/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13770032]

what is art?

[Anonymous No.13770054]

can anyone explain techne vs poiesis?

[Anonymous No.13770061]

what is love?

[Anonymous No.13770069]

>>13770032
The ultimate cope.

[Anonymous No.13770139]

>>13770061
Low levels of serotonin and release of high levels of dopamine in your brain

[Anonymous No.13770153]

[Anonymous No.13770155]

>>13770061
Obligatory: "Baby don't hurt me"

[Anonymous No.13770162]

language barriers

[Anonymous No.13770186]

>>13770153
What book is this from?

[Anonymous No.13770190]

>>13770032
Recta ratio factibilium

[Anonymous No.13770192]

>>13770032
An expression of one's metaphysical thoughts projected into the real world.

[Anonymous No.13770200]

astral farts

[Anonymous No.13770212]

>>13770192
does anything could be art?
or is everything art?

[Anonymous No.13770223]

>>13770212
There is no thing in this world that isn't art. When you realize that, you can start to see the beauty in even the most barren of wastelands.

[Anonymous No.13770229]

>>13770223
only men can do art. If it's art that's done by a woman, then it's technically craft.

[Anonymous No.13770240]

>>13770229
Kek. But seriously, everything is an artform, so long as it originated in thought.

[Anonymous No.13770248]

>>13770223
then why there is this concept of "taste"?
why liking rupi kaur is pleb-tier and why liking dante is patrician-tier?

[Anonymous No.13770263]

>>13770248
because our brains are wired differently. We come from different places, have met different people, and those contribute to our thoughts, and thus, our vision of art.

[Anonymous No.13770283]

>>13770263
so there is no bad art?
what about those people who take pride in having a sophisticated taste?

[Anonymous No.13770286]

>>13770263
For instance, if you surround yourself with medieval paintings and classic literature, your brain will intentionally think of those as 'good' art, because why would you purposefully surround yourself with bad art? Same thing with deviant art OC's and sonic fan fiction.

[Anonymous No.13770292]

The pursuit of creating aesthetically pleasing... things

[Anonymous No.13770298]

>>13770283
>so there is no bad art
Good and evil are purely subjective terms. One man's hitler is another man's Jesus.
>what about those people who take in having a sophisticated taste
Who doesn't take pride in their taste? If you knew your taste was shit, you'd probably not have those tastes.

[Anonymous No.13770299]

>>13770292
>Now the banal reality has become aestheticized, all reality is trans-aestheticized, and that is the very problem. Art was a form, and then it became more and more no more a form but a value, an aesthetic value, and so we come from art to aesthetics… And as art becomes aesthetics it joins with reality, it joins with the banality of reality. Because all reality becomes aesthetical, too, then it’s a total confusion between art and reality, and the result of this confusion is hyperreality. But, in this sense, there is no more radical difference between art and realism. And this is the very end of art. As form.
>–Jean Baudrillard, 2005

[Anonymous No.13770304]

>>13770292
What if you made a painting that was made to be UNaesthetically pleasing? Would it still be art?

[Anonymous No.13770327]

>>13770298
who defines what shit taste is?
taking pride in having taste feels shallow and disgusting. because at this point your taste serves as a mere fashion accessory.

[Anonymous No.13770337]

>>13770032

[Anonymous No.13770359]

>>13770212
>>13770248
>>13770283
>>13770327
This Anon is deep into the Socratic method

[Anonymous No.13770365]

>>13770327
Everyone defines what shit taste is, but at the same time, shit taste doesn't exist, as its a subjective thing.
>Taking pride in having taste feels shallow and disgusting
so do you not like your own personal preferences in art? That's what having pride in taste means.

[Anonymous No.13770368]

>>13770032
Art, first of all, can be applied to everything. It is like asking, "What is history? Or Philosophy? Or Science?"
Everything has a history, a philosophy, a science, and an art.
It's history is the events that have occurred to it in the past and will occur to it in the future.
It's philosophy is the interpretation of the object. Science is the laws that govern the object.
The art of an object is it's re-utilization and it's appreciation.
For instance, you'd get a history of a book if you knew who wrote it, when it was written, and who owned the copy before you.
You'd get the philosophy of a book if you understood what it meant. You'd get the science of a book if you understood the language, grammar, syntax, formatting, and meter. You'd get the art of a book if you enjoyed it, and got something else entirely then what the author meant.

You can make the same analogy with paintings and songs.

[Anonymous No.13770386]

>>13770139
What's the difference between serotonin release and dopamine release?

[Anonymous No.13770399]

>>13770248
Well, there are well written critiques why some works are expertly made or are particularly influential. To some teenage girl on Twitter some random YA novel is more important than War and Peace, however, in the wider sphere of things, War and peace is more novel, well constructed, more complex, and more influential than the former. These are not specific stratifications, but there are vague categorization.

[Anonymous No.13770411]

>>13770399
I'm not denying the importance of war and peace, I'm saying that the conclusion that these context clues (ie. constructiveness, complexity, and influence) provide is subjective.

[Anonymous No.13770412]

>>13770304
ideally no.
thats why people shitting on a canvas is not art.

[Anonymous No.13770418]

>>13770337
but why in academia or in communities like /lit/ you can just point to certain artworks and all of the people with "sophisticated taste" shake their heads in acceptance? its feels like when you go up in higher education the concept of taste become more and more collectivized. and it start to look like some objective truth?
>That's what having pride in taste means.
taking pride is looking down on other people. i don't do this.

[Anonymous No.13770419]

>>13770412
But it's an expression of one's metaphysical thoughts into the real world, is it not? Therefore, it has meaning, and therefore, it is art.

[Anonymous No.13770421]

>>13770337
Who is this twink?

[Anonymous No.13770439]

>>13770418
Because certain pieces of art have elements that those with "sophisticated taste" look for.
>Taking pride is looking down on other people
Pride is not a bad thing, but pride mixed with gluttony is an evil, to be sure.

[Anonymous No.13770523]

>>13770439
then why do people with "sophisticated taste" look down on normies who are considered people with bad taste, when both are following a collectivized taste?
>Pride is not a bad thing
but its a gateway

[Anonymous No.13770553]

>>13770523
Because some fools are under the opinion that you can have a 'right' or 'wrong' opinion, which is utterly Barbaric.

[Anonymous No.13770586]

>>13770139
Bugman response

[Anonymous No.13770610]

>>13770337
who’s that incel-lookin ass nigga

[Anonymous No.13770624]

>>13770553
so then most of the academia and people on this board are fools?
and isn't calling other people fools and barbaric a "right or wrong" opinion?

[Anonymous No.13770653]

>>13770421
>>13770610
Not sure if baiting or being _that_ new and ignorant

[Anonymous No.13770875]

>>13770653
obvious bait

[Anonymous No.13770884]

>>13770061
baby dont hurt me

[Anonymous No.13770897]

>>13770419
You've just changed the definition.

[Anonymous No.13770908]

>>13770897
How so?
>>13770624
It's what I consider barbaric, sorry.

[Anonymous No.13770925]

>>13770368
Wojak Fortress ?

[Anonymous No.13770946]

>>13770908
i said the definition of art is the pursuit of creating aesthetically pleasing things.
You said its the expression of metaphysical thought into the real world.

[Anonymous No.13770961]

>>13770337
Moists actually kinda handsome

[Anonymous No.13770992]

>>13770908
>It's what I consider barbaric, sorry.
then you do certainly believe in right and wrong