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>author self-inserts as an extremely minor character

>> No.13987392

>>13987385
I don't even know that that face means

>> No.13987415

>>13987385
God tier:
>author bases a good guy character/friendly minor character on his childhood friend/long-time friend/family member

Decent tier:
>author self-consciously inserts himself as a rather positive minor character

Average tier:
>author inserts a literal copy of himself as a moralist/authority/overly intelligent non-minor character

Shit tier:
>author self inserts a more intelligent and insightful version of himself as main fucking character

>> No.13987430

>>13987392
Watch the movie.

>> No.13987440

>>13987385
So, every painting depicting many different people?

>> No.13987441

>>13987430
But doctor, I have already seen it...

>> No.13987480

>>13987415
Vonnegut tier
>author himself is personally present in his own work as he exists in real life and his role is shockingly brief and completely irrelevant

>> No.13987508

>>13987415
Damn. I'm writing a book where I'm employing both God Tier and Average Tier.

>> No.13987530

>>13987480
I loved Vonnegut as a teenager and I think he did his cameos well. In Slaughterhouse Five he just briefly appears shitting his guts out in the prison camp, and in Breakfast of Champions he watches the breakdown of everything then kind of... Takes over and ends the book? Haven't read that one in a while.
Kilgore Trout is a bit of a self-insert too, but he's always an even crazier, more crotchety old man than the real Vonnegut.

>> No.13987745
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13987745

>>13987415

ascended
>author bases every single character, major or minor, on a different aspect of himself

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>>13987415
What about author inserts a worse version of himself as an antagonist/anti-hero/non-minor character?

>> No.13987772

>>13987415
Ascended tier:
>author inserts himself as flawed individual and exposes all his insecurities to the world

>> No.13987782

>>13987415
Übermensch Tier:
>author inserts himself as a self-deprecating caricature

>> No.13987786

>author self-inserts as the narrator, but not in, like, the exposition but during the middle of the novel, as an irreverent side remark

Damn cheeky bastard...

>> No.13987790

>>13987772
wtf you copied me before I even posted

>> No.13987800

>>13987415
I've been thinking of using family member as elusive inspiring figures that come up for a few pages, unwittingly help the strandled main character, and never appear again. The "spontanously generated kind stranger" if you will. We've all met at least one in our lives.

>> No.13987811

>>13987480
Vonnegut is pretty much every character that has more than two and less than twenty sentences of dialogue (i.e. everyone except the protagonist)

>> No.13987812

>>13987745
>George Lucas - American Graffiti

>> No.13987815

>>13987760
Sounds extremely based

>> No.13987821

>>13987480
Cringe

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>>13987815
Thanks anon, I didn't know if it would be weird or not to do

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13988155

>>13987772
DHL perfected this

>> No.13988168
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>Writes highschool friend's suicide note as himself
>self inserts as the narrator all along
>follows the character's suicide

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13988173

>>13987415
Transcended tier:
>author self-inserts as his female alter ego

>> No.13988307

>>13987760
Actually, considering certain interviews Miura has given, it would seem like he's done more what >>13987745 described.
I remember a quote by him saying that he based the Band Of The Hawk on a group of friends he had in his youth and that "sometimes i would be Guts, other times i would be Rickert, and sometimes i would be Griffith".

>> No.13988312

>author uses his /fit/ tier homoeroticism to write both the male and female side of the sex scene in detail

>> No.13988321

>>13988155
I got a DH Lawrence book of short stories and started reading them like two months ago and the dialog is completely unintelligible. I'm usually fine at parsing different English dialects in writing, but I have no idea what in the fuck they're saying at all, it seems like garbled nonsense. Combined with the specific agricultural lingo I got about twenty pages in, realized I had absolutely no clue what was going on or who these characters were, and gave up.

>> No.13988330

>>13987385
I insert 4channel users into my stories. And yes, Londonfrog does get his head cracked open in the streets and dies.

>> No.13988332

>>13988321
dont give up on him, DHL is truly awesome once you get into him

>> No.13988346

>>13988332
Are all his books like that? It was legitimately harder for me to figure out what the fuck was happening in Lawrence than Joyce.

>> No.13988375

>>13987745
fuck i do this

>> No.13988409

>>13987385
>author self inserts as a more racist, demoralized version of himself

>> No.13988419

>>13987385
I self inserted myself as a minor antagonist in a boxing book.

>> No.13988422

>>13988346
I've only read one of his novels but I found none of it hard to read, those stories must have been unique in that

>> No.13988423

>>13987385
>author self-inserts as the titular character

>> No.13988424

>Author self inserts and his brutal murder by a psychopath is the main plot point of the last third of the novel

>> No.13988431

>>13988423
>Author is female
Titular as hell...

>> No.13988457

>>13987782
This is literally Houellebecq's The map and territory. He writes his own writer image caricature to be brutally murdered and then he describes the sight it in detail. Great stuff

>> No.13988589

>>13987415
Mastermind tier:
>author inserts himself as the most uninteresting character in the entire novel, only to base an entire chapter off said character

>> No.13988593

>>13987745
Dostoevsky

>> No.13988648

How would you characterize this?
>Author self-inserts himself as the main character but accentuates all of his negative qualities

>> No.13988724
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>>13987385
>black author self-inserts herself as light-skinned African-American woman with straight hair who can do no wrong
>women hate her because they're jealous of her light skin and straight hair
>men hate her because they can't fuck her
>if she speaks at all she's spewing pseudo-philosophical shit about womanhood or some shit
>gets three SOs
>each relationship ends in a way that isn't her fault
>last SO is in his early twenties and she's middle-aged when he worships the ground she walks on

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13988738

>Why yes I, the author, self-insert as the first-person narrator protagonist who gets cucked and addicted to drugs, how did you know?

>> No.13988827

>>13987760
But he did nothing wrong?

>> No.13989041

>>13988307
Ah, yes. I think that's how he got Guts and Griffith to feel like such real people. My antagonist is a more impetuous, emotionally immature, unintelligent version of myself.
>>13988827
t.Locus

>> No.13989092

>>13987745
>>13988375
>>13988593
peak cringe tier

>> No.13990009

>>13987385
>author self-inserts as the book's reader and briefly writes to himself in the second person

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>>13987745

>> No.13990030

>>13987745
Based Hesse

>> No.13990264

>>13987430
fuck off, kindly

>> No.13990270

>>13987800
Will just seem Deus Ex Machina in practice though.

>> No.13990325

>>13987415
Schizo tier:
>author inserts himself as an array of minor antagonists

>> No.13990467
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13990467

>>13987385
>author self-inserts as the subhuman minor antagonist who dies a humiliating death

>> No.13990509

>>13987415
>Shit tier:
>>author self inserts a more intelligent and insightful version of himself as main fucking character
I do this. No way to stop me.

>> No.13991713

>>13987415
>author self inserts a more intelligent and insightful version of himself as main fucking character
You mean based tier

>> No.13991719

>>13987385
>Clive Cussler, author of Dirk Pitt novels, has inserted himself as a deus ex machina character in several of his books

>> No.13991733

>>13990509
can you write though? your prose might still be based

>> No.13991769

>>13988431
underrated

>> No.13992019
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13992019

Mark Twain does it in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. After a shooting of a obnoxious crazed drunk in the street, a guy in a white hat explains it to some of the crowd, the guy is Twain.

>> No.13992030

>>13987415
Patrician Tier
>author inserts someone he dislikes as a minor character and uses it to mock said person

>> No.13992044

>>13992019
I think Robert E. Howard did this too in one of his Conan stories. He's just a simple traveller with a dog who gets murdered shortly after meeting Conan.

>> No.13992046

>>13990009
Any examples of this?

>> No.13992147

>>13987745
I mean It looks like a good idea untill You realize that CWC did it too...

>> No.13992153

>>13990509
I can choose not to read your stories.

>> No.13992156

>>13987745
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto

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13992205

>>13987385
>Author self-inserts as a semi-mythical figure who is directly responsible for the current state of the world

>> No.13992448

>>13987385
>author self-inserts in all characters

>> No.13992456

>>13992147
Sonichu is extremely based

>> No.13992519

>>13990270
I feel like it could be done, but it'd be tricky. You'd have to lead up to it somehow, maybe by having a theme of happenstance and coincidence as important drivers or something

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13992531

>author self inserts as a talking animal

>> No.13992543
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13992543

>>13987385
>Author inserts as a minor character who gives the protagonist bad advice

>> No.13992562
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13992562

>author inserts as a pointless character who lives in the woods

>> No.13992566

>>13992030
kek

>> No.13993290

>>13992030
There's that guy on Divine Comedy.

>> No.13993331

>author writes under the pseudonym of a transdimensional godhead minor character alluding to the idea that this reality itself is a fiction in which they are a character

>> No.13993353

>author self-inserts as a murderous pedophile

>> No.13993375

>>13991769
Ahahaha thank you

>> No.13993387

>>13990509
pyw

>> No.13993412
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13993412

>>13987385
>author self-inserts as a supporting character so hard that most readers mistake him for the protagonist

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>>13987415
Jesus Christ dying on the cross then resurrecting tier:
>Author self inserts a completely awful version of himself as a minor character who's only function is as a random asshole who only appears in a single character

>> No.13993432

>author self inserts into a multiplicity

>> No.13993804

>>13988409
based

>> No.13993974

protagonist is named John Self

>> No.13994014

>>13987530
>In Slaughterhouse Five he just briefly appears shitting his guts out in the prison camp
False. He appears elsewhere.

>> No.13994076

>>13987430
no

>> No.13994399

>>13993412
>tfw Melville was actually self inserting as poor little Sub-Sub

>> No.13994768

>>13987430
I wouldn't get it.

>> No.13994795

>>13987745
Based and Infinite Jest pilled

>> No.13994915

>>13994014
He does? When? I don't remember him showing up anywhere else, but in the prison camp I do distinctly recall that Billy walks by someone in the latrine and the narration stops to say "That was I. That was me. That was the author of this book."
Obviously since the events are so close to what actually happened to Vonnegut in the war, different aspects of himself are in there all over the place, but I don't remember it being brought up explicitly.

>> No.13994946

>>13990270
You'd just have to make it a normal encounter. It doesn't need to be something really remarkable, just the little help you sometimes get from a stranger that, in a critical moment of your life, means a world of difference. Think the black guy who comforts the policeman in "Flows my Tears" by K. Dick.

>>13992519
That, or simply write it as an apparently normal event in a realistic novel.

>> No.13994964

>>13987786
Based Sternefag

>>13987415
>author self-inserts as a cool character that's maybe a bit too cool until he's brutally murdered and doesn't come up ever again

>author self-inserts as a clueless main character on a learning journey

>author self-inserts as a barely relevant genius artist with lots of ridiculous personal quirks so that he is never taken seriously

>> No.13995592

>>13988173
>mfw I've written two whole novels about my female alter ego

I write a girl MC to keep from self-inserting too much even though the character is still an author stand in. What does that make me, /lit/?

>> No.13995602

>>13992030
I feel this happens more than we can ever know.

>> No.13995616
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13995616

Cosmic brain 170 IQ tier
>author inserts a characterized hyperbolic version of himself as the antagonist whose goal is to eradicate all shitskins
>secretly it’s not hyperbolic at all and is how the author actually feels but hipsters lap it up for its “amazing satire”

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>author self inserts as the main character and narrator for the first third of the book only to change narrators and ignore said character aside from one offhanded reference for the rest of the book

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>>13989092
Shut up dude I bet you're just a suicidal wannabe Author because that's what I am, and I'm projecting, you faggot.

>> No.13996373

>>13987415
I’m inserting my autistic friends and acquaitances and some historical (minor and major personalities) as characters in my novels
>>13987745
Overrated

>> No.13996874

>>13993353
that's based OP tier.

>> No.13996908

>>13987745
I don’t know how to not do this. Either I’m too self-absorbed or I might not be very creative.

>> No.13996939

>>13994915
When they arrived at Dresden

>Somebody in the boxcar behind him said "Oz." That was I. That was me. The only other city I'd ever seen was Indianapolis, Indiana.

>> No.13996984

>>13987385
Anyone got the feeling that Terry Pratchet wrote himself as the eternal janitor??

I got no explanation why it be the case it´s just a hinch..

>> No.13997015

>>13987415
Where does Philip K. Dick inserting himself as a pessimistic ephebophile who serves as a foil to the protagonist for most of Radio Free Albemuth come on this list?

>> No.13997321

>>13987782
100% BEE in Lunar Park

But he is a degenerate pseudo-ironic cuck so disregard it.

>> No.13997342

>>13992562
Fucking lorelet. Better correct that shit:
>author inserts both as a minor but well-written character (Faramir) and as the general spirit of an entire people based on his comfy Englishness

>> No.13997678

>>13992147
and sonichu is one of the best visual stories ever written

>> No.13998536

>>13997015
probably somewhere above decent tier because it's funky and Dick can actually do it quite well

>> No.14000040

>>13988307
He says he had a relationship that was a bit like Griffith/guts with one of his which was really good at everything but he didnt want to be out done in art.

In the bad of the hawk he's pippin.

>> No.14000105

>author is completely detached from the world and inserts the person he wants to be as the main character.

>> No.14000123

>>13987415
Based crazyhead tier
>Author self inserts himself as the main villian

>> No.14000189
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>>13988724
What have you read? What have you done to yourself?

>> No.14000201

>>13995592
A closet tranny.

>> No.14000212

>>13988409
based Hollaback

>> No.14001436

>>13997678
>>13992456

>Ugliest webcomic I've ever seen
>An extremely confused and aggressive author
>Primarily written as a reaction to real life imagined slights

How can anyone unironically enjoy Sonichu?