antifa only exists to enforce dysgenic policy and to chase down those suspected of resisting niggerfication
Do you like having autism.

>> No.14406031

>>14403464
You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less will known is this - NEVER post an image more interesting than the thread topic! A HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAH AHA

>> No.14406064

>>14405869
Well that’s how colonialism works mate. The strong control the weak that’s how the world works. I can’t believe I have to tell a right winger something he always tells me. You’re the ones saying the strong should control the weak. Now we are the strong. We should control you.

>> No.14406075

>>14406064
I'm making no moral claims; I'm just stating the facts of the matter. I want you to know that I appreciate your honesty; all too often leftists are unwilling to let sacrifice their underdog image for the truth.

>> No.14406087

>>14406064
The left hates strength, they are only dominating because they are being used by bigger forces

>> No.14406092

>>14405828
Nice ad hominem lefty

>> No.14406104

>>14406092
He wasn't arguing against my point. Just agreeing and gloating about it. His honesty is refreshing, and seeing one of them so openly state it is highly admirable as long as he doesn't start wringing his hands every time some porcine communist gets hit by a car or something.

>> No.14406109

>>14406064
>we

>> No.14406123

>>14406075
>>14406109
I’m not exactly being a leftist I was just using right winger hierarchy logic to explain.
I’m kind of a libertarian who believes in the free market.

>>14406087
I could say the same about you.
The bigger forces are all that matter. 80% of people are just followers, 20% create the content. Even on social media.

>> No.14406124

>>14405948
is that why the left are constantly fleeing the crime-ridden shitholes they create

>> No.14406130

GUYS REDDIT IS LAUGHING *LITERALLY* LAUGHING AT OUR LIST I CAN'T EVEN SHOW MY FACE UNIRONICALLY AROUND THERE ANYMORE

>> No.14406135

>>14406104
You're replying to a false flag poster. The west is turning fascist, not leftist.

>> No.14406136

>>14406123
>I’m not exactly being a leftist I was just using right winger hierarchy logic to explain.
You disappoint me, but you still mistook my claim as being a moral one rather than a factual one.

>> No.14406141

>>14406135
okay pol whatever you say

>> No.14406146

>>14406141
No remember pol are the underdogs

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>>14403436
The church didn’t even press charges.

>> No.14406166

>>14406146
I don't think anybody roots for the incels

>> No.14406174

>>14406136
White nationalists use moral claims not factual ones.
I was in a thread on his earlier. A guy said he would still be a radical white supremacist if whites were the poorest people on earth. He called himself a rational egoist. Saying that it was in his self interest.
I’d say it’s not really, you gain more from taking advantage of the free market.
Slave owners in America made more money importing blacks and making them work in their fields instead of keeping America white while exterminating the natives.

>> No.14406184

>>14406166
More than trannies and junkies

>> No.14406187

>>14406163
If they had pressed charges would he have gotten 30 years?
Dammit I hate churches like this

>> No.14406191

>>14404966
This is fully the fault of endowing people with lordly amounts of authority over others and years of watching by and even encouraging the application of excessive sentencing of many troubled souls for things like courtroom outbursts and from policies of zero tolerance and three strikes.

>> No.14406194

>>14406187
They should have pressed charges. He got off easy.
>>14406174
No I gain more from dismantling the concept of "free market" and killing the slave owner.

>> No.14406212

>>14406187
I don't think it would have made a difference. The guy seems a little unhinged desu. This is a slam dunk 1A appeal but he doesn't seem to care.

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14406219

>>14406184
>junkie

you mean like incessant polposters? lmao

>> No.14406225

>>14406194
Well if you were bourgeois you’d gain more by using the free market to use cheap labour rather than distributing your wealth like a commie or hiring fellow whites like a nazi.
That’s why libertarianism appeals to human greed

>> No.14406234

>>14406166
Yeah, these incels are a problem. Why don't you support racial eugenics to prevent their propogation?

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>>14406225
>Well if you were bourgeois
History proves you wrong. Upper middle class yuppies will get crushed by the real aristocracy.
>human greed
No such thing.

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>>14406234
it's a self-correcting problem

>> No.14406288

>>14406135
I can't see it. The right has no real cultural capital to speak of and any economic power it has is in dying industries. The left holds cultural capital with an iron grip, they have managed to control academic instructions which function as the means of achieving social mobility, and it controls discourse and socialization. The right had nothing that compares. It's one of the major reasons why the left commits very little lethal violence; they don't have to in order to achieve their goals and exert themselves.

Unless the right can manage to systematically criminalize leftism in all it's forms within the next decade, it doesn't stand a chance.

>> No.14406295

>>14406174
I'm not a white nationalist. If I had my way, if criminalize racial hysteria.

>> No.14406296

>>14406247
>greed isnt real
What

>> No.14406302

How do the nazis think they can win?
Their only hope is war because peace is clearly not working out for them.
But it can only be a civil war against immigrants. It won’t solve the issue of non-white countries improving their militaries and economies. Now non-whites have nuclear weapons right now even Pakistan and India have over 400 together which can spark a worldwide nuclear war and bring an end to all civilisations especially if countries like China can stockpile a few thousand nukes and put them on intercontinental ballistic missiles.
How do the nazis intend to win this? It doesn’t seem feasible to me.

>> No.14406306

>>14406288
As ted said the left is way more aggressive, there is some law that states every organization that isn't explicitly right wing becomes leftist

>> No.14406307

>>14406288
You're so fucking stupid. The fact that people spit on the poor and worship cryptofascists like Johnson and Trump says it all.
>The right had nothing that compares
Really? Finance. Media. Industry. Politics. Military and police. Healthcare.

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>>14406212
>"Grrr I just want to be martyred by the Sodomite empire so badly, *sob* for my beloved Lord"

>> No.14406323

>>14406307
>cryptofascists like Johnson and Trump
Fuck off to twitter retard
>Media
Majority of them are overwhelmingly leftist

>> No.14406328

>>14406307
All of that is majority leftist except for the military and police. Most right wingers are boomers. As soon as they die off, we’ll shift to the left even more

>> No.14406344

>>14406307
>Finance. Media. Industry. Politics. Military and police. Healthcare
All of them are dependent on an educated labor for force which since the cultural studies era has become a massive communist sleeper cell. The fact that anarchists are allowed to and encouraged to organize for the purpose of destroying the state and society is a clear indication that all of society's institutions have been infiltrated. That they are allowed to commit acts of violence that supplant the state shows that they have accrued vast amounts of power. The power of the right is superficial and declining. The power of the left is the opposite.

>> No.14406361

>>14406344
Except the left doesn’t commit tons of murdere but the right does.

>> No.14406362

>>14406254
No, I said racial eugenics, not racial dysgenics. Niglets are a major part of the problem of stopping incels.

>> No.14406367

>>14404536
It's the other felonies what will have done it.

>> No.14406382

>>14406323
>Fuck off to twitter retard
Not an argument.
>Media
>leftist
This is the same media that smeared Corbyn non-stop? The same media that smears even pathetic social democrat reformist cuckolds like Bernie Sanders as Stalinists? The same media that is controlled top down by Jewish aristocrats? What was that meme statistic again about how 6 companies control all of American media? The trend will continue as the rate of profit continues to fall, eventually culminating in a media monopoly controlled by a single corporation. Sure sounds leftist to me.
>>14406328
>Finance.
Goldman Sachs executives are communists. Mhmm. Is that why Trump appointed one as FED Chairman?
>Media.
See above
>Industry.
I think you have to be trolling me. Modern capitalist industry is obsessed with efficiency at the cost of respect for working conditions. The attitude of "don't like it, fuck off and we'll bring in an immigrant who will put up with it" is not leftist. Case in point: Amazon drivers wearing diapers on their 14 hour shifts.
>Politics.
Even mild social democrat reformers like AOC are marginalized in the extreme. Kavanaugh being rammed through after raping that woman is a disgrace and is a testament to the power of the right wing.
>Healthcare.
Watch as Johnson privatizes the NHS. I hate Anglos and they deserve what's coming to them, but this will be such a humiliation.

>> No.14406387

>>14406361
>left doesn’t commit tons of murdere but the right does.
Imagine being this brainwashed

>> No.14406388

I don’t think prison was enough. It won’t reform him but it might kill the parts of him that act out. And make him more docile. Maybe the same would work for /pol/ if we put them all in jail for a decade they might get less violent

>> No.14406394

>>14406387
Show me a leftist doing something like Christchurch

>> No.14406410

>>14406382
Communism is very far away but liberalism is winning.
For the purposes of neo nazis, the left is winning. Its winning less now with drumpf and boris but yes it’s winning steadily

>> No.14406415

>>14406307
>media
I’d love to spend a day inside your fantasy world, just to see what it’s like.

>> No.14406446

>>14406415
Why don't you spend a day in the real world?

>> No.14406469

>>14406361
I addressed that in my earlier Post, bud:
>It's one of the major reasons why the left commits very little lethal violence; they don't have to in order to achieve their goals and exert themselves.
The violence the left commits is far more subversive precisely because it isn't lethal.

>> No.14406477

>>14406469
How is it more subversive?

>> No.14406494

>>14406469
>The violence the left commits is far more subversive precisely because it isn't lethal.
The neoconservative wealth transfer programs that have resulted in the decline of US life expectancy is far more lethal, subversive, and insidious than any strawman you could conjure. The left has never been in power in America.

>> No.14406508

>>14406446
Please take your meds Commie trennt

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14406530

>tfw sincerely can't tell if the posts itt are falseflagging meant to encourage reactionary right wing sentiment or just some deranged tranny who actually is that delusional
Poe's law in action I guess

>> No.14406532

>>14406494
after the fall of the USSR the life expectancy fell 10-20 years when muh capitalism was introduced.

>> No.14406543

>>14406530
It’s both

>> No.14406552

>>14406477
Because it supplants the state as the entity that has the monopoly on legitimate violence.
>>14406494
None of that has undermined the US as an entity and is therefore not subversive in any capacity. Leftist violence seeks to undo the existence of that entity. The power of the left has over culture and social existence is far.more.invasive and wide reaching that any of those factors indicate.

>> No.14406572

>>14406552
Still trump was elected and is set to get another term. Perhaps the public is immune to all the culture that you say is now leftist. It’s having no effect

>> No.14406581

>>14406572
Trump's election has only proven that inadequacy of state power in the face vast cultural influence. The left is the state and had achieved a level of social omnipotence that dwarfs the power of a God hitherto conceived.

>> No.14406588

>>14406581
>The left is the state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_away_of_the_state

>> No.14406601

>>14406581
That might be the case now but not in the future,
They’ll just keep voting in right wingers. After trumps second term he’ll be replaced with an even more far right winger. And that guy might be replaced with a neo nazi.
These guys are going to put on policy after policy to undo what the left did till America is a slave state like in 1800

>> No.14406603

>>14406588
I meant the state as the entity which has a monopoly on legitimate violence. The left has achieved this and more.

>> No.14406613

>>14406603
The population isn’t leftist but the cultures and institutions are aside from the cops and military.
It’s just. The stream of right wing government power will eventually replace them all with right wingers.
You’re just downplaying the movement that’s been set in motion. The right is set to grow

>> No.14406617

>>14406601
I don't think so. The left will soon either overrun state systems of authority or they will destroy them and replace them with direct violence.

>> No.14406621

>>14406603
The state protects the property rights of capitalists. Show me an example of the state advancing leftist interests and executing GS execs.

>> No.14406637

>>14406613
The cops aren't a real authority. There's a reason attacks on police authority are increasing while the use of leftist violence as social regulation has increased. Their goal is to supplant the state, and they have so far been successful.

The right also has no organizational infrastructure to speak of while the left had an highly efficient and well established one which makes the right's attempt to combat the left futile.

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>>14406601
Dk you really think an actual National Socialist will get into power in the United States of all places and in the twenty-first century aswell? How do you come to this conclusion when whites are becoming a minority in their homelands and are already less than half of the population in the Unites States? Can you elaborate further? Do your really think slavery will return or was that simple hyperbole?

>> No.14406645

>>14406617
You’re expecting a communist revolution?
Don’t make me laugh. Nothing is going to happen like that.

>> No.14406653

>>14406637
>. There's a reason attacks on police authority are increasing while the use of leftist violence as social regulation has increased. Their goal is to supplant the state, and they have so far been successful.
Fake but it should be true. Show me pictures of cops getting shot. It doesn’t happen but in America, those cops deserve it

>> No.14406661

>>14406621
Allowing them to organizevfor the destruction of the state at all is an implicit form of support.

Subsidizing institutions that enable far left discourse (pretty much any university with a cultural studies program) is giving active support to leftist causes.

>> No.14406666

>>14406641
Whites aren’t becoming a minority fast enough.
There’s plenty of time for neo nazis to eventually be voted in. A lot of liberal whites will become conservatives thus making the right wing bigger. After trump there’s probably going to be a neo nazi voted in or so

>> No.14406670

>>14406653
I've stated several times that the left deliberately avoids lethal violence. Their actions supplant the institution of the police without a single murder.

>> No.14406684

>>14406670
Might take decades which they don’t have

>> No.14406687

>>14406641
Historically, fascism has been the band-aid when capitalists are in crisis. When peasants managed to form a self-sustainable collective society in Spain, the barons ran to Franco and begged him to restore order. In Chile, when peasants occupied unused land for cultivation, the state sent 250 soldiers to massacre hundreds of families on the land. Capitalists wield the power of the state to decimate any threat to their power.

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>>14406666
Right but do you think this hypothetical National Socialist will be able to effectively increase the white population and/or decrease the coloured population in the United States during his term/s? Do you think he will just dispose of democracy and declare a dictatorship somehow? Can you forsee any eugenic policies or anti-miscegenation laws being implimented? Do you think Jim Crow and de jure segregation will make a comeback by then? How will the international community react, war? What will become of the Jews in the United States in this scenario, do you predict genocide? Also, what about the slave state idea you previously mentioned? Please answer each of my questions here because I am genuinely interested in your take on things and how you've came to such seemingly outlandish conclusions?

>> No.14406711

>>14406684
They've already done it in every major city and university town.

>> No.14406715

>>14405399
Are you saying Mexico is a bad place to live? How racist of you, fucking bigot

>> No.14406719

>>14406711
>tfw every major city in usa is communist and university is free
How can I move there?

>> No.14406721

>>14406031
oh well, at least the thread in itself is pretty funny

>> No.14406728

>>14406719
Every city has the far left enforcing all cultural expectations and regulating all social behavior. And you know that's what I meant.

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14406763

>>14405807
>sentenced to maximum term for burning a faggot flag
>B-but I had good intentions while sentencing him!
Oh well that changes everything and makes it all Ok. Let's just have mandatory anal sex class in elementary school. Let's have dispossession of everything white and christian in this country. Let's put the gun to society's head and pull the trigger.
>We believe in rehabilitation not punishment
Oh golly gee I sure am glad that you throw these empty phrases around as an excuse to impose your totalitarian poz. You still put a man in prison for sixteen years for burning a faggot flag. Fuck off.

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14406825

>>14406174
>you gain by taking advantage of the free market
Newsflash, retard. The "free market" is ran entirely by an oligarchy of rootless international financiers. Everything comes back to finance and banking. It is why immigrants are imported to technologically developed countries: cheap labor and advanced, highly efficient capital. It why the family is being destroyed, why homosexuality and trannies are being pushed: to create an emotional dependence on product consumption instead of on people. Everything, and I mean everything, is under the boot of global banking. There's no such thing as "the free market." How can there be a free market when people like Dick Masterson are literally REMOVED from the financial system for being MISOGYNIST. Fuck the free market and fuck you.

>> No.14407020

>>14404899
>>14404637
>>14404612
Based
>>14404850
Cringe

>> No.14407032

>>14403436
Are you implying that him burning that flag had no connection to him getting such a long sentence?

>> No.14407220

>>14406825
Care to substantiate these claims or are you just going to apply a non existent motive based off your own doomsday conspiracies

>> No.14407271

>>14407220
>ever-lowering corporate tax rate
>We need workers! White people wont work these jobs, etc.
>banking system removing political dissidents
>entire currency is debt-based fiat, subject to the oversight of the Fed and the IMF
>lgbt flag on every fucking product during pride month, despite LGBT shit making the average person uncomfortable
>lower trust in the media than ever, the opinion of the majority of people does not line up with what the legacy news stations would have you believe
I could go on and on. Or you could just stop questioning things and buy the next Marvel Funko Pop, right? It's easier that way. I would tell you to look this shit o for yourself but I know you'll accuse me of not being able to present my argument. I know why you're like this. The truth is uncomfortable. It is. But to join in the dismissal of genuine political dissent, not because you deep down disagree with it (maybe you do), but primarily because it makes you uncomfortable, is retarded and lazy.

>> No.14407329

>>14407271
The main point I disagree on you with is with the lgbt, stuff. The fight came first. They've been fighting for equal rights for a long time, and only recently have the corporations capitalized on them when they found out it's profitable. Show me a corporation on the forefront of LGBT rights, and I'll agree with you

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>>14407329
Name one that isnt

>> No.14407353

>>14407342
I meant was, when it wasn't profitable

>> No.14407363

>>14403436
I bet you're the kind of person who gets mad when a hobo gets life for selling weed in a three strikes state

>> No.14407392

>>14407329
Rights or no rights, LGBT has been absorbed by Neo-Liberalism, and thus capitalism. Whatever the movement can do, products will do faster and more efficiently. The system itself has much more power than dudes with caterpillar mustaches in leather. In effect, the system has taken over, making the butt-pirates in the actual movement powerless. That doesnt mean the agenda is not advancing, that just means its no longer by the hand of the gays themselves, it's by the system. I don't know if I'm making sense here.

>> No.14407413

>>14407392
Okay, so this is as it sounds in the initial post, it sounds like a capitalism problem. It sounds like we need to remove those powerful few who have taken over movements for profits. This is just my interpretation, please tell me where I'm wrong

>> No.14407432

>>14407413
You're not wrong. That's what I've been trying to say. The post I initially responded to made it sound like "the free market" was the solution to most problems.

>> No.14407452

>>14403446
That book by that frenchman, it is about obsequiousness. I forgot the name it is late here but you should figure it out.

>> No.14407497

>>14405221
words mean anything now

>> No.14407550

>>14407497
That is due to the fact that the English language is a living language

>> No.14407561

>>14403436
>church property.

>> No.14408105

>>14406367
this is essentially double jeopardy, being punished twice or three times for a previous crime that was attoned for, clearly against the constitution, but hey, so is all this

gotta kill jews

>> No.14408119

>>14405034
Your level of dishonesty and cowardliness was not supposed to be achievable and yet you did it. Amazing

>> No.14408249

>>14405269
GOT 'IM

>> No.14408292

>>14405788
>this man i disagree with was a (derogatory adjective), you're going to have to try again.

>> No.14408682

>>14408292
>>this man i disagree with was a (((kike))), you're going to have to try again.


Um, im thinkin that aint it, chief

>> No.14408695

>>14408682
why do you talk like a faggot

>> No.14408723

>>14408695
irony

>> No.14408824

>>14403436
Thank you Anon.

>> No.14408834

>>14408824
It's not accurate though. He would have gotten 3 years for this crime even with his priors if it were not a 'hate crime', ie. modern blasphemy.

>> No.14408836

>>14405174
Not sure why anyone has a problem with a "habitual offender" arsonist committing a hate crime and being imprisoned for it. He'll be out in a few months on good behavior anyway.

>> No.14408844

>>14406763
Why do I get the sense that if he had burned a cross you wouldn't have a problem with the sentencing. Just because you're a neonazi doesn't mean trannies and other vulnerable minorities (or NIGGERS as I like to call em) shouldn't be protected by our laws.

>> No.14408856

>>14408292
I never said I disagree. He never had children and died of cancer in his 40s. His bloodline rightfully stopped right there.

>> No.14408860

>>14403411
Steve Pinker, Steve jobs, that guy who owned whole foods etc. But you won´t get it without ideological bias of course.

>> No.14408867

>>14405971
He moped around his mothers house for years of his adult life, never had children, and died of cancer in his 40s. These are not the traits of a strong man.

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14409285

kikes, niggers, spics
gypsies, mussies, chinks
immigrants from shitty countries
ropes on trees, try to oppose me

>> No.14409310

>>14409285
that's edgy bro

>> No.14409626

>>14405202
>literally
ok retard