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[Anonymous No.14032207]

How do I stop fapping to porn and attain eternal salvation?

[Anonymous No.14032217]

I've been trying to stop for years. But I think for me at least it isn't possible until my life is improved. How can I give up one of my few pleasures when I have no friends, no chance of getting sex or affection from a woman in real life, no job and little hope?

Fortunately my life has gotten far better over the past year and is continuing to improve. I am going to make it. One day I will be able to stop fapping.

See it as a chore you must complete to stay sane OP. A symptom of the problems in your life. And meanwhile improve your life so you won't need it one day.

[Anonymous No.14032216]

>>14032207
Imagine being such a weak human being that your problems are 'how do I NOT x', not doing something is the easiest thing in the world. I quit smoking and drinking and drugs, because its easy to just not do something. Just stop doing it, forget about it. You at some point never did it. Now DOING something, like starting a business so you never have to wagecuck again, that's hard.

[Anonymous No.14032233]

>>14032216
>You at some point never did it.
That wasn't you

[Anonymous No.14032245]

>>14032207
There is no god watching you beat your meat anon. No spirits noting down how many times you splooged to Mistress T so they can punish you for it later. If you have no other objections to fapping than nut to your heart's content.

[Anonymous No.14032253]

Please join us anon.
http://christchannel.xyz/boards.js

[Anonymous No.14032273]

>>14032253
>ITT: Discussion of kinism
>Kinism should simply be understood as the view that, from the Christian perspective, race is real and important as a creation of God.
no thank you

[Anonymous No.14032304]

>>14032207
Reposting from an earlier thread:

Porn is not inherently addictive. Let me clarify: heroin's chemical structure mimics endogenous opioids which allows it to bind to the brain's natural mu-opoid receptors. This has a direct neurochemical effect on your brain creating a physical addiction.

Porn abuse is a behavioral addiction. It is the symptom of an underlying mental or emotional trauma. It is a kind of self-medication and coping mechanism for that trauma. The symptoms you feel when you cut out porn, are not "withdrawal" they are the symptoms of that underlying disorder. People can actually die from drug withdrawal. They get chills, high fever, suffer incredible bouts of depression and pain. These symptoms have a biochemical origin. You will not experience this when quitting porn. This means that your efforts should not be focused on trying to "cure" your porn addiction but on identifying the underlying trauma and trying to resolve it. Unless you do that, the "addiction" will persist and will progressively get worse.

I can't give you specific advice. Your trauma will be deeply personal and its solution will require your own insight. I can advise you to sit down and think back to the first time that you started abusing porn, think about the context. For me it was when I was in middle school and used to look at naked pictures on an old computer in our house. There was no heating in that room so no one would go in there and I used to lock the door and use our dial up connection to look at pics of naked girls on google images. I started abusing porn to medicate feelings of anxiety over academic success and the associated feelings of worthlessness in the event of failure. I felt nobody would love me unless I had worldly success, including my parents. But rather than deal with that trauma I turned to porn as a temporary escape. I had those feelings when I was 12. Only now, in my mid-twenties, am I beginning to deal with them.

Trying to personify your addiction, trying to have an imaginary dialogue with him can also help, above all trying to understand your trauma, understand it without judgment, repression or aversion, is the best way--maybe the only real way--out of this hole. Everything else, nofap, self-help books, even religion, is just a superficial, temporary fix. At best you replace porn with another addiction, or your underlying disorder with a different one, at worst that new addiction or disorder is even more harmful than the original.

[Anonymous No.14032310]

watch the ultimate coomer on youtube whenever you get the urge

[Anonymous No.14032313]

>>14032304
>People can actually die from drug withdrawal
only alcohol and benzos which have an incredibly similar method of action and you have to be a real piece of shit to be that deep into it

[Anonymous No.14032414]

>>14032304
If I read this 5 years ago it could have saved my life.

[Anonymous No.14032428]

>>14032207
Pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance. Ask the blessed virgin Mary to intercede on your behalf. Remember that Christ willingly carried that cross and was crucified upon it. You can do it, though you might not immediately succeed.

[Anonymous No.14032439]

>>14032428
>Ask the blessed virgin Mary to intercede on your behalf
Wrong
“There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”

[Anonymous No.14032443]

>>14032439
>the man Christ Jesus
Albert Einstein

[Anonymous No.14032454]

>>14032439
>Not asking for the literal mother of God, and everlasting virgin, to pray to her Son and give you guidance.
Stack the deck in your favor, my man. The saints are nearer to the Lord and can pray for you too.

[Anonymous No.14032457]

>>14032207
eternal salvation LOL dude just coom have some fun dude COOOM

[Anonymous No.14032464]

>>14032304
You are wrong about drugs giving physical withdrawals and porn not doing it.
The physical withdrawal of porn is comparable to cocaine, both of which are not comparable to heroin or alcohol

[Anonymous No.14032479]

There is no eternal salvation. You have 80 years, if you're lucky. Do not waste them being a slave to the thing in your pants, which leaves you drained, tired, and apt to repeat it again, and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again. It only gains greater hold of you. That's why most people are animals and slaves to their own passions.

[Anonymous No.14032512]

>>14032304
Pop-psychology tier garbage by "addiction specialists", morons who blanket their crowd-pleasing arguments with concepts that are too much for their pea brains to grasp. Do you know what a paper in Psychopharmacology revealed? That sexual urges are "more robust" than drug urges in methamphetamine addicts. This alone turns your entire argument on its head. Other insights from neuroscience further prove you wrong. ΔFosB induction is observed in response to sexual behavior, which proves it is capable of leading to addictive/compulsive behavior in se. You belong on /r/nofap with this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14032534]

>>14032479
this post scared the shit out of me.

[Anonymous No.14032536]

>>14032479
>There is no eternal salvation.
gonna stop you right there, retard

[Anonymous No.14032550]

Maybe get some anti-porn software? If you have no access to porn, you can't fap to it.

[Anonymous No.14032570]

>>14032207
Consider one or all of these
>start praying
>wear a talisman or prayer beads or similar to remind you
>block porn sites that you use on your firewall

[Anonymous No.14032576]

>>14032310
what is that video

[Anonymous No.14032587]

>>14032207
I struggle with the same thing, brother. Reading Tolstoy helps me though.
https://archive.org/details/completeworks09tols/

[Anonymous No.14032600]

>>14032207
You need to coom to no porn for awhile to re-wire your brain. Coom in the shower with just imagination until you're feeling more normal again. Then soon you can cut out cooming altogether. But you're gonna have to reverse damage by practicing cooming without porn, this gets ur brain off the porn stimulus

[Anonymous No.14032602]

>>14032576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmBhQtB5nM0

[Anonymous No.14032610]

>>14032600
It's been suggested on /lit/ before somewhere to cut it out with non-hardcore images instead because otherwise your brain will reply the past memories of the HD hardcore video porn you watched, thus strengthening them.

[Anonymous No.14032616]

Imagine watching your pathetic coomer Ass in 3rd Person
Fapping to porn is the most incel thing you can do because its the path of least resistance

At least try to score a Girl from tinder

[Anonymous No.14032618]

I neglect reading, studying, doing my exercises and basically everything because I fap almost every day, and it takes hours to view some porn websites.

[Anonymous No.14032626]

>>14032454
I say again
“There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”

[Anonymous No.14032655]

>>14032616
Both are slave and fleshpilled.

[Anonymous No.14032677]

When I refused to sex and hopes to have relationship, I was able abstain from watching porn and fap for two weeks. And it's good enough, because I just don't think about sex or porn. But when thoughts become obsessive, I spend five minutes on porn. That's all.

[Anonymous No.14032790]

>>14032428
With all respect to this poster here for sharing their feedback, please don't do this OP. Intercessory prayer inculcates weakness in people, who eventually lose all faith in their own ability to solve their own problems, and genuinely imagine that transcendent, metaphysical entities are assisting them in their mundane, mortal failings. I'd recommend looking into Buddhism and trying to emulate the Buddha in his approach to defilements, namely the understanding of their cause and the determination to remove them. DO NOT DEPEND ON ANYONE BUT YOURSELF. YOU CAN AND SHOULD SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS BY YOUR OWN EFFORTS. DON'T ENSLAVE YOURSELF TO THE DEMIURGE OR HIS ASSOCIATES. YOU ARE THE ALL-PERVASIVE CONSCIOUSNESS WHICH REALITY ITSELF IS MADE OF, AND THE OBJECT OF ENLIGHTENMENT IS THE REALIZATION OF THIS FACT DIRECTLY.

[Anonymous No.14032835]

>>14032790
>Spreading blasphemy and denying the saving grace of God.

[Anonymous No.14032850]

>>14032790
fuckin based

[Anonymous No.14032910]

>>14032216
yes

[Anonymous No.14032983]

>>14032618
same. i bought like 6 books this year and haven't finished any of them because all i do is drugs and coom. i dont even try to make excuses to myself anymore. finding anything that satisfies my desire is getting harder and harder so i find myself jerking it to taboo content in order to strengthen my boner.

[Anonymous No.14033014]

>tfw you realize the amount of times you've fappd is DEFINETLY in the the tens of thousands
i'm a little proud

[Anonymous No.14033016]

>>14032207
Watch this every morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wdRQW8WmVI