Hegel

[Anonymous No.13962526]

I think I have to catch up with Hegel, where should I start? Dive right into phenomenology of spirit or is there some worthwhile secondary literature?

Maybe "Hegel: A Very Short Introduction" by Singer, did anyone read it?

[Anonymous No.13962556]

[Anonymous No.13962560]

>>13962526
Bumping for interest.

[Anonymous No.13962565]

>>13962526
- Faith and Knowledge
- Philosophy of Nature
- Philosophy of the Mind

Read these beforehand.

- Jean Hyppolite : Genesis and Structure of Hegel's "Phenomenology of Spirit"
- Alexandre Kojéve : Introduction to the Reading of Hegel : Lectures on the Phenomenology of Spirit

Read these as well if you want to understand how he is perceived and interpreted in the 20th/21st century.

[Anonymous No.13962578]

>>13962565
- Phenomenology of Mind
- Science of Logic
- Philosophy of the Right
- On Christianity
- History of Philosophy
- Philosophy of History
- Lectures on Fine Art

Read these after you're done with PoS.

[Anonymous No.13962587]

>>13962578
>Phenomenology of Mind
>after you're done with PoS
well aren't you precious

[Anonymous No.13962592]

start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.13962600]

>>13962587
>implying I didn't mean that you should re-read PoS at least once

[Anonymous No.13962608]

>>13962600
>implying the implication of in fact unimplied implications

[Anonymous No.13962612]

>>13962592
Good recommendation, luckely I already did the greeks so this will save me some time.

>>13962565
alright, thanks

[Anonymous No.13964092]

I find it always strange how in english conversations the Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences is never mentioned. For me personally i must admit that this work is a far better starting and ending point for a confrontation with hegel. The phenomenology is partially hard as a beginning because it was written at a time where hegel didnt yet compete his system, and where he was pressured to a fast publication. You can see this in his german writing style very clearly compared to later works. The Encyclopedia on the other hand, under the condition that you get a commented version, was meant to be read by his students as an overview of his system. Also written in a style as to be understandable for those who havent read anything else by him yet.

[Anonymous No.13965305]

Dialectics are a lie

[Anonymous No.13965792]

>>13962526

Engels recommends here starting with the Shorter Logic, to be read alongside Philosophy of History, and maybe also the Lectures on Aesthetics since its easier to read. Engels also recommends to not obsess too much on the conceptual structure of the text, since what Hegel is attempting is to ground thought from its underlying reason, which is really what matters.

The problem with Hegel’s logical system is that it has the necessary appearance as a priori, when it is really the a posteriori results of the investigation of history. The owl of Minerva flies at dusk, after all; constituting the whole development prior into a fixed reflection. So, contrasting Hegel’s Encyclopedia Logic with the corresponding use of the categories in his Lectures on the Philosophy of History, as Engels recommends, can be useful.

> Since with Hegel every category represents a stage in the history of philosophy (as he generally indicates), you would do well to compare the lectures on the history of philosophy (one of his most brilliant works). As relaxation, I can recommend the Æsthetic. When you have worked yourself into that a bit you will be amazed.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1891/letters/91_11_01.htm

[Anonymous No.13965826]

>>13962526
please don't read hyppolite or kojeve until you actually understand hegel. frederick beiser and terry pinkard are much, much better introductions.

[Anonymous No.13965855]

>>13962565
Don’t stick too closely with secondary material. While those two books by Kojeve and Hypollite are very important, but are no substitute for reading Hegel, and as interpretations of Hegel, should stand independent from your first reading of him. Think of them as books because of Hegel rather than Hegel books, and should as much stand on their own foundations than just as a supplements to Hegel; which would mean taking both them and Hegel more seriously than superficially reading one unto the other. Like I said, is no substitute for reading Hegel himself, than reading Hegel himself.

>>13962578
Avoid overloading yourself like what this guy states. Then you just won’t get to Hegel, because you would be simply overwhelmed. Hegel, contrary to what memers would have you believe, is not the final boss in philosophy.

For any secondary material, all I recommend is the Hegel Dictionary, and only for looking up confusing phraseology and for getting broad summaries of Hegel’s works for a very basic skeleton framework. Only go after the secondary literature after you have a read Hegel first hand.

[Anonymous No.13967534]

>>13962526
bimp