/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14380518]

>The Right can't thin-

[Anonymous No.14380543]

>>14380518
worst post I have ever seen on 4chan. kys op

[Anonymous No.14380544]

Amazing

[Anonymous No.14380549]

>>14380518
meme, meme, meme, meme
meme, meme, hack, meme
hack, meme, meme, meme
meme, meme, meme, Pretty Alright

[Anonymous No.14380565]

>>14380549
How is a Heidegger a meme you idiot

[Anonymous No.14380573]

>>14380565
like all continental philosophers, he's a meme.

[Anonymous No.14380586]

>>14380565
t. never read Heidegger

[Anonymous No.14380609]

>>14380518
Who is bottom right?

[Anonymous No.14380615]

>>14380609
carl schmitt

[Anonymous No.14380623]

>>14380518
Good bait but still a shit post. There again, it's better than if it derailed a thread

[Anonymous No.14380633]

>>14380518
Get those niggers and faggots off the list and maybe it could be based.

[Anonymous No.14380643]

"I AGREE!"
- Dave Rubin

[Anonymous No.14380651]

>>14380633
>Get all of them off the list and maybe it could be good

[Anonymous No.14380652]

>>14380609
Carl Schmitt

[Anonymous No.14380656]

>>14380549
hitler, gentile, heidegger, friedman, and sowell are not memes. hitler was not philosocophially rigorous or educated at all but mein kampf is historically important spengler is not a hack. otherwise this post is correct

[Anonymous No.14380664]

>>14380518
Is the whole Donald Trump thing still considered edgy and unique around here? Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.14380665]

[Anonymous No.14380671]

>>14380656
*philosophically

[Anonymous No.14380688]

>>14380518
hitler, gentile, heidegger, spengler, friedman, sowell, and schmitt are the only people on there that are worth engaging with. everyone else is a pseud meme hack

[Anonymous No.14380708]

>>14380688
Dude they are all garbo lmao. It is amazing that you even list Hitler. Peterson is even more insightful than him.

[Anonymous No.14380714]

>>14380708
Clearly you haven't read Hitler's Table Talk.

[Anonymous No.14380726]

>>14380708
hitler is garbage but he is historically important, that's the only reason i listed him. mein kampf is worth reading for that reason
i dislike most of the others but i admit they are important thinkers. heidegger, friedman ,and schmitt in particular you should be giving more respect than you are (though i personally think friedman is super overrated)

[Anonymous No.14380732]

>>14380726
btw i'm a communist and not really sympathetic to anyone in the chart. but i'm just aware that quality right-wing philosophers exist

[Anonymous No.14380740]

>>14380518
>all those neoliberal capitalist Jews and shabbos goys mixed in with actual intelligent conservatives
Absolutely terrible bait
Just to clarify, Guenon belongs in the trash as well

[Anonymous No.14380756]

>>14380518
What kind of a actual retard do you have to be to put Hitler, Milton Friedman, Spengler, and fucking Trump (among others) on the same list

[Anonymous No.14380781]

>The right can’t thi-

[Anonymous No.14380788]

>The right are du-

[Anonymous No.14380797]

>Rightism is a disea-

[Anonymous No.14380800]

>>14380740
All of them are the same. Some of them just indulge way more in flimsy ideology.

[Anonymous No.14380803]

>>14380781
>>14380788
>>14380797
>Burke and Chesterton are the peak of rightoid intellectual tradition
Wew

Also don't see why you would even include a two-bit sociologist like de Tocqueville.

[Anonymous No.14380806]

>The right can't thi-

[Anonymous No.14380813]

>Egalitarianism is a good thi-

[Anonymous No.14380822]

>>14380518
>Heidegger > Spengler > [BIG POWER GAP] > Guenon > Evola > Dugin > everyone else
Objective rankings. No one after Spengler deserves the title of 'philosopher'.

[Anonymous No.14380831]

>Radicalism is always a good ide-

[Anonymous No.14380841]

>The Enlightenment was a good thi-

[Anonymous No.14380845]

>>14380822
Carl Schmitt has had more academic influence than Spengler. He is unquestionably more important than Dugin, of all people.

[Anonymous No.14380847]

Heidegger = Schmitt >>> Spengler = Gentile >>> Guénon = Evola > Dugin >>>>> everyone else

[Anonymous No.14380852]

>>14380822
>>14380847
shit>>>>

[Anonymous No.14380856]

>>14380781
>muh conservatism
It's lliterally just liberalism with a 50 year delay. What's so impressive about that?

[Anonymous No.14380892]

Why must we cater to amygdala hypertrophy instead of treating it as a neural disorder?

[Anonymous No.14380911]

>>14380845
I'll grant you that, my bad.
>>14380847
Missed Gentile as well.
>>14380852
Kind of inclined to agree save for at least Heidegger and Spengler, there might be value to them even non-rightists can recognize.

[Anonymous No.14381003]

>The Right can't rea-

[Anonymous No.14381040]

>>14380822
see here: >>14380688

[Anonymous No.14381050]

>>14381003
mein kampf is the only thing on there worth reading, and even then only for historical purposes

[Anonymous No.14381262]

>>14380518
All thoughts are lies from Satan.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.14381278]

I've heard this guy is pretty "base," as us /lit/itors like to say.

[Anonymous No.14381299]

>>14380518
Irrelevant, No Idea, not a philosopher king, retard
IDK who that is, obviously brilliant, why?, Also, Why?
No idea, the people that talk about him are cancerous, fine, lol
May be worse than Shapiro and Peterson, no, retarded, he's good.

[Anonymous No.14381373]

>>14381278
Spooky post, my dude

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14381388]

Pinhead, who? Shithead, carny
Who? Sad, shill, shill
Spengler, shithead, porridgehead, who?
Who?? Carny, who? Who is this guy again?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14381392]

>>14381278
>Hello my fellow kids

[Anonymous No.14381406]

What are some good starting points for right wing political thought that isn't a meme about immigrants or identity politics? Social democrat btw.

[Anonymous No.14381413]

>>14381406
Meier on Schmitt/Strauss

Gadamer's debate with Habermas

https://c2cjournal.ca/2009/06/where-marx-and-conservatives-meet-the-writings-of-paul-piccone/

[Anonymous No.14381429]

>>14380518
>rubben
>trump
>jesse
>hitler
Yeah, you're right. They can't

[Anonymous No.14381437]

op list is pretty shit

[Anonymous No.14381443]

>>14381406
Define right wing.
From a Nationalist and traditionalist perspective, most books arent about immigrants at all. Anti immigration ideas are a modern reaction to current policy. Most authors write about better ways to construct a Nation and national spirit, sometimes about policies that deal with that. For example, Hitlers main deal was stopping the economy (and Jews) from utterly consuming the working class.

You could read De Maistre, Heidegger, Nietszche, Spengler to get a proper sense of what nationalists believe.

[Anonymous No.14381446]

>>14381437
this guy sucks too

[Anonymous No.14381451]

>>14380518
Only 7 of them are based thinkers

[Anonymous No.14381487]

>>14380518
Gentile, Heidegger and Schmitt are the only three worth reading.

[Anonymous No.14381501]

>>14381443
>nietszche
>nationalist

clearly has never read NEETboy if you think he is a nationalist or remotely right wing.

[Anonymous No.14381713]

>>14381501
he is right-wing

[Anonymous No.14381718]

>>14381487
nope
>>14381451
this is correct

[Anonymous No.14381732]

>>14381487
>>14381451
>>14381718
They are all garbage.

[Anonymous No.14381738]

>>14381732
maybe if you say that enough it'll become true

[Anonymous No.14381749]

when people say Heidegger is right wing, what do they have in mind? Nothing in B&T has much applicability to politics, afaik

[Anonymous No.14381780]

>>14381738
Only have to say it once. They are kiddie "thinkers" that indulge too much in ideology. That is all.

[Anonymous No.14381797]

>>14381780
>indulge too much in ideology
I guarantee you can't explain what you mean by this

[Anonymous No.14381805]

>>14381780
yeah that's why carl schmitt's critique of liberalism is popular among leftists, because he's just an empty ideologist. read theory you fucking dumbass

[Anonymous No.14381833]

>>14381780
Zizekian brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14381848]

>>14381713
Sources or proof?

[Anonymous No.14381901]

>>14381848
he advocates aristocratic heirarchy anon

[Anonymous No.14381922]

>>14380813
Isaiah Berlin wasn't a right winger. Far from it.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14381958]

>>14381901
He sees the übermensch as a cross between an aristocrat and an anarchist.
He is to left of nationalism

[Anonymous No.14381968]

>>14381958
at bottom he is anti-egalitarian

[Anonymous No.14383616]

>not my presi-

[Anonymous No.14383619]

>the right can't thi-

[Anonymous No.14383646]

>>14380518
Apart from how bad this
>imagine forgetting the whole of history who would also be classified as right wing

[Anonymous No.14383657]

>>14381003
>>14380518
Ee-yup. They clearly can't. Thanks for proving it.

[Anonymous No.14383658]

>>14381901
he advocates overcoming both master and slave morality = overman

[Anonymous No.14383712]

>>14380665
This is only a trap for the left. (True) Conservatives don't need the concept of parrhesia all that much because they content in the truth of old already. While the Fascist must use it in the specific context of today in order to "fix" or save whatever they must from the pervading danger of the left. So parrhesia, as it were, has somewhat lifted the Conservative into a necessary awareness of the times and the danger for which he wants to conserve. Parrhesia is the necessity which has done this. The left, now, after its initial purpose has been served, only follows the general reactionary spirit of the movement, an irrational meaning seeker. First attacking ghosts in the mass of conservatives, only to cause the resurgence in the Fascists out of them. A polarising effect.

[Anonymous No.14383715]

>>14380847
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14383724]

>>14381388
And you call yourself educated.

[Anonymous No.14383766]

>>14383712
the fuck you on about
it was funny cos they're doubling down on dogmatism and the truth is neofascist now

[Anonymous No.14383773]

>>14383766
I don't know what you mean.

[Anonymous No.14383783]

>>14383773
Zizek is calling for a new dogmatic orthodoxy which this article by one of his acolytes endorses. Meanwhile he himself has been labeled a cryptofascist. It's all very comical. They've twisted their shit into knots and have the gall to call others retarded.

[Anonymous No.14383820]

>>14381901
>>14381968
His entire thesis is that of BECOMING, right wingers hold an essentialist view which is about as far away from Nietzsche as one can get.

[Anonymous No.14383845]

>>14380518
>Hitler
>right
>Dugin
>right
Wha-?

[Anonymous No.14383885]

>>14381501
Is he left wing?

[Anonymous No.14383915]

>>14380714
Fake

[Anonymous No.14383957]

>>14381501
Having the most basic view of nietzsche propounded by every single "School of Life" tier youtube philosopher says nothing about who's read him.

[Anonymous No.14383973]

>>14380518
>>14381003
You need to add JK Rowling now

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14383999]

>>14383724
When have I ever?

>>14381968
He struck me as more skeptical of it. I believe he will ultimately be proven wrong
Unless we kill ourselves

[Anonymous No.14384067]

>>14383712
>>14383766
>>14381713
>>14383885


the best philosophers aren't easily categorisable into 'left' and 'right' wing... the 'American Right' have only recently decided Foucault is 'left wing' – but 30-40 years ago, people thought he was on right. Same with Nietzsch, the guy hated politics for good reason, it twists philosophers in to a 2D pile of shit that you say 'YAY' or 'NAY' like a f00king f00tball match

people like Guenon and Dugin and Hitler aren't philosophers, they are pea brain retards incapable of thinking 2 step ahead

[Anonymous No.14384093]

>>14380518
literally all retards lmaooo

[Anonymous No.14384103]

>>14380544
amazing

[Anonymous No.14384140]

>>14380518
>focus jumps to Milton Friedman and I begin to write a long winded refutation of monetarism based on years of economic study and professional experience in financial services
>See Trump, Shapiro, token right wing house negros
>mfw

[Anonymous No.14384159]

>>14380656
>>14380688
Name one thing Sowell has contributed to economics lmao
He is a literal who to anyone not trying to prove republicans can be black

[Anonymous No.14384267]

/lit/ and 4chan's larger attempts to make conservatism appealing and cool to the kids is the most embarrassing thing about this board. it was never and never will be cool to wish for the return of the monarchy or fascism, you're just a dork who thinks their shitty tacky uniforms look cool and wishes the government would keep dissenting opinions away from you because you can't defend yourself

[Anonymous No.14384300]

>>14380518
>grouping Heidegger up with Trump and Pregar

[Anonymous No.14384345]

I will always love /lit/ for making me feel better about being "leftist" or "left-leaning"

[Anonymous No.14384357]

>>14384267
The right can't dream, all it can do is create nightmares. Rightism is only successful by exploiting human cowardice, and so to propagate itself it must inspire war, conflict, and suffering. Rightism neuters masculinity, turning cowardice into a virtue, desiring to summon a Big Daddy to make the imaginary fear-objects disappear. Ultimately rightism comes from a fear of self-awareness that is projected outwards to avoid exposing one's own profound flaws.

4chan is not a neutral space, 4chan admins tolerate /pol/tards breaking rules and spamming the rest of the site with their garbage. For example it's technically against the rules to post racism and troll outside of /b/.

[Anonymous No.14384399]

>>14384267
>>14384357
upvoted

[Anonymous No.14384402]

>>14380543
You didn't get it.

[Anonymous No.14384430]

>>14384159
"knowledge and decisions"

[Anonymous No.14384437]

>>14384103
Amazin'

[Anonymous No.14384456]

Jesse Lee Peterson>>>everyone else

[Anonymous No.14384458]

>>14384399
t. rebbit magatard

[Anonymous No.14384474]

>>14384159
Migration and Culture, Late talking children, Knowledge and Decisions, Basic Economics. He's done a lot of work historically and has inspired many into the field. Herbert Gintis said his Basic Econ book is completely accurate. Gobble more goo faggot

[Anonymous No.14384478]

>>14384267
this

[Anonymous No.14384485]

>>14380518
>no reagan
>no thatcher
>no sadat

[Anonymous No.14384487]

>>14380543
I've seen some shit, but you might be right.

[Anonymous No.14384514]

>>14380573
This post is made by retarded analityc gang

[Anonymous No.14384531]

>>14384267
>wishes the government would keep dissenting opinions away from you because you can't defend yourself
...you're accusing the right of doing this? lol

[Anonymous No.14384539]

>>14384267
Right is pretty split on government dependency, kind of how you know the left is. Stop beating up strawmen goddamn

[Anonymous No.14384542]

>>14384267
>and wishes the government would keep dissenting opinions away from you because you can't defend yourself
bro...there's no way this wudn't intentional

[Anonymous No.14384869]

>>14384531
>>14384542
you guys literally had a whole era of American history exclusively dedicated to shamelessly silencing and blacklisting political opponents. There is absolutely no way you can compare Milo getting booed off college campuses to McCarthy, J Edgar Hoover, &c.

[Anonymous No.14384894]

>>14380518
BAAAAYDA

[Anonymous No.14384898]

>>14380573
bruh

[Anonymous No.14384903]

>>14380518
what the fuck even is this jesus christ hitler would be rolling in his grave

[Anonymous No.14384906]

>>14384898
All continental philosophy can be destroyed with a simple "Care to extrapolate?"
No, I will not extrapolate on this statement.

[Anonymous No.14384933]

>>14380518
ftfy

[Anonymous No.14384942]

>>14384869
and now? I sure don't see the Left calling for open debate, they in fact really love the word 'deplatforming', and there is quite a lot of talk about emulating European hate speech laws

[Anonymous No.14384954]

>>14380518
Are you calling them fat? BASED

[Anonymous No.14384959]

>>14384906
All thought can be destroyed with this method, retard

[Anonymous No.14384967]

[Anonymous No.14384978]

[Anonymous No.14385085]

>the right can't thi-

[Anonymous No.14385101]

>>14380518
Who is the man in the bottom right corner?

[Anonymous No.14385114]

>>14384942
There's no "open debate" with someone who wants to destroy you. "Here, let me convince you why I should murder/enslave/oppress you." LMAO.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, idiot. If you make yourself the mortal enemy of minorties, gay people, women and non-Christians, EXPECT TO BE TREATED THE SAME IN TURN. If you don't respect the rights of others, why should others respect yours?

[Anonymous No.14385116]

>>14380609
Schmitt, and his concept of the political is fantastic, highly recommend.

[Anonymous No.14385124]

>>14380822
You haven't read Schmitt have you?

[Anonymous No.14385126]

but Dugin is genuinely worth reading
>>14380847
Has Heidegger even been translated?
Reading Carl Schmitt is not important and entirely irrelevant to right wing politics apart from his influence on Dugin and Alain de Benoist.
>Spengler
>Evola
absolute memes

[Anonymous No.14385129]

>>14380847
Spengler is pretty fucking brilliant. His ideas might be out there but the first chapter of his Untergang, especially, is just sheer brilliance. Also incredibl erudite

[Anonymous No.14385135]

>>14381406
Plato

[Anonymous No.14385136]

>>14380518
Top row is fine, but you should swap Spengler's position with Dugin.
I have no idea about the first man on the second row. However, Shapiro doesn't belong there, and Peterson should be in the 'psychedelic wing' with Terence McKenna.
Sowell is fine, Spengler is necessary, swap the kike with Hoppe and the radio head with Ron Paul.
No, Not Right-Wing, Kill this one, who?

>>14385126
>dissing Spengler
Denial.

[Anonymous No.14385138]

>>14385126
calling spengler and evola memes and saying dugin is worth reading lul

[Anonymous No.14385141]

>>14381713
>people trying to pin Nietzsche down

lmao

>>14385126
>Spengler
>Meme

You haven't read Spengler have you?

[Anonymous No.14385144]

>>14385138
evola is a meme

[Anonymous No.14385145]

>>14385129
Imagine believing this.

[Anonymous No.14385153]

>>14385126
>Carl Schmitt is not important and entirely irrelevant to right wing politics
>the right must never face up to its failures
The absolute state of the NuRight. Would love to see the reasoning though.

[Anonymous No.14385154]

>>14385145
>civilizations don't rise and fall in patterned fashion
The hubris of an idiot who lives in the time period where architecture has been forgotten (everything prior to things being built now is in essence the new aqueducts).

[Anonymous No.14385163]

>>14385145
You're not saying anything. Be honest, have you read Spengler or have you just read some excerpts which out of context seem obscurantist?

[Anonymous No.14385165]

>>14384357
I'd give you gold if I could! Please post this on ANOTHER site wink wink and link it lolz

[Anonymous No.14385199]

>Anyone thinking that anyone there is worth reading
This board really is filled with underage retards.

[Anonymous No.14385214]

>>14385154
>hubris against a man
Nice decline faggot

[Anonymous No.14385237]

>>14385214
everyone in >>14384933 is worth reading

[Anonymous No.14385323]

>>14385237
Yikes

[Anonymous No.14385330]

>>14385323
pseud. read more post less

[Anonymous No.14385403]

>>14385330
Try posting something of substance rather than your reddit meme charts.

[Anonymous No.14385433]

>>14385237
How are economists, especially ancaps, in any way worth reading or even right-wing?

[Anonymous No.14385545]

>>14385433
Hans-Herman Hoppe shows quite clearly why democracies are unsuitable for economic management. Thoguh I don't quite think he is an anarchist.

[Anonymous No.14385552]

>>14385545
>Hans-Herman Hoppe
So you only read memes?

[Anonymous No.14385710]

>>14381749
They mean he was an intellectual force that helped validate the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. The fact that his excellent philosophical writings and his political alignment have little crossover is true but not really relevant, he's still a great thinker and also on the political right.

[Anonymous No.14385734]

>>14385433
OP seemed to consider milton friedman right-wing, so used him as the benchmark as what OP considers 'right-wing'. i agree that he and some others on there aren't right-wing though
they are worth reading because they are important people who have contributed to the history of ideas

[Anonymous No.14385775]

>>14380609
Schmitty Fiddy

[Anonymous No.14385785]

>>14381437
The libertarians are 100% garbage.

[Anonymous No.14385791]

[Anonymous No.14385804]

>>14385433
Ancap is pretty much as right wing as it gets.

[Anonymous No.14385834]

>>14380518
One can define conservatism as the political form of melancholy. It remained decisive for the conservative syndrome which took shape in Europe after 1789 that it had resulted from looking back at the irretrievable goods, life forms and arts of pre-bourgeois times. […] It acquired elegiac hues by emphasizing the habit of expecting the darker constants of human nature. To be conservative is to continue believing that good and noble things are tied to places and unique phenomena—for vulgar things, on the other hand, the majority principle and mechanical repetition are sufficient. - Foams pp 627-628

[Anonymous No.14386474]

>>14385804
kek

[Anonymous No.14387013]

>>14385141
>>people trying to pin Nietzsche down

>lmao

Yeah he got real pinned down in the end didnt he (I mean in his bed bc he ignored his demons and died from it lol)

[Anonymous No.14387089]

>Spengler
>Guenon
>Evola
>Duguin
>Shapiro
>Peterson
>Trump
>Prager
>Sowell
>Friedman
>gay libertarian whose name I've forgotten
>literally who black guy
>hitler

Dropped

[Anonymous No.14387154]

>>14380518
Almost everyone in this photo is retarded, talentless or both, maybe with the exception of Evola as a prose stylist.

[Anonymous No.14387287]

>>14380518
Cool bait, soulless leftoid tranny.

[Anonymous No.14387364]

>>14384357
>The right can't dream
this is really the best you guys can come up with?
>Rightism neuters masculinity,
lol

[Anonymous No.14387408]

>>14387364
Dreams and adventure are the key component to civilized thought. A civilization that no longer knows how to dream is in decay. Fascism and all right wing forms of organization are dead wonderless hellscapes.

[Anonymous No.14387444]

>>14387408
all right wing thought is just temper tatrums against the progress of civilization and the externalization of internal struggles.

"EEVERYTHIGN USSEED TO BEEE GREAT BUT SJWS AREE MAKING WAR ON WHITE MALESSSS WE ARE OPRESSSEDDD STOP WOMEN RIGHTS HAVE SEX WITH ME"

I'd rather be in a future with pinked haired trannies with original thoughts than a horde of sport sunglasses, goatee (that "hides" a double chin) zombie who wastes their lives drinking beer and watching sports.

[Anonymous No.14387452]

>>14381922
He was vehemently anti-Marxist and spent a lot of time writing about the strengths of the counter-enlightenment, including on the work of Vico, Hamman, Herder, De Maistre and so forth. His work on value pluralism rejected the kind of absolutism that many left-wing theories rest on. He recognised that human concerns are created and by human beings and are therefore nuanced and multifaceted.

[Anonymous No.14388618]

>>14380518
Top kek
I truly never realized just how pseud reeks out of every hole in almost all of them. No wonder the only good right wing thinkers like gentile come from a place of mental anguish and chaos that just so happened to land on the right wing. All the good ones come from a place of mental anguish and then that anguish just so happen to place on the right with it having little or nothing to do with the merits of the right. In fact you can do this to any right wing thinker, and if not then they are probably pseud hacks

[Anonymous No.14388637]

>>14384539
No they are not.
Marxist leninists see the state as a tool, a tool to be abolished after its use. The only ones I can think of that you might be referencing are either liberals or social democrats, but those aren't leftist so I'm not sure what you are speaking on.
Right wing pseud cringe yet again

[Anonymous No.14388655]

>>14380518
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14388681]

>>14387408
It's perfectly understandable why some people would relish becoming your personal nightmare.

[Anonymous No.14388717]

>>14380831
he cute...who dat?

[Anonymous No.14388736]

>>14380788
He was hated by both the right and the left.

[Anonymous No.14388762]

Who are both second row right, third far right, 4th row first and third?

[Anonymous No.14389029]

>>14387408
>>14387444
You're confusing right wing and conservatism. They're actually not the same. It's a common mistake, though.