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Can we have a Theologian tier list?

>> No.14227974

top: calvin

>> No.14227978

fpbp

>> No.14227982
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>> No.14227983

Abu Abd al-Rahman Ibn Aqil al-Zahiri is at the top

>> No.14227984

No Meister Eckhart, Karl Rahner, Rudolf Otto?

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>>14227982

>> No.14228018

>>14227970
>Theology
Eat shit, fag.

>> No.14228024

>>14228018

>Eat shit, fag

You first, bullshitter.

>> No.14228265
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Theology is a perverse discipline; it is masochistic. It is a subtle way of torturing yourself, but very subtle. In fact, nobody has ever said that it is a hidden form of masochism, self-torture and perversion, but I would like to make it clear to you that the theology of all the religions is basically stupid. It talks about things it knows not. It talks about things which cannot be talked about. It goes on moving in a vicious circle of contradictions because religion is silence and theology is nothing but words.

In the East the division has been very clear, hence we have been saved from a very great curse. In the East, the mystic has never tried to be a theologian and the theologian has never been thought to be a mystic. They have been separate disciplines. In the West, theology has dominated, so much so that either a mystic had to talk in terms of theology or he had to be ready to be burned alive.

Dionysius must have felt the utter futility of all that he was saying. I can feel his pain. I can feel compassion and love for him. I can see the man knows. But the people who were in power were utterly ignorant of the truth. And he did not want to be burned alive so he had to talk in a stupid way.

Lao Tzu talks directly, Buddha's statements are absolutely clear; there is nothing airy-fairy about them. Mahavira says whatever he wants to say without creating a great camouflage of big words, theories, ideologies, philosophies. They are very matter of fact people and very precise too, almost mathematically precise.

That's why in the East the statements of all the great enlightened masters are known as sutras. Sutra means a very condensed statement, all that is nonessential has been eliminated, only the very essential has been expressed. They are like seeds. You can sow those seeds in your soul and a big tree will start growing in you with millions of flowers and millions of seeds. But the statements themselves are very small. They don't go zigzag; they are straightforward, they go like an arrow. They don't go in a roundabout way because they are not afraid to say whatever they feel like saying.

The West has not allowed that freedom. And now even in the East the Western disease is spreading. Now even in the East the freedom is disappearing.

I am continuously condemned just because I go on saying the truth as it is, without making any compromise with any kind of theology - of the Hindus, of the Jainas, of the Buddhists, of the Mohammedans, of the Christians. They are all against me. It is a strange phenomenon in the East. It has been the tradition in the West, but the disease has come to the East too. Otherwise in the East nobody has ever been crucified, nobody has ever been killed, poisoned, like Socrates, Jesus, al-Hillaj Mansoor and many others.

>> No.14228311

>>14228265
>Otherwise in the East nobody has ever been crucified, nobody has ever been killed, poisoned, like Socrates, Jesus, al-Hillaj Mansoor and many others.

Damn....

>> No.14229755

>>14228265
tldr

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>*solves theology*
nothing personal mleccha

>> No.14229872

>god tier
Alphonsus, Aquinas, Jerome, Basil, St. John Chrysendom, Clement of Alexandria
>Beyond great tier
Augustine
>Great tier
St. John of the Cross, Gregory the Great

>> No.14229881

Lubac, Urs von Balthasar, Ratzinger

>> No.14229889

>>14228265
this but unironically.

>> No.14229899

>>14229762
No buddhists please

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>>14227984
Unbelievably cringe
>>14229881
Based communio path
>>14229872
Augustine and St John of the Cross deserve to be higher

>> No.14229928

A: Schopenhauer, Epicurus, Charles Darwin
B: Nietzsche, Stirner
C: Kant
D: Richard Dawkins
F: Aquinas, Augustine, Muhammad, Jesus, Sankara, Buddha, Zeus, Ignatius the list could go on

>> No.14229930

>>14228265
>sat on a plane with a guy who liked Osho
>he asked to play me in chess
>was extremely polite and helped guided me through the game
>probably could of easily beaten me but it ended in a draw with his help
>made me want to play chess

We talked about religion for awhile, he didn't really convince me though. Extremely nice guy though. Wasn't Osho accused of leading a cult though?

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>>14229899
>Adi Shankara
>Buddhist
he was one of the main Hindu theologians/philosophers and debunked Buddhism

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>>14227982
based sectarian marcher

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>>14227982

>> No.14230643

>>14229881
no nouvelle théologie pls

>> No.14230659

>>14229930
>Wasn't Osho accused of leading a cult though?

Are you telling me organized religions are not cults. Are you telling me abrahamic religions are not cults? How tf is osho a cult leader when he is againist it and has been shitting on the idea of cults and societies all his life.

>> No.14230661

Origen and Clement for top tier

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>>14229990
>Adi Shankara
>Buddhist

Yup, exactly.

>> No.14230730

>>14230666
>666
>the devil is attacking shankara
Your true form reveals itself. That image is an assortment of passages from very outdated books combined with random passages from wikipedia. I'm familiar with all those claims already as well as the instances where all of those ideas can be found in pre-Buddhist Hindu writings (along with most of the ideas of Buddha, who mostly ripped his shtick from the Upanishads). I won't bother replying to a bunch of random claims compiled into an image, if you'd like to you can choose any specific sentences or a paragraph from the image and I'd be able to explain why it's wrong and provide citations proving i'm right.

>> No.14230742

>>14230643
whats wrong with that