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14148302 No.14148302 [Reply] [Original]

Liberalism, then democracy, then socialism, then radicalism, and finally
Communism and Bolshevism, only appeared historically as steps taken by the
same evil, as stages in which each one prepares the next in the complex unity of
a process of decline

>> No.14148326

The forms of standardisation, conformism, democratic
levelling, frantic overproduction, the more or less arrogant and explicit cult of the expert (‘brain trust’), and the petty materialism of Americanism can only clear the road for the final phase, which is represented in the same direction by the Communist ideal of the mass man. The distinctive trait of Americanism is that the attack on quality and personality is not accomplished by means of the brutal coercion of a Marxist dictatorship and the care of the state, but takes place almost spontaneously, by means of a civilisation that does not recognise ideals higher than wealth, consumption, profit, and unchecked economic growth — an exaggeration and reductio ad absurdum of what Europe herself has chosen

>> No.14148346

Marxism did not arise because of the existence of a real social question, but the social question arises — in countless cases — only because Marxism exists, in other words artificially, or in terms that are almost always unsolvable, because of agitators, who are notorious for ‘raising class consciousness’.

>> No.14148361

The ancient republics were aristocracies — as in Rome — or oligarchies, these latter often possessing the character of tyrannies. Modern republics belong essentially to the world that came into existence through Jacobinism and the anti-traditional and antihierarchical subversion of the nineteenth century. This kind of world, which is not ours, must be left behind. In terms of principle, a nation that is already monarchical and then becomes a republic can only be considered a ‘downgraded’ nation. In Italy we should not play a mistaken game in the name of loyalty to the Fascism of the Salò Republic, because if, for that reason, we feel we ought to follow the false road of republicanism, we would at the same time be disloyal to something larger and better, and throw overboard the central nucleus of the ideology of the Twenty Years of Fascism, which is its doctrine of the state, in the function of authority, power, imperium.

>> No.14148429

What the fuck did I just read?

>> No.14148442

>>14148429
Evola Schizoposter

>> No.14148448

>>14148302
I don't disagree. But I am not particularly taken with the character of society that Evola wishes to replace it with. I am more interested in tory radicalism and populism as a solution than a return to mystical warrior paganism. We can restore personalism and localism to society, and we can reorient the public square towards a common good conducive to human flourishing without using occultism as an aesthetic building block and without total disdain for the sentiment of the common man

>> No.14148576

>>14148448
>I am more interested in tory radicalism and populism as a solution than a return to mystical warrior paganism
I do agree with this. Or perhaps an absolute monarchy with limited power - balanced by religious order and political parties.
However Evola was a genius when it comes to diagnostic. Too bad he was stuck in his "warrior vs contemplative" society since late 20s

>> No.14148591

Actually Evola has two major flaws
1) He considered the Guelph victory decisive in shaping the Italian politics/mind
- That is not true. Dante was in favor of Guelph against the Ghibellini and Dante was pretty much a person whom Evola respected and considered traditional. Not only that but the warrior type Evola advocated is why Lutheranism and humanism destroyed europe in the 16th century
2) He was forced to admit that a religious doctrine like Catholicism would be central in the restoration of mankind but he would always speak in vague terms if one should restore the Church or ignore it. It was a contradiction he failed to resolve.

>> No.14148637

>>14148591
Lol you haven't even read Evola obviously. The point about Dante was that he was anti-pope.

> the warrior type Evola advocated is why Lutheranism and humanism destroyed europe in the 16th century

What is this even lol

> He was forced to admit that a religious doctrine like Catholicism would be central in the restoration of mankind but he would always speak in vague terms if one should restore the Church or ignore it. It was a contradiction he failed to resolve.

No he wasn't, he was clear that catholicism wasn't the answer. You're such a brainlet.

>> No.14148671

>>14148637
>No he wasn't, he was clear that catholicism wasn't the answer. You're such a brainlet.
Yes, but he admits in many works (including in Men Among The Ruins) Catholicism would need to be restored...

>> No.14148688

All civilization is just a training program to make men weaker, reactive, nihilistic. Fascism is just repeating this same error yet again. Can you really expect to hypnotize man into buying into god and kings and all of this authority that stands on air? No.. man must go beyond civilization, one day.

>> No.14148723

>>14148302
>steps taken by the same good*, as stages in which each one prepares the next in the complex unity of a process of liberation*
ftfy

>> No.14148930

>>14148688
Yes
YES