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Uhh... isn’t this just The Atkins Diet?

>> No.14060457
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14060457

Go vegan and help your animal frens. Don't fall for meme diets that will give you a heart attack and that push ideology like "durrr top of the food chain." We need to recognize that animals are just a part of the ecology as well and if we keep trying to dominate and destroy nature we ourselves will go out with it.

>> No.14060474

>>14060457
It would be fine if we shifted domination of animals from industrial space to the personal.

>> No.14060510

>>14060474
that's not sustainable. there is a reason why it shifted to the industrial in the first place.

>> No.14060911

>>14060474
>It would be fine
No, it would not. Are you some kind of filthy utilitarian?

>> No.14060940

>>14060457
>ideology like "durrr top of the food chain"
Of all the things you could claim are just an ideology of nature, this is the most retarded

>> No.14060975

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlnxCouzU4

>> No.14060991

>>14060940
what?

>> No.14061067

>>14060457
Agreed. Factory farming is hell on earth and in reality we shouldn't call ourselves civilized until it's ended.

>> No.14061116

>>14060911
No, I just think it is good for man to brutally dominate other life, but factory farming is unsustainable.

>> No.14061137

Holy shit did this money grabbing clown really write a book about the carnivore diet? Good thing less people are taking him seriously.

>> No.14061271

>>14060415
Yeah all retarded low carb diets basically just boil down to eating a lot of meat and saturated fats.

>> No.14061294

>>14060415
I guess, word of advice for any anons who want to lose weight keto works great (plus exercise). I lost fifty pounds on keto over the course of about six months on it. The hardest part is the beginning but once you make the diet routine and the exercise routine it's actually pretty easy.

>> No.14061297

>>14061271
>saturated fats
>bad

>> No.14061300

I have no problem with eating animals or using their byproducts as raw material, but I do have a problem with animal farming. It's fucking disgusting.

>> No.14061321

>>14060415
Is this a porno cover?

>> No.14061323

>>14060415
Wait, this shit is real? I thought it was a low effort shoop...
>>14061116
>I just think it is good for man to brutally dominate other life
You can just say you're Welsh, you don't have to veil the sheep-fucking talk this thinly m8

>> No.14061327 [DELETED] 

Yeah they raise your serum cholesterol levels. Any major health organization (ie. not the meme blogs that you browse and studies funded by the dairy and egg industry) will tell you they are bad and will put you at risk for heart disease.

>> No.14061329

>>14060457
Based animal fren poster.

>> No.14061332

>>14061294
Also just cut soda out of your life, especially diet soda as the artificial sugars in it fuck up your gut biome in a manner that counterintuitively leads to high blood sugar.

>> No.14061339

>>14061297
Yeah they raise your serum cholesterol levels. Any major health organization (ie. not the meme blogs that you browse and studies funded by the dairy and egg industry) will tell you they are bad and will put you at risk for heart disease.

>> No.14061343

>>14061116
>I just think it is good for man to brutally dominate other life

power is for the weak. the strong let be

>> No.14061348

>>14061339
>cholesterol
>bad

>> No.14061358

>>14061348
yup it's bad
https://medlineplus.gov/cholesterol.html

>> No.14061367
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Become a Vegan Processist Anarchist

>> No.14061368

>>14061339
pussy

>> No.14061376

>>14060415
It's simple
If you are rich and in the first world, go be a vegan by all means
For everyone else, veganism is infeasible for a healthy, balanced diet.

>> No.14061380

>>14060415
>it's real
lmao what the fuck is this cover

>> No.14061388

>>14061368
I squat 5pl8 bitch

>> No.14061396

>>14060457
I hate vegans so fucking much

>> No.14061399

>>14060415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-cjd5cdIU

>> No.14061400

>>14061348
>>14061358
>amerilard science

>> No.14061427
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>>14061396
stop trying to cope with your bad decisions fren

>> No.14061439

>>14061427
>friends
I steal from my friends, i bone their girlfriends, sisters and mothers, i sure as hell will eat them if i fucking want to

>> No.14061440

>>14061400
Americans basically eat the opposite of what their health organizations recommend lol

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>>14060415
>Cure depression & disease
>coal burner and psych ward patient

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>>14061439
b nice to your frens

>> No.14061458

>>14061427
>eugenicist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ

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>>14061439
b nice to your frens

>> No.14061476

>>14061472
you just posted some frogs eating fried chicken and then removed it you fucking hypocrite

>> No.14061479

>>14060415
Kek, can it cure Klonopin addiction?

>> No.14061482

>>14061476
yeah that wasn't fitting for this thread lol it's just a meme image

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>>14060457
t. slave morality faggot. we are at the top of the food chain there is no reason to go vegan. plus if we stop eating them they will get eaten by other animals anyway.

>> No.14061496

>>14061388
/88/ checked

>> No.14061501

>>14060457
fpbp

>> No.14061552
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For every paperback sold, Mikhaila and her father Dr. Jordan Peterson will receive 1 $ directly.

The book offers 11 Chapters of revised transcripts and blogposts by Mikhaila Peterson on:
- how they cured their disease, depression and health issues with the carnivore diet and
- how ill people could start this kind of eating as well. The Transcripts are as follows:

1. The Agenda with Steve Paikin "Digesting Depression"
2. Joe Rogan Podcast #1070
3. Joe Rogan Podcast #1139
4. Podcast Interview of Mikhaila Peterson with Robb Wolf, including blood work
5. Podcast Interview with Ivor Cummins
6. Talk by Mikhaila Peterson at the Carnivore Conference in Boulder, 2019
7. Mikhaila Petersons Introduction of her "Lion Diet" on YouTube
8. Bonus-Transcript: Dr. Shawn Baker talking about his coronary calcium score and overall health status with years of being carnivore.

Furthermore, there are some blogposts by Mikhaila Peterson from her Website https://mikhailapeterson.com/


This is some PRIMO grifting

>> No.14061573

>>14061552
How many are they likely to sell though, maybe 5-10k?

>> No.14061580

>>14061552
>greedy guy has lots of stupid fans who will buy anything with his name on it
>greedy guy shills some meme diet
>compile all his meme diet advice, literally just copy paste some shit, takes like a day at most
>sell it on amazon
>guy is so greedy he doesnt even care as long as he gets a cut
>fanboys eat that shit up
>???
profit

>> No.14061596

>>14061552
I feel sorry for anyone that buys this

>> No.14061599

what makes the carnivore diet better than the keto diet?

eating a lot of meat increases your igf levels which can increase your chances of getting cancer. I'm not saying don't eat meat, but don't make meat the only staple of your diet.

>> No.14061675

>>14061599
both are meme diets

>> No.14061699

>>14060457
More animals are killed because of vegan living than omnivore living.

Conservationists love the environment.
Preservationists just hate humanity.

>> No.14061712

>>14061699
>More animals are killed because of the people who don't eat animal products than the people that do
Yeah ok keep eating up memes

>> No.14061794

>>14061376
Complete nonsense.
t. Indian

>> No.14061874

>>14060415
>"how to cure depression..."
>looks bummed and burnt

>> No.14061879
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>>14060415
do you think supplement hawker caveman rogan will have her on a few episodes to hear her out?

>> No.14061891

>>14061879
Maybe. Rogan gets triggered by vegans.

>> No.14061916

>>14060415
That is not a real cover

Tell me that is not a real cover

>> No.14061977

>>14060415
Yes and Peterson is still depressed even with it.

>> No.14062048

>>14061916
It's real. Look it up in amazon.

>> No.14062161

>>14061879
is anyone really creeped out by her face?

>> No.14062170

>>14060457
someone post the raw vegan tooth problems video

>> No.14062174

>>14060457
>don't fall for meme diets
>go vegan
What?

>> No.14062187

>>14060415
>>14061879

How does Jordan delude himself like this? His daughter is clearly a whore who got depressed because some dude pump and dumped her, now she’s using his fame and notoriety to launch a bullshit career with his wannabe masculine incel audience of monitor tanned pasties, pajeets and chinks. And the old man just lets it happen. It’s like Merlin and Vivian

>> No.14062305

>>14060415
>>14061879

How do you think she comes?

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>>14060415
I wonder how putrid her shit would be because of that diet

>> No.14062370

>>14062308
wayyy less putrid than the shit that comes out of an all vegetable diet for sure

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>>14060415
No; it is the animal serial killer diet. The lack of conscience that is inherent to it is requited by the entailing microchimerization of the one practicing such a diet; hence, the symptom that is depression does not become "cured", but, rather, its cause becomes substituted by a far worse disease that is irreversible on the biogenetical level.

>> No.14062394

>>14062370
But herbivores always have less putrid shit than carnivores in wild

>> No.14062426

>>14062048
very 90's

>> No.14062444

>>14060457
I feel worse about eating plants, something noble about the primary consumers, they make life possible. I still eat them and their fruits, and love doing so, but I think far harder about what I am doing than I do when eating meat. The wild rice in last nights chicken soup took me on quite the emotional roller coaster.

>> No.14062469

>>14061794
Absolute undeniable truth.
t. Streetshitter and omnivore

>> No.14062552

>>14061879
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7fncJdVjy5U
He already did

>> No.14062565

>>14062370
You're joking, right?

>> No.14062590

>>14062444
Kek, I had the exact same thought today. They're nobler than animals, they absorb sunlight directly, but also animals scream and suffer. Jesus Christ you just can't win in this fucking shithole of a universe

>> No.14062743

>>14060457
Based fren

>> No.14062773

>>14062552
she's cute

>> No.14062778

>>14062590
>Jesus Christ you just can't win in this fucking shithole of a universe
There is nothing to win, it is not a game.

>> No.14062869

>>14060457
Based anon full of love and compassion

>> No.14062885

>>14060415
Are meth and herpes meds a crucial part of the diet, or are they just optional?

>> No.14062898

>>14060415
the cover is telling me she treated herself with her father's cock

>> No.14062955
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>>14062898
thats on you, brother.

>> No.14063507

>>14061493
t. beta fag
vegetarianism/veganism is alpha as fuck

>> No.14063512

>>14061493
Do Americans really do this?

>> No.14063569

>>14063512
no more than any other nationality. Do you really have such limited experience with the world?

>> No.14063632

>>14062187
Is Peterson's audience really full of nonwhites? If so that makes sense. Always thought it was probably a lot of hapas.

>> No.14063708

>>14060457
Based and redpilled

>> No.14063768

This is actually a fake book made by trolls. People itt are grotesque and immature

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>>14061400
Where's your country on the list? :)

>> No.14063802

>>14063512
>Americans are the only meat eaters

>> No.14063812

>>14063801
>80 of them are expat kikes

i would ask you the same thing if america were "your" country in the first place lmao, you're just a worker drone in it

>> No.14063823

>>14063812
>b-but expats got the prizes!
It's almost as if that's the entire point and what America is founded on you fucking dolt.

>> No.14063888

>>14060457
I'm a vegan, but there's nothing wrong with meat. If you don't eat meat then undoubtedly millions of animals will never get to live. If you actually gave a shit about animals you'd let them live and just eat organic free range animals killed humanely. You're a brainwashed faggot with a 2d paper brain who can't conceptualize the world beyond the 3 talking points he's given. Get fucked cunt.

>> No.14063908

>>14063812
>Implying that's just America
>Implying you aren't a worker drone at best in your country

>> No.14064149

>>14061472
piss off

>> No.14064155

>>14063888
>killed humanely
look at this dude
and yeah you're not a vegan LOL

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>>14064149

>> No.14064177

>>14063823
then i guess you can't really complain about nonwhite immigrants flooding the country

>> No.14064181

>it isn't photoshopped
oh nononono

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>>14064157

>> No.14064687

>>14061339
Every major health organization told me to follow the food pyramid 20 years ago.
They've drastically changed it multiple times since then.

As soon as they stop citing epidemiological studies to justify their conclusions, I'll start listening to them.

>> No.14064791

>>14060457
Why does it seem more and more that "the carnivore diet" only exists to either be a strawman for vegans or for anti-vegans to epic troll ecks dee

>> No.14064882

>>14060415
What sort of psychological condition does she likely have if she unironically gets off to being large and powerful and her dad being small and weak?

>> No.14064896

I'm glad people are really starting to see what a charlatan Peterson is but I'll never forgive you people for taking this long to figure it out.

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>>14060457
Animals arent friends
They are enemies, competitors. Dont think that an elephant will spare you just because he's a herbivore. He would eat you in a heartbeat if his metabolism were to allow it.

>> No.14064966

>>14063888
>b-but without gigafarms there would be less pigs and cows in the world!!!

>> No.14064974

>>14060415
that's great but where can i learn about his klonopin diet?

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>>14060415
holy shit, is that the actual cover? it looks like a joke

>> No.14065042

Reminder that Christ was most likely vegetarian
>m-muh Luke 24:41-3!!
Most translations will just say "They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence." but why would they do this? The greek transcripts have another addition, which is rendered in such translations as the King James Version as "So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb, And He took it and ate in their presence." (italicized it).
Now what can we make of this? What is the it, which should be them if it is meant to say he ate both the fish and the honeycomb. Honey appears in the bible often to emphasis the greatness of the Lord and Heaven, (Judges 14:8; see Matthew Henry's commentary "Our Lord Jesus having conquered Satan, that roaring lion, believers, like Samson, find honey in the carcass abundant strength and satisfaction, enough for themselves, and for all their friends"). [See also commentary on Solomon 4:11].
Fish, on the other hand, represent the material flesh, which is dead without the living grace of God, as a counter to the symbolism of the living Bread which is the Lord. The Miracle of Fish and Loaves represents Christ's supremacy over both the material and spiritual, the spiritually alive and spiritually dead. Christ becomes identified with bread, which is true life, whereas fishing represents the material and superfluous world (Matthew 4:19).
Looking back to Luke 24:41-3, it is obvious that Christ forsook the fish and the 'it' he eats is the honeycomb, which would represent the ultimate triumph of the Lord over death and that which is material, and the sweetness of Heaven and the doctrine of Him. Translations which omit the honeycomb border on blasphemy.

>> No.14065325

>>14062391
underrated

>> No.14065337

>>14065042
also underrated

>> No.14065353

>>14060457
well we are on top because of brain, don't see how that's an ideology. But yeah, being a carnivore is kinda lame though.

>> No.14065374

>>14065042
How do you explain the passover meal?

>> No.14065380

>>14060457
or just eat normally and don't adopt cucked diets that reduce strength or have long term consequences

>> No.14065389

>>14062187
Why would he care that she launches a meme career based on his meme career? He should be proud.

>> No.14065405

>>14065042
The Eucharist is literally the body and blood of Christ, it's impossible to be a Christian and a vegetarian.

>> No.14065445

>>14065405
>The Eucharist is literally the body and blood of Christ,
'no'

>> No.14065457

>>14060510
it's far more sustainable if population counts are kept low (which itself is important for long-term sustainability)

>> No.14065522

>>14065445
Heathen.

>> No.14065547

>>14060415
No, it's even worse for you because it is also high methionine, tryptophan etc. The only reason you "feel great" is massively increased 11β-HSD1 expression (corticogenic activity) and the "anti-inflammatory effect" are the associated immunosuppressive properties.

>> No.14065556

>>14064952
>They're competitors.

They aren't. Don't try to absorb nature into your gay little rat race.

>> No.14065570

>>14065547
So it's good if you have inflammations?

>> No.14065574

>>14065457
there are 7 billion people on this earth don't be silly. unless we bomb ourselves to the point where the population has diminished to the point where we start living nomadically it's not viable. if it doesnt become too late, transitioning to a newer civilizational phase will require abolishing factory farming and adopting veganism.
>>14065353
get out of hierarchical thinking and start thinking rhizomatically. other beings of this earth have their own unique ways and modes of aesthetic experience and if we don't recognize that and learn to live together with them in relationships that don't espouse ideologies of hierarchy there will be dire consequences which have already begun.
>>14065380
nothing wrong with the vegan diet. all the memes about supplimantation and whatever are false. your brain is poisoned by memes. it is probably the most healthy diet.
>>14064952
>competitors
all ideology *sniff*
our ancestors had much more meaningful relationships with them. despite still eating them they did feel some remorse. they would be horrified if they saw what we were doing.

>> No.14065577

>>14065574
>our ancestors had much more meaningful relationships with them
You know that some society had litteral animal trials where the animal would get maimed and brutally killed at the end right?

>> No.14065579

>>14065574
>get out of hierarchical thinking and start thinking rhizomatically. other beings of this earth have their own unique ways and modes of aesthetic experience

Exactly this.

>> No.14065585

>eat shitty american diet for 20 years
>get depression
>have chronic pain
>have to walk in a wheelchair
>take antidepressants (ssri)
>take painkillers (morphine)
>be on 20 other pills
>nothing works
>come off pills
>try to eat healthy natural food
>exercise a bit more
>suddenly feel better
OH IT MUST BE THE MEAT SURELY IT WASN'T THE FAT THAT I WAS LITERALLY ON DRUGS AND EATING JUNK FOOD FOR TWO DECADES

the biggest joke is that these two morons are considered intellectuals.

>> No.14065598

>>14065577
yeah well that basically happens in multitudes everyday in factories. and sure you can still be critical that they still ate animals but it's not like they consumed them everyday nihilistically without a care about them. they used them for whatever rituals and did not waste them.

>> No.14065604

>>14065574
>all ideology *sniff*
Ecology isnt ideology you dipshit. Animals compete over limited resources, and humans are no different.
Your noble savage bullshit, however, is very much ideology.

>> No.14065605

>>14065353
Top of the food chain big brain grug, but a little bird is still freer than you.

>> No.14065613

>>14065522
faggot

>> No.14065617

>>14065604
This is ideology. The other anon is right. You're projecting the free market onto nature. Animals have no masters but their stomach. In summer time in some places, there are so many resources competition as a concept doesn't even exist. Animals eat and laze in the sun. There is death and predation but there is no rat race.

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>>14060457
based.

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>>14065617
>in some places in summer there is a multitude of resources
>therefore competition doesnt exist
This is probably the dumbest thing ive ever read. Nevermind that such an abundance will never last and is obviously extremely fragile, but even during such an abundance animals still compete with one another to get them. Even among herbivores, there is pretty often unprovoked aggression or just flatout murder of the young of other species/competing herds to make sure their ranks grow thin and their offspring inherit more. And that's in the best case scenario. As soon as drought sets in, herbivores will attack one another to get the best grass available.

>> No.14065653

>>14065640
>don't romanticize nature, that's ideology, demonize it instead

You and your masters have a keen interest in convincing people like me that it's bad, it's always been bad, but now it good. It gets old.

>> No.14065661

>>14065522
>i think that the breadth and depth of jesus makes the eucharist more than chabadnik ritual cannibalism
>HEATHEN

Not only is Catholicism anti-Christian, but the way in which it is so is itself most anti-Christian. The Subject totally ignored and explain away as particles bumping into each other, literally Materialism.

>> No.14065664

>>14065604
Didnt say anything about nobleness it savages. The passages in the Bible about God lettinf them eat animals are there just for justification so they would not feel as bad because in those times they actually lived with their animals and established relationships with them. But yeah that all goes past the mind of everyone today since all the killing is done out of sighr and everyone consumes meat nihilistically.

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>>14065653
>demonize nature by describing easily observable things that happen all the time in times of resource scarcity
There's nothing to demonize, it's just a fact of life. Like in pic related, you can see how the elephant shoos the rhinos away to get the grass. Am i demonizing the elephant by saying it does so? No, it's simply what the elephant is doing. It's neither bad nor good, it's just what happens and you are unwilling to admit it.

>> No.14065685

>>14060457
I love this little frog

>> No.14065688

>>14065579
Most animals, if not all, follow a hierarchy.

>> No.14065695

>>14065664
Not at all, it just give a social position to animal. Other religions believe some animals to be sacred.

>> No.14065699

>>14065688
they don't have conceptions of what that is. stop memeing yourself.

>> No.14065705

>>14065688
But not across species lines. Where do I slot the fruits on this grand hierarchy? Are blueberries higher than blackberried? Is a ladybug inferior to a pigeon? Nonsense.

>> No.14065720

His daughter is really cute.

>> No.14065721

>>14065699
And? They still follow it. Ants have no conceptions of hierarchy, they still act it out.

>>14065705
It entirely depend on what the criteria for the hiearchy is. Of course, an ant hierarchy is nonsense for lions. I was also talking about animals only but alright.

>> No.14065722

>>14065705
Pigeons eat ladybugs, so a pigeon is higher in this case, yes. Ecologists can actually quantify this quite easily by measuring heavy metal poison, which gets far more severe as you go higher up the hierarchy. Nematodes have the lowest levels, then rodents have slightly higher, and then birds of prey tend to suffer the most from the accumulated effects of heavy metal poisoning. Take ecology 101, you might learn something.

>> No.14065729

>>14065598
Because of scarcity yes. Who cares today.

>> No.14065732

>>14065699
An animal doesnt have a conception of something to act on it. They dont have a conception of genetics either, but they still follow it. Animals act on a lot of shit without knowing why they do it. Polar bears hide their nose while hunting, even though they have no idea what color their nose is. It's just a certain innate behaviour that was evolutionary advantageous.

>> No.14065740

>>14060457
fpbp

>> No.14065742

>>14061367
*Marxist

>> No.14065754

>>14065722
>Pigeons eat ladybugs, so a pigeon is higher in this case, yes.

Evil doctrine. Is a cancer higher than its host because it eats his flesh?

>> No.14065762

>>14065754
Cancer isn't a being, it's just a bunch of malfunctionning cells.

>> No.14065777

>>14065754
Cancer doesnt have a place in a food chain. Also
>evil
Go tell a carnivore it's evil for eating its prey. You're moralizing a system that is inherently not concerned with morals.

>> No.14065780

>>14065762
A pigeon is superior to a ladybug because it derives sustenance from the ladybug:s body, correct? Doesn't the cancer derive substance from my body? Are mosquitoes kings of the earth because I could make billions of them fat with my blood?

>> No.14065793

>>14065777
No, what is evil is your treating the food chain like some metaphysical hierarchy. So evil is an anthropocentric notion I'm projecting onto an amoral system, but your little chain of being here is not at all based on our self-assumed superiority as thinking beings

>> No.14065794

Jesus Christ. How the fuck is that a real cover?

>> No.14065825

>>14065780
Again, cancer isn't a being. But if you do want to consider a cancerous cell as one, and if the only criteria of your hierarchy is who's the better killer, then i guess it depends on the kind of cancer. Some can be treated by humans.

>> No.14065842

>>14065825
You didn't mention the mosquitoes.

Your hierarchy is based on "we're on top because we can do whatever we want to them and they can't do shit about it", just admit it. It's just the playground hierarchy of a bully

>> No.14065844

>>14065793
The food chain is an observable and descriptive hierarchy in the sense that gravity creates a 'hierarchy' between higher and lower objects. This isnt because of anthropocentric projection of hierarchical thinking, it's simply because water doesnt flow upwards. Hierarchical models form the very basis of ecology, and dismissal of them for weak moral reasons would unironically spell disaster for any attempt at ecological preservation, because you'd have to do away with things like cornerstone species and trophic tiers.
If you want, then you can make an alternative form of ecology without hierarchical thinking. It'd be completely worthless and would do only harm to any ecosystem it touches, but if that's what you want, then go ahead.

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>>14065842
>Your hierarchy is based on "we're on top because we can do whatever we want to them and they can't do shit about it", just admit it. It's just the playground hierarchy of a bully
It's also what tends to happen in nature. People tend to find out about this pretty quickly, you must've had a very sheltered life.
Pic related is an elephant bullying hippo's. Hippo's, in turn, bully anything that they can bully, and so on. How does your fragile heart deal with this ugly realization?

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>> No.14065885

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48336260-jordan-mikhaila-peterson---our-carnivore-diet

someone go leave an honest review

>> No.14065887

>>14060457
Fuck you faggot. I'm the apex predator bitch. go hug a tree.

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Party's over boys.

>> No.14065923

>>14065864
I don't care about animals so I eat them.

>> No.14065927

>>14065885
>5/5 never in my life have I laughed this much at a book cover
>shelves: read, comedy, must-must-must-have, all-time-faves

>> No.14065939

>>14065864
I care about certain animals, so I try not to hurt those certain animals
sorry a cow and a dog are not the same thing
also you're part of fad

>> No.14065959

>>14065844
The ecosystem is already being destroyed because of thinking like yours but ok lol.

>> No.14065964

>>14061323
>I guess, word of advice for any anons who want to lose weight keto works great (plus exercise). I lost fifty pounds on keto over the course of about six months on it. The hardest part is the beginning but once you make the diet routine and the exercise routine it's actually pretty easy.

Lol'd as a french canadian

>>14060457
Unironically based and redpilled. Expand your circle of compassion you low iq fucks

>> No.14065975

>>14065959
>Ignore keystone species and apex predators because admitting that such species exist would be "reifying hierarchical thinking"
>woops everything gets overgrazed because there are no apex predators to keep herbivores in check and now deforestation and desertification run rampant

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14065976

"Life is robbery, but the robber needs justification."
If you actually want to learn about ecology, you would all do well to read Whitehesd and Deleuze instead of poisioning your mind with memes.

>> No.14065979

>>14065854
>fragile little heart

I'm really tired of this boomer meme. You're all scarred anime villains who have seen it all, compassion can never survive the recognition of cruelty, so let's just take hippos as our model and do whatever we want with animals, etc. yawn

>> No.14066008

>>14065979
It's not just hippo's. Elephants bully whatever they want. Rhinos attack whatever they want. Orca's regularly bully large whales for no reason other than 'it's fun'. Dolphins bully and kill defective or deviating dolphins. Chickens pick on outsiders and losers to the point of killing them. Crows can hold vindictive and destructive grudges. Chimps will bully and murder individuals low on the hierarchy. Lions will murder the offspring of other lions.

Im not saying that bullying should therefore be fine, because the animal kingdom shouldn't be a moral model to follow. But you cannot blaim ecology for thinking in terms of hierarchy and describing behaviour that can only be seen as 'bullying' when it happens all over the animal kingdom.

>> No.14066251

carnivore and low carb diets are so fucking retarded

>> No.14066263

>>14065842
>we're on top because we can do whatever we want to them and they can't do shit about it
I'm not the giy who established the hierarchy but yes absolutely.

>hierarchy of bullies
And? Many hierarchies exist, including this one. And sometime it is useful.

>> No.14066265

>>14066251
Spoken like a true fat

>> No.14066275

>>14066263
>I'm not the giy who established the hierarchy but yes absolutely.

I'm glad you had the balls to admit it. Faggot.

>> No.14066288

>>14060457
Based animal lover. Keep fighting for animal liberation

>> No.14066405

>>14066275
>nooo you can't agree with someone on the internet

Ok

>> No.14066441

>>14065639
Water is a renewable resource, retard.

>> No.14066462
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14066462

Daily reminder that animals don't have rights and plants are also alive.
If you believe taking a life to eat is murder, all vegans and vegetarians are just as murderous.

>> No.14066467

>>14066462
murder and rights are legal concepts
also refer to this quote
>>14065976

>> No.14066470

>>14066405
>he thinks that's what I'm calling him a faggot for

>> No.14066471

>>14066462
also there is something called sentience

>> No.14066477

>>14066462
Kek. Go see what rights you have in a lion's den.

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>>14066462
>theft is a legal concept
That does not mean it isn't a moral concept to you fucking paramecium brain.

>>14066471
Plants are sentient. They are both self aware and conscious.

>>14066477
You're rights do not change whether violence is or is not present.
And your argument would still support animals not having rights.

>> No.14066765

>>14060457
enjoy your brain atrophy

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>>14066467
>theft is a legal concept
That does not mean it isn't a moral concept to you fucking paramecium brain.

>>14066471
Plants are sentient. They are both self aware and conscious.

>>14066477
You're rights do not change whether violence is or is not present.
And your argument would still support animals not having rights.

>> No.14066970

>>14065639
>everyone goes vegan
>water consumption stays the same or even goes up to compensate for increased production requirements for population

>> No.14067144

>>14066441
Tell that to California lmao

>> No.14067883

>go vegan
>chickens, cows, and pigs experience a population decline more severe than the holocaust if it actually happened
How does genocide help an animal species?

>> No.14067922

>>14064214
>target and McDonald's behind the fucking euthanasia clinic
that somehow makes it 10 times funnier

>> No.14067955

>>14065522
>eat god
>shit him out later
at what point does the transubstantiation reverse itself?

>> No.14067980

>>14066470
Calling me a faggot for thinking nature is ammoral is even worse

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>>14067883
>if its actually happened

>> No.14068009

>>14067883
>dur wut iz qualiety of life

>BUT DERE AMINELS!!!!

>> No.14068032

>>14067883
You're going to kill each and every one of them anyway, just not at once.
Nor is anyone proposing a mass slaughter. Though it is perhaps an interesting question what would be done with all of that livestock if everyone were to become vegan.
But you're going to kill all of them anyway, so I don't really see your point.

>> No.14068059

>>14060415
Is this real? Am I the only one who thinks that it looks like Jordan "I'm a Talentless Hack Who Regurgitates Boomer Sentiments" Peterson is looking at his boner?

>> No.14068073

>>14060415
Alternatively titled "How to Get Colon Cancer."

>> No.14068334

>>14068059
>>14068073
It's obviously fake, retards.

>> No.14068345

>>14060457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI-8Xj19Nts

>> No.14068437

>>14068334
Eat your words, retard.

https://www.amazon.com/Jordan-Mikhaila-Peterson-Depression-Transcripts/dp/1695812638

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>>14068437
Yea. It's still fake you know nothing faggot. It's a collection of tweets added to a book so that the "editor" could use their name.

Imagine being so fucking dumb the only way you can argue with Jordan Peterson is to purposefully misattribute a book in his daughters name.
And amazon hasn't removed it because you are a useful idiot for the political elite.

The more you fucking brainlets pull this obnoxious shit, the more support he gets.

Seriously. 100%.
Kill yourself.

>> No.14068518

>>14068493
Fucking retard. I have a PhD. Again, at your words.

>> No.14068521

>>14068437
You are dumb as fuck lmao.

>> No.14068564

>>14068521
I hold a PhD in bioinformatics. I'm much, much smart than you'll ever be. Eat your words.

>> No.14068565

>>14068518
Sure you do.

>> No.14068582

>>14068565
I hold a PhD in bioinformatics and am am also a CPA. I'm smarter than you'll ever be.

>> No.14068629

>>14068582
Is that so?
How many of your books have been published?

>> No.14068640

>>14062391

Fucking based anon

>> No.14068707

>>14062391
one of the most best trips on the site

>> No.14068738

>>14068707
This is the first time I've seen this trip how new am I?

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>>14060457
>>14061367
Vegan lifestyle is unnatural, you can't get vitamin B12 from plants or fungi. You could take dietary supplements, but I'd rather pass on choosing to eat pills my whole life.

>>14061116
This is pretty based tho. I don't think it's wrong to kill animals if you use their meat/skin, but producing meat takes a lot of resources. You could eat meat once a week to avoid B12 deficiency. The real problem is that eating meat every single day is (for the first time in history?) affordable to the masses. This doesn't mean it's sustainable. Do it for the planet, not le cute cows uwu

Also fuck cattle, they fart too much methane.

>> No.14068914

wash benis

>> No.14068942

>>14068738
He doesn't post very often, but he's quality every time he does.

>> No.14069013

>>14060457
vegan is also meme

>> No.14069023

>>14068942
T.nemo

Hang yourself tripfag.

>> No.14069734

>>14060457
Humane slaughter, just do it.

>> No.14069813

>>14068859

>you can't get vitamin B12 from plants or fungi

you don't get b12 from common plants anymore because humans have developed the habit of thoroughly washing their food, while meat is absolutely filthy and covered in shit. nothing wrong with taking a supplement either