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14134768 No.14134768 [Reply] [Original]

When did you realize the existentialists are right?

>> No.14134775

>>14134768
Age 18.

But then by age 22 you realise it's the kind of stuff that appeals to 18 year olds.

>> No.14136105

>>14134768
name one thing they were right about

>> No.14136111

>>14136105
existentialism

>> No.14136176

>>14136111
you mean they were right that each individual gives their own meaning to existence? Or do you mean more than that?

>> No.14136182

>>14136176
Yes.

>> No.14136186

>>14134775
t. someone that distracts himself by working constantly towards a goal to attain meaning in line with Camus's thinking. Based.

>> No.14136201

>>14136182
How do you account for inherited values, social conditioning, propaganda, nationalism, the generally manipulable nature of the masses, social constructivism, the structuralists, Jung's collective unconscious, Freud's theory of the libido, and countless other examples of meaning being constructed from our biological and social conditions rather than conscious self-authoring?

>> No.14136593

>>14134768
I see no point in creating meaning for myself or working towards any goals or any of the other stuff they were peddling. They didn't solve existentialism.

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14136613

>>14134768
15 years ago
15 days ago

>> No.14136654

>>14136593
The inherent pointlessness of life should be what motivates you. There's no point in creating beautiful works of art or a family or whatever, so if you do decide to pursue these things, you can be assured that you're doing them for their own sake. Surmount your fate through scorn.

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14136662

When I read the only one that matters

>> No.14136665

>>14136201
Bad faith is a matter of disappearing either entirely into what currently exists (as outside your control) or into what doesn't (the fact that you could decide, or could have decided, to act another way) so you escape responsibility.
Good faith involves a simultaneous acceptance of being and nothingness - existentialism is a purposeful change so you're no longer like a reactive object, but only works insofar as the habit of consciously lying to oneself about what's possible is identified and thwarted.

>> No.14136670

>>14136665
Sounds like nothing but a bunch of words to me

>> No.14136708

>>14136670
Existentialism asserts that people lie to themselves about what they're capable of all the time in order to justify their self-inflicted damages and avoid responsibility - for existentialism, good faith is the same as not making excuses - therefore, anything outside human consciousness is not considered in terms of freedom or determination here.

>> No.14136739

>>14136670
you piece of shit