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>be a loser philosopher
>swap buddhanature by low IQ mahayanists for Atman
>call that an Upanishad
>nobody has ever heard of this ''''''''''''''''''Upanishad''''''''''''''''
>it's totally legit bros
>all the morons around believe it
>2000 years later, all the morons still talk about it
ADVAITA VEDANTA IS LITERALLY HINDU MORMONISM. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.14255491

Rehashed low effort bait

Sage goes on all fields

>> No.14255511

i hate guenonfag and advaita but this thread sucks. there's plenty to make fun of advaitafags for without posting cringe.

>> No.14256030

>>14255487
At least mask your hatred(righteous) for Advaita behind some positive claims on Buddhism so that a legitimate thread can be had after your original shitpost.

>> No.14256353

>>14255487
But can Mormon survive duel millenia(2,000 years)?

>> No.14256455

>>14255487
>2000 years later
Advaita didn't exist for 2000 years, it started in the 6-7th century CE, that's how it was able to plagiarize so much from Buddhism. If you're gonna shitpost at least get the facts straight.

>> No.14256506
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14256506

"From whatever new points of view the Buddha's system is tested with reference to its probability, it gives way on all sides, like the walls of a well, dug in sandy soil. It has, in fact, no foundation whatever to rest upon and hence the attempts to use it as a guide in the practical concerns of life are mere folly. Moreover Buddha, by propounding the three mutually contradicting systems, teaching respectively the reality of the external world, the reality of ideas only and general nothingness, has himself made it clear that he was a man given to make incoherent assertions or else that hatred of all beings induced him to propound absurd doctrines by accepting which they would become thoroughly confused…Buddha’s doctrine has to be entirely disregarded by all those who have a regard for their own happiness."

Adi Shankara - Brahma Sutra Bhasya 2.2.32.

>> No.14256520

>>14256506
wtf I love advaita now

>> No.14256586
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>>14256506
>Madhva argued that Shankara championed monism because he was so stupid that he could only count to one

>> No.14256712

>>14255511
This

>> No.14256831

>all these white males with yellow fever mispronouncing philosophical terms

>> No.14256912

>>14256506
based

>> No.14256925

why do so many buddhists on this board lack tolerance for other beliefs? is it because you had a spiritual crisis, but decided to remain as materialists? and any half decent source knows that the Upanishads predate buddhism

>> No.14257057

>>14256586
This is a lot more deserving of the nigger mocking gif than the other post. Fucking savage.

>> No.14257094

>>14256925
>any half decent source knows that the Upanishads predate buddhism
only 2~4 out of the 108 upanishads (and nearly half of the principle upanishads) predate Buddhism.

>why do so many buddhists on this board lack tolerance for other beliefs?
I doubt there are any practicing buddhists in this forum, its likely spiritual LARPism, just like the neo-vedantists who shitpost other beliefs when confronted with facts.

>> No.14257191

>>14255487
SEETHING WHITEHEADIAN

Sage

>> No.14257547
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>>14256586
>it's real

KEK

>> No.14257670

Is Buddhism just weaponized autism?

>> No.14257692

>>14256506
jesus christ Shankara was such a retard

>> No.14257819

>>14256586

Equating Monism with Numeric singularity indicates terminal idiocy.

>> No.14258639

>>14256506
>man given to make incoherent assertions or else that hatred of all beings induced him to propound absurd doctrines by accepting which they would become thoroughly confused
lel have you guys ever heard Advaita explaining Maya?

>> No.14258779

>>14256506
Shankara is generally quite based, but this reads like he fell hard for the Hinayana meme.

>> No.14258785

>>14256925
The non-meme answer is that they're not Buddhists but western LARPers

>> No.14258794

So is Shankara good or not? I don't want to be the equivalent of a white Zen Buddhist.

>> No.14258840

>>14258794
Read for yourself. In any case it's worth looking into his writings.

>> No.14259329

>>14258794
>I don't want to be the equivalent of a white Zen Buddhist.
You won't because Advaita isn't open to you, whiteboy. You might end up agreeing with him but you won't be an Advaitin unless you actually go to India and become an ascetic with a teacher(a form of asceticism that is more severe and Will to Power denying than Buddhist asceticism btw).

>> No.14259369

>>14256506
>hatred of all beings
C'mon Shankara, I consider you pretty based but this is clearly just a jab of ego. You're calling a man whose entire doctrine was taught for and exclusively around the elimination of suffering by sentient beings as a "hater of all beings"? When Buddha many times advocates for the radiation of love in all directions, having compassion for all creatures, he did so from this hatred of his? Clearly Shankara's ego bested him here.

>> No.14259388

>>14259369
>whose entire doctrine was taught for and exclusively around the elimination of suffering by sentient beings

....by eliminating said beings.

>> No.14259394

>>14258794
"Śaṅkarācārya is undoubtedly one of the greatest philosophers of the world and a realised saint. He is gifted with extra-ordinary intelligence, a deeply penetrating mind, critical insight, logical reasoning, philosophical analysis, religious purity, sublimity of renunciation and profound spirituality. His literary excellence makes him shine as a writer of exemplary Sanskrit prose and soul-inspiring philosophico-religious verses."

- Chandradhar Sharma, 'The Advaita Tradition in Indian Philosophy'

>> No.14259403

>>14259329
I won't bother reading him then because I'm not going anywhere near that shithole.

>> No.14259410

>>14259388
By eliminating the part of said beings which is undergoing suffering, and leaving the part which abides in everlasting bliss.

>> No.14259585

>>14259403
You can still read him from the point of view of a scholar. To understand his arguments. And perhaps even to delude yourself into thinking you've experienced bliss and understod the true nature of reality which will make the Existential dread of the modern world disappear.

>> No.14259611

>>14259410

Which part would that be?

>> No.14259729

>>14259611
the Atma

>> No.14259779

What are the core buddhist scriptures? I've read 10 upanisads, the brahma sutra and the bhagavad gita but no buddhism

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>>14258794
>So is Shankara good or not?

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>>14256586

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>>14256586
>>Madhva argued that Shankara championed monism because he was so stupid that he could only count to one

>> No.14259870

>>14259853
>>14259862

See:

>>14257819

>> No.14259881

>>14259729

Is this standup comedy or what?

>> No.14259884

>>14256586
Fucking kek

>> No.14259892

>>14259870
>telling people to "see" your shitty post nobody cares about
>not making better posts if you want attention

Guenonfag you boomer learn to use 4chan

>> No.14259897

>>14259611
That which is equivalent to Nibbana, in my view, and could be named such.

>> No.14259902

>>14259892

You can't even claim it was a joke because you yourself make no distinction between them either. Appalling.

>> No.14259914

>>14259902
What are you even talking about you schizo?

>> No.14260069

>>14256586
Lmao

>> No.14260195

>>14259585
but if i am deluding myself then isn't the way of removal of existential dread just a cope?

>> No.14260210

>>14255487

>Make up or adept concept
>Give it a name

Somehow this is a crime?

>> No.14260215

>>14259779
the nikayas i suppose
followed by prajnaparamita sutra etc for mahayana

>> No.14260295

this image sums up shankara vs buddhism debate
https://i.imgur.com/xbXgNvU.jpg

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>>14260295
>this image
>links a fucking imgur

bro you can post pictures on 4chan

>> No.14260305

>>14260302
i'm not allowed

>> No.14260965

>>14260305
bash the fash