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books on losing your faith?

>> No.13843911

>>13843903
Highschool is tough, huh op

>> No.13843921

>>13843903
I've read so many books about people finding faith, but I can't name any about losing it. It seems like an interesting topic for a book.

>> No.13843922

>>13843911
Top kek

>> No.13843926

>>13843903
The God Delusion.

>> No.13843929

>>13843903
probably Camus, Kafka or Beckett idk
Dostoevsky talk about losing faith but he always portrays it as a very negative thing and contrasts it with finding faith

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>>13843903
How about a book on gaining it

>> No.13843953

>>13843903
The Silmarillion

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>>13843903
my diary desu tbrqhwy family

>> No.13843961

>>13843903
San Manuel Bueno, Mártir

>> No.13844013

If you’re ok with reading fiction, Night by Elie Wiesel

>> No.13844024

>>13844013
The scene with the mastubation machines really broke my immersion

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>>13843903
The Antichrist

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>>13843903
Koran

>> No.13844478

>>13843903
One does not lose Faith - one loses hope. Hope pertains to transient mundane wish; Faith pertains to constant vision, and knowledge, of eternity.

>> No.13844479

>>13843903
Dark night of the soul

>> No.13845577

>>13843903
NOOOOOOO
God, How can you be real if mom keeps being a bitch and telling me to mow the lawn. If you were real you'd let me play fortnite and smoke weed all day!

>> No.13845602

Anything by Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Stirner

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>>13845577

>believing in things for which there's literally zero empirical evidence makes you a big boy adult

>> No.13845625

>>13845613

The empirical evidence for God is faith. But if you haven’t experienced faith then this won’t make sense.

>> No.13845629

>>13845625

No, that's merely insisting that a proposition is true without presenting any evidence for it

>> No.13845631

>>13843911
Jesus you killed him man

>> No.13845866

>>13845629

Again, the evidence is in faith itself. If you don’t have faith it won’t make sense, but people with it have made this fact known for centuries now.

“To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” - Thomas Aquinas

>> No.13845877

>>13845866

Based on that reasoning, that would also make Islam true

>> No.13845882

>>13843903
The Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man

>> No.13846035

>>13844025
oh nonono here comes the misinterpretation that Nietzsche was a pessimist

>> No.13846596

>>13845877

Lol I am Muslim so, yeah, it fully corroborates Islamic thought of faith. "Those whom Allah guides, none can misguide them, both those who He does not guide, none can guide them" (i am paraphrasing but this is the gist of the ayat)

>> No.13846738

>>13843903
"Don Manuel Bueno, Mártir", by Miguel de Unamuno. It's about a priest who loses his faith and struggles to regain it with no success. However, in order to maintain the high spirits of his simple and humble tiny town, he pretends to still believe for the sake of his people. The author went through a similar experience, so it is biographical and not entirely fictional.

>> No.13846820

>>13845866
There’s overwhelming evidence that the cognitive mechanisms that produce “faith” are epistemically unreliable.

>> No.13846989

>>13846820

Lol alright man idk what to tell ya

>> No.13847003

>>13846035
You mean nihilist?
Yeah, I hate that. He isn’t either.

>> No.13847099

>>13843921
>>13843903
Maybe Siddhartha?

>> No.13848383

>>13843903
Maybe try "The Power and the Glory" by Graham Greene

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>>13843903
I've tried to find a good book on this too but haven't had any success yet. But if you havent' seen it Ingmar Bergman's Winter Light is a compelling movie about a priest's crisis of faith.

>> No.13848448

>>13845866
"you have to believe in the magic trick for it to work"

>> No.13848459

>>13845866
That Aquinas quote follows the same tautological reasoning New Age gurus use to convince people of their woo-woo. Saying if you have faith no explanation is necessary is tantamount to saying if you have faith you have faith.

>> No.13848471

>>13843961
>>13845882
>>13846738
only worthwhile replies

>> No.13848583

>>13846596
based islam poster

>> No.13848703

>>13848459

Yes, that is the point. If you get it, you get it, if you don't, you don't. Faith transcends rationality.

>> No.13848827

>>13848703
How are you supposed to get it, though? I simply don't, hard as I try, despite having been raised a Christian.

>> No.13848854

>>13848827

Prayer. Pray humbly and sincerely and with time the Lord will make his presence known to you. Even if it seems illogical you have to pray. Pray with your heart, pray about anything but you really must pray. The prayer is the rope to God! The fact that you are even considering this is a very very good sign trust that. Read the scripture as well, Torah, Bible, or Quran. Obviously as a Muslim I rec the Quran but if you feel most comfortable with Christianity then just read it (please don't pray to Jesus or saints or anything like that though). But again, ignore what people drowned in philosophy and logic tell you on this matter. God is beyond that, just pray.

>> No.13848870

>>13848827

Oh and to elaborate on "if you are considering it its a good sign". One of my favorite sayings is "if you take one step towards God, He takes 10 steps towards you" and it's completely true. You may feel like you arent doing it right or not trying hard enough but believe, if you sincerely want faith and want to be closer with God, then it is not a matter of coincidence. If you feel that your soul longs for the Lord then it may be that He has a beautiful plan for you! Best wishes anon, may He bless you!

>> No.13848871

>>13848854
Thank you. As I'm already very familiar with the Bible, I'll try reading the Quran next.