/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13958030]

what is your goal/purpose/meaning/value in life, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.13958037]

none because I wanna be a nihilist like all the cool kids

[Anonymous No.13958043]

Being as extroverted as possible in combination w a level of money that will allow me to make good decisions.

[Anonymous No.13958055]

to shitpost in off topic threads

[Anonymous No.13958075]

Immortality

[Anonymous No.13958084]

i think for me nowadays my goal and purpose and meaning is just to increase my power of acting/capacities to act as much as possible, and see where that goes. life is essentially a never ending apprenticeship where we slowly experiment, figure out what agrees with our nature and what doesn't, and organise our actions and thoughts accordingly. i realise now what i could never have realised when I was younger - this takes time, a lot of time, and a lot of experimenting (which essentially means aimless groping around and suffering). its something which is sort of measurable and you can feel it, it feels good to have mastery of myself + freedom. the man who makes no attempt to organise their passions + actions, who gets thrown around by anything external, these are the weak ones that will suffer. what matters the most is that we STRIVE, not that we reach our end goal, but that we strive as hard as we can. i call that man strong who strives as hard as he can to organise his actions and passions, not the man who has had it given to him on a plate

apart from this, i enjoy the aesthetic aspect of life, even in suffering. a walk in nature makes everything better

[Anonymous No.13958091]

>>13958030
dying of old age

[Anonymous No.13958510]

my goal in life is to find meaning in life - problem is that meaning is always changing and i cant seems to find the balance of it. I often find new things that seems meaningful for the moment. one things for sure is - me, i wanna know myself on a deeper level, seeing my own selfgrowth.

[Anonymous No.13958513]

>>13958030
I want to conquer the world.

[Anonymous No.13958517]

>>13958513
yes, im sure you will be happy then.

[Anonymous No.13958537]

>>13958030
I want to experience art in as many shapes and forms possible; my final wish is to experience as many emotions and stories as I can. In order to obtain that I need peace of mind and soul, and I hope to attain that through self-improvement and humility.

[Anonymous No.13958538]

>>13958517
Happiness?

[Anonymous No.13958667]

A revolution, to bring about a new age and a new man

[Anonymous No.13958690]

>>13958537
People with inspired souls like yourself are the future of this world. You are a glistening diamond of hope in a sea of despair, never forget that! I am crying tears of joy for you right now.
https://vimeo.com/specalblend

[Anonymous No.13958749]

a) to move a nudist community and eventually develop a clothesfree lifestyle

b) to raise my consciousness

c) to study the infinite mysteries of the universe

[Anonymous No.13958759]

>>13958690
You're probably being sarcastic but I'll take the compliment.

[Anonymous No.13958760]

>>13958030
To spread HIV.

[Anonymous No.13960344]

>>13958513
griffith is that you?

[Anonymous No.13960458]

To will something that's true

[Anonymous No.13960475]

I want a cute and submissive loli wife by the time I'm 30

[Anonymous No.13960492]

>>13958030
To love and be loved.

[Anonymous No.13960625]

>>13958030
achieve my true will in life

[Anonymous No.13960630]

purpose is to live and die what you choose to live and die for idk that's your problem man

[Anonymous No.13960695]

>>13960492
Absolutely unequivocally based

Love, writing, my relationship with myself, my family, my friends, and the world

[Anonymous No.13960816]

Exert absolute and tyrranical rule over a large swath of matter, like a few galaxies or sumthn

[Anonymous No.13960818]

dying of young age

[Anonymous No.13960831]

>>13958030
My purpose is to acquire the holy spirit, my goal is to find someone who I love and who will love me.

[Anonymous No.13960848]

>>13958030
Except for spiritual matters, I’m only driven by love for a young girl. In this oversocialized, degenerate techno-dystopia, she’s the only thing that keeps me going with a smile.

[Anonymous No.13960850]

i want to kill everyone

[House of Leaves Guy No.13960856]

>>13958030
All I want to do is write. I've poured all of my will to be alive into my art. Finding this passion has given me the purpose to not give up. I think that's the secret the normies aren't telling us, friends. Find your passion and then disregard everything else.

[Anonymous No.13960863]

>>13960492
Fucking BASED

[Anonymous No.13960890]

>>13958030
Right now, I only find true enjoyment in listening and playing piano. I don't like my job very much. It's taking its toll on my mind and body. Women are bland. I am too sinful to become authentically Christian -- and I am a bit too Nietzschean anyway.

[Anonymous No.13962004]

>>13958030
First option: nihilism. There is no meaning in / of life. It just is. Before you were born, there was no "you", and after you die, there will be no "you" again.
You can, however, invent your own values after realizing the above. People who can achieve this are called übermensch. Read Nietzsche.

The other option is absurdism. There is no meaning in / of life, and you will realize this every moment when you try to find one. But if understand that this is totally normal and see how aburd it is, you will be ok. Read Camus.

Third option: buddhism (philosophical; also zen). Life is suffering. Even good things are temporary, nothing lasts forever. You must understand and accept this, and constantly try to let go all your cravings and attachments. Just be. Accept life at it is, see how everyone suffers no matter what (so you can be empathic towards them), meditate, embrace emptiness. There is no suffering if there is no self.

4th option: stoicism. You can't always change your surroundings. But you can change how you interpret the outside world, how you react to the changes. You can be an emperor or a beggar, life sometimes sucks. Master your emotions, improve your willpower, and whatever happens to you, you'll survive. Don't lose your head, don't panic, just endure. Find harmony even in the middle of chaos.

Just my 2 cents.

[Anonymous No.13962031]

>>13962004
You missed the Ted pill and Taoism. Life and nature is awesome but humans make it shit.

[Anonymous No.13962040]

>>13962031
Yeah, Taoism is basically "go with the flow". Harmony is important, through balance you can achieve wholeness. Do things without overthinking or forcing stuff, aka "do without doing", wei wu wei.

[Anonymous No.13962046]

Beauty

[Anonymous No.13962049]

>>13962040
You don't have to "go with the flow" if it's shit. There's nothing remotely Taoist about the abomination of modernity civilisation.

[Anonymous No.13962062]

I have none. I think I'm going to hang myself soon.

[Anonymous No.13962072]

>>13962062
Hang in there

[Anonymous No.13962088]

>>13962062
Read Ted Kaczynski.

[Anonymous No.13962103]

>>13962062
but how does one cope with the fact that dying is just as meaningless as staying alive?

[Anonymous No.13962109]

>>13958030
Dying of a heart attack

[Anonymous No.13962112]

>>13962049
I know, it was just a response to the other Anon.

>>13962004
>>13962031
One more thing: sometimes I find solace in the idea that I'm just an animal (basically ignore the human / animal distinction). Not in a bad sense, though. It's just a realization that people need food, shelter and sex, just like wolves, squirrels and bears. And if you just live your daily life as an honest, simple (again, in a good sense) creature, you will no longer be anxious about the future.

[Anonymous No.13962125]

>>13962103
It'll be something other than this hellscape.

[Anonymous No.13962140]

>>13962103
>dying is just as meaningless as staying alive
this kills (metaphysically speaking) the nihilistic an heroes

[Anonymous No.13962148]

>>13962103
On the real this really gets the noggin joggin though - isn't it true that people who commit suicide even though the act is meaningless in a sense create their own values in their final act? They decide to refute life, presumably because the joy of life is not worth the suffering or because a meaningless life is not worth living. That in itself is an assertion of meaning however.

[Anonymous No.13962171]

Idk, but definitely not career, money or materialistic things.

[Anonymous No.13962176]

>>13962004
Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist and he never promoted nihilism, in fact he was always against it. You could almost say most of his work was devoted towards overcoming nihilism and adopting master morality instead.

[Anonymous No.13962184]

>>13960344
yes.

[Anonymous No.13962290]

>>13962176
>devoted towards overcoming nihilism and adopting master morality instead.

True. However he was the first who defined nihilism as we know it.

[Anonymous No.13962460]

>>13962004

[Anonymous No.13962518]

i want to share with you all my playlist on youtube. it belongs here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZueG5pzepVb39hOtEnwNYOSomv7rg9If

[Anonymous No.13962591]

>>13962518
also i suggest you watch Andrei Rublev film by ttarkovsky.
>15Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.† 16For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.† 17And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

[Anonymous No.13962619]

>>13958030
A) It's overused, but I want to do the Nietzchean thing and "become who I am"/maximize my potential just to see what happens.
B) Have as many interesting, unique experiences as I can before I die. I'm not sure if this is "meaningful," but it's a fun way to spend my life before death. This naturally involves reading a ton of books.

[Anonymous No.13962633]

I would like to write and illustrate a comic book that has themes that I care for and messages want to convey.

[Anonymous No.13962640]

>>13958030
Man's chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy him forever.

1 Corinthians
>31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

Romans 11
>36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever.

Psalm 73
>25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.
>26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.
>27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.
>28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord God, that I may declare all thy works.

[Anonymous No.13962658]

Been thinking about this after the last few years as a wageslave. I am not well off financially -- I simply don't make that much money, but I'm good with what money I do have and I can buy all sorts of trinkets and things without worry. Sometimes I look around my place after I finish my day job, weightlifting, and other chores and think "is that it?". The rest of the night is spent gaming or browsing 4chan. Sometimes I read a book.

Is that all there is to life? When I go to bed at night I feel so devoid of purpose and meaning. I can really feel it. I am starting to think that without God there is no purpose, meaning or value in life. So I may try to rejoin the church.

[Anonymous No.13962676]

>>13962658
pick your choice

[Anonymous No.13962677]

I want to write something meaningful that will help people. At some point in my life I want to build a homestead in some remote countryside to live the rest of my days in peace.

[Anonymous No.13962683]

>>13962658
There is unbelievable beauty in the world around you. Sunrise light sweeping across the face of a mountain. It's waiting just for you.

[Anonymous No.13962706]

>>13962676
>nothing could ever prove the existence of God.
Lmao what brainlet made this guide?

[Anonymous No.13962724]

>>13962706
it´s true, god doesn´t exist

[Anonymous No.13962729]

>>13962724
Psalm 14
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

[Anonymous No.13962737]

>>13962729
>Dialectical materialism is true!
>See it says it here in Das Kapital!
Absolutely delusional.

[Anonymous No.13962746]

>>13962737
Imbecile.

[Anonymous No.13962758]

>>13962746
Why so assmad? Its only logic.

[Anonymous No.13962781]

>>13958030
Probably to eschew controlling universal ideas imposed on me, have a wife and children and friends to the exclusion of everything else. As in, I will pour my love and effort into these few and not some other mentally degrading and stressful bullshit I've being tricked or shamed or otherwise forced into. Rather, actual connections and life, not satisfying required labour to the state and mass culture.
I'd also like to destroy the world as it is filled with disgusting dishonesty and destructive, vicious and rotten subversion. I'd also like to destabilise nanny-state totalitarianism and gain more freedoms for me to use towards those I am actually bonded to. As participating in those controlling ideas is nearly compulsory at this time.

[Anonymous No.13962823]

>>13960492
>To love and be loved.
>be loved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2awXfumOU

[Anonymous No.13962911]

>>13962640
a sad life you live; following others; never being true to yourself.

[Anonymous No.13962941]

>>13958030
my goal in life is to find a worthy goal for life. I had a few in mind before, but they didn't pan out. some might be worth revisiting, but it's too painful for now.

[Anonymous No.13962950]

>>13958030

The lower part of me wants to do nothing, all day, every day, except indulge in really simple but base pleasures.

The Higher part of me wants to be acceptable in the eyes of God and his son, Jesus Christ, once he returns to the Earth to mete out divine justice.

[Anonymous No.13963031]

To achieve my dream of being a doctor while helping everyone who's with me. Then cure some diseases then die.

[Anonymous No.13963079]

>>13962941
>Be motivated and hardworking
>Fail too many times
>Suppress painful memories of failures
>Become too risk averse
>Too afraid to fail, I don't even try

[Anonymous No.13963284]

>>13962781
>nanny-state totalitarianism
The nanny state is also the only thing keeping private totalitarianism at bay, and even then it's not doing that great a job.

[Anonymous No.13963355]

>>13963031
What to do if you are halfway to becoming a doctor but hate people and despise humanity more with each passing day?

[Anonymous No.13963360]

>>13958084
I can really relate to this. Thanks anon great read

[Anonymous No.13963516]

>>13963355
Not him, but three quarters the way into med school, and I have similar feelings. If anything, it helps performing the job with a sense of irony, that the one blessing granted upon people, to suffer and realise the value of life and struggle, is what we get paid to remove, and get called noble as we allow more suffering to take place.

At the same time, dealing with patients who are truly helpless, and suffering unjustly, is a rewarding experience. You can't help but empathise with kids, old people, psych patients and pregnant women, these people don't lie, they have burdens too big for themselves and having someone rely on you at their weakest is humbling in it's honour

[Anonymous No.13963816]

>>13963516
I think I've always been lacking in empathy, but these last few years the only genuine emotion I felt is schadenfreude. Maybe if every aspect of my life apart from college wouldn't be shitty, I could connect to people easier.
Old people keep reminding me of my own mortality, which unreasonably upsets me.
I can't empathize with woman, because I am 22 and >tfw no gf still. I try not to be bitter and resentful about it, but most of the time I cant help it.
The only ones i can trully pity are the children, since with them you can never be really sure if they would become cunts as adults.
I feel like my life is less eventful version of Journey to the end of the night.
Sorry for the blog post, i am drunk

[Anonymous No.13963979]

>>13963816
Yeah I see you man, I have a hard time putting myself in people's shoes too, I don't think it's a natural thing, we're all selfish by nature. But I guess that's why it's more important than anything to conjure it, let's face it, that's what you would want for someone to do for you more than anything too right?


I may be wrong and I get suffering is relative, but so far the only system I found that works is knowing that what you have is what others would bargain everything for, that you have to be grateful for it and you have to learn to tragedies somebody else's situation a bit more. More often than not, it's true, and it still conjures up only a modicum of the experience they go through.

[Anonymous No.13963988]

>>13963979

There's this person I saw in my psych rotation, who came in and seemed sort of shaken. The doctor talked to her about some routine stuff and walked out for a bit. It was just us students in the room, with her sitting in the chair in front of us. I swear to God, at that moment I didn't see if she was a woman, there was just a sort of repressed terror hiding on her face that seemed almost pressed into it by force, I forgot who I was and just had absolute pity for what was in front of me.


Then she talked and every word quavered and crumbled, every second felt like pain, I couldn't imagine what it would be like to live a life with this. Turns out she was a highly qualified aeronautics graduate who has had treatment resistant anxiety for twenty years. Twenty years. Can you imagine that. What was disturbing for us to witness for ten minutes had been the life she had lived as long as she could remember. That's the thing I noticed about how my ward group interacted with depressed people too, initially they felt a sadness towards their condition, but then as you spend more time, I noticed there was an intrinsic anger and even revulsion towards these patients, for making them witness that such a sense of hopelessness could even exist and that it could come out of nowhere, for no reason. Obviously there's a guilt for feeling that, and a much stronger fear too, that we try to repress. But that is forgetting, and that is choosing not to empathise. And there's no one else to do it but you.

[Anonymous No.13964021]

>>13963988
Anyway, there's this poem by Emily Dickinson that I feel explains it best and made me think about empathy in a different way, hope that speaks to you too.

Pain — has an Element of Blank —
It cannot recollect
When it begun — or if there were
A time when it was not —

It has no Future — but itself —
Its Infinite realms contain
Its Past — enlightened to perceive
New Periods — of Pain.

[Anonymous No.13964397]

>>13963979
>>13963988
>>13964021
Thank you anon, it helped a bit

[Anonymous No.13964809]

>>13958084
get a job

[Anonymous No.13964820]

The purpose of conscious beings is to escape their ego cage. I'm surprised how many introspective type of people don't get it. You needs to realize that everything you are doing is distracting yourself from awakening.

[Anonymous No.13965358]

>>13958030
To have fun

[Anonymous No.13966357]

>>13963355
Ironically, I do hate people. I had a heart disease my whole life and being a doctor is my way of payment to God and every people who made my life so easy despite my condition

[Anonymous No.13966359]

>>13965358
Same

[Anonymous No.13966364]

>>13958667
I'm with you

[Anonymous No.13966395]

>>13964820
you awaken and then what?

[Anonymous No.13966428]

I dont have one.

[emonationalist !!HxQhKkNYVzK No.13966435]

The meaning of all life is expansion through time and space, i.e reproduction and imperialism, but I realized this after getting caught up in things that are extraneous at best and contradictory at worst to these basic goals, and my race has been steered off this course with (((Jedi))) mind tricks. The methods of escaping a life I thought was meaningless now seem meaningless and even malignant themselves, but I am nonetheless attached to them and habitual, and the honest life of Aryan piracy is absent or hidden in the modern world. I have plans to transform at least one of these pastimes into something that serves expansion, but I have many less exciting things to do first.

[Anonymous No.13966475]

To draw, it used to be playing bass but I've moved to drawing now.

[Anonymous No.13966482]

>>13966395
I always assumed you do nothing, these metaphysical topics are far from what I think about anyways, if all this ego loss stuff is supposed to happen to everyone I'll wait to delve deep into it when it's out of my control. Which of course is even assuming this shit exists and isn't a result of humans wanting an answer.

[Anonymous No.13966494]

>>13958030
To write.