Philosophers are snake-oil salesmen

[Anonymous No.13902919]

All philosophers are trying to sell an idea or ideology that will make them into known intellectuals or celebrities. That's why they sit down and write in the first place.

Most of the time these are artificially constructed ideologies, or they are specifically searching or inventing an irrelevant problem to fix so they can be known for it.

It's one giant vain circle jerk

[Anonymous No.13903052]

>>13902919
I was thinking about this in the shower today. We are all human beings and just bags of meaningless cells. Why the fuck does it matter relative to the scale of the universe if some asshole has some ideas that no one else has really thought of before? It doesn't matter at all.

[Anonymous No.13903056]

Yeah not really. The same could be said for many things.

[Anonymous No.13903064]

>>13902919
You're thinking of priests, not philosophers. And the celebrity fuckheads like Pinker and Harris aren't philosophers, they're modern day priests.

[Anonymous No.13903126]

I think you might be confusing philosophy for publish-or-perish, but make-problems for the sake of publications is all areas of academia. And whatever you may think about philosophy, there's nothing more soulless than yet another storage middleware paper for high-performance computing.

[Anonymous No.13903141]

>>13903052
Why should scale have any bearing on the matter? Perhaps there are galaxies without any traces of life. They're old and enormous and yet I can't help but think a single blade of grass here on earth is more important.

[Anonymous No.13903151]

>>13902919
Reminds me of this Guénon quote.

[Anonymous No.13903155]

>>13903151
Oh, the irony.

[Anonymous No.13903287]

>>13902919
Confucius didn't write anything down and he didn't sit either. He wandered all over China dispensing his wisdom to kings and serfs alike. It was only his students' students who wrote his words down.

Freud wrote down his philosophies to distract him from bad headaches.

Personally I philosophize because I enjoy it. I have a voice-recorder and I wander the streets for hours logging my different thoughts. The voice-recorder will never make me famous, but it's a good way to relax and work up an appetite. Also, if I die for some reason, people will have access to thousands of hours of my personal feelings and thoughts. That isn't fame, but it is at least being understood.

[Anonymous No.13903359]

>>13902919
The greater cannot come from the lesser all enduring philosophy began from mystical experience, eg: Socrates' daemon, Platonism in the context of the Eleusinian / Ra-Osiris mysteries, plotinus' ecstatic unions, the great scholastics aren't consider saints without reason, and Hegel was deep into esotericism and theosophy.

[Anonymous No.13903398]

>>13902919
>All philosophers are trying to sell an idea or ideology that will make them into known intellectuals or celebrities
The best works of Leibniz were never published during his lifetime. If he wanted to be famous that badly why did he keep his manuscripts to himself? Nice generalization, nerd.

[Anonymous No.13903435]

>>13903398
>w-well he kept it in his diary so it wasn't pointless mental masturbation

[Anonymous No.13903450]

>>13902919
Did you just turn 14, OP?

[Anonymous No.13903486]

>>13903450
>Did you just turn 14, OP?

[Anonymous No.13903527]

>>13903486
Me on the bottom right

[Anonymous No.13903767]

>>13902919
Hey, OP! Cool post! Mind looking at this real quick?

[Anonymous No.13903783]

>>13902919
>the fact that I only care for truth as it concerns my ego means everyone does!
Nice projection. Do you find it acceptable that you complain so vigorously about a subject you've obviously never read on? "Ideology," i.e. Marxism, Libertarianism, etc. is irrelevant to the majority of philosophy through history. Most philosophers, across cultures around the world, in fact, understood they'd be generally scorned and disliked, or at least generally isolated from the social realm. Seneca mentions this in his letters.
Interestingly enough, Socrates, the recognized founder of Western Philosophy, doesn't even have a system of doctrine called "Socratism" ascribed to him, and never wrote down any extant manuscript. And he was so concerned with his renown that the assembly at Athens sentenced him to death for being so inconsiderate of their desire.
>Most of the time these are artificially constructed ideologies, or they are specifically searching or inventing an irrelevant problem to fix so they can be known for it.
That's how logic and the scientific method came to be, and is exactly how the bedrock and formation of society has been built on. Every civilization today is built on the ideas of philosophers, because that's what the aristocrats are exposed to and follow, even if secondarily. You're perverted form of pragmatism is built on some twisted Industrial-era philosophy. Observe any party national convention in the US. The ideological presuppositions that the debaters don't even know exist are strains of Enlightenment philosophy that no Medieval or Ancient statesmen would abide by, because they began in the Enlightenment and then in the Industrial Revolution.
Confucius decided the fate of Asian civilization, down to the character of individuals, for millennia.
See Roger Bacon and Renes Descartes (Cartesian coordinates).
>>13903435
Any use of the brain would be felt as mental masturbation, to someone who never uses it.

[Anonymous No.13903795]

>>13903052
do you, by any chance, own an armchair?

[Anonymous No.13903808]

Philosophy seems to be more like social commentary more than a unbiased method of arriving at the truth.
Like Nietzche said God is dead because he observed people were becoming atheists and post modernists claimed they disproved Karl Marx because they realized what a failure communism was.

[Anonymous No.13903900]

>>13903783
>Do you find it acceptable that you complain so vigorously about a subject you've obviously never read on?
effeminate mannerism
> "Ideology," i.e. Marxism, Libertarianism, etc. is irrelevant to the majority of philosophy through history
>Socrates didn't call it socratism!
drooling 85 IQ smooth baby brains. Socrates was completely ideologically driven, it just wasn't named
>being so inconsiderate of their desire
you mean ideologically opposed
>today's debaters don't know they're debating within the confines of enlightenment faggotry
wow mind blowing
>Confucious and China
He was an ideologue you fucking brainlet

Ideologies are selected based on their practicality by elites or civilizations

>See Descartes
>dude i exist i can feel it
drooling, pant shitting, baby brains

[Anonymous No.13903910]

>>13902919
thanks for posting my wife

[Anonymous No.13903914]

>>13903808
Thats just existentialism

[Anonymous No.13903954]

>>13902919
in other words: snake-oil salesmen = snake-oil salesmen
could you allow yourself to be a bit more precise? this description could certainly apply to academic sycophants
like heidegger, but definitely not all philosophers
>>13903052
>presupposes anthropocentric axiom
>uhh my isolated ego feels kinda lonely????
>yea ackthhually nothing matter empty cell LOL

[Anonymous No.13904008]

I tried reading some Arthur Schopenhauer and it was impossible, so many weird words, it was fucked up it made not want to read phylosofi again

[Anonymous No.13904039]

>>13903052
>We are all human beings and just bags of meaningless cells
>Why the fuck does it matter relative to the scale of the universe
>Have these uncritically accepted axioms from whoever shat them out
>Pretend to think in philosophy without examining bor proving your very starting points
Socrates would wipe the floor with you. Athens was full of such people, that's why they tried to reeeee Socratic method out of existence.

[Anonymous No.13904047]

>>13902919
I agree. I remember reading a book by niezche or whatever, after finishing it I thought it was a great waste of time.

[Anonymous No.13904084]

>>13904008
>>13904047
>so many weird words, it was fucked up it made not want to read phylosofi again
>haha bro people dont even understand philosophy but i do, i'm smart and special look at this post
>guys i read and like philosophy haha other people dont get it though

[Anonymous No.13904094]

>>13902919
>known intellectuals or celebrities.
This is not the only way to perceive the world you dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.13904096]

>>13903954
>in other words: snake-oil salesmen = snake-oil salesmen
>could you allow yourself to be a bit more precise? this description could certainly apply to academic sycophants
>like heidegger, but definitely not all philosophers
It's pretty obvious what I mean by "Snake oil salesman" in my OP. Not EVERY philosopher is a snake oil salesman, it seems that there have been some who have actually tried to answer legitimate questions like "Is God real?" and things of that nature.

I would say most of the 19th century philosophers are absolute wankers though

[Anonymous No.13904109]

>>13903064
They are evangelists. They have no issue with the rabbis who tore them to shreds when they were but babies yet foreign religions are a problem... Those two are jews, doesn't matter if they don't believe in God, they believe in Jewish legalism.
Now - the actual secular clergy of the world is the journalist. A new secular variant of karma - the CO2 footprint! Or did you dare mix meat into your food!? Perhaps you should only drive every second day because the new mosaic law judges so! Remember to feel shame and self-hate for obnoxious historical revisionism! Join this war - the others were wrong!

[Anonymous No.13904136]

>>13904096
i recommend spinoza if you haven't familiarized yourself with him yet