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13921664 No.13921664 [Reply] [Original]

I want to improve my non-existing social skills but I don't want to go outside.
Give me some good books.

>> No.13921699
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>> No.13921710

>>13921664
It's Impossible To Learn To Plow By Reading Books

>> No.13921717

>>13921710
Sounds good, who wrote it?

>> No.13921722

how to make friends and influence people and 48 laws of power, so you get two sides of the spectrum

>> No.13921733

>>13921722
Imagine unironically recommending trash Self Help books on /lit/

Peak bugman boomerism

>> No.13921738

>>13921733
so do I start with the greeks?

>> No.13921753

>>13921664
I hope those marks on her knees are coming from...

>> No.13921757

>>13921664
why do you have that image saved? what is the appeal? its a very average looking girl looking sad on a train, wheres the appeal?

>> No.13921765

>>13921738
The Greeks including Presocratics, greek and roman poets, medieval epic poetry, entire scholasticism, proto-naturalism, post-Spinozian philosophy of self, empiricism including entire ouevre of Sniadecki and Cabanis, Stirner, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Deleuze, Zyzz: The Biography of Overman, Fanged Noumena, and Harry Potter.

>> No.13921766

>>13921757
because it sends a powerful emotion
what's so wrong about being average?

>> No.13921768

>>13921757
She just looks bored to me.

>> No.13921778

>>13921766
so its not sexually motived?

>> No.13921783

>>13921757
Look at the marks on her knees

She's taking the subway back home after a long night of sucking dick

>> No.13921794

>>13921783
and thats nice?

>> No.13921796

>>13921783
pic is not about the dick, it's about the desire to be loved back

>> No.13921805

>>13921757
the marks on her knees make you think that she was sucking dick
what makes this pic even more powerful is that its a sad looking girl, all alone in the subway. her outfit also shows that she was either on a date or at a party that day.

if you add all things together, you'd get the story of a girl being used by chad for sex and then getting sent home

>> No.13921810

>>13921757
>>13921766
>>13921766
Yes it's the sort of girl that repeatedly looks at me until I meet her eyes and then we reach her but not my station. This happens quite often as I ride the train on a daily basis. Little do they know I will only hold eye contact with the qt late 20s to late 30s single office ladies as they have the truly sombre and lovecraving eyes.

>> No.13921811

For sale: one girl, barely used.

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>>13921794
who said anything being nice was a prerequisite for it being posted? If anything I disagree with the other posters, to me it invokes feelings of sadness. This girl was probably really excited about moving to a big city and finally having some independance. But city life isn't all glitz and glamor. She isn't fitting in as well as she wanted in school. She can't manage to hold a boyfriend down who doesn't just want to pump and dump her. Her grades are starting to slip. Her parents probably cut her off for going to some libbie arts school. She has to find ways to pay her way through living in NY now, ways that involve knee bruises and lonely 3am train rides back home. She's probably already feeling some serious self-loathing, and then some dickhead takes a picture of her blowjob knees. She probably wishes she was dead in that moment.

>> No.13921817

>>13921816
Speaking from personal experience?

>> No.13921818

>>13921816
>>13921811
>>13921810
>>13921805
>>13921796
y'all fags gonna recommend some books or are we going to keep talking about sucking dick and wanting to be loved?

>> No.13921828

>>13921811
>barely
ohohohoho Anon

>> No.13921829

>>13921818
you cant improve your social skills through a fucking book your retard, you just have to practice

>> No.13921831

>see bruised knees
>immediately think 'yep, she sucked dick'
Stop watching porn.

>> No.13921841

>>13921831
what else would it be? look at her outfit, she went out that night and we all know what happens on a night out to an average looking girl. if she bruised her knees beforehand, she'd wear some dark pantyhose to cover up. no, no, this clearly happened during the event.

>> No.13921844

>>13921831

have sex

>> No.13921846

>>13921831
dilate

>> No.13921856
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>>13921753
...working in the kitchen all day scrubbing the floor?

>> No.13921858
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>>13921817
Hey I found my independence my own way, I won't be made ashamed for that

>>13921818
The only book like that I've read is How to Make Friends and Influence People, and based on that I feel like I can dismiss that entire genre of books. I really think the best thing you can do is just start talking to people. If you don't want to go outside then it's a lost cause bud, but I question whether you really wanted to improve your social skills at all with such contradictory wants. Maybe you're just looking for books with very sociable characters?

>> No.13921880

>>13921841
t. cumbrain

>> No.13921910

>>13921844
>>13921846
Like clockwork

>> No.13921918

>>13921810
Based. For me it's shunning attractive teens and smiling at the plain ones to give them a sense of validation.
I'm a charitable man.

>> No.13921932

>>13921918
when I grow up I want to be like you

>> No.13921953

>>13921841
>>13921844
>>13921846
Sucking cock is on your mind all the time, huh? It's OK, there's no site rule against homosexuality.

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>>13921753
practicing yoga?

>> No.13922039

The fine art of small talk is a good one.
I’m still mulling over attending toastmasters, but a part of me just knows that’s too weird for someone so young. I’d have to keep it a secret if I did though.

>> No.13922043

Books are useful and all, but you will never improve without exposure. Social skills are all about exposure and practice.

>> No.13922063

>>13922043
> Social skills are all about exposure and practice
If an autist and a normie can build social skills why is autism a segregated issue in the first place?

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>>13921664
Sorry, but the only way to improve your social skills is to go outside and make lots of mistakes and LEARN from them. Wisdom comes from experience, experience comes from behaving foolishly...

>> No.13922091

>>13922063
Autists usually can't intuitively build social skills and need directed help, but a normie with a normie upbringing will pick most things up on his own. Even socially adjusted autistic people will usually be doing it out of a place of awareness for their own or other people's behavior, rather than just sort of 'being' in it.

>> No.13922110

>>13921805
holy fuck that's some powerful stuff

>> No.13922134

>>13921818
>y'all fags gonna recommend some books or are we going to keep talking about sucking dick and wanting to be loved?

/lit/ - Literature

>> No.13922136

>>13921664
Just lie to everyone.

>> No.13922141

>>13921664
>why does Chad only call me when he needs a blowie :(
>maybe i should just let him pump me without a condom like he always says, surely that will make him like me enough so we become official :D
>i should just make a tweet and some fb post about how much i hate ugly and short men that always cheers me up :<

>> No.13922143

>>13921664
Obviously how to win friends and influence people. Don't let the cringe title intimidate you

>> No.13922207

>>13921664
Improve Your Social Skills is good buy Social Skills Guidebook is much more comprehensive

>> No.13922250

>>13921664
I’ll save you the trouble of reading Dale Carnegie:
Ask people questions about themselves and pretend to be interested.
>Oh, where do you work? What do you do there? What does your average day look like? How do you feel about that? What do you think?

>> No.13922575

That pic gave me depression

>> No.13922649

>>13922091
Idk if I'm autistic or my parents failed and I'm like this because I had a shit upbringing

>> No.13922688

This pic gives you all the justification you need to why "getting social skills" is a fucking meme. Girls will just continue to get BTFO by Chad and the only way youre gonna move up the ladder at work is through preestablished connections, not being a pick up artist. Youre social skills aren't the problem OP, this brutal world is.

>> No.13922734

>>13921753
...praying?

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>>13921722
>spectrum
accurate

>> No.13922900

>>13921810
I actually wrote a short story about this

>> No.13922910

>>13922688
Yet the dude who made a video on "being ugly" has a gf. Maybe you just need to meet someone who's compatible.

>> No.13923041

>>13921664
I want to know who took this photo and why

>> No.13923048

I'm not looking to fuck, frens. I just finished reading my last book and I was looking for a good book about social skills and stuff, but mostly social skills.
maybe you horny chads need a break because 5 post of the 40 talk about books and the rest about sucking dicks and prayers.

>> No.13923053

>>13922039
The fine art of small talk is horrible. It's loaded with pre-made questions to ask around like "Describe a typical day in your work". If someone came up to you at a party and ask you that you'd definitely be weirded out

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>>13921733
>self help bad

>> No.13923207

>>13921664
You’re a fucking idiot

>> No.13923871

>>13921664
>sitting alone reading books to become more social
huh? no wonder tony robbins, peterson, and all the other snake oil salesmen are making a killing off you idiots. here i'll save all your time and money: stop being a fucking pussy, go outside, and interact with people.

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>>13921664
https://www.succeedsocially.com/

>> No.13924013

>>13921829
practice what? and how? and what you should know? that's what books are for - to guide you.

>> No.13924043

>>13921664
That pic is depressing

>> No.13924064

>>13921664
That pic is hot af

>> No.13924076

>>13921664
Euthyphro and The Apology.

>> No.13924239

Sucking in a squat pose is hotter than on the knees anyway, I don't know why womyn bother giving themselves the knee pain

>> No.13924261

>>13924013
It's impossible to learn social skills if you don't learn them naturally growing up, just give up and get used to being alone.

>> No.13924276

Hey guys, sorry to ask this kind of thing in this thread, but can someone help me get an old book for download? Couldn't find it online at all, tried all the ways I know. I really need this one: Lasswell 1971 A pre-view to policy sciences.

I apologise if I'm not allowed to ask for this kind of thing in this board. Please forgive me if I'm in the wrong here. And thanks to anyone who could help or clarify my mind!

>> No.13924320

>>13921710
Isn’t this Linklater’s first film?

>> No.13924346

>>13921664
Look at this dood.
Oh, no no no.
Look at her knees.
Bwhahahah

>> No.13924361

>>13921753
being a woman?

>> No.13924368

>>13921664
You can't teach something that is ultimately rooted in genetics. People don't get to choose their behavior, their personality or how they converse and deal with other people. The only thing you achieve is faking skills you were never meant to have in the first place because you're most probably dealing with the kind of people that don't match your own psychology in the first place.

>> No.13924414

>>13921717
he just told you, Reading Books

>> No.13924448

>>13921753

...getting fucked on all fours.

There, I said it.

>> No.13924484

>>13921664
Don't be a pussy and get a sales job. Action > books

>> No.13924530

where can i go to meet people who would be impressed by someone as faggy as myself?

not faggy in a gay way, faggy in a pale book guy who listens to crybaby music way

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Girls on train thread?

>> No.13924609

>>13921932
Be mildly attractive while maintaining a upbeat and energetic attitude to avoid looking socially challenged though, that always goes a long way

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>>13924448
why do I want a girl who has been hurt? I want to help someone and I want to be hurt. Why am I like this?

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>>13924537

>> No.13925076

>>13921765
RIP Zyzz

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>>13921753
>>13921783
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>>13921796
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>>13921880
>>13921841
>>13921953
>>13921957
>>13922110
>>13922894
>>13922910
>>13923207
>>13924043
>>13924064
>>13924448
>>13924484
>>13924609
>>13924986

>> No.13925114

>>13925080
Answer my query

>> No.13925137

Step 1: “social skills”. essentially the art of small talk, modern etiquette, and navigating social spaces. easiest to pick up, actually the least impactful, but also the most alienating if you fuck up. thankfully anybody can learn them.
Step 2: “body language”. make your gestures match your words. now you can create atmosphere. if you are particularly diligent, you will also get a sense of how other people see you, leading to the next insight:
Step 3: “theory of mind” knowing about what other people want and care about, whether it is about anything in particular, general trends, or the emotions underlying them. this is when you start to practice high levels of personal agency.
Step 4: “self-actualization” to avoid merging with the crowd and hating your life. you can explore other people and “handle” them all you like, but if you can’t even handle yourself or project your best self, then you will always be either stunted or secretly bitter in social settings, depending on how capable you are at living a lie in the moment. your “best hits” will come from here.

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>>13921664

>> No.13925165

>>13925152
The pain is real.

>> No.13925192

>>13924276
If not bait this post hurts me in so many ways

>> No.13925262

>>13921664
This photo makes me want to cry

>> No.13925374

unironic answer, get ready to start reading

Game by Roosh V
No more mr. nice guy
When I say no I feel guilty
Redpill sidebar and handbook, ask redpill sidebar
If you have anxiety/depression read David Burns

Start lifting, buy a new wardrobe, start saving a lot of cash now. Look into minimalism, begin to break any addictions, look into personal hygiene basics. Start hanging out in public places, begin to develop some sort of interest in books/art/film. look into looksmaxxing, get rid of all 'cringe' in your life. 12 rules and Models by Manson is worth a read. Get ready to change jobs or move if shit really sucks. Look into learning a language, fix your sleep habits, look into nofap, begin exploring religious/spiritual topics. Address any mental health illnesses asap, therapy may be necessary.

Lots to work with here, pick something to start and get after it

>> No.13925391

>>13921664
How to win friends and influence people

>> No.13925443
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>>13925262
If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes seem to pass me by
And leave me dancing with myself.

>> No.13925654

>>13921664
Two textbooks: 1. Human Relations by Dalton et al., 2. Looking In/Looking Out by Adler/Proctor

>> No.13925664

>>13923199
Self-help literature is literally a single idea spread through 300 pages full of pop culture references. Read textbooks on the subjecf instead, you'll find said idea and many more—without the retardese packaging.

>> No.13925688

>>13925080
You literally took a print screen of your own comment to make yourself look like you knew it all, when in reality you get knees like this from sucking dick, not by being fucked doggy. So good job on documenting how little you know.

>> No.13925699

>>13925688
1. that was not my comment
2. it was literally just a screenshot, my computer kinda glitched so that the comment was superimposed over the pic when i enlarged it, i thought it looked funny so i took a screenshot
3. stfu retard

>> No.13925714

>>13925699
Still, your virgin is showing.

>> No.13926083

>>13924320
Right.

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>>13921722
>how to make friends and influence people
That book is pretty much the only reason why I lost my virginity (that and getting a bit fit). I know it is just basic people skills, but I was able to go from socially retarded to passably OK.

>> No.13926209

>>13921664
Try reading any book lmao

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>> No.13926277

>>13925664
Give me some examples then, mr.Einstein.

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>>13926246
Why you posting guys on trains?

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>>13926246

>> No.13926501

>>13926305

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>>13926246
>>13926305

>> No.13926666

>>13926246
Meet me at McDonald's!

>> No.13927253

>>13925374
Did this actually work for you or are you just larping?

>> No.13927283

>>13926206
>How to be a preening doormat
more like

>> No.13927420

>>13924368
This

>> No.13927462

>>13926206
All this sounds extremely Asian.

>> No.13927486

>>13927283
>Charles Manson used what he learned from the book in prison to manipulate women into killing on his behalf.

>> No.13927525

>>13924261
>>13924368
>>13927420
stop being cancer

>>13924484
action + books >>>> action without books

>> No.13927707

>>13924368
Based essentialist. 100% agree. You are what you are.

>> No.13928091

>>13927462
Why? Did Confucius write a guide or something?

>> No.13928119

>>13927707
> buhhh i cant ever change

buer

>> No.13928204

>>13927253
yes it did. no joke I went from fat, mental problems, no skills, couldn't talk to girls in freshman year of high school to feeling better, happier, with more social connections and fewer problems (even with more workload) by senior year of college. I am an unironic self help success story, granted its taken many steps of going forward and then back, but i did exactly what i recommend there: start small and grind to be a bit better every day. The book that helped me the most in this regard was Psycho Cybernetics and Feeling Good by Burns. theredpill sidebar/handbook gave me the practical tools. also I've lurked on roosh v forum for ages and I've learned a lot about everything there as well.

>> No.13928342

>>13928204
Should I learn how to drive a forklift?

>> No.13928559

>>13928342
what do you mean

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>> No.13930070

>>13927462
That's how civilized people talk, you barbaric eternal anglo

>> No.13930100

>>13924537
No thanks.

>> No.13930115

>>13928119
It's true. Nobody ever changes of their own will. All change is imposed externally.

>> No.13930125

>>13925664
Dale Carnegie has like 20 different ideas, each one explained with quotations of history, religion and personal experience. IT is not deep, but it is useful.

>> No.13930910

>>13921818
>>13922134
someone screencap and enter it into the banner contest

im too lazy

>> No.13930925

>>13925152
Kek. Someone should make an updated version of that book. It is kinda dated.

>> No.13931857

>>13921664
>knees

>> No.13931868

>>13921753
Sukin' FAT DICK

>> No.13932734

>>13925374
Wack books but great tips

>> No.13932737

>>13921664
>red marks on her knees
L E L

>> No.13932743

>>13927253
It works, got into my dream program and got a gf, social skills sky rocketed, lost weight etc
Keep in mind i started with acid/mdma but you can get motivation drug free

>> No.13933077

>>13921664
>without going outside

HAAHAHAHAHA

>> No.13933094

>>13933077
no, but for real, you're NEVER gonna improve your social skills by sitting in your room. It's just not gonna happen, trust me. Read about other people's experiences all you want, you still have to work with your own mind while you're out there. So just go out, see what works and doesn't work, and adjust your behavior bit by bit. It's the only way, seriously, that's the only worthwhile hint I can give you after years of trying to figure it out. I'm still trying to this day, but I've come quite a long way.
And just remember that everyone has to try hard, every single day. There isn't a baseline identity you can just snap into, you have to work at creating and upholding one. It's hard work, but that's probably not what you wanna hear.

>> No.13933119

Also, I feel so many people on this site are stuck in the first phase of the Dunning-Kruger curve. They understand so little about the world, that they can't even realize how little they actually know. They still feel entitled to attention and praise, without ever having put in the effort to deserve it.
Expand the little bubble you're stuck in bit by bit, and soon you'll realize what an arrogant little shit you were all those years, become humble, empathize with others more and become more likeable. All speaking from personal experience here.

>> No.13933140

>>13933077
/Thread

>> No.13933144

>>13933119
Based and learnt the hard way pilled, absolute respect, anon

>> No.13933522

>>13933077
>>13933094
I just want to improve my social skills so I can get into a good guild on WoW classic, why do you have to be such a faggot about it?

>> No.13933542

>>13933522
Because you’re an imbecile, how idiotic do you have to be to adhere to such a illogical philosophy
>want to improve social skills
>want to stay inside
Pick one you fucking overstimulated vapid zoomer twat, as if you’re even going to bother reading you fucking Mong, you probably fantasise what a sick cunt you are everyday don’t you.

>> No.13933553

>>13933522
This board is getting more useless and retarded by the day.

>> No.13933712

>>13921664
Beyond the sociopolitical ambit, and the ability to communicate verbally, no additional skills are required for socializing; you may either: assert, and express yourself within society - like you are doing here - or reserve yourself. You are conflating "social skills" with "social conformism", and/or with "social manipulation". Instead, you should develop yourself, and your own skills, and if you want - share them with a society that you share affinity with.

>> No.13933720

>>13933553
I’m feeling it.