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14105650 No.14105650 [Reply] [Original]

is the republic something i can just read? i've not read any ancient greek before and i'm wondering if there's an agreed upon reading order or if i can just peck around as i please

i intend to read all so either way works, but republic is what i currently own a copy of

>> No.14106300

>>14105650
>is the republic something i can just read
yes just go ahead and do so, OP. dont let the anons stop you from chasing your dreams

>> No.14106309

FUCK NO.
You must read up on the history of ancient Greece, you must read the Odyssey and Illiad, become familiar with Greek mythology, and read up on the philosophies of the pre Socratics.

>> No.14106389

>>14106309
dont do this, it makes mustard

>> No.14106413

I read the Republic having not read any ancient greek stuff or philosophy before
I enjoyed it but I did struggle. It's very different from anything else
Op i'd recommend you read the Trial and Death of Socrates first, and the Symposium is a fun and easy read to that might help you settle in to Plato's style of writing too
You should also read the Iliad and Odyssey at some point but not just for Plato, you should be reading them anyway

>> No.14106448

Learn Greek or gtfo of lit pleb

>> No.14106465

>>14106309
Any good edition of the Republic has notes that explain (obscure) parts of the dialogue.

>> No.14106647

i would say it would be particularly helpful if you read the trial and death of socrates first - that is, euthyphro, apology, crito, and phaedo. they're all very short texts so it won't take long to read, i'd recommend just grabbing a pdf or reading them online somewhere. then you can dive straight into the republic

>> No.14106844

>>14106389
shut up the crystal results will be unbelievable. OP don't forget to breathe deep and take pics

>> No.14107037

>>14105650
Nope, just get Hackett

>> No.14107227

>>14105650
No, read the Five Socratic Dialogues first. Euthyphro, The Apology, Crito, Meno, and Phaedo. These 5 (or at least 4 of them) are considered the authentic Socratic dialogues, then Plato is said to have used him as a literary device.
They usually come bundled in an edition, translated together, because they are essentially the narrative of Socrates trial and death, and hit many of the key points of his philosophy.

>> No.14107288

>>14105650
yes. if you find ti too difficult you can stop after book one and read easier dialogues before proceeding. still, yes.

>> No.14108547

>>14105650
should be fine, the republic is a good book for anyone to read regardless of /lit/s need to understanding “the greeks”

>> No.14109832

no bro you'll get sick

>> No.14109835

uggggggggghhh oh godddd i tried to read the republic without properly priming myself with mythology, homer, trojan war history and the presocratics and now i can't stop shitttinnnnnngggggggggggg

>> No.14109837

>>14105650
Yes, and you can get a lot out of it. However, you'll get even more out of it if you read earlier Platonic dialogues and gain an understanding of the historical and intellectual context in which Plato was writing in.

>> No.14110280

>>14106309
Most philosophers don't even understand this stuff, so what good is it for a noob? Just start with the easier Plato dialogues.