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>What do you mean 'atman is real'?! NOOOO nonono it can't be real! Anatman! there's no Atman! Grrrrrr

>> No.14251918

>the paranoid sign regime is god
the absolute state of your desiring machines

>> No.14251920

>>14251918
your deleuzional

>> No.14251921

>>14251908
Atman is the only thing that is real, everything else is an Illusion

>> No.14252041

>>14251908
Anatman is simply a radicallu apophatised atman, whence the void 'becomes' atma.

>> No.14252058

>>14251908
How does Advaita solve the Hard Problem of Atman?

>> No.14252065

>>14252058
it doesnt

>> No.14252081

>>14252058
Nonduality

>> No.14252088

>>14252041
you mean a center of uncoded and deterritorializing intensity whose investment and extension in the social machine presupposes its own coding by the despot's organs? the assemblage that capital is eating alive?

>> No.14252094
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14252094

Do you experience full Being or emptiness when you're in a state of deep meditation?

>> No.14252101

>>14252094
neither.

>> No.14252156

>>14252101
learn to meditate m80

>> No.14252177

This relatively recent 4chan obsession with Upanishad sand Advaita supports the idea that human beings, the smartest animal, still desperately need identity and categorization to help them understand reality so that they can have something to cling onto. How many times have you reviewed Hinduism and Buddhism only to realize that they only 65% coincide with your own personal beliefs from your own thoughts and experiences. We need to stop trying to categorize shit (I'm guilty btw with the relatively recent 4chan infatuation with Advaita, though I've yet to peruse the related literature).

There's no method to the madness you fucks.

>> No.14252797

>>14252177
Based.

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14252821

Daily reminder that Shankara was heavily influenced by Nagarjuna, and his radical monism was considered essentially Buddhistic and heretical by Hindus at the time and since.

>> No.14253146

>>14252177
>here's my take on something I haven't even read and why you shouldn't take it too seriously
wow thanks anon

>> No.14253182

>>14251908
Why do people tolerate this basedboy meme shit?

>> No.14253305

>>14251908
fuckin based

>> No.14253651

>>14252058
what is the Hard problem of Atman?

>> No.14253659

>>14253651
if atman admits of subject/object appearances in the first place and at all, how is that not a dualism?

>> No.14253762

>>14252094
Honestly, both. When I enter a deep state of meditation I experience a form of emptiness, that is then filled with the world around me. The ego dissipates and I become my breathing, the thoughts going through my mind, my hands, my feet, the ground I sit on, the air around me. This creates an immense sense of peace and I guess what could be called "full being".

>> No.14254028

>>14253659
Those only appear due to maya and are not in themselves ultimately real. Within the transcendent witnessing Awareness appears the subject-object duality and when this vanishes the pure subject or the Awareness in which they appeared remains. When Advaita says reality is non-dual, they're not saying that our normal everyday thoughts and normal cognition is non-dual, quite the opposite. They are saying that the apparent duality of subject-object gives way to the non-dual subject in spiritual realization, but until then we are subject to the influence of maya and consequentially view things through a dualistic lenses.

>> No.14254046

>>14254028
But if the two modalities under which Atman can appear are
>appearance (everyday)
>reality

Doesn't that mean Atman has two modalities? Why have appearance at all?

>> No.14254058

>>14251908
just sit

>> No.14254092

>>14253182
Now almost every single new meme is a variation of Wojak and has been so for like 10 years. And it will be so for the foreseable future, because Lindy. Internet culture is Wojak, just like Renaissance culture is the Greeks.

>> No.14254118

>>14254028
If a limited self can know Atman and make whole philosophy around it, then it's not purely subjective and it's open for scientific investigation due to exchange of information. The same applies to qualia. There you go, I solved the Hard Problem of Whatever.