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Ok, so either you believe there are some basic rules in the universe that stop it from breaking apart randomly or you are a determinist and believe to be protected by fate, but you can’t just be free from reality itself, because in reality you and the things around you are bound to the rules of physics and all desire to keep themselves existing, because if you don’t the most likely thing is that you are already planning for suicide. That would mean there are no truly absolute atheists since absolute atheism would deny there is no sistem or god ruling the universe and thereby physics don’t exist and if you think hard enough you could just think yourself into non-existance or become something other than yourself trough pure willpower

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>>13819078
Tl;dr i conclude there is only one god and muhammed is his prophet

>> No.13819110

>>13819078
>god is everything that exists, and you believe that everything that exists, exists, right anon?
To what degree is this god a property of your own framework?

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>>13819110
If i masturbate i will cum, if i drop an apple it will fall. For as long as the universe follows rules i will believe there is a God

>> No.13819437

You dropped these ,,,,.... you kc tier bitch.

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Take eternity, and a trillion trillion years is not even an instant of it, who says your random moment can't be a sextillion year process? All particles are plausibly breaking apart, even dark matter (theoretically), space is expanding exponentially, life is always in a fight against death. Your "breaking apart" seems to be essential. When this Aeon breaks, new rules will come in.

>> No.13820260

>either you believe there are some basic rules in the universe that stop it from breaking apart randomly or you are a determinist
Wrong (false dichotomy)
>absolute atheism would deny there is no sistem or god ruling the universe and thereby physics don’t exist
Wrong (false premise)

>> No.13820610

>>13820260
What other options are out there? How would absolute atheism look like?

>> No.13821928

>>13819078
That's not what atheism mean, even remotely. It's absurdly against the principle of scientific proof, which is where most atheists lean (even though being atheist doesn't prove shit about your scientific inclinations or belief in evolution, Big Bang, etc.). Conflating the laws of physics with some angry asshole in a religious text may make sense to you, but there is no intrinsic relationship there, and it's very silly to try. Essentially theists with their "Prime Mover" crap are saying "gravity seems to exist, therefore my special purple cow made the universe."