Is English about to be killed?

[Anonymous No.13845665]

How much longer before English is a dead language?

[Anonymous No.13845680]

>>13845665
At least in the US you can see how ebonics are getting fused into english
Eventually will happen the same that happen to latin

[Anonymous No.13845694]

>please let me write like a retard

Please nuke america, its ok im ready to go

[Anonymous No.13845695]

English is very much a living language as your pic shows. Refusing to accept change will kill English, not growing and expanding

[Anonymous No.13845698]

>>13845665
American English was always heavily negrified, especially in the South. Americans should de-negrify their English as much as possible. Sadly, we're at a point where black English is becoming the most dominant English, such that you can hear it among prominent people in culture, media, academia, politics, etc. It didn't used to be that way! Sometimes it's hard to tell who is white and black just from hearing someone's voice. That is scary. And sadly the reverse rarely happens (a black person adopting a more strictly standard American English). I don't know what the future of American English will be, but I suspect it'll be a heavily negrified and dumbed-down English with a growing Spanish vocabulary ripped from Mexicans.

[Anonymous No.13845702]

You burgers must be getting so fucking tired of niggers... Jfc...

[Anonymous No.13845714]

>>13845665
I love how the implicit premise in this argument is that non-whites can't use proper grammar

[Anonymous No.13845722]

Gewrixlung sy á egesung æt hildlata

[Anonymous No.13845732]

>>13845665
And nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.13845738]

There are the same people that think math is racist....

[Anonymous No.13845740]

>>13845680
But English is already a shit tier language, you can't compare it with Latin. If you dumb down English, what remains? It already has no cases, complicated verbforms or any other things that would require a higher IQ than 20.

[Anonymous No.13845755]

No one cares.
No one is going to start caring.
They won't accept the same standards for themselves.
China will stay Chinese.
Your country does not exist for your group.
In 100 years no one will have an ounce of respect for you or your values.

[Anonymous No.13845763]

>>13845714
lol what a self own

[Anonymous No.13845767]

>>13845665
please let this be bait
>grammar is oppressive
>comes about naturally from people speaking the language
an intro linguistics class would tell you that

[Anonymous No.13845781]

>>13845714
and that all whites use proper grammar which is untrue.

in a way she's right though. grammar is generally understood in its prescriptive form. as a set of rules to delineate correct and incorrect usage. the consequence of this is social and class stratification. standards for literature are way different than those for speaking living english. not seeing this distinction is a sign you're a retard to anyone mildly intelligent

[Anonymous No.13845798]

>Hurr hurr I can't not speak the standard version of the language the intellectual strata uises!
>This be opreshun
No wonder everyone hates Afro-americans (or NIGGERS, as I like to call them.)
It's not about whiteness, it's about having a common ground.

Btw go to Hell OP for making a twitter thread. Making twitter threads should be a bannable offence.

[Anonymous No.13845810]

dude 1-"Grammar sucks, it's for white people."

dude 2-"Grammar predates white people you illiterate fuck."

groans all around

dude 2 - pic related

[Anonymous No.13845814]

>>13845781
Yeah, if this argument *has* to be made in some form, it would make a lot more sense to make it along class lines: Those with a poorer background have limited access to education (at least in America) and grammar should be more prescriptive in order to accommodate them better. It's still a weird argument though, since removing the prescriptive nature of grammar would be a slippery slope to different social classes literally developing separate languages.

[Anonymous No.13845818]

>>13845665
>white english
¿Qué?

[Anonymous No.13845826]

>>13845814
>should be more prescriptive
*should be more descriptive

[Anonymous No.13845828]

>>13845665
Soon enough...

[Anonymous No.13845864]

Truthnuke: AAVE is more expressive than current 'correct' speech, you feel me?

[Anonymous No.13845894]

>>13845864
You only think this because AAVE is the only English you're actually familiar with and sympathize with (in other words, you're a spiritual N word, ya feel?).

[Anonymous No.13845897]

>>13845665
>How much longer before English is a dead language?
Le plus tôt serait le mieux.

[Anonymous No.13845900]

>>13845798
>NIGGERS
Gonna steal this one

[Anonymous No.13845910]

>>13845665
>How much longer before English is a dead language?
Höchstens 5 Jahre. Ich schlage Deutsch als nächste offizielle Sprache von /lit/ vor.

[Anonymous No.13845919]

>>13845897
On peut toujours rêver, Maximilien.

[Anonymous No.13845920]

>>13845665
>anon number 89674235 complains about liberal academia
>no problem here
>black person does the same thing while using the word problematic
>!!!

[Anonymous No.13845930]

>>13845894
You know I'm right. Remember I said *current* English so you can't bring eg Keats in.

[Anonymous No.13845931]

>>13845665
one day you'll find out what the difference between a "dead" and a "living" language is and your post will seem really humorously misguided to you in retrospect.

[Anonymous No.13845948]

>>13845665

[Anonymous No.13845970]

>>13845910
Hört hört

[Anonymous No.13846026]

>>13845665
the funny thing is that apart from capitalisation her post is written in reasonably good grammar

[Anonymous No.13846039]

>>13845740
Exactly what the lad said. Just as Latin got dumbed down into vulgar Latin, the same will happen to English.
Things like final -s on 3rd person singular present verbs, irregular plurals inherited from German (child, children), participle verbs that don't end in -ed (swam, not swimmed itd.). These are just examples of things that could be simplified further as time moves on.

[Anonymous No.13846040]

>>13845665
Dont you ever get tired of making these threads?

[Anonymous No.13846073]

>>13845665
in your dreams paco

[Anonymous No.13846108]

>>13845665
They don't teach grammar in state schools here

[Anonymous No.13846125]

>retards can't handle language

it's amazing how accurate Idiocracy was

[Anonymous No.13846126]

>>13845767
Grammar is innate but there are certain rules that are made by the "Standardized" langiages. If you were right, we wouldn't have to learn grammar, which is the case. Ur wrong

[Anonymous No.13846160]

>>13846126
you don't have to "learn" grammar rules to speak with correct grammar. people absorb languages (and specific dialects like academic lingo) all the time just by being exposed to them, they don't have to know what a noun or a case or a tense is.

[Anonymous No.13846173]

>languages have rules
>as if language don't constantly change by people constantly disregarding the way the language was spoken in the past/present

You people have a strange and irrational attachment to something so ultimately arbitrary. Ebonics is as valid as Scots.

[Anonymous No.13846175]

>>13846173
I told you to stop posting here, guy with man bun from 2006!

[Anonymous No.13846180]

>>13846175
I wear a ponytail tyvm

[Anonymous No.13846207]

>>13845665
I don't see what there is to be upset about, a majority of the discussion on this board is teenagers who refuse to learn the meanings of the words, phrases, and key ideas of whatever it is they're flipping out over

[Anonymous No.13846213]

>>13845910
Oh Gott, bitte nicht. Deutsch ist eine schreckliche Sprache und ich benutze sie gerade ironisch. Es sollte grundsätzlich verboten werden, Deutsch zu sprechen

[Anonymous No.13846256]

>>13846160
Thanks for your garbled and multi-clausal sentences buddy.

[Anonymous No.13846258]

The frogs are suffering the same fate, even with their prescriptivist authority
https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2017/10/27/ecriture-inclusive-non-l-academie-francaise-ne-decide-pas-seule-du-bon-usage-de-la-langue_5206995_4355770.html

[Anonymous No.13846261]

>>13845665
Pidgin will be world language by 2040
>bbc.com/pidgin

[Anonymous No.13846275]

>>13845798
Let me help you there, friend.

[Anonymous No.13846307]

>>13846261
>implying pidgin isn't English
English now looks nothing like English from 700. Who cares.

[Anonymous No.13846608]

>>13846173
It's important to preserve the rules so that
old literature remains readable, that "Dryden doesn't become Chaucer"

[Anonymous No.13846655]

>>13846608
Why? Chaucer became Chaucer and the world continued to turn

[Anonymous No.13846741]

>>13845665
Seething untermensch retards have an unwarrented platform now because of social media. I wouldn't make too much out of it.

[Anonymous No.13846764]

>>13846213
Bring dich um du erbärmliches Arschloch.

[Anonymous No.13846774]

>grammar bad
>speak in grammar
she could've spoken in AAVE just to shit on whitey but she too much of a white boy lover to do they sheeit

[Anonymous No.13846822]

>>13845702
>You burgers must be getting so fucking tired of niggers... Jfc...
I don't think about them at all.

[Anonymous No.13846857]

>>13846608
neither of those would exist if french-speaking normans didn't invade the anglo-saxons and gallicize their tongue. would you sacrifice the entirety of post-1066 english literature just to preserve the readability of beowulf?

[Anonymous No.13846861]

English is killing all other languages, retard.

[Anonymous No.13846876]

>>13845818
Ehó mehmo, preehmo

[Anonymous No.13846895]

>>13845665
It's dying. The number of non native speakers outnumbers the native speakers.
This will unavoidably mean that simple and incorrect English will become standard due to sheer popularity. This will also affect art and literature.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13846903]

>English isn’t a language, it's three languages stacked on top of each other and wearing a trenchcoat
It can take more, don’t you worry

[Anonymous No.13846916]

>>13846895
>Doesn't Even Start Each Word With A Capital Letter
>Thinks He's Writing Correct English

[Anonymous No.13846951]

>>13845665
English is a shit langage. It only is spoken because anglo dominated the world for about a century.
Spanish seems easier.

[Anonymous No.13846966]

>>13845665
So is she saying poc can't speak/write properly? That's racist.

[Anonymous No.13846980]

>>13845920
There's a difference between acknowledging systemic problems in academia vs accusing fucking SAE GRAMMAR of being """"problematic.""""

[Anonymous No.13847001]

>>13845665
grammar problematic finna be hella

[Anonymous No.13847020]

>>13846895
joseph conrad learned english as a third language and if anything his prose was uniquely brilliant precisely because he was awkwardly self-translating from polish and french. a foreign perspective can expand the possibilities of english literature as non-native writers chafe against the constraints of english grammar, which is very simplistic when compared to something like the free word order of a slavic language. do you know of any other literary tradition where crucial figures are trilingual non-natives like conrad and nabokov? do you know of any anglos that became literary masters of russian or polish, overshadowing native writers? english stands to gain, not lose, from colliding with more sophisticated languages.

[Anonymous No.13847021]

>>13845665
English will never die. It's the default language for most branches of science, computer work, international relations, international trade and something like 80% of the internet is in english.

It's a self-fulfilling cycle, people learn english because everyone else speaks it, so everyone else learns it, etc etc.

Most likely it'll just get more and more mashed with other dialects eg pidgin and become some wierd hybrid bastard language

[Anonymous No.13847027]

>>13845665
>race as a mask for class conflict, episode 6391: libtard hears a "yo!"

[Anonymous No.13847034]

>>13847021
>become some wierd hybrid bastard language
>become

[Anonymous No.13847041]

>Prescriptivists
Consider suicide

[Anonymous No.13847044]

>>13846173
Scots isnt acceptable in academia either

[Anonymous No.13847063]

>>13845948
motion doesnt exist

[Anonymous No.13847066]

>>13846966

But sadly true.

[Anonymous No.13847067]

>>13845665
That's just logoslet cope. People evolved, in individual lives and as a species to their greatest heights by believing in true valor and virtue. Accuracy and consistency are among them.
I'm a lazy man, I've tried to weasel out of these before.

[Anonymous No.13847079]

>>13847044
That's just elitism.

[Anonymous No.13847128]

>>13847067
why would you care about the continued existence of the arbitrary mess that is english if you valued consistency? how do you even apply notions like "accuracy" and "consistency" to language when language changes arbitrarily based on cultural fads and political power? half of your current vocabulary are mispronounced french words. where's the accuracy?

[Anonymous No.13847135]

>>13846741
Worship of the written word is actually a Jewish and Muslim thing. What a simultaneously anti-Semitic and Islamophobic tweet.

[Anonymous No.13847139]

>>13847020
He was white

[Anonymous No.13847144]

>>13847135
god this board is filled with retards

[Anonymous No.13847165]

you know how in fantasy settings, everyone speaks what they call "common", but it's just English with a handful of unique regional accents and phrases?
yeah

[Anonymous No.13847189]

>>13847079
how?

[Anonymous No.13847212]

>>13845698
>Sometimes it's hard to tell who is white and black just from hearing someone's voice

this but when i read the comment sections

[Anonymous No.13847213]

>>13845665
AAVE actually has distinct grammar of its own, but this just shows how dumb these blackamoors, not even realizing that, and just admitting they don't kno shieet, in a language that already is dirt stupid and without governing authority - - !

[Anonymous No.13847218]

>>13847144
He's completely correct. If you mispronounce the qua'ran then you get beaten in traditional tutelage; Kabbalah = creation (magic, absolute will) is equivalent to ;The Word'
.

[Anonymous No.13847252]

>>13847139
most of the planet's nonwhites speak languages more complicated than english.

[Anonymous No.13847257]

>>13847020
1. Conrad was clearly an incredibly talented exception.
2. Nabokov was not trilingual. His Russian was shit and English was basically his native language.
3. If you don't believe me you can just watch it happen live at universities, in schools, and in public.

[Anonymous No.13847264]

>>13847252
That's actually wrong, English is easily one of the most complicated languages.

[Anonymous No.13847286]

>>13847189
The preference is arbitrary.

[Anonymous No.13847296]

>>13847257
>his russian was shit
wrong

he spoke french too and his french was also great.

[Anonymous No.13847300]

>>13847212
Twitter is probably the worst place, it's full of literally millions of whites larping linguistically as blacks.

[Anonymous No.13847301]

>>13847286
it's not. standard english is spoken by more people than scots, and thus is preferable

[Anonymous No.13847353]

>>13845781
Literature has never been so accessible. Anyone can find libgen, and that'll get you all you need to have a basic understanding of how to form a coherent sentence. Literally just read more.

[Anonymous No.13847367]

>>13847257
1. we're talking about literature, where incredibly talented exceptions are the only people who matter.
2. yes he was. he learned french and english early but russian was still his native language and he obviously wasn't "shit" in it considering he had a career as a writer in russian before switching to english.
3. casual speech is not the same as literary language. if vulgar language was poison to literature then none of the classics would have been written, it's not like the greeks spoke dactylic hexameter to each other at the market.

[Anonymous No.13847369]

>>13847020
The non-native English speakers he's worried about aren't exactly Joseph Conrad types.

[Anonymous No.13847372]

>>13847264
by what metric? the grammar is pedestrian

[Anonymous No.13847381]

>>13847264
The only remotely complicated thing about english is pronunciation, and it isn't that hard anyway.

[Anonymous No.13847387]

>>13845665
>Mark Twain writes in southern dialect
>"greatest writer of all time"
>Seamus Heaney writes in Irish dialect
>"greatest poet of all time"
>Alice Walker writes in African-American dialect
>"DUDE YOU'RE KILLING ENGLISH"

[Anonymous No.13847389]

>>13845665
I hope so nigfers and ebonics are helping

[Anonymous No.13847424]

>>13847300
twitter, youtube, 4chan, it´s everywhere

[Anonymous No.13847427]

>>13847424
This

[Anonymous No.13847442]

>>13847218
He's not correct at all. Most arabs are illiterate, inbred, and retarded. It was the Indo-Europeans whose lands were conquered by arabs that upheld the written word. Jews just memorize the same demonic book too, doesn't really count.

[Anonymous No.13847448]

>>13847301
"Standard English" isn't a thing anyone actually speaks.

[Anonymous No.13847449]

>>13847369
and was some random slang-speaking london lowlife a "joseph conrad type"? did his existence somehow prevent joseph conrad from writing literature? i'm not debating the fact that languages are changing because of course they always are, i just don't see how that would sabotage literary language, which always coexisted with the most vulgar speech of the streets and markets. people just have this skewed view of the past because they read some sophisticated poem without knowing how the author's contemporaries would have sounded getting smashed in a bar; or they can't even understand the vulgarity that gets preserved in the work, like how you won't notice pussy and dick jokes in shakespeare until a scholar points them out to you.

[Anonymous No.13847483]

>>13847387
>Mark Twain
>Greatest writer of all time
He's not even greatest American writer of his time period.
>Seamus Heaney
>greatest poet
Now you're just picking randoms to suit your shitty case and it's sad.
>Alice Walker
You have to search really far and fucking wide to even find someone who actually cares about her or what she writes.

[Anonymous No.13847512]

>>13847135

Checkmate

[Anonymous No.13847524]

>>13845665
i would like to point out how she literally looks like those brainlet wojack memes down to expression and physiognomy

[Anonymous No.13847526]

>>13847353
yeah it's true literacy is more widespread now than ever. however, you're thinking about literacy without any consideration for sociopolitical dimensions. just do X more is a very simple minded conclusion. don't you read? it doesn't seem like you do

[Anonymous No.13847554]

This is why non-whites have to go back. They have no interest in any aspect of our culture and their presence only threatens it. Nogs like this aren't really the problem though, the problem is the jews bringing them in.

[Anonymous No.13847586]

>>13847554
>import endless blacks to get free labor
>why are there blacks here now? must be the jews

alternative euro edition:
>conquer nonwhite subjects for your kingdom
>why are there nonwhites in my kingdom?

[Anonymous No.13847607]

>>13845665
someone with a twitter account tell her(?) to move that preposition away from the end of her sentence

[Anonymous No.13847630]

>>13847586
Jews owned most of the slave ships and did the most to import blacks back then just as they are doing now. You have to be a Boomer to have the internet and still be too retarded to understand the jewish problem.

[Anonymous No.13847657]

>>13847296
He even admitted himself his Russian wasn't good.

[Anonymous No.13847697]

>>13847387
Whites have talent and niggers dont, that's why you should be against the niggerization of English

[Anonymous No.13847701]

>>13847367
No, you idiot, you're missing the point entirely. If the general audience sucks at English and degrades it, those talented authors have a smaller and smaller audience and will eventually be pushed out of authorship altogether in favour of the increasingly bad. Who the fuck is reading Moby Dick in a nation of immigrants who can't speak the language? Only a minority of a minority and therefore the publishers will pass over the next Melville for the next Rupi Kaur or Nicholas Sparks.
>>13847381
>>13847372
English is far more complicated than the majority of other languages. Just try learning a non european language for fuck's sake. English routinely breaks its own rules and has far more exceptional cases than other non hybridised languages.
You can easily find this on surveys of bilingual people, where English is always highly ranked as a difficult language to master. Chinese by comparison is trivial except for vocabulary. Arabic and Persian have a large amount of challenges to vocabulary but their grammar is far easier than English. African languages might be challenging but who the fuck knows because barely anyone learns them anyway.
The Eastern European languages are the only languages that are more commonly considered hard or impossible to master for non native speakers.

[Anonymous No.13847727]

>>13847701
>Chinese by comparison is trivial except for vocabulary.
Lol look at the monolingual burgerposter shitting this thread up. English is a bastardized creole of Anglo-Saxon and French. It's a pleb tier language. The reason so many people speak it is, because it's easy as fuck to learn.

[Anonymous No.13847751]

>>13845665
>you don't need to speak "white" english to be successful
how realistic is this?
do black people actually think that speaking "white" english isn't going to give them an advantage in interviews or exams?

[Anonymous No.13847768]

>>13845740
English has one of the richest lexicons and lends itself well to poetry

[Anonymous No.13847776]

>>13845740
People think this because only the most debased forms of English are passed around today. Even those not particularly fond of English have admitted that acquiring good English prose is an immensely difficult undertaking.

[Anonymous No.13847779]

>>13847727
Well done, your record of all 100% of your posts being wrong is intact.
Chinese grammar is dead easy. There's no tense so conjugation just gets fucked. Just use simple modifying characters to change a clause into a past or passive tense etc. It's literally almost identical to what you'd get if you just simplified the simple SVO structure down to its bare bones.
Almost every single English speaker who tries Chinese immediately realises the grammar is as simple as can be. If you have a talent for memorisation of characters, which gets very easy with practice, then you're set aside from tones, and when you're speaking quickly even native speakers will slur a tone here and there so that gets done with practice too.
Ironically you're the one who's outing himself as not knowing anything about foreign languages, since if you knew anything about Chinese you'd know how it's a real paper tiger that people only think is hard until they try it.

[Anonymous No.13847790]

>>13846857
That entirely different since what occurred before that wasn't a civilized and gradual process of change with retention of the useful.

[Anonymous No.13847793]

>>13847727
Nobody is saying it's hard to learn, the argument is it's hard to master. Every single non native I've ever met admits this, and they almost never become capable of appreciating, much less creating, impressive prose.

[Anonymous No.13847799]

>>13847751
They unironically consider it racist.

[Anonymous No.13847801]

>>13847020
>english stands to gain, not lose, from colliding with more sophisticated langu
You seem to think your tongues have surpassed Shakespeare and Milton for the simple reason that they contain more arbitrary grammatical rules. Your'e confounding complication and depth. There are primitive tongues with a million complications but no depth.

This misconception arises from the fact that ESLs think the narrow modern thing they're learning is anything even remotely comparable to good English.

[Anonymous No.13847832]

>>13847799
Regardless of if that is true or not, that doesn't change the fact that it gives you an advantage.

[Anonymous No.13847837]

>>13847727
>The reason so many people speak it is, because it's easy as fuck to learn.
Lol retards with simple English really think they've mastered the tongue of Shakespeare

[Anonymous No.13847838]

>>13847448
it is though. it's not a vernacular dialect so it's not spoken commonly, but it would be hyperbolic to say that it is not spoken by anyone.

[Anonymous No.13847841]

>>13847367
You're being disingenuous since English was his first language, which he learned directly from a native speaker

[Anonymous No.13847861]

>>13847832
They also consider advantages and disadvantages racist.

[Anonymous No.13847871]

>>13847727
You can't even distinguish between burger spelling and British spelling, what the fuck would you know about this topic?

[Anonymous No.13847885]

>>13847657
no, he said that his literary output in russian was mediocre, not that he couldn't fucking speak it. he grew up in russia with russian parents and got published in russian, how could he have possibly not spoken his first language fluently?

[Anonymous No.13847891]

>>13847779
>Chinese is easy if you just ignore everything that makes it hard
Come on

>>13847837
>Lol retards with simple English really think they've mastered the tongue of Shakespeare
Have you?

[Anonymous No.13847916]

>>13847448
dont be obtuse. SAE and SSE are on the same dialect chain. scots and ebonics are not as mutually intelligible as any two SE varient. it's preferable to know some form of SE when writing for an academic audience.

[Anonymous No.13847925]

*laughs in Spanish*

[Anonymous No.13847947]

>>13845665
what the fuck's a poc?

[Anonymous No.13847959]

>>13847768
probably the reason why rappers rhyme "nigga" with "nigga"

[Anonymous No.13847962]

>>13847947
>what the fuck's a poc?
Stands for piece of crap

[Anonymous No.13847984]

>>13847387
Mark Twain writes it ironically. There is a distance between him and the speaker. Not often true in black lit.

[Anonymous No.13847993]

>>13847701
>If the general audience sucks at English and degrades it, those talented authors have a smaller and smaller audience
how did literature exist in societies where the "general audience" was not just vulgar but illiterate and destitute? the speech of the general population was always vulgar and the change you're observing has nothing to do with the language of the masses becoming more "degraded" and everything to do with literature being forced to compete on the market for the attention of the masses in the first place. moby dick loses to a video game anyway and the idea that it wouldn't if people's grammar was better is absurd. did the renaissance masters earn a living because all the peasants were super fucking stoked for perspective or because the paintings were comissioned by an educated elite?

[Anonymous No.13848000]

>>13845665
all languages have been dumbing down since the split from proto-indo-european

just ride the kali yuga and laugh at retarded zoomers and coloureds dumbing down an already incredibly simplistic language like english.

[Anonymous No.13848009]

This what you get for not having a language institute like the Académie française (for French) or the Real Academia Española (for Spanish). You literally dug your own grave, Angloids. Add to that the N factor (Niggers), which is the universal constant for shittiness, and you have yourselves a disaster.

[Anonymous No.13848013]

>>13847387
Literally no one says they're the greatest.

[Anonymous No.13848022]

>>13848009
are you implying that french isn't being destroyed by nogs?

[Anonymous No.13848027]

>>13845665
This is what you get for not having a language institute like the Académie française (for French) or the Real Academia Española (for Spanish). You literally dug your own grave, Angloids. Add to that the N factor (Niggers), which is the universal constant for shittiness, and you have yourselves a disaster.

[Anonymous No.13848046]

>>13845665
You dont speak the same english that was considered "proper" centuries ago so in a tiny way she has a point even though she's mostly just trying to excuse retardation. English especially is such a cucked language being derived from like 4 other things anyways and constantly being in flux.

I always think it'd be funny if the people complaining about ebonics would have conversations with their ancestors just a century back who would've caned them for talking like niggers just for using words and phrases like "cool" which was a nigger concept up until like 1950.

[Anonymous No.13848189]

>>13847993
Because the illiterates were excluded from the market and the wealthy literate were patrons of the artists.
Now that's changed and art must appeal to the lowest common denominator.

[Anonymous No.13848199]

>>13848046
It changes so let's dive right into the shallow end, great analysis.

[Anonymous No.13848208]

>>13847993
>how did literature exist in societies where the "general audience" was not just vulgar but illiterate and destitute?
Illiterates from 1600s often spoke a more varied and colorful form of English than many literates today. But the answer is that illiterate influence was limited by a controlling elite

[Anonymous No.13848212]

>>13847891
Learning Chinese characters is easy though. They all follow basically the same rules and have mostly fixed pronunciations, so it's really easy once you get the hang of it. Vocabulary really is the only major obstacle unless you really suck at tones and refuse to practice.

[Anonymous No.13848222]

>>13846741
Post the reply where another retard says that only YA should be taught in schools.

[Anonymous No.13848262]

>>13847063
Why not?

[Anonymous No.13848332]

>>13848212
Chinese is both easier and harder than it's made out to be. It's easier than it seems because, although, yes, there are oodles of noodles of noodly characters, they tend to follow patterns and are somewhat logical in their progression. It helps if you keep Chinese philosophical concepts in mind, like Confucian scholastics and ethics. It's harder than it's made out to be due to the plethora of homonyms and synonyms that you're only going to guess at their meaning by context.
>but tones solve that
When Chinese speak at a million words a minute they skip tones except when it's unclear to (fluent) Chinese speakers what word is what. To us, as Chinese-learners, it's frequently unclear which word they meant. Additionally, there are homonyms with the same tone. You'll be able to figure out which word they're using if they've provided good context. Or, more often, they're being poetic, and using double-meaning to make your brain hurt while you're figuring out whether they actually like this cafe or not.

English speakers also play this sort of word game, but if I'm being honest, most English speakers speak it at a fourth grade level and clever word play is beyond their ability.

[Anonymous No.13848388]

>>13845740
As any Classical-era speaker of Latin would say of French, Italian or Spanish lmao

[Anonymous No.13848408]

the absolute state of the angl*id cuck lmao just kys already faggots

[Anonymous No.13848414]

>>13848388
all those are more complex than English

[Anonymous No.13848420]

>>13848414
Kek

[Anonymous No.13848427]

>>13848388
and they were right, what's your point faggot?

[Anonymous No.13848592]

>>13847727
One could make this argument for almost all Indo-European languages, all of which are much simpler than the proto-Indo-European from which they are derived. The gradual loss of 'complex' grammatical features is commonplace in Europe's languages, hence why Italian, French and Spanish are all much simpler and far easier to learn than Classical Latin.

Interesting how French always gets lauded as 'pure' too, given that it is a debased provincial dialect of Latin as spoken by Celtic peasants under the Roman yoke, heavily hybridised with Germanic Old Frankish as spoken by the aforementioned Gauls' new masters from the Low Countries, to the extent that one-fifth of French's word-stock and also its grammar (as well as its name for itself, its speakers and their homeland) are loaned from non-Romance tongues. 5% even comes from English, meaning one-in-twenty words in French comes from 'l'anglais'

None of these languages is difficult to learn, just a few 'mathematical' tricks to help you memorise a few rules on gender/case/etc and you've mastered the oh-so-difficult bit. Is this what you think qualifies a language as 'non-pleb'? It seems to me that the main criticisers of English on this site are autists who find the mathematical aspect of language-learning appealing, and believe their ability to recall whether a rock has been arbitrarily defined as masculine or feminine in Latvian makes them Big Brain™. There is nothing that these other languages possess in terms of grammar that cannot be equally-well expressed in English through an expanded vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.13848600]

>>13845665
if you can understand what is being communicated then whats the problem? english is literally the language of medieval peasants

[Anonymous No.13848704]

>>13847367
>it's not like the greeks spoke dactylic hexameter to each other at the market

based

but also, ebonics is literally cancer because it does not come from an influence of two languages, it is the result of poor or no education in inner city black neighborhoods.

[Anonymous No.13848717]

>>13847727
>because it's easy as fuck to learn

You're right, it is easy as fuck to learn. But it is very hard to master. It's why you have immigrants who in old age still talk with an accent that is barely understandable even though they have lived in an English country for their whole life.

Easy in, hard to master.

[Anonymous No.13848722]

>>13847959

>probably the reason why rappers rhyme "nigga" with "nigga"

literally proving OP's point, that Ebonics is just a shitty cancerous splinter of English that has a tiny lexicon and is derived from not being educated.

[Anonymous No.13848758]

>>13848600

English as it exists today has only been around since the formation of the United Kingdom, so like 250 years or so.

Go back and read Shakespeare and tell me that is the same language as is being written on this board.

[Anonymous No.13848762]

>>13845738
How do they think math is racist?

[Anonymous No.13848779]

>>13848762

Because the ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

When people say that leftwing antics will literally be the fall of civilization as we know it, they are telling the truth.

There are whole generation of children being brought up to believe Math and Science are racist and oppressive, and apparently they also believe Grammar is oppressive as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14

[Anonymous No.13848788]

>>13848758
>Go back
I think you need to go back and you don't need to be told where.
Also if you can't understand Shakespeare then you just don't understand modern English as well as you think you do. Most of Shakespeare should be quite understandable to /lit/, at the very least you should be able to follow the gist of the lines without any strain

[Anonymous No.13848823]

>>13848788
Shakespeare is quite understandable, but that was not the point.

You said that English was medieval peasant language and I pointed out that English did not exist at that time. By Shakespeare's time (the renaissance, hundreds of years past the medieval period) English has already morphed, then it continued to morph into what it is today.

[Anonymous No.13848836]

한국어 말합시다...

[Anonymous No.13848874]

>>13845665
Academic Written English is a dialect independent of “white” and “black” English, which are both “problematic” constructs because they negate the existence of other black and white voices.

[Anonymous No.13848912]

>>13847128
I don't value consistency.

[Anonymous No.13848937]

>>13848758
This.

[Anonymous No.13848963]

I get too self conscious about my grammar to post in these threads seriously.

[Anonymous No.13848980]

>>13848717
they never wanted to idiot
most people only learn it for the pragmatic opportunities they don't a fuck about english lit and other nonsense

[Anonymous No.13849008]

>>13848420
they are. English is literally the easiest language to learn. I'm writing English sentences and I didn't even go to school.

[Anonymous No.13849020]

are there books for analyzing languages

[Anonymous No.13849050]

>>13845698
whats the non niggerlicious version of 'or something'? it's constantly stuck in my head

[Anonymous No.13849100]

>>13847128
>half of your current vocabulary are mispronounced french words
And French is mostly mispronounced Latin, with garbled grammar due to the heavy influence of Old Frankish (which also contributed many words that are now mispronounced)

[Anonymous No.13849143]

>>13847586

[Anonymous No.13849148]

>>13847630

[Anonymous No.13849155]

Please, read Authority and American Usage.

[Anonymous No.13849169]

>>13845665
This is ironic because in the 90s there was a push to make ebonics the standard mode by which blacks were taught. Big spoiler, it didn't work. History repeats itself, and we're seeing the same thing with the cyclical push for integration (inter-district busing, etc.) and segregation within the school system. Really pretty silly.

[Anonymous No.13849177]

>>13847959
lel you really don't think there might be something else there mediating that?

[Anonymous No.13849183]

>>13847387
Twain wrote in numerous dialects that were not his own, which is much more to his credit than someone who writes only in their own.

[Anonymous No.13849194]

>>13848762
Because outcomes are different on standardized testing, average GPAs, etc. They operate from the premise that we're all the same, therefore if differences in outcome exist, the process must be biased. The thought that the inputs are not the same doesn't even and cannot occur to them.

[Anonymous No.13849227]

>>13845919
À bas les Anglophones camarade

[Anonymous No.13849244]

>>13848836
마자!!!

[Anonymous No.13849569]

>>13847449
m8 I was just implying that the other poster wasn't worried about white people like Conrad.

[Anonymous No.13849648]

>>13845665
I'm a little stoned so bear with me. Throughout European history, the intellectuals had their own language: latin. You could be some pollack and enjoy your intellectual pursuits while corresponding to other experts in your field in latin. Plebs need not apply.Now, this is very is similar to written chinese. Chinese people in the past, could barely understand their fellow chinese that lived just over the the hills due to their dialects (look up how different chinese dialects sound if you need more proof) hoever the few literate chinese could still speak to each other through their written language. The remains of this can still be seen today when Hong Kongers can read Beijinger's weibo posts but can't speak to each other. While I have no problems with people writing in their dialect, if this becomes the norm then the average reader will just avoid reading "non-white" english as the semantic drift increases cognitive load and it's just not worth it. This is how we become unintelligible to each other . Yes, let the people write like they speak but let us anime-board postin' mongoloids speak WASP. roast me plz

[Anonymous No.13849674]

>>13845680
This is true.
>>13845665
As the English language becomes more impoverished, so too will our ability to think critically.

[Anonymous No.13849714]

>>13849648
>Throughout European history, the intellectuals had their own language: latin. You could be some pollack and enjoy your intellectual pursuits while corresponding to other experts in your field in latin.
Sounds about right. French was also the llingua franca of Europe for a while though, after Latin was.

[Anonymous No.13850012]

>>13848823
>you
I don't know if you realise this but not every anon is the same person here.
Middle English really isn't substantively different to modern English aside from minor changes in grammar.

[Anonymous No.13850080]

>>13845698
>Sometimes it's hard to tell who is white and black just from hearing someone's voice.
yea if you're fucking autistic as shit.

[Anonymous No.13850180]

>>13846655
With one masterpiece less readable. The language changing has these drawbacks, but it has very little positive to it, we should keep it as it is
>>13846857
Yes, if I had lived in 1066

[Anonymous No.13850197]

>>13847586
>conquer nonwhite subjects for your kingdom
Many Euro countries were never imperialistic.

[Anonymous No.13850329]

>>13845910
Ausgezeichneter Vorschlag mein Freund. Wirklich ausgezeichnet!

[Anonymous No.13850379]

Black people were a mistake

[Anonymous No.13850421]

>>13847630
You know, I’ve looked up a bunch of these people and ships and pretty much every result is a website called like “jewsdidslavery.com” or something

[Anonymous No.13850599]

There was an article in the Atlantic about a NYC liberal who found out that his kid's school has pretty much removed all basic standards to accommodate niggers and he can't understand what' happening. Hopefully these people experience what poor southerners did soon enough.

> Packer is a committed liberal who boasts of his kids’ multiracial friends and woke politics.Yet, Packer is disturbed by what he has seen over the past five years: His kids’ education heavily emphasizes slavery and colonialism, but ignores civics; white privilege indoctrination is everywhere; Left-wing activism is championed as the epitome of virtue; and racial identity is encouraged, with some schools dividing students into race groups.

>But Packer is most outraged by the abandonment of meritocracy. He can’t believe schools would drop standardized testing and other basic academic requirements. He knows whites and Asians do best in these categories, and that it makes schools less diverse; he just wants the diversity and the meritocracy. By contrast, New York City’s progressive leaders have decided diversity is more important than merit.
>This has made Packer wary of identity politics. While he fawns over diversity and insists his kids need to be surrounded by a comfortable number of non-whites, he’s had enough of the race talk. He was disturbed when his daughter told him she wishes she wasn’t white because of slavery.
https://www.counter-currents.com/2019/09/we-cant-go-back-to-the-80s/

[Anonymous No.13850791]

>>13845740
These things are positive. Grammar for the sake of grammar is terrible. English has a few problems like confusing singular and plural second persons but removing the useless filler was a great idea. For instance verb declination in a language where you explicitly mention the person by pronoun. Entirely useless.
t. native speaker of a language with gorillonz of cases.

[Anonymous No.13850822]

>>13850791
Normally you find that as a language spread, or as migrants come into a land, the language tends me simplified. For example, English was simplified upon the Norman conquest. Arabic was simplified as the early caliphates expanded. Latin was simplified as it spread across the empire.
Grammar for the sake of grammar is great because it shows lineage and not a crossing of mutts.
t. Speaker of a language with several cases

[Anonymous No.13850853]

>>13850822
You don't even pretend to defend convoluted grammar itself which is what I am talking about.
Purposefully keeping retarded rules to prove to yourself that you have a identity is even worse. Doing the opposite is why English has such high information density.

[Anonymous No.13850877]

>>13850853
But then, English has this stupid semi-phonetic spelling system as a weakness, and if you started telling everybody to spell the word cough as coff or thorough as thuhruh there might be a degree of backlash.

[Anonymous No.13850885]

>>13850853
But no rule is retarded. That's the point of mother tongues. No matter how complex the grammar is, native speakers will always learn it perfectly. It's only foreigners that'll struggle with learning it as a an L2. Finnish is a perfect example of this. Foreigners may spend three decades learning it, and still they won't sound perfectly native at all times.
No matter what exception exists, native speakers will remember them.

[Anonymous No.13850921]

>>13845897
Basé et rougepilulé mon ami

[Anonymous No.13850959]

>>13845810
He cute

[Anonymous No.13851012]

>>13850885
>native speakers will always learn it perfectly

[Anonymous No.13851020]

>>13846307
>implying pidgin is anything other than OOGAA BOOGAA MUH DICK bastardization of english

[Anonymous No.13851021]

>complaining about degrading language when 99% of the users here use the term "based" and copy whatever black twitter words are popular

[Anonymous No.13851040]

>>13851012
>>13851020
>>13851021
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.13851079]

>>13846256
Which is his point. He can be completley understood, even when using:
>garbled and multi-clausal sentences

[Anonymous No.13851727]

>>13847925
*jaja

[Anonymous No.13851886]

>>13845665
You can write however you please but I'm still failing you if your essay is unintelligible.

[Anonymous No.13851923]

>>13851040
based

[Anonymous No.13852044]

>>13845814
>Those with a poorer background have limited access to education
literally everyone has access to the internet. that's all that is necessary.

[Anonymous No.13852079]

>>13850421
and?

[Anonymous No.13852087]

>>13845665
maybe 1000 years. i dont think languages will evolve so quickly as they have in the past because we have too much written data and information we need to understand.

[Anonymous No.13852093]

>>13851012
Yes they do. Have you got any instances to the contrary?
Note: written forms aren't part of the language. Written language is an adaptation of the standard language, which is an adaptation of the language that we all learn as children. So before you go "People don't know the difference between there and their. Checkmate", I consider you actually think for a bit

[Anonymous No.13852188]

>>13846822
First you move to a quiet town in New England. Then you get a job that is both technical and not flashy. Then you get rid of your TV. Then you homeschool your kids. But one day, you go to the local library, and look on the "New Children's Books" shelf, and...

[Anonymous No.13852253]

>>13850599
checked. to be clear to anyone who didn’t click the link, this isn’t what packer said, it’s how the website paraphrased him

[Anonymous No.13852270]

>>13845665
> poc
I always read this as "potz", makes reading SJW bile hilarious.

[Anonymous No.13852274]

>>13847020
>english stands to gain, not lose, from colliding with more sophisticated languages.
Only the overwhelming majority of English learners are from China and India. Their native languages are not more sophisticated than even American English

[Anonymous No.13852291]

>>13847286
Scots and Ebonics are bastardizations, barely dialects, of a standard English

[Anonymous No.13852622]

Brainlet inbred muzz finds proper English too hard.
Stick to your own language and culture and country then, you gormless cunt.
You have no write to ruin MY language because you are too retarded to learn it.

[Anonymous No.13852633]

>>13852622
I remmeber when i was like 20 and that thought first occurred to me about the concept of 'indigenous people'. There are presumed to be simply no indigenous European people at all. The English, the French, the Norwegian, they aren't considered indigenous, even though everywhere else on earth the people get to call their land their own. Made me very angry for a few years, but I dont really see the point in being mad anymore.

[Anonymous No.13852658]

>>13852633
>There are presumed to be simply no indigenous European people at all.
Absolutely false.
Many Turkish ethnic groups are considered to be "indigenous" to Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indigenous_peoples#Europe

[Anonymous No.13852704]

>>13846258
Isn't the bigger problem over there how extremely prescriptive they are and even try introducing made up words to keep English ones out (which off course normally fails spectacularly)?

[Anonymous No.13852718]

>this thread is still up
>224/21/128/
Disgusting. Why the fuck do you retards respond to twitter screencaps? Are you actually all 2 digit IQ knuckledragging retards?

[Anonymous No.13853335]

>>13845665
Considering how technology and social media, along with its users retardness, is evolving exponentially.
2025.

However, proper English will still be part of high society, therefore the only way to be part of the wealthy and the intelligentsia is to write like a current professor of English writes or so.
Kind of similar as to how religion is starting to become part of high society, see how most in Washington D.C. still attend church, especially that one Catholic church who still does high church stuff.

[Anonymous No.13854717]

>>13845665
no, its just going to be turned further into pidgin speak/patois and merge with other trade languages like spainish and chinese

[Anonymous No.13854731]

>>13845680
As long as the language evolution occurs naturally and not through force like the left is attempting with gender pronouns I believe we can trust that it'll do no serious harm. Does anyone disagree?

[Anonymous No.13854737]

>>13852718
>knuckledragging

[Anonymous No.13854769]

>>13850599
I thought northern states figured how to segregate years ago with things like AP and IB

[Anonymous No.13855103]

Stupid individuals with personal gripes won't have an effect on the preservation of the language. It's not dependent on schools either. Language has now been catalogued and preserved more than ever through the internet. Sure people may communicate more vernacularly at times, but the formal way is available to look up at everyone's fingertips through a variety of online tools and resources.

[Anonymous No.13855111]

keep chopping away at the foundations of the structure you stand on

[Anonymous No.13855124]

Poetical styles might become less common but really even popular music is at times inherently poetic and melodic.

[Anonymous No.13855131]

>>13845665
you can't make this shit up lmao

[Anonymous No.13855160]

>>13849674
This though, I shudder to think what a life would be like with a limited range of expression.
>Dis be bad but dis be big bad. Dis be a bigger badder bad than all bad.

[Anonymous No.13855227]

This idea that people need to speak/write English a certain way is a ploy to keep poor oral communicators from thriving in academia. You don't need to speak "right" English to be successful,
ftfh

[Anonymous No.13855231]

>>13850599
>his daughter told him she wishes she wasn’t white because of slavery.
holy shit
That is fucking disgusting that schools are doing that to white kids

[Anonymous No.13855282]

I'm tired of being anglophone. How long to learn another language fluently enough to write novels in it?

where is the book market undersaturated? korea?

[Anonymous No.13855318]

>>13845665
Grammar is primarily a tool for legal documents so that they can be interpreted strictly. Court cases have been won over a comma.

[Anonymous No.13855326]

>>13855160
doubleplusungood

[Anonymous No.13855327]

>>13855282
Learn some North Caucasian language like Chechen or learn an indigenous American language like Quechua and contribute to Amerindian revival.

https://youtu.be/r4q9aeAqYEM
https://youtu.be/JH6adfJtK8o

[Anonymous No.13855347]

>>13855326
>double, plus, un-
It's more-more more no-good

[Anonymous No.13855447]

POC can be tolerated not speaking proper English when DCP are tolerated not speaking proper Somali.

[Anonymous No.13855516]

>muh language should change to my snowflake needs
No. Fuck you. Language does not give any single fuck about your snowflake feelings. Keep your filthy descriptive grammar in the dialects which niggers and subhumans who wish they were a nigger use and fuck off.

[Anonymous No.13855589]

>debating americanigger english
Let american english die. UK English is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.13855701]

>>13854731
yo u b sayin that write+ing lik this is no problem dawg? cuz is organic senpai?
dem niggaz be wildin bruh

[Anonymous No.13855712]

>>13855589
تمتص ديك هاها

[Anonymous No.13855713]

>>13845698
this. even the whitest kid that lives in the suburbs speaks like a nigger, even non-Americans speak like and write like niggers thanks to twitter. I dont know if they do it to be ironic or what

[Anonymous No.13855750]

>>13846903
>butthurtrfly niggerlover

I wonder how can you reconcile your love for Nietzsche and your support for Untermensch opinions?

[Anonymous No.13855768]

>>13845665
Is she wrong? Commuincation is key and most people speak at a 3rd grade level. Look at Trump for example.

[Anonymous No.13855773]

>>13845665
I fucking hate the word Problematic so god damn much

[Anonymous No.13855785]

>>13852622
i'm british and i don't agree with you, don't think you speak for us mate

[Anonymous No.13855817]

>>13855768
>we should go from 3rd grade level to preschool level

[Anonymous No.13855877]

>>13855817
americans love it, they dislike abstracts in daily life. in the future people will talk in only memes that function as a kind of magic superseding language.

[Anonymous No.13855901]

>>13855768

>people are stupid so we should dumb everything down across the board

yes I would describe this as a wrong opinion

[Anonymous No.13855926]

>>13855901
Stupidity would be talking to your audience wrong.

[Anonymous No.13855932]

>is the biggest language in the history of humanity about to be killed?
>250+ replies
absolute retards

[Anonymous No.13855939]

>>13855926

stupidity would be courting an audience too stupid to understand what you're saying without dumbing it down in the first place

[Anonymous No.13855945]

>>13855939
i agree ? that doesnt really go against what im saying.

[Anonymous No.13856202]

>>13855932
>is the greatest empire in history falling apart?

[Anonymous No.13856350]

>>13852658
>Turkic
Arrived from Asia in the middle ages
>Finno-ugric
Arrived from Asia in the metal ages

So the best way to become indigenous to Europe is to be a recent immigrant. Soon the Arabs will be considered indigenous.

[Anonymous No.13856524]

>>13845930
What 'current English'? There are plenty of Englishes many of them more divergent than AAVE. In fact, everything in AAVE just comes from English dialects in England, to Southern USA, to blacks. The most divergent are those that have been divergent for a thousand years. That said, I hate prescriptivism because it has no basis and stunts development.

[Anonymous No.13856543]

>>13847020
Yeah nah. I see wrong, awkward and unskilled English on a daily basis online. Grammar means little, the main thing is knowing the particularities of words and their subtle senses and applications, which non-natives do not. They simplify and destroy its currents. Sophistication is meaningless if even a point when you simply don't know a language well enough to use it properly. You contribute to content in it that is of lower and lower quality as non-natives influence non-natives.

[Anonymous No.13856566]

>>13856543
>Grammar means little
>the main thing is knowing the particularities of words and their subtle senses and applications
Uhh, you appear to be describing some hella high level ESL there nigga

[Anonymous No.13856714]

Wardine be cry

[Anonymous No.13856839]

To better prove her point she should have written something like "yo yo whasshannen wazzgoodwiddit nomsayin bruh you feel me riiiiii---
Now dem whiteys be tryna keep they lil ol white folk talk all separate n sheeeeeit n it's why I be havin no job nomsayin feeeeelmebruh riiiiii---

[Anonymous No.13857517]

>>13856202
The language of a great empire outlives the empire.
But keep screeching, I guess that's the only thing people here find any purpose in.

[Anonymous No.13857525]

>>13845740
>But English is already a shit tier language
>'shit tier'

You are contributing to its degradation.

[Anonymous No.13857763]

>>13845665
kfd.jfgv ,fypp8fr65e43
9843[]]l./.2-0885kjbhvoGYHihbUIY&
HY' ' 098753=085434T^Y
H873h3333

[Anonymous No.13857819]

>>13847701
Imagine unironically thinking this. Go learn Arabic or Chinese or Persian then you dumbfuck, there's a reason English is so popular and it's not just because the Brits and Americans have shilled it for centuries, if Chinese were the global language literally 50% or more of potential speakers wouldn't even bother because it would be too difficult. English may have retarded rules but a 9 year old Congo pygmy with a single 1940s textbook could learn it in a week. I didn't even finish high school or ever even properly study it but I speak English fluently because it's criminally easy

[Anonymous No.13857843]

>>13847727
Why do yuros call English a mutt language when every other language has influences from at least 2-3 as well? Unless you speak classical latin you're probably a mutt speaker too

[Anonymous No.13857860]

>>13855327
>learn an indigenous American language like Quechua and contribute to Amerindian revival.
If you did this, you'd be accused of cultural appropriation and your literary career would be permanently finished.

[Anonymous No.13858196]

>>13855877
>they dislike abstracts
The word is "abstractions" my little eurotard

[Anonymous No.13858203]

>>13855589
pure delusion, british english is simple journalese now with no distinction

[Anonymous No.13858251]

>>13845665
English is very much alive and well, it is taught all around the world as a second language. But culture is downstream of biology. When the last people of European descent are absorbed into the brown tide and world civilisation is finally sent irrevocably downward into a more African style of decline, the darker persons that replace us will wander about the ruins of Europe speaking English. They just won't speak it very well.

[Anonymous No.13858270]

>>13845698
You've got it backwards. Ebonics is just heavily Americanized English.

[Anonymous No.13858360]

>>13857860
Just stick to translation.