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Can this be refuted?

>> No.14314864
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>>14314838
Yeah. You gotta was big to get big. The correct order is
>physiological
>esteem
>self actualization
>love/belonging
>safety

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>>14314838
Yes. Here it is your refutation.

>> No.14314877

>>14314838
No but it’s also obvious and doesn’t really say anything

>> No.14314892

> Can this be refuted?

Yes. Religion.

>> No.14314909
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>>14314838
>Love/belonging

>> No.14314910 [DELETED] 

>>14314864
You don’t understand what is meant here by “safty”

>> No.14314915

>>14314838
I dont have any love or belonging but I have esteem and self-actualization proceeding smoothly. Whats up with that?

>> No.14314920
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>>14314864 #
You don’t understand what is meant here by “safety”

>> No.14315236

>>14314838
The base is actually self realisation. Without that theres no point in even maintaining your body.

>> No.14315248

>>14314920
my doctor says masturbation counts as sex

>> No.14315305
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>> No.14315375

>>14314838
Yeah its false. Esteem and self actualization often come as a result of lacking in the lower categories. Asceticism basically destroys this retarded jewish pyramid scheme. This is designed to tell people to work hard and make money so they can pay for food security and sex before they can be happy, which naturally predisposes them to be good little wagecucks for capitalism.

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>>14315248
By any chance, is your doctor of jewish ancestry?

>> No.14315387

>>14314838
The Cooomer trascended it.

>> No.14315393
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I am physically incapable of feeling love. What's the point of even living?

>> No.14315410

>>14315393
Have you ever loved something? What happened?

>> No.14315421

>>14314875
This dude isn't the peak of anything. Just a gay neet that somehow tricked the locals into throwing scraps up to him out of pity. If anyone did something like that today the fire department would rightly escort them off the premises. He was a drain on society, a net negative, a sunk cost and a waste of time

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>>14314838
>sexual and social relationships are the only basic human need not guaranteed by governments or government programs

>> No.14315439

>>14314915
Either you truly don't understand the concept of Maslow's self-actualization, or you are just deluding yourself.

>> No.14315442

>>14314864
i miss u rich panini
>4 scoops per scoop

>> No.14315459

>>14315385
Yes, what made you ask?

>> No.14315524

>>14315439
How am I supposed to have love if I have not become what I am? It seems like you would need to have self-esteem to have to love too? Who would love a man who is hasn't self actualized as a person worthy of love? Who would love a man with no self esteem?

>> No.14315539

>>14314920
I hate you because you're the cool mean and distant old sister I've never had. You describe a time of my life, the time I've spent on this board, having better minds pass me by, being scared bc I couldn't keep up with my other similar internet friends. The wanting to belong to a world I couldn't pace myself with or join in any way that wasn't forced.

>> No.14315549

>>14315426
The Netherlands has subsidized prostitution. Also in most countries the repeated display of antisocial behavior will land you in prison where you'll have close relationships with your peers forever.

>> No.14315625

>>14314838
Sure
It's a psychological theory, it cannot even be proved

>> No.14315642

>>14315410
No.

>> No.14315653

>>14315421
>t.coping materialist

>> No.14315659

But in many cases you need self-esteem and confidence to find love/belonging, which to me points to this chart being kinda shit, or at very least reductive and simplistic. Certainly pseudoscientific.

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>>14314838
>tfw stuck on tier 3 for decades with no escape in sight
In a few short years I'll drop down a few rungs so at least I have that to look forward to.

>> No.14315675

>>14315653
Am I a coping materialist? Maybe. Maybe not. But what I do know is this: I get along with my local fire department and walk all over the place. That's one thing Simeon can't hold over me

>> No.14315688

>>14314909
>>14314909
wahhh wahh fuck you bitch ass pusy bitch

>> No.14315719

>>14315688
What could possibly compel someone to post such a heinous comment?

>> No.14315766

>>14315675
>That's one thing Simeon can't hold over me
Simeon has the help of God, you fucking asshole. you're only a tiny whiny atheist bitch

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>>14315539
I stay out of habit, but I also really do want to help people. It’s low effort help, I know, but I’m so tired and this is so easy. Don’t hate please

>> No.14315813

>>14315796
Not that kind of hate, more that I can't reconcile something.

But ty in general.

>> No.14315907

>>14315766
You sure god isn't on my side and not Simeon's?

>> No.14315985

>>14315549
Sending someone to prison isnt guaranteeing their social needs are being met and getting sent to prison doesnt mean youll have close relations with your peers. Try again, brainlet.

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>>14314838

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>>14314838

The obsession with needs is just as morbid as the obsession with work. You are neither a human needing nor a human working, but a human being.

>> No.14316236

That strict stratification is refuted by default because it never appears in Maslow's own work. Some lazy textbook-writer made it up and now you're parading it around as gospel. Feel silly yet? We are pretty much always addressing more than one need at a time, it's not like leveling up as an RPG character.

>> No.14316407

>>14314838
yes, read cynicism

>> No.14316417

>>14315385
my pediatrician never explicitly told me to masturbate, he just told me to pull my foreskin back and forth. he looked middle-eastern and one time my mother asked him where he was from and he told us he's palestinian and pulled down a map and started to rant about israel for 10 minutes straight lol

>> No.14316430
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HARDSTUCK AT LEVEL 3. FUCK THIS WORLD

>> No.14316434

>>14315375
This.
Anyone who falls for Maslow is cucked by the jews.

>> No.14316529

>>14315387
What has a coomer ever created?

>> No.14316535

>>14316430
look like lgbtq+ found a loophole kek

>> No.14316541

>>14316430
psych can be solved by money and hookers considering sexual intimacy is separately categorized and esteem is entirely symbolic eg. getting a degree. Belonging can be solved by a shift in perspective, truly believe in no sex before marriage or asexuality or something similar and youre through to the 5th tier

>> No.14316592

>>14316535
Not even joking, my husband is pretty much the biggest reason I'm still even alive. My life isn't all that great outside of it but that relationship keeps me going every day, to build a better life to live with him. I can't imagine where I'd be if on top of all the issues I had to deal with chasing women.

>> No.14316610

>>14316222
hm... *taps chin a few times* yes, this appears to be based

>> No.14316618

>>14315421
Lol imagine being this wrong about something

As if the locals didn't love him, as if the locals weren't inspired by his magnanimous sacrifice, as if David Blaine didn't do something similar and got hated on it but bested the world and its wiles

Imagine believing such trivialities as a monk's meagre 500 kcal a day is really a drain on society

>> No.14316631

>>14316529
coom, duh

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>>14316541
You need to feel LOVED by a woman. Hookers can't do shit it equal to masturbation.

>> No.14316835

>>14316631
fuck, you got me there

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>>14314838
yes
it's complete garbage, pretty much everyone who produced anything of value was missing one of the lower tiers.

>> No.14318526

>>14315999
Kinda true

>> No.14318557

>>14314838
yes, Maslow himself said that this isn't accurately describing the needs of the individual and that those differ from person to person. This is literally just what he thought was the most common version of the human needs

>> No.14318629

>>14316529
U