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14122881 No.14122881 [Reply] [Original]

This is awful. Who was the bigger brainlet: Goethe for writing this or the people in the XIXth century who considered it good.

>> No.14122966

i dont know but fuck Werther, i couldnt stand his world view, his fucking pseudointellectual rants and god just fuck werther, i didnt even finish the book because of how flawed and retarded his thinking is i have never been this angry reading a book

Mickiewicz was right calling this shit a stupis book

>> No.14122973

He wrote it when he was young, and no one can write anything worth reading before the age of 30.

>> No.14123153

It was literally an edgy cathartic bildungsroman potboiler you idiot, of course it's not good

>> No.14123179

Faust is the best though so we give this a pass.

>> No.14123186

>>14122881
Read it a week ago it was alright. Werther is basically the original incel.

>> No.14123191

>>14122881
>>14122966
>>14122973
>>14123186
>>14123153
Anglo-americans need to die.

>> No.14123192

>>14122881
One of the best books i’ve ever read. Made me hate the krauts a little less.

>> No.14123220

>>14123191
>>14123192
This. I can't believe there are so many philistines here.

>> No.14124234

>>14123191
OP here, literally a yuropoor, it sucked.
>>14123192
>>14123220
What is good about it? It didn't teach me anything, it was not an interesting story nor did it give me some special Insight into the human soul. Not to mention it's filled with pseudo-intellectual ramblings. The author's romantic view of the Country side is literally the view of someone who has never seen farmer at work. Not to mention that half the book is dedicated to Werther jacking off to that God damn girl who might as well be His waifu and not an actual person.
Docere, movere, delectare. The book did none of those.

>> No.14124264

Please remember it pissed Goethe off constantly how many young men thought Werther was awesome and sought to imitate the character. Goethe was baffled.

>> No.14124275

Lmao you guys realize it's a fucking story right? A ficition? A lie? An illusion? Stop getting so worked up over nothing lol

>> No.14124293

>>14124234
>It didn't teach me anything, it was not an interesting story nor did it give me some special Insight into the human soul.
Lmao you fucking brat
Shove your enormous ego up your boopiehole

>> No.14124468

>>14124234
Nevah gonna make it

>> No.14124868

>>14124293
What makes it good? Enlighten me.

>> No.14124923
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>>14123191
So do mass replies who add nothing to the discussion

>> No.14124946

>>14122881
Goethe was barely an embryo when he wrote it and he made a strong disavowal later in life.

>> No.14124966

On the bright side at least the author encouraged a lot of incels to commit suicide back then.

>> No.14124972

All the Werthers itt mad that Goethe shat on them

>> No.14125567

>>14122966
>>14122881
you fuckers didn't get the point

he was writing about you

>> No.14125588

>>14124234
>this is your mind on realism

>> No.14126195

>>14124275
if you only see literature as mere "lies" and nothing that can enrich your life beyond entertainment you should probably stop reading altogether

>> No.14126204

>>14126195
This is why the Puritans were unironically the best American writers.

>> No.14126206

>>14122881
Pleb

>> No.14126243

>>14125567
are you completelu retarded? the point of the book is to show how flawed werther's thinking is, but it doesnt make me hate him any less, a shitty character is a shitty character

>>14123191
t. americana

>> No.14126281

>>14126243
>I hate x character, therefore the character/book as a whole is shit!
I'm getting flashbacks to highschool lit classes. Not that this is particularly good work for Goethe or anything, but that's a pretty vapid way to approach lit.

>> No.14126719

Goethe disavowed Werther later in life because he lost the fire of youth and developed the irreversible impotence of old age. He even realised this, and said something to the effect that though he now considers it childish, there would be something wrong with a young man who does not at one stage feel akin to Werther