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Is he in hell?

>> No.13955851
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>2019
>"Hell"

>> No.13955854

>>13955848
His last though while lucid was "Forgive me, God".

>> No.13955864

>>13955851
>500000000 aD
>"Hell"
Truth doesn't expire.

>> No.13955870

>>13955864
>our daddy who is good and loving will send you to literal eternal torment beyond imagination if you don’t accept his “gift” wherein he sacrificed himself for the sins he made you commit
>truth

>> No.13955875

>>13955848
That is for us to decide

>> No.13955887

>>13955870
t. Facebook tier atheist

>> No.13955902

>>13955887
t. Became a Christian in 2017 because he wanted to be part of some sort of counterculture

>> No.13955903

>>13955887
I can't help but notice that you didn't address his points.

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>>13955864
>Truth
It was not even a real place ti behind with

>> No.13955912

>>13955848
probably

>> No.13955914

>>13955903
>points
Literally some “skydaddy” interpretation of god, and that’s a point? Twitter tier

>> No.13955925

>>13955914
Maybe stop calling god father if you don't want people to call it sky daddy, still didn't address his point btw

>> No.13955972

>>13955902
its the hegelian dialectic my friend

>> No.13955980

>>13955972
Hegel is singularly responsible for every death in the last 200 years, we should bury Hegelians alive

>> No.13956050

>>13955848
We all are.

>> No.13956067

>>13955848
He's returning. Passing through an infinite series of different identities.

>> No.13956089
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>>13955848
Which hell is he in?

>> No.13956093

>>13955914
It literally doesn't matter what god's nature is to his argument

>> No.13956129

>>13956089
t. hasn't read Pensées, where Pascal explains why you should pick Christianity over all those other religions

Don't you ever think how cringe it is that you frequent a literature forum while arguing against philosophers you've never even read, based on a 12 year-old's second-hand summary of a 400 page book?

>> No.13956146

>>13955848
It's always prideful to pretend or know the judgement of people, but yes, I think he is.

>> No.13957011

>>13956129
>why you should pick Christianity over all those other religions
Explain why then

>> No.13957170

>>13956129
>Pascal explains why you should pick Christianity over all those other religions
And his explanationis flawed because ENKI is the true master of humanity.

>> No.13957757

>>13955848
probably tylo be chillin

>> No.13959395

>>13956089
Literally 90% of these religions don't preach everyone else goes to hell

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>>13959395
Even if that's true, the probability of Christian hell being real is only a tiny fraction of the space of all possibilities that result in being sent to hell. The probability of being sent to hell by something like a rogue AI, for instance, is probably a lot higher than being sent to hell by Yahweh.

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>>13955848

>> No.13960496

>>13955914
>>13955902
>>13955887
>>13955870
>>13956093

>humans are meant to understand the totality of God’s decisions through their narrow morality, especially something as complex as eternal damnation
>implying what we understand about God isn’t simply what he reveals to us about His nature, and that the fullness of it is so incomprehensible yet necessarily perfect that to argue against His manner is metaphysically absurd

Inb4 they always say “well we can’t understand all of God when they don’t wanna answer a question about Him being mean!” Because it’s literally true, we can’t comprehend it so there’s no point in trying. Through faith we know His beauty and that it’s good for us, what more do we need?

>> No.13960505

>>13955851
>2019
>chinese cartoons
kys weebshit

>> No.13960511

>>13955870
>he made you commit
Hmm

>> No.13960519

>>13956089
>Taoism
>reincarnation
Yep, this chart is retarded

>> No.13961028

>>13956089
We need a new chart judging the veracity of each view from the perspective of each other view. From this we can discover which is the most compelling view across all views. For example from the perspective of Christianity atheism would be a 0%, but Catholicism might receive a 60%.
From this model we could do depth-first search where each new layer includes as an a option all possible variations of synthesis of the previous layers most optimistic views. If a synthesis is not possible it would be treated as a dead-end, unless a new view is reached that unlocks a method of synthesizing those views, thereby unlocking that path to continue searching.
In a way this is what humans are already doing, but perhaps we could further optimize the algorithm using chart-autism.

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>religious afterlife
>its based on some bivalent dichotomy
Classical logic was a mistake.

>> No.13961133

>>13961045
Based dipolar theist

>> No.13961145
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>>13960496
Absurdity is a virtue. Any unordered system, or a system that can only be observed in the negative through superficialities transcends the infinite all encompassing nature of God. Both in different ways, yet neither less complete.

God's plan is born out of fear from the howls of the surreal non-things. They have already ripped a hole in the ontological barrier, and God has already been shattered, screaming, and flushed down the drain into nothingness. It has happened, it will happen, it won't happen, the time has passed and will never come. The clowns walked up God's mountain, slipped through the cracks in the door. The lamb and the archangels, satan and lucifer, holy and unholy weeped together. God's plan to hide from the profane was never to be and always was.

Reality is the least real thing, and it's through animated systems that we act as pins through the frabric, forming individual mobius strips of consciousness that pass through one another. The other is not real to us, just as we are not real to them. God may destroy creation, but creation ticks on. In doing so God has only locked itself out and from its omniscient perspective understands reality to be destroyed. Reality is destroyed, but it's not. The barrier is unordered, and self-contradicting. Monotheism is naïve monolatrism, a failure to understand the non-linear, intransitive strange loop of divinity. In all spaces but God's, everything is nothing. Here, a surreal slice of nothing is everything. There is no name, there is no identity. To speak of anything as an entity would be a misrepresentation, but at the same time, not. Only in the infinitesimally simplistic conceptions of our most advanced formal grammars and cutting edge logics can we even begin to conceive of such nothings.

In full grasp of hypercomplex-inspired metaphysics, the theological philosopher has no more arguments. What can possibly be said about what hides behind the veil, when we may only pat out the silhouette of the impossible?

>> No.13961149

>>13955854
And how dId God respond?

>> No.13961257

>>13961145
Absolutely based

>> No.13961284

>>13956129
Aren't you ashamed of displaying such blantant case of appeal to authority?

>> No.13961345

>>13959395
>>13960519
These atheists don't even have a flimsy grasp of the religion of their own land/culture/ancestors/neighbors.
What makes you think they could have any semi-decent conception of something more foreign?

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>>13955848
Hell is a spook

>> No.13961997

>>13955848
There is no hell but the one of your own making

>> No.13962009

I have a dream that someday jannies will actually do shit around here and purge all this shit, so we can have a board to talk about actual literature again

>> No.13962172

>>13960496
What if the creator fundamentally doesn't understand the creation?

>> No.13962233

>Nietzsche blows christcucks the fuck out
>Eventually dies like every human, leaving behind his brilliant philosophy for all of us to enjoy
>"HAHAHA LOOOL he died. Did you hear me? He DIED, HAHA! He is probably in HELL, BASED GOD KILLED NIETZSCHE!"

>> No.13962249

>>13955848
No I don't think so. The way we read and interpret Nietzsche is much different from the life he lived. He suffered greatly, but he was able to bear his suffering, and we know he was a very moral and compassionate character. He also came very close to spiritual salvation.

>> No.13962431

>>13956067
/thread

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>>13961145

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>>13955864
>he thinks Sophia approves of this crap

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>>13960511
Sin laundering is a myth

>> No.13962853

As someone who does believe in Hell.
No, just thrown back into Samsara

>> No.13962861

>>13961149
Im dead

>> No.13962863

>>13956129
Theology is never going to be philosophy proper. I have no reason to read any of those knuckleheads

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>>13960336
Yahweh IS a rogue AI tho

>> No.13962892

>>13956129
Shut the fuck up Pascalfag! Nobody is taking you up on the pedovan of christianity.

>> No.13962904

>>13960496
Why have we ruled out the possibility that maybe God is only the creator of this reality and is in fact a major dick?

>> No.13962912

>>13962904
Because it goes against all transcendent knowledge discovered in all societies and cultures.
It’s the ramblings of a man modern westerner who never practiced spirituality once in his life and wants something to yell at

>> No.13962914

>>13961145
It seems the schizo wokakposter has returned. Based

>> No.13962917

I thank God everyday I wasn’t been a scared withering abrahamic.

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>>13962233
This. Internet Christians act no different to the atheists of the early half of the decade

>> No.13962930

>>13962912
Not at all. Gnostics have existed for centuries

>> No.13962944

>>13962930
But the demiurge is not God.
All ancient traditions have a being empowered by the ultimate God who create material existence. It’s just CERTAIN sects of Gnosticism that say this must be because of evil (that inherently angry /x/ users latched onto)

>> No.13963812

>>13955848
He was, and he will be again.

>> No.13965134

Not anymore

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>>13955848
No. You are

>> No.13965331

>>13961284
>correcting an ignorant, decontextualized view is an appeal to authority
uhhh

>> No.13965340

>>13957011
>what is reading a book

>> No.13965351

>>13956089
Most cultures have a flood story. Must mean they're all wrong