The Stories of Stories

[Anonymous No.13870298]

I've met nobody who writes like me, about anything similar. I seek this more than anything: to find someone I can jive, jam, and enjoy with, our words and souls dancing together in sexual union. Those who write in this style have always been very distant to me, found only in books.

The genre is speculative science-fiction that could be described as "memepunk" (referencing the idea that occasions of experience are living evolutionary phenomenon not "internet memes") that seeks to take science-fiction to the furthest reaches of speculation: to imagine the un-imaginable that makes the un-imaginable imaginable. This science-fiction, and the science behind it seeks the source of creative inspiration, and to use it as technology. Narratives involving magic can involve such intensities, but spectacularly fail as they are the science-fiction of the past, not even of the present, much less the future. So throw away any idea about magic. The world-building is simple: everything must be hyper-naturalistic and hyper-realistic to qualify as scientific hyperstition. What is required for this is an organic realism so holistic and expansive the literally the entire world comes alive as a living processes of processes. With that we have a common reference point for speculation: the organic philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead, and what is inspired with it.

"A meme is a mutation in the mind" - Richard Dawkins

This Memepunk genre finds present social reality to be the ultimate dystopia; no greater dystopia can be imagined, as humans have already created it. All of humanity has become a global Doomsday device due to mutually and self-destructive patterns of human relationships. It speaks with the clearest and most horrified leftists who see the world burning in front of their eyes.

[Anonymous No.13870299]

With no worse situation imaginable, speculative horror is over. Any fictional monstrosities are kittens compared to fact, there is no new ground to be tread. The terrain of science-fiction speculation is entirely that of WONDER. And so it imagines the greatest wonder it can, a wonderous event of human history, culture, life, meaning, art, science, and philosophy. This event is a memetic singularity: an explosion of human creativity in all domains, and a global enrichment of the intensity of lived experience for all. This event is the arrival of the future to the fullest realization of it's possibility, analogous to the arrival of a hyper-advanced alien civilization on Earth as hyper-terrestriality. It is inspired by visions of the technological singularity but finds them extremely limited: what is imagined is recursive mutual improvement in human relationships, and by interdependence the entire biosphere of the world. The only term that truly encompasses this happening is "organic singularity" and it finds it's passionate determinations for the future of life in the green movement, but considers what is involved in such a movement to go down to the level of fundamental metaphysics, involving a universal language of languages.

There is a catalyst of this event: a visionary who has sought such a future with all the strength she could manage. This irresistible becoming was given by her absolute love of creativity in all of its forms, a life-long study and engagement with it, who identifies with creativity to the essence of her mortal soul. She is I, Eris Omniquery, and as the story of the future unfolds as reality and the Meme Wars resolve, so will mine.

https://vimeo.com/specalblend

https://pastebin.com/GnBgTU52

[Anonymous No.13870543]

I must deny the existence of any "must read" books, books that compel and demand themselves to be read comprise the dictatorship of self-dictation: The Official Canon. Even my most cherished books and stories, even my own story is not a "must read." I deny that books need to be read a certain way, or even used a certain way, such as for non-reading. I deny that one must even read or be "well read" to be self-creative, as it falsely places one creative activity above all.

Instead I commend engagement with philosophical inquiry itself, in the full expansiveness of it's pursuits that go beyond books and beyond stories into the study of life itself. What matters ins't what you read, but rather being elevated by the spirit of philosophy: to feel the romance of the adventures of ideas, and to explore it with the greatest fascination and wonder.

This is a selection of books that have greatly inspired me, the conversations to be had among them and many others are amazing. I'd recommend "I am a Strange Loop" by Douglas Hofstadter because it's wild stories are very much similar to my writing style, and greatly inspired by it. Upon examination, anyone familiar with process philosophy will see an attempt to advance a process cognitive psychology, as many of it's premises are very similar to Whiteheadean principles.

[Anonymous No.13870797]

What's a good place to follow your work man? This interests me

[Anonymous No.13870804]

Metaphors, analogies, and their doings is at the heart of our story. Some have imagined incredible involvements of them, such as Douglas Hofstadter. Hints of something remarkable to be discovered, and activities to be engaged in can be smelled in his story "Prince Hyppia: Math Dramatica" which itself is a metaphor of the strange doings in the foundation of mathematics involving the Principia Mathematica. There is more than just poetry involved here: there is mathematics and science. Indeed, the terrain this story takes place is at the intersection of the poetic and literal.

Here is the full copy of "I am a Strange Loop": http://www.chadpearce.com/Home/BOOKS/112327702-Am-a-Strange-Loop-Douglas-R-Hofstadter.pdf

Here is a condensed talk by Hofstadter of his "analogy as the core of cognition" theory, with some added elements: https://vimeo.com/129280982

[Anonymous No.13870813]

>>13870797
https://www.reddit.com/user/Eris_Omniquery/
https://old.reddit.com/user/Aminom_Omniquery/

[Anonymous No.13870866]

Some say that Aminom and Eris are two people pretending to be the same person. Others say that they are one person who thinks they are two. I would say that we are a system of three autonomous identity modes interconnected with a non-identity mode describable as "a question questioning itself," a "strange question," and that the model of identity as it is commonly known is a big understanding. This is my self-portrait.

Carl Sagan would say that "we are a way for the cosmos to know itself," all-inclusive of other ways. Indeed, the spirit that he evokes in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLigBYhdUDs truly is a way in which I identify as truly living.

[Anonymous No.13870899]

>>13870866
Big misunderstanding^

[Anonymous No.13871136]

This story naturally involves "weird memetics" and cultural virality: https://pastebin.com/4s91qRn6

[Anonymous No.13871170]

I originated the meme "Space Taoism" and was lightly involved in cosmotechnics threads: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tao_of_Calculus/comments/9rpnrl/space_taoism_101/

While I continue to maintain this framework, Space Taoism is dead for me because it has gotten very boring, and I must seek the Weird. So now I engage in even stranger philosophical activities that even the most well-read minds would dismiss as complete delusional psychosis. Being familiar with delusional psychosis, I see no problem with this. Those who can read me would probably have to understand the most extremely psychotic bipolar mind.

[Anonymous No.13871173]

> We wuz prosaic n sheeit

[Anonymous No.13871594]

>>13870298
>I've met nobody who writes like me, about anything similar. I seek this more than anythin
I got exactly this far before clicking to link you rSotS and Aminom and I scroll down to see
>https://vimeo.com/specalblend

lmao

gj m80

[Anonymous No.13871640]

>>13871594
;)

[Anonymous No.13871646]

https://www.crystalinks.com/
https://www.researchersoftruth.org/
https://theoriginoflanguage.com/
http://www.pleiadianlight.net/
https://brotherhoodofthewhitetemple.com/the-emerald-tablets/
https://lisagawlas.wordpress.com/
http://www.logosapologia.org/eschatology/

[Anonymous No.13871674]

>>13871646
https://principiadiscordia.com/book/1.php

[Anonymous No.13871677]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzb_MA3_pKeFOmA5-RcWqVg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEcMWs6GudljuLw0-Umf97A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me4NgvxI0Dw&list=PL955088C496EF6F2E

[Anonymous No.13871702]

https://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/21cc/counterculture/assaultonculture/assaultonculture.html

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[Anonymous No.13871755]

https://boards.420chan.org/pss/res/207739.php

[Anonymous No.13871759]

>>13871702
>>13871723
>>13871731
A list of endless complaints. Endless work. No thanks, I'd rather play much more interesting games: https://taylorpearson.me/bookreview/finite-and-infinite-games-summary-quotes/

[Anonymous No.13871772]

found you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTMFBYXmvMk

[Anonymous No.13871777]

http://xenopraxis.net/readings/ccru_lemuriantimewar.pdf

>he doesn't know about Lemurian time war

[Anonymous No.13871795]

>>13871777
>he doesn't even know that I know about something he likes and like it as well, and have been inspired by it.

Thank you for bringing this up, it reminded me to add these ingredients:

http://merliquify.com/blog/articles/hyperstition/

http://cyborganthropology.com/Hypersigil

[Anonymous No.13871800]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy5tYVU5mFk&list=PL8F393A80E80263B3

[Anonymous No.13871877]

>>13871755
err

https://pastebin.com/u/The_Fool

[Anonymous No.13871898]

Despite the apparent similarities in style between my kind of writing and others such as the CCRU, I would call mine as being very much different because it is entirely post-war, as in completely unconcerned with all conditions of war, and imagines a sphere of activity entirely beyond war. This requires imagining a "strategy of non-strategy," cooperation excluded from all involvement with competition. It is simply known as "love." "Finite and Infinite Games" is a pretty good reference point for trying to imagine such a world of activity, "Nonzero: The Logic of Destiny" by Robert Wright a pretty heavily capital-infested launch point, and indeed game theory should be thrown out entirely to fully imagine post-war. However it was a good tool when I first started imagining the game of games: https://vimeo.com/124736839

Yes, I am crazy enough to believe that what is involved with love can be described with a clarity that truly describes it as having the power we experience it to be. I am so girly.

[Anonymous No.13871909]

http://stealthissingularity.com

[Anonymous No.13871914]

>>13871898
What about Solarpunk?

[Anonymous No.13871930]

>>13871909
<3 I love that guy. Here's an interview of him by none other than Douglas Rushkoff: https://medium.com/@StealThisSingul/operation-mindfuck-was-too-successful-r-u-sirius-interviewed-by-douglas-rushkoff-6607e4edc522

Douglas Rushkoff wrote this: >>13871136

[Anonymous No.13871961]

>>13871914
I don't dislike it, I like how green everything is, but it really hasn't inspired me yet.

[Anonymous No.13872009]

>>13871898
True play in this regard can be imagined as loving and love-full activity, involving enthusiastic consent, the playground of love. It can touch any involvement, not such sexual activity - but it must be inclusive of such activity.

[Anonymous No.13872018]

>>13870813

[Anonymous No.13872030]

>>13871961
It seems to go along with your post war theme, imagining the world anew, now, and a focus on positive generation of novel spontaneous non-hierarchical action instead of as a negation or reaction. I'm probably distorting the message:

https://wiki.sunbeam.city/doku.php

[Anonymous No.13872042]

>>13872030
>I'm probably distorting the message:
This isn't all discouraged. Those points satisfy mine, so I qualify as a solarpunk.

[Anonymous No.13872070]

>>13872030
Solarpunk is "I need it" but what I really want is "fuck yes," joyous enthusiasm. Of course this must also involve necessity, but it strives to be post-necessity, post-imperative, to engage in fully open-ended exploration. If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[Anonymous No.13872143]

>>00000000
>How are Trans people involved?
Glad nobody asked. Imagine the shared desires among trans people, which are "the conditions to become the opposite sex." Everything is inferior to complete and total transformation. This inspires trans minds to seek self-transformatability, and also social and technological transformatability. You don't have to be trans and can be completely heteronormal and have such desires, but being trans practically necessitates it as the core of one's identity. Also it's inspired by the need to be better than any woman to be accepted as a woman at all. I want to be the best girl I can be.

[Blood No.13872180]

>>13870299
>With no worse situation imaginable, speculative horror is over.

You must not have much of an imagination then. There's always something to be afraid of.

[Anonymous No.13872230]

>>13872180
Self-sabotage

[Anonymous No.13872253]

>>13872230
That's not really horrifying though... maybe write a tragedy?

[Anonymous No.13872257]

>>13872230
The only thing I fear is my own stupidity, because it is the only thing one can possibly control. Epistemology is the only true kung-fu, and it's eternal opponent is human stupidity. The sound of enlightenment is precisely when one realizes that they have been stupid.

I greatly admire Richard Dawkins' Fightin' Fedoran kung-fu style.

[Anonymous No.13872266]

>>13872253
I lived such tragedies, they were hilarious. Eventually I learned to enjoy the hilarity while experiencing them, and actually experience pleasure from the realization of my own stupidity. "I'm stupid! Fuck yes! I actually just LEARNED SOMETHING!"

[Anonymous No.13872277]

>>13872257
>The only thing I fear is my own stupidity, because it is the only thing one can possibly control. Epistemology is the only true kung-fu, and it's eternal opponent is human stupidity. The sound of enlightenment is precisely when one realizes that they have been stupid.
Very epic

>I greatly admire Richard Dawkins' Fightin' Fedoran kung-fu style.
Oh no you were doing so amazing. Did you know that some of the theories of knowledge in epistemology are made use of in theology? Not saying it's legit, at the very least they're salvaging any logic from the vast stupidity that is theology.

[Anonymous No.13872280]

She who self-defeats hard enough becomes a master at it.

[Anonymous No.13872282]

>>13870298
Hello, is this the pretentiousness thread?

[Anonymous No.13872302]

>>13872277
Yeah I found stance that works a lot better: the Discordian stance. But I still admire Richard Dawkins stance against religion.

>>13872282
Yes, it is, welcome home <3

[Anonymous No.13872315]

>>13872282
>implying you can be pretentious on a board dedicated to reading books
When everyone is pretentious, no one is.

[Anonymous No.13872326]

>>13872302
>Discordian stance
I am really thick and dull and basically dumb, so if you can please summarize exactly what that is?
I feel like I should know what that means by now

[Anonymous No.13872328]

>>13872315
Spoken like a true intellectual ^^

[Anonymous No.13872338]

>>13872326
This is my own interpretation of my stance: https://vimeo.com/265524091

This is Aminom's stance: https://vimeo.com/271193975/8ed2369743

[Anonymous No.13872370]

>>13872338
Dude all you had to say is Tao.
Epistemology is the circuit, Tao is the flow.
But I am confused. What does this have to do with so called 'discord' or is that what you mean by creativity. Tao is the main flow, the circuits allow all acceptable concurrent flows.
Delusions can also flow, which is why we need sound circuity with high integrity.

[Blood No.13872465]

>>13872266
>>13872280

You can't self-defeat if you weren't trying to achieve anything in the first place.

#NoGoals

[Anonymous No.13872555]

http://www.apolloschildren.com/ReadingList.php

[Anonymous No.13872606]

https://syntheticzero.net/
https://www.laboriacuboniks.net/
https://zinzrinz.blogspot.com/2019/04/alien-rhythms.html
https://thedefinitearticle.wordpress.com/2008/05/17/the-dao-of-dick-a-critique-of-daoism-in-the-man-in-the-high-castle/


https://socialecologies.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/wei-chi-the-transition-to-order-incomplete/

>Almost forty-six years ago I began studying martial arts, which is both mimetic praxis and guided didacticism of master/pupil; yet, with the truth that the pupil becomes only the master of herself rather than enslaved to the form within which she moves.

[Anonymous No.13872626]

>>13872465
not sure if missing the point, or bringing it home

[Anonymous No.13872674]

https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/comments/c8r5o0/platos_the_forms_and_spiritual_warfare/

[Anonymous No.13872687]

>>13870298
>I've met nobody who writes like me, about anything similar.
I mean how can they if they are not you?

[Anonymous No.13872712]

>>13872370
>Dude all you had to say is Tao.
I'd just say "change" or "movement" is all that is needed. A question mark.
>What does this have to do with so called 'discord'

Discordianism is a religion that is so anti-dogmatic that it presents itself as a joke, to call everything about itself into question. "Bringing everything into question" or "agnosticism about everything" was the goal of Robert Anton Wilson, who was a writer intimately involved with Discordianism.

https://principiadiscordia.com/book/1.php

>Delusions can also flow, which is why we need sound circuity with high integrity.

This circuitry I would describe as "the set of all possible questions from a given perspective at a given point of time" as an object, and as a process to "be all-questionable," to seek to expand the horizon of one's questionability. A question is a quest, a narrative movement. It's recursively self-improving epistemological self-improvement.

[Anonymous No.13872716]

>>13870298

>wordswordswords
>isms
>magic
>mental convulsion

Take your epileptic pills

[Anonymous No.13872761]

Let my tombstone read: "She tried to do as little work as possible." Down with clockocracy!

[Anonymous No.13872792]

>“what is work? Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so. The first one is unpleasant and ill paid; the second is pleasant and highly paid.”

I don't agree with his appraisal of the second kind of work as "pleasant." In fact there's nothing more horrifyingly boring for me than telling idiots what to do. No work for this girl.

[Anonymous No.13872794]

>>13872712
Okay so basically I live and breath discordianism, but at the same time I don't like the word.
It has nothing to do with discord!
Practicality over all else.
Function over form.
It is the height of modernism!
It is in utter harmony and flow of nature.
Nothing chaotic or discordian about it...
Or is it discord for the discord? That can make sense!

Let trouble know when they come to town, that I am the trouble for the trouble.

>This circuitry I would describe as "the set of all possible questions from a given perspective at a given point of time" as an object, and as a process to "be all-questionable," to seek to expand the horizon of one's questionability. A question is a quest, a narrative movement. It's recursively self-improving epistemological self-improvement.
Very nice. Have you found fundamental premises? I will soon be working to collaborate on that.

[Anonymous No.13872825]

>>13872794
>Practicality over all else.
What is only practical for me to be is to be wholly impractical, my singular job. I have absolutely no reason for being here, and I shouldn't be here.
>Function over form
Fun. Fullstop.
>It is in utter harmony and flow of nature.
The flow of nature isn't the flow-constriction of linear time, but the nature of relational change.

>Very nice. Have you found fundamental premises? I will soon be working to collaborate on that.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Tao_of_Calculus/comments/9rpnrl/space_taoism_101

[Anonymous No.13872929]

>>13872302
>But I still admire Richard Dawkins stance against religion.

US-centric internet discourse has failed to move beyond an endless relitigation of the Richard Dawkins New Atheism era, where the goal is to epic logic own le fundie opponent into submission with ''facts'' and ''reason''. This goes for most of the ''left'' but specially for the ''right'', obviously kids who grew up with atheism debates on early social media, the accelerating secularisation post-9/11(any study of New Atheism must consider its links to neoconservatism), and overtly sacrilegious pop culture. Seems like the ''death of God'' is still the pressing cultural problem, we stand in a confused relationship to the 2000 years of christian civilisation which preceded us. The modern concept of Atheism wouldn't make sense without Christianity, militant atheists are in a way more christian than merely secular people.

The protestant background of Americans is obvious to outside observers, and people really underestimate how much the discourse of science and progress, and even secular humanism are developments of christian theology. I think you might fit within the broad tradition of American Transcendentalism and Unitarianism.

Stewart Brand's Whole Earth Catalog served as an interdisciplinary cultural nexus between lots of these ideas back in the 60s and 70s, psychedelics, cybernetics, computers, new age mysticism, etc., incredibly influential on what later became silicon valley and hacker culture. But were there is hope there is also danger utopian potentialities are inextricably bound to dystopian ones. mind control, the implication of biology in the management of human populations (Malthus was a political economist), the omnipresence of the cold war research industrial complex, the question is, can humanism survive all of this?

[Anonymous No.13872967]

>>13872825
That's hilarious! To be honest, this is ideal for women.
Women make connections and proliferate basic necessities based on the context of their societies. And they do it by having fun...
Men traverse unexplored territory and lead the way. I hope this sounds sexy.

I want to look at that but I fear it will impede my current flow. What I had in mind...
How valid do you think is 'Cogito Ergo Sum'

[Anonymous No.13873006]

>>13872929
>I think you might fit within the broad tradition of American Transcendentalism and Unitarianism.

Nah, I'm just trans.The only art tradition that has really fits me is the furry fandom, which is very much related to this >>13872143

[Anonymous No.13873149]

>>13872967
>Cogito Ergo Sum
Replaced it with "what do I think about?" because it goes places, x=x just says with itself. I'm trans-rational, which includes rationality and irrationality as both legitimate activities. This means that I don't see any "laws" of thought, or "laws" about anything as absolute, in fact broken logic can be incredibly useful and is indespensible for creativity. Forexample the "law" of misidentity: "Whatever appears to be the case may not be the case." and the "law" of self-contradictability: "Something can both be and not be" This is very related to metaphor.

A similar concept is described in the Principia Discordia:

>The Free Mantra of Sri Syadasti Syadavaktavya Syadasti Syannasti Syadasti Cavaktavyasca Syadasti Syannasti Syadavatavyasca Syadasti Syannasti Syadavaktavyasca (for some strange reason, commonly called Sri Syadasti)

>Also heretically expressed as: "All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." and "The teachings of the Sri Syadasti School of Spiritual School of Spiritual Wisdom are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." — will heresies never cease?

It is also described in Prince Hyppia: Math Dramatica >>13870804 under "How Can an "Unpennable" Line Be Penned?"

[Anonymous No.13873168]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU

[Anonymous No.13873173]

>>13873149
But do you exist? You could be dreaming, hallucinating. You could be watching a movie and be under the illusion that you are doing anything.
With the most extreme skepticism, is there any actual proof?
Can there be a premise that is not based on assumption? Is anything, inherently true?
What is your highest standard of objectivity?
>>Also heretically expressed as: "All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." and "The teachings of the Sri Syadasti School of Spiritual School of Spiritual Wisdom are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." — will heresies never cease?
Hilarious! I do believe that some things can be ascertained. Minuscule they may seem, it's an important pivot to grow out the entirety of knowledge from.

[Anonymous No.13873212]

>>13873173
Apparently to prove you are a girl on 4chan you need to show tits.

[Anonymous No.13873224]

>>13873212
I am more confident in your existence!

[Anonymous No.13873540]

>>13873224
Am I confident in my own existence? I know only how I feel, and I feel pretty damn good right now.

[Anonymous No.13873560]

Does this feel like a risky pursuit that puts in question the core aspects of what I think about myself, and so makes it a field of experimentation? From experiences of such other risky attempts and their productive failures to include previously comfortable assumptions, this does seem like a rigorous attempt to be true to myself.

[Anonymous No.13873570]

Self-honesty, even through the most severe pain at what self-analysis reveals has been my life's pursuit. From the courage to have self-honesty, all other virtues follow. May others experience such titanic and meaningful battles with themselves as I have.

[Anonymous No.13873587]

>>13873570
So that's kind of the relationship between Aminom and Eris as identity-processes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogical_self

Literally like this pic, until at some point the dialogic field of conflict blossomed into a field of play. I learned to play with myself very well, you see.

[Anonymous No.13873630]

>>13873587
My psychiatrist who taught a class in mindfulness-based cognitive therapy I participated in once described the aim of MBCT to "train one to become one's own psychologist." It was spectacularly effective for me, because the practice and the theory behind it directly led to my theory of perception being comprised of two reference-frames of change-perception: immediate change in the present and cumulative change over time. This relation is precisely that as between integration and differentiation. Following this led me to Discordian of all ridiculous things, and then to Mr. Whitehead, whose own theory of perception was identical.

When I read Whitehead is when I realized that I wasn't crazy at all. The precision between my own model and key elements of his was exact.

This is when I knew I won the quest to find the future. I'm just waiting for others to begin to arrive at the similar conclusions...

[Anonymous No.13873650]

How is my memepunk fairytale so far?

[Anonymous No.13873652]

>>13873587
https://www.tumblr.com/search/actuallymultiple
https://www.tumblr.com/search/plurality

[Anonymous No.13873658]

>>13873652

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>>13873658

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>>13873662

[Anonymous No.13873694]

>>13873677

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[Anonymous No.13873800]

>>13873694
Discord trannies, right?

[Anonymous No.13873815]

>>13873706
"A key point here is that magical thinking is entangled with all kinds of practical engagements with the world."

And nothing was further than the truth.

[Anonymous No.13873924]

I didnt believe that much in god, maybe I believed,I dont know, but I dont like his ideas, I dont like his memes. I dont like at all!

Its so weird, to have such a strong meme in the first layers of my memories as a human.
He is the center of the culture, the center of moral, the center of sense. And I dont like him at all.

History is a fight for memes and genes. People want to spread. That God guy is strong, and he have so many forms that just confused me.
The messiah, Jesus, he dosent look like that for me. His memes were so more compatible with my mind than his father had. It just confused me how he is an avatar for that guy.
Is that the duality of the divine? Conflicting memes? Something look weird.

The memes they tried to spread on my early mind, in school, it always irritated me! Having to fucking ask for use the bathroom? having to answer questions the way they want?
Its a reformation of the mind, getting the soil ready for their memes. Its a mind rape. Putting the kids into submission. They got full potential, they are stablishing their brains priority and regular usage. So much things can come from a children mind, but she is bowed to the family hierarchy, or school hierarchy, or any hierarchy since early, and these define their meme priority, kinda rebelious, kinda passive but totally under the power of their parents and teachers.

Maybe these kids may got the control when they are teenagers, they got time, will, energy,strong bodies,strong imunologic system,intense creativity, a really evil side debating with a better one,the teenage years is a strong period for meme experimentation and a mutation of new memes and symbols. Infinite potential!

They will try the hardest to dumb them down and let they shut the fuck up. They fucking sucks. Narcisist assholes! Like everyone. They will be put down into submission. They'll switch polarities in their minds, ready for new memes after the new very adult traumas.

Maybe the only better soil for memes to form, reshape and spread are schizotypical people or high people.

Look, I feel that the whole stigma on schizotypical and drugs are bad people is a PSYOPS in itself.
A way for people to bottleneck complex memes that will put in question the way people see reality, and how fake reality can be. Because they block the idea that narrative is reality, and senses are deceiving and so relative.

Getting into this state of mind, where you KNOW what you are feeling, when you process information different, when the senses get more complex, when the insights are strong, vivid, and they talk straight to you, this is a option every mind have and can get to be in modern society.
Maybe you took to much drugs, maybe to much stress, maybe something genetic hit you, but if it wasnt all the things in its places you will never be who you are, with this exactly insight you have. And how offensive it is for the surroundings. Culture is schizo, society is schizo, morals are schizo, all very refined memes.

[Anonymous No.13873980]

>>13873212
Wait. So are you saying, that 'cogito ergo sum' is about as valid as posting a selfie?
That's fucking deep

[Anonymous No.13874289]

My love for life is every bit as intense as my lust
How to make your dreams come true: explore dreams as wildly and freely as you can.

[Anonymous No.13874324]

https://discordia.fandom.com/wiki/Discordian_American_Princess

[Anonymous No.13874340]

Oh boy, a story about an author who fantasizes about having actually written a story, the joke being that it's nonfiction and in that sense technically true, yet no less obnoxious. Let me guess, the final words will be "Chapter 1"?

[Anonymous No.13874367]

Who here kno de flo? De flo that gets the winnaz glo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TkmpeYOUYI
>Cruffatin: A word of unknown origin ingeniously used in the hip-hop song "Witness" (artist: Roots Manuva) - referring to a man-made hidden meaning, probably a South London word-mix of prophet and crocheting. Meaning: to make up a vision of the future and tell people about it without revealing everything at once by only feeding them encrypted information.
Who know The Next Movement?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm7Xt2Qsjcg

[Anonymous No.13874381]

>>13874340
Oh no, it's much cleverer than that. You see here's the story: https://pastebin.com/GnBgTU52 which ends with Chapter 2: How I Became A Reified Integral.

So here it is:

http://npirl.blogspot.com/2008/11/next-big-thing-in-virtual-worlds-that.html

[Anonymous No.13874383]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUqrHwX6xM8

[Anonymous No.13875081]

sounds gay and pseudy bro but i enjoy reading your cum anyway

[Anonymous No.13875178]

>>13875081
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS9Wl340pDg

[Anonymous No.13875237]

"Yu Yevon was once a summoner, long ago. He was peerless. Yet now he lives for one purpose: only to summon. He is neither good, nor evil. He is awake, yet he dreams. But... maybe not forever."

https://vimeo.com/127098837

[Anonymous No.13875275]

https://vimeo.com/129609470

https://vimeo.com/218908974

https://vimeo.com/262025984

[Anonymous No.13877057]

>>13870298
>I've met nobody
NObody here
I meet a lot of people
Please be more specific

[Anonymous No.13877065]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEI-NCTsiPE&

[Anonymous No.13877509]

Now that the 23rd is over, we can get REALLY political.

What is going to be the fallout of all of this? The political implications? They are of course ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE. However the absolute social chaos that will follow is not my problem, nor my concern. Exposing religion and capitalism for the anti-life monstrosities they are beyond any possible doubt is going to expose a great number of people to righteous hatred. And righteous it is: because the fuckers who push humanity towards Doomsday truly are the scum of the Earth, and only deserve the smallest part of it possible: a jail cell.

The Global Fascist Christian Capitalist Mafia will FALL HARD. Enjoy the heat of the World Flame War you deliberately fanned, fuckers <3

[Anonymous No.13877529]

ALL alt-rightist SCUM will be put into concentration camps until a jury of their queers figures out what to do with them.

[Anonymous No.13877555]

The right can't meme, all the can do is inspire nightmares. Leftism is made by dreams, and inspired by the world's greatest dreamers. We were never expected. Neither was I.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgkThdzX-8

[Anonymous No.13877583]

JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS OF BIGOTED ABUSERS. LOCK THEM UP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXsk5D-N3k

[Anonymous No.13877978]

Here is some of my pre-Aminom work on YTMND. It wasn't planned, which is how it always happens with me.

[Anonymous No.13877993]

>>13877978
The previous image was made for a tutorial: "How to make an average YTMND." It snowballed from there and became moderately popular because of it's self-referential absurdity.

[Anonymous No.13878003]

>>13877993
This is sort of "how to hide memetic influence."

[Anonymous No.13878019]

>>13878003
And of course if you have "how to hide influence" as the ruling praxis of rulers, it leads to a death-spiral of mass deception, which is exactly the current situation.

Fuck cowards who hide their intentions and actions while robbing, raping, and killing the world. They will be brought to justice and emprisoned.

[Miss Nobody No.13878324]

how the FUCK did 4chan did not realize that ANARCHISM IS DE WEY? I mean FUCKING DUH!

Oh yeah right the problem was fascist memetic action by convert agents of the underground global fascist cabal. Their activism is useless now, they have been revealed to be the clowns they truly are.

The future is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society governed by the highest inspirations of love and so governed by all. That's it, the minimal requirements for an acceptable future: a future that avoids the global doomsday device of capitalism. Again, fucking duh, for anyone who actually thinks, reads, feels, and dreams.

[Miss Strangelove No.13878971]

The intensity of my hate is every bit as strong as my love: it is necessary, for there are many who shit on everything I love: on humanity, on Earth, on life itself.

I WANT THEM TO EXPERIENCE THE MOST PAINFUL THING POSSIBLE: SELF AWARENESS.

Awareness of what miserable, life-hating and life-destroying degenerates they are. That they are cowards who have lived lives of professional cowardice because of their blind addiction to money and power.

IN THE END THE FASCISTS AND BIGOTS WILL LITERALLY KILL THEMSELVES OUT OF UNMITIGATED SHAME.

[Anonymous No.13879358]

>>13878971
self awareness is the best medicine

[Miss Nobody No.13879496]

It's so easy and obvious to understand in 4chan terms: the current Meme War is a troll war. Trolls trolling trolls all the way down, from politics to personal relationships.

I fucking hate it so much, it's the most stupid fucking bullshit. It literally ruins life, it's shitting on life, you fucking fools.

And so from my intense hatred for trolls, I found a way to out-troll them all. Pucker up butter-cups, mass self-awareness is coming.

[Miss Nobody No.13879510]

Enjoy the ban from civil society, fascist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFwEhQ2hyPQ

[Miss Nobody No.13879571]

This is a true story.
http://www.karlremarks.com/2013/04/study-confirms-that-lebanon-is-indeed.html?showComment=1386512604014#c7282132133830477717

[Anonymous No.13880593]

>You're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other.

-Carl Sagan, Contact

[Anonymous No.13880632]

>>13870298
Yeah, I'm like that, but I'm only into chicks

[Anonymous No.13880682]

>>13880632
So am I. I wonder who is more expressive?

[Anonymous No.13880717]

>>13880682
It doesn't really matter. The heart meme has already begun to function/fuck on a quantum level. Awareness in not essential. Everything now is just one of it's processes.

[Anonymous No.13880782]

>>13880717
Awareness is essential because questionability is essential. Awareness is self-questioning questionability. To have a truly autological or auto-epistemic process (learning how to learn,) awareness is necessary: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tao_of_Calculus/comments/9rpnrl/space_taoism_101/

[Anonymous No.13880797]

>>13880717
The will to love immediately presents the necessity to respond lovingly, and so brings up the problems of love. "The problems of love" are the problems of knowledge in the fullest sphere of problematic engagement. But love isn't a problem and is entirely unproblematic: problematicism emerges from experiencing the failure to find love.

So yeah, love is all you need, you can start from love, and indeed: that is the only place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMig

[Anonymous No.13881442]

https://medium.com/@timoteopinto/thegame23-creating-meta-narratives-as-a-hypersigil-within-a-larger-arg-scenario-for-personal-e8a69ddec83a

[Anonymous No.13881446]

Based word salad poster

[Anonymous No.13882616]

>posters: 15
>>13881446
>>13880632
>>13875081
>>13874340
>>13872716
>>13872687
>>13872018
>>13871594
>>13870797
>these posters are not you for certain
That's gonna be a yikes from me dog. Maybe go back to /x/? >>>/x/23457169
I am actually willing to have a coherent discussion about your beliefs and writings and what not, but jesus christ dude.

[Anonymous No.13883632]

This is a work of experimental philosophy and art. The subject is "change and creativity" which is very general. Ultimately it is a self-portrait comprised of many cross-referential self-portraits, as I can only speak for myself and about myself on matters of change and creativity. This corresponds to the view of the self not as a unified "story" or occasion of experience, but a nexus of living experiences: a story of stories.

[Anonymous No.13883661]

This section from "I am a Strange Loop" by Hofstadter reflects the thesis of a "story of stories" as "I host and am hosted by others": >>13873658

[Anonymous No.13883766]

>As a thinker, Whitehead is thus not so much the author of the sceme and the concepts he articulates as he was obliged by them, in a process of empirical experimentation-verification that is akin to a trance, because in it thought is taken, captured, by a becoming that separates it from its own intentionality. A "mechanical" becoming in the sense of Deleuze and Guattari, in the sense that thinkers can produce this thought only because they have themselves become a piece, or gear, of what has captured them, much more than they have created it. Thought is then no longer the exercise of a right but becomes an "art of consequences," consequences that leap from one domain to another, or, more precisely, that make interstices zigzag where a homogeneous right has seemed to reign, and make connections proliferate where "this was nothing to do with that" had prevailed.

-Isabelle Stengers, "Thinking With Whitehead."

That is why I had to "feel with creativity," that is, accept the capture and become a gear in the becoming of the memetic singularity.

[Anonymous No.13884019]

The worst possible strategy is to desire an infinite personal loss for zero personal payoff. To claim that such a strategy is optimal breaks game theory entirely.

This strategy is a process of self-transformation: the will to desire to suffer in hell infinitely for the cause of life. This inverts the Christian melodrama by suggesting that hell is the good and desirable place, and that the will to desire infinite reward is the pinnacle of degeneracy.

I call this process "The Phoenix Process" https://www.reddit.com/r/ShrugLifeSyndicate/comments/af6wzn/the_phoenix_process/ and it resolved my life-long struggle with extreme bipolar disorder. I experienced living hells of depression so extreme that I completely broke down in suicidal despair, as well as having experienced manic heights of bliss that are alluded to by religions.

This is very much related to the Game of Games: https://vimeo.com/124736839

And also finite and infinite games: https://taylorpearson.me/bookreview/finite-and-infinite-games-summary-quotes/

The Game of the Phoenix is something like a transpersonal game, beyond even the concept of an infinite game. One wants to "continue the play" even at the ultimate loss of one's own play. This ultimate self-sacrifice is not the ultimate strategy: there is a horizon beyond this, and it is of pure imagination.

[Anonymous No.13884260]

Have fun when this thread gets deleted as well.
It literally has nothing to do with literature

[Anonymous No.13884344]

call me back when a publisher pays you for this tripe OP.

[Anonymous No.13884581]

>>13882616
>Maybe go back to /x/?
Thanks for the recommendation, I took it and it led to a poetic experience.

The theme of the first day of this thread, the 23rd, was a "flight to the future," to become wholly-futuristic and non-political. The 24th was a re-landing in the hyper-politics of the present. Today the theme is about what is involved with love.

This is a piece that I wrote at the beginning of this year, when Whiteheadean thought began to blend with "the phoenix conjecture": https://old.reddit.com/r/ShrugLifeSyndicate/comments/aeq1tv/pancreativist_manifesto_the_message_of_universal/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/6n9vj8/the_phoenix_conjecture/

>>13884260
>It literally has nothing to do with literature
This heavily involves philosophy and philosophical thinkers, and works of literature. It involves what is involved with writing itself, and the art of writing. It is a multi-media work of experimental philosophy.

So tell me, how is this not incredibly relevant to literature?

[Anonymous No.13884932]

Never let anyone tell you the future you KNOW is possible - free from all abuse and exploitation - is impossible. Fuck their theories, fuck their science, fuck their projections. Fuck their arrogant false sense of certainty based on incomplete models that are so careless of deeper involvements that insist on being clarified. Never give up, keep searching, dreaming, growing, loving, and living as hard as you can, and aspire towards the future as brightly as you can.

[Eris Omniquery No.13885215]

I found this post on /x/, and it's beauty brought me to tears. Brilliant diamonds of life and love can be found even in seas of ugliness.

[Anonymous No.13885542]

>>13884019
Your post was worth the read and relevant to my life. Thank you for sharing.

[Anonymous No.13886008]

>>13884581
Okay I want an epic mind map of all works cited
Not really, but if you were looking for even more things to do...

[Anonymous No.13886154]

>>13886008
This is a nice idea and could greatly help explore all the different concepts and their intersections. I tend to do the least amount of organization I have to in order to keep moving, as any excess is waste. This is what draws me to formats like this: one can engage in a free-flow, leaving behind some traces to reflect on, by unable to be dominated by systematic procedure.

[Anonymous No.13886154,1]

>>13870298

I got this quote from a novel I found yesterday,

"My desired path is right in front of me if I succeeded. Why should I hesitate?"

I am glad you crossposted to /x/. Maybe it's me? I have been diving deep into hyperreality and Capital Realism. Your words and the intent behind them is harmonizing. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts. We are nearly there, the creative space is expanding to allow for conscious manipulation. Thinking of it as magic does it no help does it?

It is just so strange, I can definitely hear the rhythm, just never thought I would find anyone else so randomly.

[Anonymous No.13886416]

>>13886154
A fun incentive is also discovering the developmental journey that the different philosophies have undertaken throughout human history. I do that with theology a lot. It's all the same to me

[Anonymous No.13887466]

>>13886154
Yeah I mean here's the thing I don't think you're stupid, possibly mildly schizophrenic, but in order to not come across as either you need things organized sensibly, as it is now 90% of what you're posting is unintelligible. Mainly from jumping from topic to topic mid sentence, but even in your syntax and grammar structure.

[Anonymous No.13888712]

>Yeah I mean here's the thing I don't think you're stupid, possibly mildly schizophrenic, but in order to not come across as either
Why would I want to avoid such a characterization? I was first diagnosed by Bipolar 1 disorder in 2010, and every mental health worker I've worked with then has unambiguously given this diagnosis. The bipolar dialogue of extreme depression and mania is written at the core of my philosophy and worldview, projected as futurist speculation of two ultimate outcomes of human history, each a hyper-intensification of extremes.

The last thing I care about are the psychologically phobic normies. The problem with the world isn't disorder and chaos, but self-defeating order and the worship of permanence. The apparent disorder is merely the illusion of divergence for the purpose of power. Radical divergence is both the future itself, and the route towards it.

I have chosen the title "Change and Creativity: A Wild and Free Exploration of Discordian Dreams" for this present work. It is unavoidably a massive psychological self-portrait comprised of a bunch of self-portraits reflecting off of each other, presented as a "story of stories." This corresponds to how I see the society of myself, as well as the Whiteheadean thesis of the "many becoming one, and increasing by one" ( https://imgur.com/a/ZtLDYJT ) and the Hofstadterian thesis that "I host and am hosted by others." >>13873658

[Anonymous No.13888712,1]

>>13870298
I just came from /x/ and I have been looking for someone who is of a similar mindset to me, and one who could write just as well. You may be that person. It is going on six hours of me regretting that I didn't go through with trying to reach out from your initial post. I had written 3 responses and deleted them all. I hardly ever have tried to make contact in all my time on various chans, but I would love to chat if you are as similar to me as I suspect you to be. The feeling that there had to be at least one other was overwhelming me this week particularly. It's embarrassing for me to reach out like this but I don't want to continue wondering about what would happen if only I had. Kik:ExistentialSuicide

[Anonymous No.13888712,2]

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