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What do you guys think of this book? Any other books on the subject you would recommend?

>> No.13958461

>>13958347
Dennett is a hack

>> No.13958465

>>13958347
What’s its thesis?

>> No.13958473

>>13958347
i read this in highschool but forgot its content. All i can remember is being in this awful shrooms trip where a bunch of people showed up at my house unexpectedly while i was already high, sitting on my couch absolutely terrified staring at this book sitting on my coffee table

>> No.13958475

>>13958347
Read Metzinger instead.

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>>13958347
I've been reading the case against reality which is on the subject of consciousness and objective reality by Donald Hoffman and I'd definitely recommend it.

>> No.13958925

>>13958461
How can you be a hack if you're right about both consciousness and free will? Not many with such a track record.

>> No.13958978

>>13958925
>right about consciousness
Last I check no one knows how to solve the Hard problem of Consciousness

>> No.13958991

>>13958347
>What do you guys think of this book?
nobody on post 2016 /lit/ reads books

>Any other books on the subject you would recommend?
lol. LRN2GOOGLE YOU FUCKING VILLAGER

>> No.13959071

>>13958347
I know a great deal about Daniel Dennett's work, but I've only encounted secondary literature on the book.

A central idea is this concept of the multiple drafts, in which there is no stable conscious identity but a semi-stable pattern constantly being juggled in memory. We are very different than when we were children, because we are n many drafts away from that draft.

Arguing against the existence of qualia however is a bit farfetched, and I think Chalmers has throughly debunked that claim. Individual qualia may not exist as definite, persistent, labelable entities, but the whole sensorium certainly exists. We experience a quality, which our brain then parses into the illusion of distinct qualia.
Here I would claim that this is ultimately a trick of grammar and language. Quale is a singular noun, which imprints on the mind an image of a singular entity. Qualia designates a set of such entities. In reality there are no qualia or any given quale, but there is objectively experience.
What that experience means or constitutes is the hard problem of consciousness.

>> No.13959079

I would say both CS Peirce and Ernst Mach outmaneuver Dennett on these phenomenological issues.

>> No.13959125

>>13958347
I too just saw this on contrapoints shelf.