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Does this give you an accurate vision of Hitler's reasonings and decisions, and is it worth reading?

>> No.14056697

Probably not since they had basically already lost the war after the 1941. Hitler's reasoning for everything leading up to Barbarossa is best spelled out in David Irving's trilogy.

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>>14056697
>Hitler's reasoning ... is best spelled out in David Irving's trilogy

>> No.14056795

>>14056697
Reddit-tier opinion

>> No.14056835

>>14056795
Fine, they had actually lost the war before it even started, because Hitler purged the SA for no reason instead of the OKW who endlessly backstabbed him out of jealousy. But everyone should read Irving.

>> No.14056876

>>14056835
Goering considered the SA to be violent degenerate thug who would have eventually turned against them. Not sure if Hitler agreed with that.

>> No.14056919

>>14056835
Ernst Rohm was trying to set up a military dictatorship, which was incompatible with nazi aims of a racial totalist state.

>>14056321
Read Evans, he's the best.

>> No.14056923

>>14056876
Hitler was concerned that Rohm was rhetorically pushing too hard for a total socialist overhaul of the entire business sector, which Hitler did not want to follow through with because he thought it would disrupt inter-class trust too much and weaken the nation. After 1933 the party basically had the people on their side and didn't need their paramilitary divisions to be so involved with street activism, so the SA was falling to the wayside anyway but they could have been repurposed instead of being totally castrated. There was always a large degree of distrust between the OKW and the party which was a much bigger problem from the very beginning, but the relatively small amount of tension caused by the SA was thought to be easier to dispel without as much public disturbance.

>> No.14056930

>>14056919
And yet they became a military dictatorship anyway, only without the military even being on board with that idea

>> No.14056956

>>14056930
you need to read some arendt

a military dictatorship takes over the machinations of the state.
a fascist dictatorship takes over the machination of the state the nazis sought racial hegemony over all states, and surplanted the national institutions of the states they conquered with party apparatus. A petty military dictatorship is almost never a totalitarian state.

>> No.14057999

>>14056321
I've read parts here and there; honestly aside from the introduction, which clears up a lot of the myths about Hitler's ability as a commander (the writers declare him among the finest of the war) the records are not going to be clear to most readers without a great deal of context. This is why this is a book for the specialist. I doubt your average reader will get anything out of it. Most of the conversations revolve around questions of weaponry and other minutiae. Not terribly interesting unless you have proper context of the events taking place

>> No.14058180

>>14057999
Anyone who would question Hitler's intelligence is a moron themselves anyway. The war would have been won if not for insubordinate generals.