/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14184672]

I have no background in philosophy yet I am determined to "get" Nick Land. My instincts tell me that he's /myguy/. How do I approach the bad boi in pic related?

[Anonymous No.14184674]

start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.14184677]

>>14184674
Isn't there an accelerated path to accelerationism?

[Anonymous No.14184683]

>>14184677
Fuck trannies, do speed and read neuromancer

[Anonymous No.14184695]

>>14184677
no
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.14184703]

>>14184695
Fine, fuck Nick Land, then and fuck reading in general.

[Anonymous No.14184745]

>>14184683
this guy here gave you the accelerated path

[Anonymous No.14185040]

>>14184695
Starting with the Greeks is useless for Land.

[Anonymous No.14185054]

>>14184703
Kek start with the Greeks it is then.

[Anonymous No.14185096]

>>14185040
If someone has no background in philosophy, and wants to read some philosophy they should
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.14185110]

>>14185054
then Saint Augustine, Saint Thomas Aquinas, Duns Scotus, Ockham, Early Moderns, Kant, Hegel, Marx, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Freud, Dilthey, Husserl, Heidegger, Lacan, Bataille, Deleuze, Guatarri, and Agamben.

[Anonymous No.14185119]

>>14185110
and H.P. Lovecraft

[Anonymous No.14185120]

>>14185110
>Saint Augustine, Saint Thomas Aquinas, Duns Scotus, Ockham, Early Moderns
Skip these, they have nothing to offer but mental and spiritual lifelessness.

[Anonymous No.14185123]

>>14185096
Wrong. History and thought aren't linear. And when ideas are completely opposite to the Greeks understanding them will not help.

[Anonymous No.14185128]

Ok, Boomer.

[Anonymous No.14185243]

>>14185120
How exactly are supposed to understand Kierkegaard, Descartes, Malebranche, and Heidegger without understanding Augustine proto-hermeneutic phenomenology of the soul experiencing its inner relation to God? How is one to truly understand what Heidegger and later thinkers mean by being without understanding Thomistic existentialism? Again, being according to Heidegger and Deleuze are incredibly difficult to understand without the issue that Scotus exposes through the univocity of being? Ockham is likewise a very interesting metaphysician who Razor can be against applied to problems of being. And early moderns is no? How? Continental philosophy today is nearly entirely predicated on the problems of Cartesianism. The concepts of Leibniz are still constantly in use today and being questioned in terms of Hegel and Aristotelian logic. May I also remind you that Spinoza, that blessed man who all ontologists owe so much, is infact an early modern thinker!

[Anonymous No.14185260]

>>14185123
Haha this guy thinks he can engage in the dialectic by only listening to one side of the conversation.

[Anonymous No.14185276]

>>14185123
very non-synthetic pilled of you.

[Anonymous No.14186177]

>>14185260
>technogrug like buy stuff
>technogrug chop off dick with stuff
>technogrug coom
What dialectic?

[Anonymous No.14186389]

I really doubt you guys read ALL the required reading to finally reach the point of understanding of near all philosophy to the time of Nick Land.

Many esteemed university professors wouldn't qualify since they skipped parts by not understanding them or focused to much on one area by narrowing doen on it to achieve their goal of becoming established.

Sure you could also jsut pick up Nick Land after a couple wikipedia articles, but frankly if you didn't dwell on many 19-20th century philosophers and on all the previous philosophers necessary to understand them, you probably aren't to far removed from the dude who read couple major works, school of life and then picked up Fanged Noumena.

[Anonymous No.14186398]

>>14186389
>you probably aren't to far removed from the dude who read couple major works, school of life and then picked up Fanged Noumena.
isn't that 99% of the people who read FN?

[Anonymous No.14187597]

>>14184672
Read Structural Anthropology by Claude Levi-Strauss
Read Capital vol. 1 by Marx
Read Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics and Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals by Kant or you could read his three critiques.
Then read Kant, Capital, and the Prohibition of Incest: A Polemical Introduction to the Configuration of Philosophy and Modernity

[Anonymous No.14187618]

>>14184677

[Anonymous No.14188249]

>>14184677
read A Thousand Plateaus

[Anonymous No.14188377]

>>14184672
Capitalism is an unstoppable AI God creating itself from the future.

[Anonymous No.14188384]

>>14188377
Based

[Anonymous No.14188441]

>>14188384
Y'all niggas don't even know how /lit/ shit is gon be

[Anonymous No.14188719]

>>14188384
>Based
on what?

[Anonymous No.14188730]

if you know nothing about philosophy and just want to fit in with an edgy meme aesthetic, you should have no problem "getting" nick land already

[Anonymous No.14188744]

>>14188730
This.
Nick Land is vapid shit.

[Anonymous No.14188769]

>>14188377
>2019
>teleoplexy has forgotten me

[Anonymous No.14188775]

>>14188377
>Capitalism is an unstoppable AI God creating itself from the future

[Anonymous No.14188821]

>>14188744
Kant, Capital, and the Prohibition of Incest is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.14188830]

>>14188821
that paper is just a watered-down, drug-addled and overly self-important rehash of Dialectic of Enlightenment. only people who have no familiarity with 20th century think he ever said anything unique.

[Anonymous No.14188838]

>>14188830
Truth

[Anonymous No.14188863]

>>14188719
Observation.

[Anonymous No.14189191]

>>14184672
His early stuff is okay. After like the 90s he lost his mind on amphetamines and became a schizo. I'd skip him and just read some contemporary left literature.

[Anonymous No.14189336]

>>14185120
literally only read these and not the other ones if you want to enjoy a fulfilling life of non-illusion

[Anonymous No.14189343]

>>14189336
cut ockham and early moderns
add bible
take the lifepill

[Anonymous No.14189580]

>>14185110
What do you mean by Early Moderns? Would you mind assembling a list?

[Anonymous No.14189595]

>>14184677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOVKHg_PJQ

[Anonymous No.14189757]

>>14184672
just read him, op. so many tryhards in this thread. shaking my head..

[Anonymous No.14189873]

>>14189191
>contemporary left literature
Sounds somehow worse.

[Anonymous No.14189897]

>>14189191
>contemporary left literature
I'd rather gouge my eyes out. You do realize that Land is frankly antithetical to such things, yes?

[Anonymous No.14190183]

>>14186389
The interesting thing about Land is that his thought offers a variety of "exits" from conventional thinking, so it makes sense to assume there are a variety of approaches one can use to access or decode what he's actually trying to say, or rather, to break into the Outside of thought that Land is luring us towards.

Remember that Deleuze thought his work would be better understood by poets, musicians and artists rather than academics or philosophers. Take the idea of tic systems, for example: It requires some understanding of cryptography and swarm behaviour to understand on a conceptual level, but a jungle track is effectively its performative equivalent, and listening to it allows you to circumvent the need for prerequisite knowledge through the body's ability to internalise rhythmic complexity.

After all, if Land's project is to "deepen unknowing", then jungle is the perfect vehicle to demonstrate this radical uncertainty through the disintegration of the One (the down beat) into the Many (tics, rhythmic subdivisions).

[Nick Land No.14190866]

>>14190183
Based and Plastic-pilled.

[Anonymous No.14192075]

>>14189191
>read some contemporary left literature
I'd rather shoot myself in the head with an aids infected bullet.

[Anonymous No.14192333]

>>14184672

[Anonymous No.14192649]

>>14184672
>2019
>Fanged Noumena

really?

[Anonymous No.14192669]

Been reading this shit while waiting for class and i have unironically had 3 different entities approach me about what im reading.

[coomerswarmi No.14192706]

>>14192669
>entities
why are you referring to people as entities?

[Anonymous No.14192710]

>>14192706
he reads Nick Land

[Anonymous No.14193038]

>>14192706
No bait, just my real thoughts. My social and emotional intelligence is likely higher than yours, I work with many differnt people on a daily basis on my job. I do find many good people there & even more from the large group of stupid people, out of which a small portion makes no secret out of the fact that they would like to make you kill yourself.
My workplace is filled with grade A people only, but I guess I'm not the only one hearing abhorrent stories from relatives who participate in real life, stories from work or private life, where again the stupidity of the large part of humanity is presented to you.

I want these people to burn. Who can blame me for liking Nick Land?

Land's dream will become true soon, mabye even during his lifetime. I am awaiting it in joyful anticipation. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.14194132]

>>14192706
I know a gnostic christian who believes people are just cognizant fragments of God's soul, thus he refers to everyone as "entities".

[Anonymous No.14194195]

>>14185110
>No Spinoza
tf is wrong with you. at least get your pseudery right

[Anonymous No.14194349]

Probably you should just read it

[Anonymous No.14195693]

>>14184683
Surprising, accurate. (CIA did all (trannies, speed, accelerationist-influence on pop culture) these things, so I suppose no surprise they are connected)

[Anonymous No.14195695]

>>14184672
isnt that just gibberish of a druggie?

[Anonymous No.14195696]

>>14185243
I do this autodidactly, personally. I am not apart of a philosophical institution so I have no need for covering the breadth of philosophy. If a treatise is unclear, typically their are references. Backtrack and reanalyze. The parts of philosophy I have found interesting and useful have little need for most of the Mainstream-LineageTM.

[Anonymous No.14195710]

>>14190183
Is this the actual text of Fanged Noumena or one of Lands work? It sounds like some high ass wook shit.
>His later work has become increasingly focused on advocating for scientific racism and eugenics, or what he calls "hyper-racism."
There is much better Active Nihilism than a Internet Racist Dark Enlightnment Neo Reactionary.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/topic/nihilism

[Anonymous No.14195913]

>>14195710
>Likes Nihilism
>Lacks reading comprehension
Checks out