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[Anonymous No.14350830]

Who is the best catholic writer and why is it Ratzinger?

[Anonymous No.14350961]

Saint Augustine is kinda impressed.

[Anonymous No.14350972]

Reminder Ratzinger is a de Chardinist.

[Anonymous No.14350981]

>>14350972
no he isnt

[Anonymous No.14350985]

>>14350961
augustine was a calvinist

[Anonymous No.14350993]

>>14350981
from Introduction to Christianity

[Anonymous No.14351006]

>>14350985
No he wasn't. His views on predestination and the like only make sense when you realize he was arguing against the Pelagian view that God's grace is useless when trying to get to heaven and instead it's one's own effort that gets one into Communion with God. While he did believe in predestination of the righteous before all ages (which is perfectly licit in Catholic theology and even mentioned a few times in the Bible IIRC), he probably didn't believe in God predamning people to Hell, which is a huge tenant of Calvinism. He probably argue that God PERMITS us to damn ourselves to Hell since he will not take away our free will, but God cannot will evil for us since God is the ultimate Good.

[Anonymous No.14351015]

>>14351006
That and he clearly believes in the power of the Sacraments and the Saints along with the authority of the nishops and other clergy, things which Calvinists deny whole-heartedly.

[Anonymous No.14351128]

Was Kempis Catholic? I still love this book regardless.

[Anonymous No.14351139]

Is there any good books on Mary? Maybe I sound dumb, but I really like to imagine that she is my heavenly mother and loves me, so it'd be nice to read about her.

[Anonymous No.14351193]

>>14351128
Yeah he was Catholic. Also it's nice that you enjoy The Imitation of Christ. I remember reading it in high school and liking it. I might read again it for Lent.

>>14351139
The Mystical City of God by Mary of Jesus of Ágreda is an amazing book about Mary (which according to Mary of Jesus, was dictated to her by the Blessed Mother) regarding Mary, Mother of Jesus and God's plan for creation and the salvation of souls. There's an abridged version, but if you can shell out the shekels for the full 4 volume set, I would do it.

[Anonymous No.14351196]

>>14351193
Forgot the link for Thomas Kempis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_%C3%A0_Kempis

[Anonymous No.14351205]

does grace conflict with free will?
couldn't everyone just get supreme grace?

[Anonymous No.14351222]

>>14350830
Henri de Lubac, Gaston Fessard, even Walter Ong are so far beyond Ratzinger... it's like comparing JMW Turner and Thomas Kincaid.

[Anonymous No.14351271]

>>14351006
wouldn't Augustine disagree with Calvinists on the source of evil?

seems to me Augustine = Calvinist is a bad cope shilled on the part of dishonest Orthodox posters and """"theologians"""" who want to claim Orthodoxy is 100% safe from all attacks and criticisms leveled against Catholicism

[Anonymous No.14351341]

Edward Feser is pretty great, Five Proofs and his book on Aquinas are both great reads.

[Anonymous No.14351371]

>>14350830
nice. Romano Guardini is also good

[Anonymous No.14351421]

>>14351205
How would they conflict? It's not that you don't have the grace of being alive, but in order to get the graces, you have to be in communion with God and that is ultimately your decision to maintain that state or not. God always wants to be in communion with us but our hearts are fickle.

>>14351271
>wouldn't Augustine disagree with Calvinists on the source of evil?
Yeah that's true too. Calvinists believe in total depravity, whereby even the free will of man was erased and we are completely subject to sin at all times. Even outwardly good deed are inherently sinful due to our nature. Augustine would say that we have a heavy tendency to sin due to original sin, but since we are made in the image of God, we have free will and thus we have the ability to get back into communion with God. I also agree with the last sentence you stated as well too. Honestly, I think it's not even Orthodox people doing it since they do have respect for him as well and hold a semi-Augustian stance on the matter. I think it might be "theologians" that don't understand the issue or are intentionally muddying the waters.

[Anonymous No.14351462]

OP you misspelled G. K. Chesterton. Jokes aside The Man Who Was Thursday, The Everlasting Man and Orthodoxy are fantastic.

[Anonymous No.14351504]

>>14351462
I've honestly tried reading Chesterson and had to stop because his writing style is weird as fuck. I'm not even going to go as far as saying he's a bad writer or something like that because he's very good. It's just I'm not used to that sort of writing style.

[Anonymous No.14353192]

>>14351139
Also True Devotion to Mary, by Louis de Montfort is amazing if you want to know about Marian devotions

[Anonymous No.14353224]

>>14351462
Chesterton's a great writer, thanks for reminding me about him. I should read Thursday again.

[Anonymous No.14353401]

>>14353192
This is a great read so far, thanks!

[Anonymous No.14353464]

Etienne Gilson
Jean Gerson
Henri Suso
Thomas Kempis
Duns Scotus
Anselm
Augustine
Thomas Aquinas
Richard of Middleton
Ockham
John Chrysostom
Bonaventure
Peter John Olivi
John of the Cross
Theresa of Avila
Bellarmine

[Anonymous No.14353822]

Peter Kreeft has some great books on Theology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJszejDxxVU

http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm

http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing_more.htm

[Anonymous No.14354749]

>>14350830
Umberto Eco

[Anonymous No.14354850]

Got any books for an ebin bapdisdd to be educated on Catholicism?

[Anonymous No.14355376]

>>14351139
Hail, Holy Queen by Scott Hahn

[Anonymous No.14356074]

>>14354749
Umberto Eco is not a Catholic.
He's not even a believer.

[Anonymous No.14356236]

>>14350830
>actually liking the pope who ruined mass proceedings forever
YIKES be with your spirit, your spirit, your most grievous spirit consubstantially with the Father

[Anonymous No.14356259]

>>14353822
Kreeft is #1 in contemporary apologetics in my opinion. Better than Feser et al.

[Anonymous No.14356266]

EM Jones


>>14356236
>ruined mass proceedings
??

[Anonymous No.14356295]

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>>14354446

pic kinda related

[Anonymous No.14356394]

>>14356295
create a results link retard

[Anonymous No.14356403]

>>14356394
>create a results link retard
?
It is being held right now. Results are changing all the time. I don't really understand what you mean.

Also, I am not the current manager of the poll

[Anonymous No.14356414]

>>14356403
>so, I am not the current manager of the poll
So why are you promulgating this?

[Anonymous No.14356420]

>>14356414
why not?

[Anonymous No.14356426]

>>14356266
fuck off zoomer, the apostle and nicene creed were kino

[Anonymous No.14356428]

>>14356420
Cause you are not able to respond to feedback like mine.

[Anonymous No.14356478]

>>14356428
i really don't get your point, man

[Anonymous No.14356505]

>>14356478
Man, tell the main guy to release the link to the data, so we dont have to wait till 2020 when he finishes making a pretty picture .png with the results.

[Anonymous No.14356518]

>>14356505
the poll will be finished in about 12 hours. Real OP dixit.

[Anonymous No.14356524]

>>14356518
bonum. Vale.

[Anonymous No.14356718]

Has anyone read Homo Abyssus? Does anyone know where to score an ebook of it?

[Anonymous No.14356725]

[Anonymous No.14356772]

>>14350830
Sergio Quinzio
Guido Ceronetti
Mario Brelich
Guido De Giorgio

[Anonymous No.14356822]

>>14356718
Bumping this request

[Anonymous No.14357287]

>>14356259
IMO, Feser assumes you're well versed in philosophy and the like, which isn't bad at all and great for people that are in seminary or are just interested in the philosophy. Kreeft is really good at keeping it interesting but readable to the average person

[Anonymous No.14357328]

>>14350993
Catholic Priests are the only real philosophers still around. Everyone else is a joke. You cannot compare this with the writings of any single acedemic because they're just doing it for a paycheck which they use to buy stuff they care more about like food, sex, entertainment. But Ratzinger, or the clergy, have none of these worries. They are interested in philosophy purely for the sake of philosophy. That is a profound and distinct difference.

[Anonymous No.14357343]

>>14350972
reminder that de Chardin was a pseud and Pope Francis' encyclical Laudato Si is far more relevant and useful than any vague intellectual navel-gazing about a noosphere.

[Anonymous No.14357360]

>>14357328
Priests right now are incredibly corrupt (separate than raping of children). The only people in the catholic church you could trust at the moment are monks of any kind. I somewhat agree with you on the side of acedemics though.

[Anonymous No.14357367]

>>14357328
>no one can be interested in philosophy for its own sake unless they are a Catholic priest
good take retard

[Anonymous No.14357384]

>>14357343
Francis references de Chardin positively in it.

[Anonymous No.14357396]

>>14357384
>credit where its due is bad
he was still a pseud

[Anonymous No.14357685]

Is the Summa worthwhile for casual cradle Catholics with only a little background in theology and philosophy?
What is a good alternative or starting point?

[Anonymous No.14357912]

>>14351139
>>14353192
THIS, the best book I have ever read, I would also suggest reading St. Louis Marie's other works like the Secret of the Rosary and the Secret of Mary

[Anonymous No.14357923]

>>14357360
Traditiona Catholic priests too, like SSPX and FSSP priests

[Anonymous No.14358370]

>>14353192
>>14357912
>THIS, the best book I have ever read
I know how you feel. Also desu True Devotion to Mary made me burst into tears uncontrollably. I was sobbing. That book is beautiful.

[Anonymous No.14358399]

>>14357685
i think there is a book called the summa of the summa though I dont know if its any easier to read

[Anonymous No.14358499]

>>14357685
I wouldn't go directly into the Summa, whether or not you have a background in philosophy. There's a few authors that try and break it down because unlike Saint Augustine's works (which are dense but easily digestible), Thomas Aquinas' works are dense but not able to be digested easily. I would start with a more compact version of his philosophy (I remember Ed Feser has one and there's also the Pocket Summa and the Summa in 90 minutes) before I go into the Summa itself in order to get a good idea of what he's saying. It's also advisable to read Aristotle's main works on metaphysics, natural philosophy (barring the biology ones) and ethics in order to get a good grasp of Aquinas since Aquinas reconciled Catholicism with Aristotle, although that's if you have enough time since you can take a whole fucking semester-long course on that alone; I wouldn't expect anyone to do that unless they are really into Thomism and they have the time to do so.

[Anonymous No.14358546]

>>14350985
No, he wasn't.

>If I were to propose to you the question how God the Father draws men to the Son, when He has left them to themselves in freedom of action, you would perhaps find it difficult of solution. For how does He draw them to Him if He leaves them to themselves, so that each should choose what he pleases? And yet both these facts are true; but this is a truth which few have intellect enough to penetrate. As therefore it is possible that, after leaving men to themselves in free will, the Father should yet draw them to the Son, so is it also possible that those warnings which are given by the correction of the laws do not take away free will. For whenever a man suffers anything that is harsh and unpleasing, he is warned to consider why it is that he is suffering, so that, if he shall discover that he is suffering in the cause of justice, he may choose the good that consists in the very act of suffering as he does in the cause of justice; but if he sees that it is unrighteousness for which he suffers, he may be induced, from the consideration that he is suffering and being tormented most fruitlessly, to change his purpose for the better, and may at the same time escape both the fruitless annoyance and the unrighteousness itself, which is likely to prove yet more hurtful and pernicious in the mischief it produces.

[Anonymous No.14358559]

>>14351462
>The Everlasting Man
Patrician as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14358702]

>>14354850
Read Bishop Barron’s book Catholicism. You will love it I promise.

[Anonymous No.14359919]

>>14353224
>Chesterton's a great writer
He really is.

[Anonymous No.14361130]

>>14357685
to get started on Thomism you can get this podcast called "Pints with Aquinas", or sth like that. It's free, and pretty interesting.