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13844665 No.13844665[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

How do your beliefs square with the existence of feral children?

Children who run off or are abandoned from as young as 3 months to as old as 9 years. They join an animal "tribe" and act as if they were that animal. Wolves, dogs, sheep, bears, birds, crocodiles, monkeys. Completely isolated from civilisation and other humans. When they're eventually found and brought back to human civilisation they often display the following traits:
>Almost insurmountable difficulty learning human language, most failing to learn even basic communication
>Trouble learning to walk on two legs after running on all fours for years
>Complete ignorance of social etiquette or taboos, they will bite or growl, they don't know how to smile, they have no concept of morality and little empathy
>They give the impression of being mentally impaired but seem to possess a form of consciousness
>Physically incapable of using a toilet
>Prefer food raw and uncooked
It's an interesting example of just how much of human behaviour and belief is taught rather than innate.

>> No.13844684

There is no individual before society.

>> No.13844688

>>13844665
I'm not sure, OP. Good question. How do you think about it?

>> No.13844691

Who woulda thought your being in the world would influence your being in the world

>> No.13844703

>>13844691
Did you have a stroke?

>> No.13844713

you mean jungle children?

>> No.13844754

>>13844665
Most of the fertile child stories come from rural places in Asia and are sensationalised. The only unspecialised child that has been extensively studied, to my knowledge, is Genie, and she was able to be resocialised, though she did suffer immense trauma and social retardation.

>> No.13844759

>>13844665

You made all that up though. What's your source for these claims? What feral children are you actually referring to?

>> No.13844763

>>13844759
Go away moron

>> No.13844769

>>13844754
Unsocialised*
Phoneposting

>> No.13844782

>>13844754
>fertile child stories
i like these kinda stories

>> No.13844784

>>13844782
Fuck off im phoneposting

>> No.13844788

>>13844759
Go read.

>> No.13844798

>>13844784
fuck you fag

>> No.13844803

>>13844703
The nothing nothings the nothing

>> No.13844806
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13844806

Does this guy count ?

>> No.13844811

>>13844788
>>13844798
Can't we all just get along? This behaviour is truly feral

>> No.13844872

>>13844759
Fuck off you don't need a source for everything

>> No.13844916

>>13844665
They prove that language is an essential part of Intelligence, learning it at an early age fundamentally transforms the brain, so much that without that first step, its pretty much impossible to learn "normal" human functioning.

>> No.13844920

What do you mean how do my beliefs square with the existence of feral children? About as well as they square with the existence of the potato lmao. Who gives a shit?

History tells us that Enkidu lived like an animal until he got laid, and then he decided to enter human society. Has anyone tried waiting until the feral child grew up then fucking its brains out?

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13844941

>>13844665
>It's an interesting example of just how much of human behaviour and belief is taught rather than innate.
Belief is immanently realized, and behaviour is manner of expression; behavioural patterns, and belief systems, may be learned, and emulated.

>> No.13845000

>>13844665
technics (including language) and social arrangements are evolutionarily adaptive and give us more effective means of procuring energy and channeling urges. the need for energy is still innate. the urges are still innate. young human brains try to imitate those around them in order to give themselves the best chance to procure energy and channel urges, and at the point that our brain stops growing the basics of what we've learned crystallize and are difficult to alter without significant conscious effort. none of this should surprise anyone, and it doesn't jive with schoolyard tabula rasa ideas like you suggest.

>> No.13845055
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13845055

man understand bear mad at stinging honey bees. man know snake without need to know snake. you insect men want to deny instinct as excuse to teach rainbow society values to helpless young ones so they make good prey for your psychic vampire pedophile elites, but human will and instinct go much deeper and will break the chains you shackle us with.

>> No.13845067

>>13845000
You insult OP and try to sound intelligent but you're talking complete bollocks. No one cares who you are, stop treating this board like your toilet, pseud moron.

>> No.13845072

>>13844941
>Belief is immanently realized
The feral children prove that is not true.

>> No.13845086

>>13844941
so wise, tell me more oh wise one

>> No.13845098
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13845098

It just confirms that everything he said is true,

>> No.13845106

>>13844684
fpbp

>> No.13845107

>>13844754
That wiki page was the most fucked up thing i read for a good few years of my life.

>> No.13845110

>>13845098
Like?

>> No.13845111

>>13845072
You ignore what is "belief".

>> No.13845115

>>13845111
I use the real meaning of belief, don't bastardise it to explain your schizophrenic delusions of a higher power.

>> No.13845119

>>13844665
Welcome to /lit/: /lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.

>> No.13845130

>>13845115
So, you ignore the concept, and meaning of belief even as it is used in mundane vernacular.

>> No.13845144

>>13845107
would you recommend?

>> No.13845146

>>13845110
That we are beasts, civilised stepwise by thousands of years of history, and that if this civilisation process is suspended we regress immediately to our primal state.

>> No.13845153

>>13845130
No one uses it like you and your idiotic friends do. Take your delusions elsewhere.

>> No.13845154

>>13845067
all this seething and no argument in sight. humans can't be reduced beneath the irreducible, sorry about ur tendies tho.

>> No.13845157

>>13845154
>no argument in sight
You can't argue against something that doesn't even make any sense, you just strung a bunch of barely related sentences together and acted like it was profound. You're an idiot.

>> No.13845161

>>13845157
it made perfect sense, you are just a wishful bugman who doesn't know anything about anything

>> No.13845166

>>13845161
mmhmm, you can fuck off now pseud retard

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13845170

>>13845166
>mmhmm

>> No.13845197

>>13845146
Very based, i want to read The New Science at some point.

>> No.13845240

>>13845197
Read Finnegans Wake while you're at it