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[Anonymous No.13896435]

just read this, why was he so bootyblasted about huey long

[Anonymous No.13896445]

>>13896435
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/it-could-happen-here/id1449762156

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13896461]

Americans have a long history of being against tyrants and authoritarianism. If you’re one of those neonazi/kekistan retards, you’re going against all American culture

[Anonymous No.13896482]

Because Huey Long did use underhanded tactics and bullying to get his way when he was governor of Louisiana, getting away with lots of things he had no constitutional authority to do. He did everything he good to make himself an effective dictator and cripple any institutions that he didn't have direct control over.

He also thought this guy's radio show was the bee's knees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin
>After hinting at attacks on Jewish bankers, Coughlin began to use his radio program to broadcast antisemitic commentary. In the late 1930s, he supported some of the fascist policies of Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and Emperor Hirohito of Japan. The broadcasts have been described as "a variation of the Fascist agenda applied to American culture".

[Anonymous No.13896517]

>>13896435
Because in America we believe in freedom.

[Anonymous No.13896534]

More importantly, why did he hate Upton Sinclair so much?

[Anonymous No.13896546]

Dude Drumpf lmao

[Anonymous No.13896547]

>>13896517
you got more people in prison then the USSR had during its peak of the gulag era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zt7bl5Z_oA

[Anonymous No.13896597]

>>13896435
Huey Long did nothing wrong. He was competing against oil companies so he did what had to be done.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13896620]

>>13896546
Read the book.

>>13896517
>>13896547
They used to. A lot has changed since the Roosevelt years

[Anonymous No.13896875]

>>13896435
Huey did, as >>13896482, assume what at the time were quasi-dictatorial powers, although nothing that nowadays would really seem like a big deal.

The real reason was that Long was completely independent of Establishment, including Jewish, influence. He wasn't even, AFAIK, really anti-semitic, he just didn't have any strings attached to him.

[Anonymous No.13896883]

>>13896875
Also, Lewis wanted to get in early on the idea that just because, technically, America didn't pogrom the Jews, they shouldn't be let off the hook just on that detail -- it was a matter of opportunity rather than character.

[Anonymous No.13896913]

Huey Long had no attachment to the banking class. A lot of attention is paid to Jews because MUH HITLER, but at the time he was alive there was still a prominent WASP upper class in America who Long was also not beholden to. Both ethno-cultural groups who ran the financial sector didn't have anything on him, which made him dangerous.

As for why he was the subject of vitriol, in essence, Huey Long served as a disruptive force which threatened to overturn the aspirations of the American bourgeoisie. I use this term as distinct from that of simply "the middle class", as men like Sinclair Lewis made sure to know what the Right Opinions where and where very sure to hold them. Men like Long were certain to make knowing what the Right Opinions were very messy, to say nothing of the fact that Long's economic ideas would certainly make climbing the economic ladder all that much harder.

[Anonymous No.13896920]

>>13896913
>men like Sinclair Lewis made sure to know what the Right Opinions where and where very sure to hold them

That's unfair, Babbitt was specifically about skewering people like that.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13896924]

>>13896875
>although nothing that nowadays would really seem like a big deal.
He was governor and senior senator at the same time

[Anonymous No.13896926]

>>13896547
we also have a lot more niggers who rape and murder people

[Anonymous No.13896928]

>>13896547
Yeah, they imprison the criminals who encroach on our rights and deprive us of our freedom.

[Anonymous No.13896931]

Who has that Huey Long meme with him dressed up as different ideologies? It's so fuckin funny.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13896945]

>>13896926
No. That’s not why there are more people in prison.
Stop being a dumb fuck
>>13896928
Drug users and petty theft. Not to mention simple quotas. Private prisons exist to make money. I hope your post was a troll

[Anonymous No.13896947]

>>13896461
False. Lincoln was a hardcore authoritarian and both parties worship him.

[Anonymous No.13896957]

>>13896945
Yes it is. Blacks are literally the reason.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13896973]

>>13896947
He was elected president.

[Anonymous No.13896978]

>>13896973
And he was a hardcore authoritarian, yes. Lincoln single handedly destroyed the rule of law in the United States personally.

He’s basically our Gracchus, with FDR being our Sulla.

[Anonymous No.13896989]

>>13896978
>>13896947
t. seething dixoid. If he hadn't been assassinated Lincoln would have seized Southern farmers' lands and given them to freed slaves, and he would have been right to do it.

[Anonymous No.13896993]

>>13896989
Lincoln was everything contemporary Republicans stand against.

[Anonymous No.13897002]

>>13896989
>would have seized Southern farmers' lands and given them to freed slaves, a
yeah cause that shit worked so well in Zimbabwe, the Congo, and soon SA lol

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13897024]

>>13896978
In order to preserve the national experiment of the USA, they took some extraordinary measures to keep it from all coming undone. But you know I’m an anarchist and don’t care about any of that. The extraordinary power taken by the White House in recent decades have not been taken in any emergency capacities, but just for corruption

[Anonymous No.13897025]

>>13896461
>Americans have a long history of being against tyrants and authoritarianism.

Ha, look at who you thickshits picked as your president a couple of years ago. The American exceptionalism you believe in is nothing but a myth your schools fed to you.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13897046]

>>13897025
Oh yeah. Like said above, we’ve really changed since Roosevelts terms, and especially since they killed Kennedy. Naw, it’s more about money than ever before. Freedom and justice are just empty words. More squawking over the 2nd amendment than the 1st. The crackup can’t come too soon.

[Anonymous No.13897047]

>>13896993
c*nservatives don't even know the Free Soil Party existed

[Anonymous No.13897076]

What are some good books on Huey Long? He seems interesting but I don't know much about him. In my high school history classes, they called him a red and brushed past him without actually talking about him. In my college history class specifically on American politics during the Depression, they called him Hitler with a Southern drawl and brushed past him to talk about WPA mural artists for some reason. Since all the various sorts of propagandists I've met have hated him for this or that reason, I can only guess that he was probably doing *something* right by everyman.

[Anonymous No.13897079]

>>13896461
americans, particularly liberals and left wingers, can be childlishly naive at times in their belief in American institutions, from boomers who fantasise about the good men and women of the FBI(tm) finally sending drumpf to prision for colluding with the Russians, to self professed anarchists and radicals who talk about Drumpf as he represents a betrayal of american culture and the cherished truths of civics class rather than the purest expression of it. From the outside it just looks like they are struggling with unconscious memories of cold war indoctrination, 9/11 inside job, mkultra, protestantism and new atheism, even when they claim to counterculture and nonconformity they can be surprisingly quaint at times it's as if you just came upon a nineteenth century quaker or an upstanding 50s suburbanite after decades and decades of paranoia, chemicals and total mobilisation for war/consumption

[Anonymous No.13897088]

>>13896945
Not him, and I agree with you on drug users, but fuck thieves. Doesn't matter whether they're stealing in a tailored suit or tweaker rags; fuck thieves.

[Anonymous No.13897102]

>>13896435
Because he an authoritarian but a alright one in my eyes. He helped the common people, gave kids free textbooks and turned dirt roads into the concrete ones.didn’t use race baiting and after he was assassinated; FDR used some parts of his share the wealth program

[Anonymous No.13897108]

>>13896945
think whatever you, hopefully you get killed by some gorilla nigger

[Anonymous No.13897121]

>>13897076
Read Huey long by William t. Harry
And his autobiography as well

[Anonymous No.13897125]

I'm sorry! I guess my American history is a little rusty.

To all the Jew bashers in this thread:.. Exactly what banks in America were Jewish? Was JP Morgan a Jew? Was Chase? What American Monopolies were Jewish? Was Rockefeller a Jew? How about Carnegie?

The inconvenient but relevant news to you racists is that jews were excluded from banking, the law, and business until really the 1980s. Yet you blame them for the greed and corrupion that white people did all to themselves.

There really is a Trump derangement syndrome: Trump supporters are deranged and make up all kinds of shit to fit their narrative.

Sad....

[Anonymous No.13897133]

>>13897121
Thanks, anon.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13897134]

>>13897079
>particularly liberals and left wingers
So both left wing and right
You have daftly loyal people on both sides of the liberal spectrum. A small fraction of “conservatives” distrust or loath the government, but usually when the opposing team is in power.
You got a lot of this twisted, is all I’m saying.

>>13897088
They’re poor and desperate. I don’t like ‘em, but I know why they steal

[Anonymous No.13897135]

>It Can't Happen Here
>It
No really, what exactly did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.13897139]

>>13896445
>podcast
t. midwit

[Anonymous No.13897143]

>>13897134
>They’re poor and desperate. I don’t like ‘em, but I know why they steal
I hope a nigger robs you and you learn your fucking lesson.

[Anonymous No.13897144]

>>13896461
Oh say can you seeeeeee!

[Anonymous No.13897151]

>>13897135
Do you have brain problems?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13897173]

>>13897143
You got an English comprehension problem?

>>13897135
Fascism, fuck nut.

[Anonymous No.13897176]

>>13897134
I have empathy for the man stealing a can of beans to feed his children and the man robbing a bank to pay his wife's insane medical bills. I have no empathy for the tweaker who strips the copper wires out of my shed to fund his illness or for the bankers and defense contractors who fleece normal families and the nation as a whole to buy luxury cars, airhead trophy wives, and inordinate amounts of blow.

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>>13897176
I have a similar empathy scale. I do want it to stop someday.

[Anonymous No.13897214]

>>13897173
Ok wow, I might be a fuck nut but at least I'm not rude

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13897240]

>>13897214
Okay, I’m sowwy

[Anonymous No.13897251]

>>13897173
No, I got a nigger problem.

[Anonymous No.13897519]

>>13897134
Tell me about all the ordinary conservative Americans your spend time and discuss politics with.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13897653]

>>13897519
I was born into it. I’ve known quite a few and I know the diversity of their side and the various leftists

[Anonymous No.13897767]

>>13897653
Do you ever come out to California?

[Anonymous No.13897799]

>Main Street
>It Can't Happen Here

Lewis was a professional at skewering liberals, it's really something. And Babbit BTFO suburban "we just need a solid businessman in the White House" conservatives. The satire in these three books holds up today, which shows how little American culture and politics have really changed from the 20s and 30s -- or maybe it's more that we've just entered another period that resembles them.

Elmer Gantry isn't as good of a novel of those other three, but the strain of grifter evangelicalism it depicts still exists in full force today.

[Anonymous No.13897804]

>>13897799

And in case anyone is wondering --

Main Street: the hubris of cultural liberalism.
It Can't Happen Here: the cowardice of professional liberalism.
Babbit: the complacency of bourgeois conservatives.

[Anonymous No.13897807]

>>13896989
But that’s factually wrong. Lincoln was at the forefront of the attempt to get rid of the blacks.

He was also unambiguously a tyrant who shredded the constitution.

Due process lol wats that

[Anonymous No.13897814]

>>13897125
The Federal Reserve is dominated by kikes, moron.

[Anonymous No.13897820]

>>13897024
You cannot “preserve” rule of law by dismantling it. And Lincoln was, of course, corrupt himself, and a beneficiary of the financial elite.

I’m glad we’re past desperately apologising for his crimes though.

[Anonymous No.13898222]

>>13897076
Read Kingfish The Reign of Huey P. Long.

[Anonymous No.13899622]

>>13897125
>The inconvenient but relevant news to you racists is that jews were excluded from banking, the law, and business until really the 1980s.

imagine being this fucking naive

[Anonymous No.13899684]

>>13896461
Wow, fierce girl today! Time of the month?

[Anonymous No.13899695]

>>13896875
This.

[Anonymous No.13899807]

>>13897173
Do you even know what Fascism is, or is it just what you call anyone that does not share your political opinions? Asking for a fren.

[Anonymous No.13899811]

>>13896461
Our nobility is barely even aware it’s a nobility. Give it 20 years. Amazon already runs the entire show in Washington, from U Dub to Puget Sound to Vancouver.

[Anonymous No.13899855]

>>13896461
Huey Long actually did stuff for people and was probably one of the most effectual American politicians of the last century. He wasn't simply a palace mandarin of wealth and privilege.

[Anonymous No.13899870]

>>13896547
The USSR didn't have blaqs and Mexican cartels.

[Anonymous No.13899905]

>>13896435
He could not handle the Long.

[Anonymous No.13900034]

>>13896620
orange man bad!

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13900037]

>>13899807
Yes, of course I do. Do you need a reminder?

>>13899855
A good king, a brief reign. He was kind to the black folks too, I hear.
Lewis only made a fictional character crossed with Long and the Europeans

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13900047]

>>13900034
>Brown man bad

They both are. Stop being so dumb

[Anonymous No.13900184]

>>13899807
Fascism is what an Anglo/American liberal finds uncouth and perhaps downright mean.

[Anonymous No.13900275]

>>13896547
freedom ain't free la

[Anonymous No.13900327]

>>13899807
>Do you even know what Fascism is, or is it just what you call anyone that does not share your political opinions? Asking for a fren.
>>13900184
>Fascism is what an Anglo/American liberal finds uncouth and perhaps downright mean.

>oh yeah? well, my dad says that when people say fascist they just mean something they don't like"
hard cringe

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.13900642]

>>13896461
>« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE

what is the purpose of the second part, !mxvabIoSIE, is it just additional information to track posts by name or something?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.13900686]

>>13896461
>« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE

What is the purpose of the second part of the name, !mxvabIoSIE, is it just further identification for you, or is it for tracking posts by name or something?

[Anonymous No.13900690]

Still haven't seen a proper definition of fascism.
People hate it because they can't understand it.

[Anonymous No.13900697]

>>13900690
It's not that hard to understand. They hate fascism because it's capitalism in decay.

[Anonymous No.13900711]

>>13900697
Wow great explanation.
Fascism doesn't actually imply economic stance at all though. There are fascists such as the Italians, who were much more corporatism, while the British and German fascists promoted mixed economies, and the strasserists were downright socialists.
Keep quoting some brainlet retard who couldn't even manage to keep Stalin out of power despite being an undisputed dictator though. Read a book.

[Anonymous No.13900721]

>>13899870
have sex

[Anonymous No.13900723]

>>13897135
haha yeah that format sucks, but watcha gonna do about it?

[Anonymous No.13900730]

>>13896461
>hasn’t read Hamilton

[Anonymous No.13900735]

>>13900697
i understand that leather doesn't taste good

[Anonymous No.13900758]

>>13900711
so where in fascism has wage-labor abolition has been proposed or ever theorized? nowhere becouse welfare does not in any sense contradict Capitalism. the core of Fascism is always Capitalism. always.

[Anonymous No.13900780]

>>13900690
facism is an ideology based on fear and vanity.

[Anonymous No.13900783]

>>13900780
Learn to spell an ideology before you critique it.

[Anonymous No.13900804]

>>13900780
I think Willheim Reich says it better in mass psychology of fascism.

"This is borne out by the fact that, throughout the history of human society, the
authoritarian discipline of the state has always thwarted natural sociability and the
pleasure of work; the state has thwarted society; the. Compulsive sacredness of the family
has thwarted the love of husband, wife and children; compulsive morality has thwarted
the natural decency that springs from the joy of life; and the politician has continually
thwarted working men and women. Fundamentally, our society is ruled by concepts - by
political-irrational concepts, let it be noted - that exploit human labour to compass
irrational goals by force."

[Anonymous No.13900812]

>>13900804
Willheim Reich was the originator of the "have sex, incels" meme

[Anonymous No.13901001]

>>13900721
dial8 t_ranny

[Anonymous No.13901029]

>>13900804
>jewish psychoanalyst who promoted sexual permissiveness talking about familial love

[Anonymous No.13901041]

>>13901029
Way to not get it, you are mixing him with the other sexologists, Reich considered that people was having sex already and sexual taboos and forced morality caused more problems than solutions, that's why he promoted stuff like condoms to avoid abortions.

[Anonymous No.13901093]

>>13901029
>sexual permissiveness

its called having sex you should try it feels good man

[Anonymous No.13902171]

>>13896461
>Americans have a long history of being against tyrants and authoritarianism

imagine being this naive

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13902198]

>>13902171
>has never read a history book.
Again. In recent decades our “freedoms” have eroded. But haven’t you noticed? A lot of people still think we have all that.

[Anonymous No.13902210]

>>13902198
i think america lost its "cape of innocence" after the civil war, just saying

[Anonymous No.13902283]

When America follows in Rome's footsteps and completes the transition from republic to empire, nobody should be allowed to say that they didn't see it coming.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13902295]

>>13902210
And afterwards became evermore socialist and fought authoritarianism as much as fell to blind patriotism and the lie that we had all the freedom promised. Part of why people went out west to the left coast

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13902299]

>>13902283
>Any day now.

[Anonymous No.13902325]

>>13902295
butty, why are you a slave of the establishment? don´t you know that being an anarchist is what the establishment seeks of you? oh such a naive girl, you belong to the worms

[Anonymous No.13902331]

>>13902283
>When America follows in Rome's footsteps and completes the transition from republic to empire,

the transitioned materialized with FDR

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13902338]

>>13902331
The Praetorian guard have been managing things since the killed Kennedy, even

[Anonymous No.13902344]

>>13902338
>The Praetorian guard have been managing things since the killed Kennedy, even

[Anonymous No.13902376]

>>13902331
No, I don't think we're there QUITE yet, but we're in the endgame now. Trump is a figure like the Gracchi brothers or Sulla, the beginning of the end. You can argue that certain presidents, like FDR, were also American "populares," in the Roman model, but Trump is one of the first figures to truly display open contempt for Congress, in the way that, say, Pompey flouted the Senate.

Then again, you could make the argument that Obama was more of a Sulla type, insofar as Sulla represented an attempt to use extraordinary powers but in a way that would result in a return to "normalcy." From this perspective, Trump would be Pompey, taking advantage of all of the precedents set by his predecessor to return things from "normalcy" to an even greater amount of chaos than existed before.

Hmm, I guess in turn that would make Dubya Catiline? Obviously nobody is exactly the same as their Roman counterpart, but there are some interesting parallels.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13902403]

>>13902344
Read a book and stop being so dumb.

>>13902376
Look. It would do them no good to reveal how much of a lie this “republic” is right now. It is and always has been a commercial empire, but the way it’s been governed has had less to do with what these lame three branches want with each passing president.
History does *literally* repeat like that. This is the same old empire, but we’re a sinking empire now that capitalism is flying off to China. There’s no high golden age of empire in store for the US, that came and went already