/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14315574]

Holy shit. Has anyone who recommends him actually read him? He's fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.14315595]

>>14315574
How?

[Anonymous No.14315597]

>>14315574
Evola? He is just too high IQ for you apparently, he isn't for plebs

[Anonymous No.14315602]

>>14315574
>btfos capitalism AND marxism
Yeah, I’m thinking Evola is based.

[Anonymous No.14315613]

>>14315602
He's right. Humans need to retrain their pineal gland so we can achieve interdimensional status, up our chromosome count and consequently grow to massive heights and rebuild Atlantis.
Also fuck niggers and they're powerful semen.

[Anonymous No.14315617]

Everytime somebody rags on Evola here they never say what it is about his ideas that they dislike. You ask "Why don't you like him?", or "How is he (insert insult)" and they never even give you a critique.

[Anonymous No.14315632]

>>14315602
What he says there is not wrong, but it misses the point. In order to have any hope of achieving what is "essential", one must not be starving to death, or enslaved, or physically incapacitated. So, materialism is helpful in defining the "nadir" of human existence. He is correct, though, that it is almost useless in defining the "zenith" of human existence. Which is why capitalism is a garbage outlook.

[Anonymous No.14315635]

>>14315617
Some did is just shitposting trying to get this thread >>14313879 slid. Pretty amusing desu

[Anonymous No.14315641]

>>14315574
His work was made for Brahmins and Kshatriyas. Vaishyas or Shudras are unable to understand higher planes of reality.

[Anonymous No.14315668]

>>14315641
vaishyas are considered a twice-born caste

[Anonymous No.14315875]

>>14315617
His attempts to force all of human history into conforming with the Hindi idea of a 'dark age' is just your run of the mill historicism, which was btfo by Popper and it isnt even an accurate categorization because he relies on the assumption that prehistorical society conveniently was organized around the rule of a vague priestly class who were enlightened and thinks the fact that things were better in the period of European empires proves that the hindu texts are literally an accurate history of all of mankind, and not religious allegory.

I really wish rightwing /lit/ wasnt too lazy to critique Evolas writing (or even read it, because none of you faggots can ever say why what he says is accurate, or what he even says at all) instead of fanatacizing about this guy just because he was sympathetic to fascism and wrote edgy books

[Anonymous No.14315892]

>>14315597
>orientalist
>high IQ

[Anonymous No.14315899]

>>14315641
>His work was made for [insert random oriental gibberish here].
You nailed it.

[Anonymous No.14315903]

>>14315875
Evola was a stinky orientalist.

[Anonymous No.14315988]

>>14315617
i've read most of Evola and like his ideas. he's just boring

[Anonymous No.14316032]

>>14315988
>plain and dumb orientalism
>ideas
lol

[Anonymous No.14316051]

>>14315602
>materialism is false
then what happens to the importance of race? holy shit, how much of a brainlet was he? I know I read some of his work on magic and he read like a drooling fucking idiot but I assumed his philosophy was better

[Anonymous No.14316060]

>>14316051
Smash your own kind with a stick and reach for muh oriental stuff with a bow.
In a word: Orientalism.

[Anonymous No.14316107]

Nobody who "recommends" Evola actually understands him. Prove me wrong, hylics.

[Anonymous No.14316109]

>>14315903
>clearly hasn’t read Evola
Poor show

[Anonymous No.14316138]

>>14316109
>muh Asians r bug men
Woah this guy truly was a modern sage...

[Anonymous No.14316167]

>>14315988
>I have read
>Evola
>and he is
>boring
Why do you lie? Are you afraid of the excerpts from Pagan Imperialism? Maybe I should post big thread tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.14316170]

>>14316138
>Evola wuz oriental
>oh nvm but he still stoopid
Poetry

[Anonymous No.14316221]

>>14315602
Good to see well known people saying what I'm seeing. Capitalism and socialism is the same shit

[Anonymous No.14316534]

evola wasn't an orientalist you god damn brainlets, his argument in favor of any oriental faith he endeavors to describe is that they are essentially hyperborean aka indo-european aka western and thus more compatible with the west than christianity which is a self-flagellating foreign desert cult and more 'oriental' than vedism.

[Anonymous No.14316551]

>>14316167
>domination
>servitude
>hierarchy
I don't see how these are good

[Anonymous No.14316794]

>>14316167
Can you show me the book cover please?

[Anonymous No.14316866]

>>14315903
in his defense a lot of people were back then, from occultists to politicians to philosophers
Blavatsky is another one but people don't take her seriously

[Anonymous No.14316876]

>an autistic, unironically fascist author who was overlooked and underappreciated until a bunch of autistic, unironically fascist virgins rediscovered his work online

I'm thinking cringe but also redpilled, maybe.

[Anonymous No.14317691]

>>14316794
It’s Pagan Imperialism

[Anonymous No.14317699]

>>14316876
Ironically a good take. Although not autistic, just bored and high test. Autism is a more modern phenomena due to the constant sensory bombardment

[Anonymous No.14317703]

>>14316551
For you

[Anonymous No.14317710]

Evola always had the unpalatable /pol/ association but now he's also common on here, even more than Guenon, which makes him a prime target for dissociation propaganda as banal as "I liked him before he was cool but now he sold out" tier caricatures.

[Anonymous No.14317714]

>>14317699
>not autistic, just bored and high test

You know this isn't true.

[Anonymous No.14317748]

>>14315574
checked him on Wikipedia. I am not wasting my time on some half-wizard, half-Nazi with obvious issues. At least not before I finish my 50+ to-read-list, and don't find anything more meaningful.

[Anonymous No.14317765]

>>14315574
You have to entertain a certain amount of mysticism. God works in strange ways that aren't always logical

[Anonymous No.14317776]

>>14316109
Evola didn't understand that Chinese Communism is a worlds difference from Western Communism

[Anonymous No.14317788]

>>14317748
How is that any different than Hegel or Lacan

[Anonymous No.14317792]

>>14315574
>fucking retarded
>not brilliant
kys fagget

[Anonymous No.14317805]

>>14316534
Agreed

[Anonymous No.14317809]

>>14317714
The man was known for his mountain climbing skills if I’m not mistaken. He wasn’t some lame academic, he embraced the olympian ideal, unlike the laughable jews in academia today.
>pic related
is Evola

[Anonymous No.14317819]

>>14317748
>reading the wikipedia articles doctored by jews now that Evola has become more mainstream in dissident academia
How are you this naive!?

[Anonymous No.14317825]

I just read Mysteries of the grail and i've heard people call it boring, unimportant and "skippable unless you're really into the grail for some reason" which makes be very skeptical regarding the sincerity of Evolas fanbase that actually reads his work.

[Anonymous No.14317833]

>>14317776
Doesn’t change the Chinese from being soulless bugmen, which Evola nailed in his description

[Anonymous No.14317838]

>>14317809
>Goes for a walk to get off to some kind of Promethean sense of fate and gets his spine severed

a real inspiration

[Anonymous No.14317842]

>>14316221

[Anonymous No.14317847]

>>14317833
t. only knows china from a bunch of webms and baseless speculation posted on 4chan

[Anonymous No.14317849]

>>14317838
Brainlet alert. Sad!

[Anonymous No.14317856]

>>14317847
>t. chinese propagandist
fuck of chink

[Anonymous No.14317865]

You have to have some sort of brain damage to really believe in mysticism. Why waste your time with autistic arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Any asshole can make up their own brand of nonsense and call it metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.14317870]

>>14317856
>proving my point

[Anonymous No.14317876]

>>14317865
Evola was guided by God himself you dumb athiest

[Anonymous No.14317893]

>>14317870
How aren’t Chinks hyper-conformist bugmen?

[Anonymous No.14317925]

>>14317865
Continental philosophy
>What is a tree? Is there an abstract "treeness" like the old Aristotelian etiology or Platonic metaphysics? Or is it just some kind of base set of elements, or "matter," obeying laws? If that's the case, what are the laws? Are they abstracts? What is the non-material ground of matter? Or is matter somehow self-grounding? Even more importantly, how is it even possible for us to be certain in our judgments about any of these things? Can we ever be certain? Can we even know things about the world? Who's to say there isn't a real nature out there, whether it's abstract "treeness" or some kind of base essence of matter and cosmological laws, except it's the nature of consciousness not to be able to know those essences and laws? Are we locked into our experience of the world, which pre-theoretically "makes sense" to us, only to be irritated any time we try to look beyond that pre-theoretical experience and really KNOW things? But how does that make any sense? Surely not everything can be subjective and "social," can it? The basic of the subjective must be the objective; or maybe a unity of the two that is higher than both? Maybe one way to know the "outside" is by better understanding the "inside," since both spring from the same source; yet a lot of philosophers are pessimistic about this, and think we are trapped in language. It's like we're right back where the Greeks started.. How are we to live in a world where we can't even get a firm footing on what it means to "be?"

Analytic philosophy
>◇ ∃p ≡ q{d~p} ∀m ⊢q∥~p ⊃ d p ⊧ ~p ∄ p
>∴ Matter is material.
>Ergo, mid-20th century market liberalism is objectively correct, as is every conception, ca. 1965 in Oxbridge, UK, of the ideas and culture of all past and future civilizations. Read John Rawls and John Locke every day. Ethics was solved by the Bloomsbury circle.

[Anonymous No.14317931]

>>14317847
You don't need to know China to know the Chinese.

[Anonymous No.14317945]

>>14317809
Mate it's not the Jews fault you don't have sex

[Anonymous No.14318000]

>>14316051
He wasn't really a materialist. He did believe in a kind of higher mind that traditional people can tap into. One's race does not wholly determine it, but it can provide a start in some ways. He did admit that a few foreigners could have a true Aryan mind or spirit later in his life.

[Anonymous No.14318021]

>>14317945
I’m actually a degenerate manwhore who sleeps with random women regularly. Dilate. Have sex. Happy Hanukkah. Shaloms, Rabbi.

[Anonymous No.14318027]

>>14316051
Materialism is manifestation of the degradation of the spirit. Here’s some enlightenment for your poor soul

[Anonymous No.14318043]

>>14316876
he wasn't fascist. he was admired by Mussolini and hung out with some of the futurists but rejected fascism. he wasn't overlooked, he was a well known if not a bit controversal cultural figure until his death. Stop learning about people from memes.

[Anonymous No.14318191]

>>14318027
Merchants are a false caste. They are Plebeian at their core and only amount to a caricature of the aristocratic soul they attempted to portray themselves as. The "new money" was so soured by their inability to fit in that they just tore the whole thing down.

Merchants are abomination, they are rootless workers lacking a real identity. It is cruel that they are allowed to exist, any future system must have a real wealth limiting component based on caste, rather than relying on a defacto one.

[Anonymous No.14318215]

Evola is alright but one should really read René guenon because he's basically taking every one of his best ideas from him. He was also frequently accused of plagiarism, not from Guenon but various authors as well.

The sad thing, however, is that when you read him you realize the fascists who claim to have read him haven't at all, or they greatly misunderstood him. The weak porn-addicted /pol/tards who never leave their basement are the furthest thing from a differenciated man, and rallying under a new populist movement does few things to change it, quite the contrary.

[Anonymous No.14318242]

>>14318191
>Merchants are a false caste.
Read Plato's republic or the Indian caste system. Merchants or Vaishya are legit but they are not the soulless corporate banksters of today. They're labourers, crafters, artisans, etc, but they are the ones who, indeed, amass the most wealth.

[Anonymous No.14318249]

>>14318215
keep seething guenonfag

[Anonymous No.14318262]

>>14318249
It's a shame this guy ruined the discourse on René Guenon forever on /lit/
It is a fact that Evola has a long correspondance with Guenon and obtained almost all of his datas from him. The only thing he did was applying his prose and warrior spirit to them, which is why I like him, but he has his limits.

[Anonymous No.14318275]

>>14318191
This would not be the case had our ancestors not outsourced and allowed the monopolization of our merchant caste to Jews, and allowed the moras of anglos to follow in the Jewish path as well.
>>14318215
Guenon wrote for the betas. Evola wrote for the chads. Also, those who read Evola and give you the impression they are basement dwelling noobs isn’t a wrong impression, but Evola wrote in a way the inspired them to leave that lifestyle behind and become aristocrats of the soul. Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.14318285]

>>14316138
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v47/n7/full/ng.3285.html

Europeans, especially northern Europeans, are genetically more predisposed to individualism than the other races. This is one reason the other complex civilizations seem vaguely antlike to us.

[Anonymous No.14318287]

>>14318262
If you’d actually read Evola, you’d directly read his arguments against authors like Freud and co. He didn’t just peddle this esotericism from some ivory tower. He directly criticized and critiqued a lot of the then contemporary academia, of which Guenon didn’t do simply because Guenon died in 1951 and Evola in the 70’s. People really get caught up in Evola strong persona that they forget he lived into a good chunk of the modern era, considering he was a WWI officer.

[Anonymous No.14318292]

>>14318215
>a differenciated man
Evola was a stinky orientalist.
He was a degenerate, and he tried to hide his pathetic degeneracy with empty words, like "riding the tiger", but people didn't care about what he said to hide himself... Evola was just a stinky orientalist in their eyes.

[Anonymous No.14318297]

>>14318275
You have the public you deserve.
Guenon, though he has been memed to death here, is only read by a few and inspired many great intellectuals, *including Evola* and kickstarted an entire movement.

Evola got rediscovered by /pol/ and Steve Bannon. If he managed to inspire a few (including me) it's great.

This beta/chad dichotomy is cringe. Brahmana/Kshatriya is better, because there's nothing weak about being a true intellectual, unless you're a stereotypical jock from an 80s hollywood movie.

[Anonymous No.14318304]

>>14318275
>Guenon wrote for the betas. Evola wrote for the chads.
Guénon and Evola wrote for the degenerate losers.
Only the weakest loser would let those two stinky carpet dealers come into their house.

[Anonymous No.14318305]

>>14318297
>orientalism
>intellectual
lol

[Anonymous No.14318309]

>>14318287
>He directly criticized and critiqued a lot of the then contemporary academia, of which Guenon didn’t do simply because Guenon died in 1951 and Evola in the 70’s.

Guenon BTFO'd Freud, the whole psychological school and every new subversive movement in "Reign of the quantity and sign of the times"
The difference is that, while Evola whines about the Beatles being popular, Guenon anticipated them because it's better to attack the principles of subversion rather than their manifestation.
Guenon foresaw that money would be reduced to pure quantity, aka the digital numbers in wall street, it's not even material. Did Evola do that?
Stop being a fanboy dude, I said he was a fine author but we must go to a higher level (Coomaraswamy is good too)

[Anonymous No.14318316]

>>14317819
>that significant shift
Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.14318317]

>>14318309
>Coomaraswamy is good too
Coomaraswamy whinings are so pathetic.

[Anonymous No.14318325]

>>14318309
>Guenon foresaw that money would be reduced to pure quantity
>Did Evola do that?
So Evola, being twenty years younger than Guenon, should’ve done what Guenon did before he did it, and this is why Guenon is superior?
>Guenon BTFO'd Freud
And Evola has access to more empirical evidence of psychology through modern science which allowed him to thoroughly btfo the psychoanalytics in ways the Guenon couldn’t. You’re being the real sophist, here. Sad!

[Anonymous No.14318327]

>>14318317
How does he whine? Most of his books are quotes from sacred texts and other authors.

[Anonymous No.14318336]

>>14318327
>How does he whine?
Oh please...

[Anonymous No.14318350]

>>14317748
>checked him on Wikipedia
>I am not wasting my time on some blah blah blah

[Anonymous No.14318356]

>>14318336
Didn't find it whiny, regardless it's not like his observations are wrong (especially about modern christianity)

>>14318325
I just think it's more impressive to predict things before they manifest themselves rather than merely observing what's happening.
Just like Nietzsche's last man.

Have a good day!

[Anonymous No.14318359]

>>14317691
No, but seriously the cover. Didn't know that the book was easily buyable.

[Anonymous No.14318360]

>>14318275
Evola was a childless creepy loser who talked about repelling oriental bullshit no one cares about.

[Anonymous No.14318366]

>>14318356
>I just think it’s more impressive that the man who had been in academia 20 years longer than his student was able to make a prediction his student didn’t
You’re terrible at this. Cya, nerd.

[Anonymous No.14318371]

>>14318356
>Am I my brother's keeper ?
>not whiny
ok retard

[Anonymous No.14318379]

>it's another "i've only read the political works of evola even though he himself regretted writing them" thread
Evola believed what most philosophers believed, in Natural Law. This is much the same to the words Dharma, Tao, and had a variety of ancient Greek/Latin words that died out due to christianity. For example, Plato is a big proponent of such Natural Law. It's just different views of what it is, as all philosophs do
>>14317838
that's not true, he was in a bunker.

[Anonymous No.14318381]

>>14318359
Oh. Here ya go.

[Anonymous No.14318391]

>>14318379
I’m OP and own one of the few copies of Arktos print of “Mask and Face in Contemporary Spirituality”. Even if what you said is true in that he truly regretted writing his political writings, and it wasn’t a forced concession in order to avoid being persecuted by then anti-fascist governments, then I still don’t care. His writings are powerful and clearly a threat to the Jews, leftists, and liberals who browse this board.
>he was in a bunker
source?

[Anonymous No.14318393]

>>14318379
Its on wikipedia. Evola claimed he was in a bunker as damage control

[Anonymous No.14318396]

>>14318391
it was on the podcast of Mask and Face of Contemporary Spirituality release, by the guy who translated that book himself funnily enough

[Anonymous No.14318407]

>>14318396
Never bothered to listen to that episode. Curious where the conflicting accounts arose, but again, mostly don’t care. I’m not impressed by him walking out in a combing raid, anyway. Why do you assume I’m such a sophist?

[Anonymous No.14318493]

>>14316221
Thinking that everythijg you don't like is the same thing is a sign of schizophrenia, anon

[Anonymous No.14318502]

>>14318379
Evola was a pretentious retard.
You've been bamboozled

[Anonymous No.14318524]

>>14317788
>Hegel
I read a brief intro to his work years ago, that's pretty much it.
>Lacan
Idk that person. /lit/ /pol/acks aren't going batshit over him, definetly

>>14317819
did the Jews also made this up?
>Evola is popular in fringe circles, largely because of his extreme metaphysical, magical, and supernatural beliefs (including belief in ghosts, telepathy, and alchemy)
The guy was nuts and believed in all sorts of essoteric crap. End of the story. There are a thousand far-right (or whatever you can wanna call it) authors that didn't believe in ghosts and magic words.

>>14318350
Am I wrong?
>Half-wizard
The guy was intpo alll sorts of magic stuff
>half-Nazi
He worked for the SS, and was arrested fro trying to rebuild the Fascist Party.

[Anonymous No.14318739]

>>14317819
i like how even the pic was changed to the le spooky dark ebil one

[Anonymous No.14318770]

I can't take anyone seriously who takes pajeets seriously. Nice take on climbing hills though.

[Anonymous No.14318787]

>>14315632
I kinda agree, materialism even its most conceptual is to facilitate the idealistic.

[Anonymous No.14318798]

>>14318524
>he guy was nuts and believed in all sorts of essoteric crap. End of the story. There are a thousand far-right (or whatever you can wanna call it) authors that didn't believe in ghosts and magic words.
t. never read Evola

[Anonymous No.14318894]

>>14318798
>t. never read Evola
Oh! You figured?

[Anonymous No.14319060]

>>14316138
Triggered chang

[Anonymous No.14319065]

>>14315574
>

[Anonymous No.14319093]

>>14315632
>In order to have any hope of achieving what is "essential", one must not be starving to death,
Tell that to Buddha.

[Anonymous No.14319100]

>>14318391
>I’m OP and own one of the few copies of Arktos print of “Mask and Face in Contemporary Spirituality
Upload when?

[Anonymous No.14319115]

>>14318524
>The guy was nuts and believed in all sorts of essoteric crap. End of the story.
Jew detected. Your opposition is always sane, and they always believe the truth, and that's the beginning of any story.

[Anonymous No.14319174]

>>14319100
I’ve been asked to do that. Haven’t been able to find a place which allows me to scan books. Tried a few local unis but didn’t get anywhere since I’m not enrolled and some other bullshit excuses they made

[Anonymous No.14319269]

>>14319115
/pol/ack detected. Come on, I have seen /pol/ack do some wonderful shit. Like I don't think all of them are retards, but you pointing me as a Jew is really laughable bc of the meme.
You don't need to be a Jew to think the guy was, again, nuts. I don't wanna prove I am not Jewish, so you will probably think you made a point or sth herre. Congrats, genius.

[Anonymous No.14319344]

The only person I know that is really into Evola runs the Ride the Neon Tiger page on facebook and is obsessed with convincing people that liking trannies isnt gay is actually trad. Only one guy though

[Anonymous No.14319801]

>>14319174
Just buy a cheap printer with a scanner, scan the book, compile it in a pdf, and return the printer.

[Anonymous No.14319901]

>>14319801
Look for a post this sunday at noon pacific time US.

[Anonymous No.14320038]

>>14315617
he was an italian fag who wished to be nordic so bad he invented a set of ethics and called it spiritual nordicism as a way to cope with self hatred

[Anonymous No.14320152]

>>14320038
>he was an italian fag
Well, we already know whatever you said after this is emotionally loaded and probably a lie
>who wished to be nordic so bad he invented a set of ethics and called it spiritual nordicism as a way to cope with self hatred
Lo, my prediction stands as correct.