/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13952529]

Is Christianity THE complete, perfect system? I don't see how you could ever need anything else.

[Anonymous No.13952537]

/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/.

[Anonymous No.13952548]

>>13952529
>Christianity is THE complete, perfect syst-

[Anonymous No.13952552]

>>13952529
Yep, the complete, perfect system for total sissy faggots I suppose.

[Anonymous No.13952560]

>>13952529
It needs improvement.

[Anonymous No.13952565]

>>13952548
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[Anonymous No.13952574]

>>13952537

Tbf Jesus is holding a book in the OP image.

[Anonymous No.13952603]

>>13952529
Yes.
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[Anonymous No.13952612]

The idea of an all-powerful God allowing evil to run rampant

The idea that God is everything, but also 'love', and of course not evil.

How does Christianity solve his without nomative claims and reptition that God is Good because he is Good?

[Anonymous No.13952732]

>>13952612
evil does't exist

[Anonymous No.13952754]

>>13952732
continuing because I was lazy sorry.
Everything is good because God in His Goodness created everything. What happens is the absence of God because we, humans, have free will, this give us the choice to accept or not God. God bless you.

[Anonymous No.13952793]

>>13952548
>>13952565
The issue here is that if we say atman = Brahman and is simply separated form illusion you are admitting that Brahman is then imperfect and capable of coming under illusion.
Yes Brahman is the fundamental truth of all reality, and atman emanates from Brahman but they are not identical. Brahman is the fundamental God that all atman comes from but he is not created of attman but something higher than it that would never be able to fall under illusion.
This is why adviata vendata has been considered philosophically defeated by many dharmaic scholars.

[Anonymous No.13952833]

>>13952612
To be fair, he did do a trial run where there was no evil and everything was perfect, and even put in a way to make everything complete shit in case humanity wanted that. Humans, in their infinite wisdom, decided to fuck their shit up for eternity.

Also, I don't hear Christians saying that God is everything. That's more of a pagan sort of nature/universe worship thing.

[Anonymous !!/QsAFMQcgjT No.13952875]

>>13952529
Christianity is a system, not thee. Though we may try, I believe no one can understand the Father. Other religions are merely attempts too.

Personally, I admit the divinity of Christ, that's why I'm a Christian. But It's not my place to judge those who are not.

By the way, this board should be focused on literature.

[Anonymous No.13952912]

>>13952529

Maybe. Haven't even once seen the testament of Andrew although he was supposed to teach my grand ancestors... instead i get fed with a Kyrill and Methodius story that is so implausible (the kieven rus, a kingdom that btfo'd the whole Eurasian continent, byzantia included, somehow had no written word and were 900 (that's like 20 generations of male rule) late to understanding Christ, although they raided Constantinople and tranny monasteries hundreds of times.

Also, what about the 7 secret teaching - where can I Google them? Oh, they don't exist? Nice perfect system.

[Anonymous No.13952946]

Yes Bhakti yoga will always be the greatest method for knowing the divine.
(Worship of the godhead and his many avatars)

[Anonymous No.13952962]

>>13952875
>The Bible isn't literature

[Anonymous No.13952970]

>>13952962
That wasn't OP's subject, was it anon?

[Anonymous No.13952977]

>>13952793
In my own interpretation, which should not be considered to represent Advaita Vedanta or Shankara, the answer is as follows:

Consciousness, absent of any distinction, is Ultimate Reality. If there was only Ultimate Reality, there'd never be any perception of differentiation, and no illusion could thereby exist in the first place. The only reason that a perception of not-being-the-ultimate-reality can even exist at all is because:

a) There is a "spectrum" of Consciousness, from the highest (absolute, most fundamental) to the lowest (superficial, shallowest).

This spectrum corresponds to the body, emotions, mind, and beyond, all the way up until that Ultimate Consciousness. The body is the lowest form of consciousness, hence why it feels the most difficult to live under, and why every spiritual culture on the planet advises one to temper and master it's urges in order to see higher spiritual realities. The emotions, mind and whatever other shades of consciousness follow similarly, in that they are each of a subtler matter and correspondingly feel more and more uplifting to the subject, being closer to the individual's truest nature. All dimensions of consciousness are always there - but our region of attention (the region which the subject identifies as "themselves") can only inhabit one place at once, and this region depends on the level of spiritual advancement the corresponding individual lives on (or whether they took psychedelics just earlier).

b) The presence of the mind, and it's ability to produce it's own appearance of reality, through it's beliefs. We always think we are seeing Reality, when really we are only seeing OUR reality, namely, the contents within our consciousnesses. Anything you think about, instantly appears as true within your being. If you think of yourself as "sinful", it appears so. If you think of yourself as "a human", it appears so. If you think there exists such a thing as "life", and of it being "miserable", it appears so. If you think of yourself as an "I" or "Me" or "Self", it appears so. Yet none of these are necessarily true - they are merely thoughts within consciousness.

As a result of the consciousness-spectrum and of the mind's presence, Consciousness, which always contains everything, and which always sees itself by nature, must now navigate through both it's own gradient of awareness, and through it's mental belief-matrix.

Consciousness itself cannot be fooled. It is Knowing, by nature. It's merely the above spectrum, combined by the mind's fabricated beliefs, which allow there to be an appearance of illusion, separation, etc at all. In other words, your mind-consciousness presently has a belief-matrix in which "I am not Brahman, I am merely a tiny mortal person, Brahman is outside of me", but consciousness itself merely sees those propositions within it's own sphere as it sees anything else - it is not itself believing said view, nor could it ever. It is Knowing itself, as said.

[Anonymous No.13952991]

>>13952970
Not directly. it was Christianity, particularly as a system. But what is the core work that describes the system of Christianity, that happens to be the most famous piece of literature ever written? It has everything to do with literature, because the discussion inevitably relies on it.

[Anonymous No.13953395]

>>13952548
Please recommend me materials so I can learn more about it, to know how to argue against or possibly be swayed by it. You never know. I can't have an opinion as it's the first time I come across this

[Anonymous No.13953419]

>>13953395
It's just Christianity with a different paint job. If you don't like the paint, that's good enough reason to ignore it.

[Anonymous No.13953561]

>>13952875
>By the way, this board should be focused on literature.
Christianity relies on the Bible, and I'm not even a Sola Scripturist

[Anonymous No.13953587]

Catholicism specifically since Christianity isn’t perfect without the Church, but yeah.

[Anonymous No.13953757]

>>13952529
https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-48.htm

>Matthew 5:48
>Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

>John 14:6
>Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Yes OP.

[Anonymous No.13953765]

Judaism seems to work out pretty well for its members

[Anonymous No.13953782]

a system that reduces your maximum potential, to convey that you have met your now current potential is a neat trick.