/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13766257]

Is he a fraud

[Anonymous No.13766266]

>>13766257
No, but he can be a bit melodramatic and he has become a kind of weird posterboy for something or other that doesn't represent what he teaches or thinks etc.

[Anonymous No.13766268]

no
he's not smart enough to be a fraud
fucking loser

[Anonymous No.13766271]

>>13766266
this desu, his advice is so entry level as to be useless unless you are truly a slimey neckbeard basement dweller.

[Anonymous No.13766274]

>>13766257
No. He is literally intentionally dumbing himself down to get zoomers to floss their teeth and make their bed, for good reason.

[Anonymous No.13766279]

he got famous by criticizing marxism for years when he hadn't read a single work by marx, so yes

[Anonymous No.13766284]

>>13766271
It doesn't work even if you are

[Anonymous No.13766308]

>>13766271
I think his advice around clinical stuff is good, but it's much higher level than lobsters and cleaning rooms and what not.

[Anonymous No.13766314]

>>13766257
Is that John Malkovich?

[Anonymous No.13766326]

He is not a fraud in my book. I wish he could write more about Jungian Theory and less about self-improvement. His searching about concealing western capitalism with making a difference in society are eccentric and risky and I think his method in order to achieve it is wrong, but I get it.

[Anonymous No.13766330]

>>13766279
>he thinks he can point out the bad things Christians do but he hasn't even read the Bible!

[Anonymous No.13766336]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7u3Lu-kzgg

lol at https://youtu.be/O7u3Lu-kzgg?t=586

[Anonymous No.13766355]

>>13766308
What? Are you retarded? Are you having a stroke?

Beterson made some good points. Everything after that was him harvesting the seeds he sew. The guy played his hand more intelligently than most people could ever dream of doing. Philosophically, he possesses understanding. In terms of originality of substance, his organization of ideas is about his only strong point. His application is exactly reminiscent of the people he’s extracted them from. He’s good at stringing words together and people like to listen. His book sold well and as a result he had the means to do projects that increased his fame. His debate with Zizek showed the world that neither men are truly pioneering anything relating to philosophy. They’re merely standing on the shoulders of the greats and whistling at eachother. Peterson makes strong points, and he makes them well and effectively. If you’re unable to get off your ass and immediately implement them, he doesn’t give a shit about you and actively criticizes or feels downright sorry for you.

He is a fraud if you think he’s trying to be a great spiritual leader. He’s a fraud if you think he’s trying to re invent psychologicy or philosophically. He is an excellent motivational speaker, and an above average author. Clean your room and proceed towards your goals.

[Anonymous No.13766366]

>>13766266
He's a boring, bourgeoise, low-church anglo pr*testant goofball with a messiah complex, and no.1 contender to Donald Trump's title of "Top Shabbos Buttgoy".

[Anonymous No.13766373]

[Anonymous No.13766379]

>>13766373
Koch brothers funded, remember

[Anonymous No.13766385]

>>13766366
Does he have a connection to the orange order?

[Anonymous No.13766412]

>>13766308
t. orders his life around the Big Five

[Anonymous No.13766431]

>>13766412
You're using jargon to fantasise about being smart, knock it off.

[Anonymous No.13766432]

>>13766257
if i just looked at that picture without knowing anything else about him i can tell that he's someone who talks alot of shit and pretends to have balls when really he's a bitch who only talks big when he's got a huge advantage.

[Anonymous No.13766437]

>>13766355
>Philosophically, he possesses understanding.
>His debate with Zizek showed the world that neither men are truly pioneering anything relating to philosophy.
>He is...an above average author.
You can admit that you sunk too much time into a hack, it's more common than you think.

[Anonymous No.13766445]

>>13766431
t. orders his life around the Big Five and is insecure about it

[Anonymous No.13766449]

>>13766257
*blows Peterson the absolute fuck out*

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13766458]

>>13766373
>Africa
Because of China, Jordan. Not the free market.

>>13766379
Koch brother funded! I knew someone was pushing this guy. Doesn’t surprise me.

So yes, OP. A big fraud.

[Anonymous No.13766469]

>>13766449
I would love to see a reaction from "Clean Your Room" Peterson on "Everything Is Here [in my kitchen cupboards], Clothes, Socks, Underwear, Journals, Everything Is Nice" Zizek's housekeeping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA60L_NQYm0

Next debate maybe?

[Anonymous No.13766484]

>>13766469
they do both love soviet art

[Anonymous No.13766503]

>>13766458
Get a job

[Anonymous No.13766511]

>>13766385
The're both philosemitic.

[Anonymous No.13766536]

>>13766511
>cute
Jesus

[Anonymous No.13766551]

>>13766268
Do you fail to understand the meaning of fraud?, it doesn’t require a high intelligence to embody a fraudulent person

[Anonymous No.13766552]

>>13766437
I watched his series on the bible, his debate with Zizek, and read a few chapters of Maps of Meaning. I quickly skimmed 12 Rules for Life.


Your post is not without merit. I spent way too much time trying to figure out the sophist Jiddu Krishnamurti.

[Anonymous No.13766557]

>>13766552
>I spent way too much time trying to figure out the sophist Jiddu Krishnamurti.
>it actually took him some time
Yikes

[Anonymous No.13766558]

>Asking this question post-April 19, 2019

[Anonymous No.13766576]

>>13766557
Cringe

[Anonymous No.13766593]

>>13766432
Yeah this. He looks like a faggot and he has the personality to match.

[Anonymous No.13766600]

>>13766432
>>13766593
Post face and body with timestamp faggot

[Anonymous No.13766613]

>>13766600
gimme your skype/discord i'll show you my body and we can chat

[Anonymous No.13766636]

>>13766279
That's not even true though. He said that he only went back to read the Communist Manifesto for his debate with Zizek, and mentioned that he hadn't picked it up since his undergrad, he never commented on what Marxist theory he had read in general throughout his life. Why are leftists so incapable of deriving the correct meaning from words?

[Anonymous No.13766638]

>>13766613
I don't use that shit.
Anyway anon why don't you want to prove how right you are to this board by posting your face?

[Anonymous No.13766649]

reasons people dislike this guy:
1. trying to help loser guys. there's something inherently disgusting about someone trying to help people who've showed themselves to be genetically unfit. people are okay with charity cases because the implication there is that we allow these people to smoothly disappear into the mist. telling deselected men to assert themselves is an attack on society's judgement
2. overton window. political entropy decides that every category and restriction is eventually up for grabs and someone who puts down his foot is implicitly saying that there's a limit to what you can be. people who haven't thought about this deeply will respond with hate because it's like someone for the first time ever telling them that the sky isn't the limit. btw the sky's obviously the limit but the limit is resources (which might become virtually endless) and the sky might be hell
3. omg he's totally not a true intellectual like uh dawkins, hawking and pinker. you're lying to yourself if you start to seethe when jbp opens his mouth but it barely registers when hucksters like dawkins, pinker and hawking are pontificating about societal dynamics

[Anonymous No.13766656]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1Y76oNLiM2q

[Anonymous No.13766683]

>>13766649
he's the definition of a pseudointellectual. he has no qualifications in either philosophy or political theory and yet he has made this the basis of his intellectual project. he has been shown time and time again to not understand the philosophers he speaks of (even the ones he likes; he ties the idea that all fact have an unlimited number of interpretations to postmodernism when it's clearly an offshoot of Nietzsche's perspectivism)

[Anonymous No.13766692]

>>13766649
We dislike him because he's a Jew loving neoliberal rat

[Anonymous No.13766735]

>>13766257
Its more damning of our society that we need a leaf stepdad to tell ua universal truths that should be obvious to anyone on first glance.

I've heard so many atheists say that they never thought christianity's had some metaphorical, subconscious meaning that I honestly believe I'm living in lala land!

He's a self help psychologist who, in a healthy society wouldn't have gotten anywhere as much popularity as he does in our clown world.

Its not peterson that makes me scared for humanity, its the people who never figured this out by themselves.

[Anonymous No.13766736]

>>13766257
At first i was angry about this guy. So much attention for so little talent. Then i realized that he was a connection to Zizek in america, who is a (rather poor, but still) connection to Karl Marx.
So thank you Peter.

[Anonymous No.13766797]

>>13766257
Why does he cry so much? Is he faking it, or is he genuinely that much of a pussy?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m7G7PTxqvFs

[Anonymous No.13766819]

>>13766797
He´s legit depressed. Before the bendernouns episode made him famous, he was famous for giving interviews about his depression.

[Anonymous No.13766857]

>>13766683
once again, I refer to points one and two. these are the reasons for your madness

the stuff he says about psychology isn't exactly groundbreaking and his "pontifications" about politics is as good and well-argued as any anodyne being peddled right now by the most well-regarded popular thinkers. he's not even popular, he's seen as a curious object for retarded men to latch on to. people like pinker are actually melting the nervous system of society and much more effectively than peterson. you're a white blood cell attacking a guy who we haven't been completely immunized to while missing the cancer.

his "actual" understanding of nietzsche or postmodernism is unimportant, the interesting part is his perfect understanding of how we're in a watershed moment that will probably end with a lot of death. his project is ultimately not a philosophical one, it's a political one. these terms (marxists or postmodernists) are buzzwords; they're meant to clue you in to the fact that he sees the decay of the west. they're meant to soothe disgruntled men looking for a violent option; daddy sees you and you need to clean your room, bucko

>>13766692
no popular figure will ever be popular on 4chan due to 4chan's inherently reactionary nature

>>13766797
I honestly believe he believes he's preventing gulags and nazi camps

[Anonymous No.13766862]

>>13766819
I'm depressed and I can't remember the last time I cried. I think he's just a faggot.

[Anonymous No.13766898]

>>13766862
Today i wanted to cry (failure with dating a pretty women). I really wanted. Alone in the fields at dusk. I couldn't.

[Anonymous No.13766918]

>>13766257
Absolutely.
He got famous by criticizing the C-16 bill, claiming it would bring about some sort of Maoist dystopia, when all it did was place trans people in the same class as other racial or sexual minorities in terms of being protected against discrimination.

He's got some credentials in psychology, and I won't be arguing those; but his takes on philosophy are cringe-worthy.
Like saying post modernists (whatever the hell he means by that) are marxists in disguise. That Marx completely ignores Nature in his system (when it's the object of all labour).
His dogmatic belief in/annoying catch phrase "clean up your room before you try to change the world", which is just empirically wrong on top of being self-evidently retarded and propaganda for the blind maintenance of the status quo.

I'm sure I could come up with more if I went back and rewatched some of his lectures and debates. But I don't feel like torturing myself today.

[Anonymous No.13766944]

>>13766918
>claiming it would bring about some sort of Maoist dystopia,
No.

[Anonymous No.13766988]

>>13766918
>He got famous by criticizing the C-16 bill, claiming it would bring about some sort of Maoist dystopia, when all it did was place trans people in the same class as other racial or sexual minorities in terms of being protected against discrimination.

“Dripping water hollows out stone, not through force but through persistence.”

it's not about the issue itself, it's about the boundless charge into the epistemological abyss. men aren't women and the more you push it, the more dysfunction you'll have and the more destruction you'll have when the bottom falls out. it's about preventing the west from adopting more death memes

>Like saying post modernists (whatever the hell he means by that) are marxists in disguise.

once again, it's not a philosophical mission, it's a political one. death memes are okay for dysfunctional 140+ IQ academics, it's not okay to broadcast it as gospel to normies and make them ineffective, sad and stupid unless you have intentions of ruling in hell

>blind maintenance of the status quo.

that status quo of "normally functioning white men" are what's keeping this shit-show on the road. it's not getting better, bro, and we're quickly reaching diminishing returns

[Anonymous No.13767023]

>>13766857
>his "pontifications" about politics is as good and well-argued as any anodyne being peddled right now by the most well-regarded popular thinkers
how can you say that after watching him get his shit pushed in by fucking Zizek of all people
>we're in a watershed moment that will probably end with a lot of death
every radical memes this idea, left and right. this is one of the most trite and uninteresting political ideas right now. maybe if he had something interesting to say relating to say about political theory it might be interesting, but as even you have conceded his grasp on philosophy is tenuous. at best he doesn't know what he's talking about, at worst he's a total huckster making the most of his internet virality he picked up from his protest of C-16 here in Canada. I'm surprised you say his takes on psychology aren't groundbreaking because Maps of Meaning is the only thing I would pay attention to as far as Peterson is intellectually concerned.
>he's not even popular, he's seen as a curious object for retarded men to latch on to
>I honestly believe he believes he's preventing gulags and nazi camps
kek never mind. fuck you got me anon

[Anonymous No.13767024]

>>13766257
Yes.
He is a post modernist despite all his protestations.
He uses dense and verbose dialogue to say incredibly complex things that actually say nothing at all or something very simple.
His whole agenda is attacking social progressive movements and environmentalism.

The man is a Koch crony.

He got his big break at Rebel Media.
Rebel Media was founded by Ezra Levant, in college he was a Koch Foundation Summer Fellow and attended Institute for Humane Studies and Liberty Fund events. He did his internship at the Charles G. Koch Foundation and worked at the Fraser Institute their main think tank in Canada. Rebel has received funding from the Middle East Forum, which the Kochs fund. And has produced anti-Muslim attack ads with MEF featuring far-right personalities.
Peterson has spoken at the Manhattan Institute and Heritage Foundation, both Koch funded.
On his twitter he has recommended IHS and HumanProgress which is a project of the Cato Institute which the Kochs founded and fund.
And he attends TPUSA events, which the Kochs fund through 4 different groups.

[Anonymous No.13767040]

>>13766373
>>13766379
hey thanks for saving my files, I was wondering why they weren't loading for this >>13767024

Charles Koch has been their chairman of the board of the Institute for Humane Studies since the early 1970s, since just 2005 the Kochs have donated over 34 million to it

[Anonymous No.13767052]

He's probably a pretty good acute treatment psych, but his politics are sloppy af.

[Anonymous No.13767061]

>>13766274
lol he's earnest as ralphy wiggum

[Anonymous No.13767068]

>>13766279
he's a brainlet who thinks he's a genius

[Anonymous No.13767074]

Peterson is reddit. Zizek is 4chan.

[Anonymous No.13767077]

>>13766379
Koch brothers are the good guys, they give more money to the arts than anyone else. Why should I care that they want to be wealthy? I'm not an envious person.

[Anonymous No.13767078]

>>13766355
ffs, he bailed on one his central tenets of free speech after 10 seconds of basic questioning by jim jefferies. the dude is an ideological husk.

[Anonymous No.13767083]

>>13766944
Imagine getting disproved by a 5 second search on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DuQbXrSRvg

[Anonymous No.13767089]

>>13767068
/lit/

[Anonymous No.13767093]

>>13767083
I'm trying to imagine it, could you help me out?

[Anonymous No.13767096]

Peterson has helped more people than most of us could ever possibly dream of. Has any here who is criticising him ever honestly tried self authoring? It's life changing. If you are already so great that you don't need it, great for you, but a lot of us were challenged not to settle for the lives we were living, and it raised us up. All the squabbling over his points of view don't matter at all to a person like me.

I quit doing cocaine
confronted my abusive alcoholic father
repaired relationships with a sister who I hadn't spoken to in 15 years
Read my first book in 10 years
Quit all drugs
Quit being an edgy atheist
As a consequence I'm a better husband, father, employee, neighbour, and citizen.

I've been to see him many times. Everyone at the events is there to thank him for his impact on their lives. The conversation rarely ever shifted to his policy viewpoints or Sam Harris debates or if he's a crypto jew or whatever. I've never met a finer man.

Pic related. He's got his view aligned.

[Anonymous No.13767101]

>>13767040
ty for posting them anon

[Anonymous No.13767113]

>>13767089
watch cuck philosophy's explication of peterson's take on pomo or Marxism--he has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.13767114]

>>13767096
If this is true, I'm happy for you anon!

[Anonymous No.13767119]

>>13767024
Wrong, he got his big break in Canada via Rex Murphy at the national post. That was for the U of T demonstration. Then Joe Rogan. He'd been a staple on TVO (Ontario TV) well before that. Thanks for spreading the disinfo though, wonder why you'd do that?

[Anonymous No.13767124]

>>13767077
>Koch brothers are the good guys, they give more money to the arts

Deliberate PR move to improve their image: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/01/25/new-koch

Funding anti-public transportation efforts across the country: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/climate/koch-brothers-public-transit.html

Koch Industries subsidiary poisoning Arkansas town: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-whistle-blower-accuses-the-kochs-of-poisoning-an-arkansas-town

Koch Industries awful workplace health & safety record: https://www.propublica.org/article/rising-profits-rising-injuries-the-safety-crisis-at-koch-industries-Georgia-Pacific

Supporting Evangelical anti-abortion and homophobic groups and pro-war group:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bn5y4w/the-koch-brothers-fake-libertarianism-war-forced-pregnancies-and-homophobia-729

Primary movers and shakers in climate change denial: https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/kochland-examines-how-the-koch-brothers-made-their-fortune-and-the-influence-it-bought

Attempting to smear journalists who report on them: https://www.democracynow.org/2016/1/20/how_the_kochs_tried_and_failed

And I haven't even touched on their curious connections with the far right, you dig into their history and you find that in the 1960s & 70s they were supporting Segregationists and Holocaust Deniers.
Today they support 'racial realist' Charles Murray, TPUSA, Daily Wire, etc

[Anonymous No.13767128]

>>13767023
>how can you say that after watching him get his shit pushed in by fucking Zizek of all people
I didn't watch it because I don't watch peterson or zizek. I know for a fact that zizek is more credible because he's fun and people like fun so he automatically wins

>every radical memes this idea, left and right. this is one of the most trite and uninteresting political ideas right now.
you can't understand his role in the debate if you can't see that he sees himself as a stalwart against white nationalism. you can't understand trump if you don't see him as a reaction of white nationalism. I'm happy that you feel confident about the prospects tho, I admire that

>I'm surprised you say his takes on psychology aren't groundbreaking because Maps of Meaning is the only thing I would pay attention to as far as Peterson is intellectually concerned.
when he talks about self-help. you couldn't pay me to read maps of meaning

[Anonymous No.13767135]

>>13767119
>if you're wrong or got chronology wrong that's disinfo
Would that be the National Post owned by Conrad Black? The same National Post that Ezra Levant worked at?

[Anonymous No.13767136]

>>13767119
>he got his big break in Canada
anon Rebel Media is Canadian, Ezra Levant is Canadian...

[Anonymous No.13767140]

[Anonymous No.13767141]

>>13767135
I believe that you believe that you have a point.

[Anonymous No.13767147]

>>13767136
careful don't hurt him

[Anonymous No.13767151]

>>13767141
big talk from a man who didn't know Rebel and Ezra are Canadian

[Anonymous No.13767156]

>>13767140
when he talks to Camille Paglia he runs into this contradiction, that was way before Zizek. he basically got out of it by saying, "aren't those postmodern neomarxists crazy? they believe in an oxymoron!"

[Anonymous No.13767160]

>>13767114
it is all true, and more. I went to see him in the spring and told him all this. He said "Great. Imagine where you could be in 10 years if you keep it up."

I wish I had a Dad that could have encouraged me like him, and to everyone who didn't need a father figure, that's great for them. I hope to be that figure to my kids.

I struggled a lot. I was so insecure and had a pretty solid facade going. I lied all the time.

I hope everyone who is reading this will take the time to try to self authoring. Get a stolen version if you have to. It helped me think deeply about my life. Please try it guys. I'm sure it would only take you 2 seconds to think about something you want to change in your life. You don't have to give credit to Peterson, but it could be the thing that helps you.

[Anonymous No.13767164]

>>13767151
Different person.

[Anonymous No.13767169]

>>13767141
oh wow you can't be serious, his videos coming out warning about the trans rights bill went viral first, as did the protest videos. and REX MURPHY was a staple on CBC for DECADES, that's the national broadcaster. sorry you narrative has fallen apart.

[Anonymous No.13767180]

>>13767136
I am Canadian Bucko, and if you think getting covered by the Rebel constitutes a Big Break, you clearly have no clue what the urban centre opinion is of the guy. That's all blue territory country boy bumper sticker stuff, waaaaaay far away from people who go to uni and read maps of meaning and needed a white collar psychologist to tell them anything.

[Anonymous No.13767182]

>>13767151
Big talk from a man who doesn't know that Conrad Black doesn't own the National Post.

[Anonymous No.13767211]

>>13767180
I'm Canadian too which is why you framing Rebel Media as something outside of Canada stuck out to me. I never said it was his big break you are mixing up your (You)'s. the first time I saw Peterson was his youtube video he posted outlining the letter he received from U of T. either way, it's pretty obvious by his shilling of Koch organizations and his relation to other Koch funded individuals that it's quite likely he's a Koch shill. I don't think he's doing this maliciously or dishonestly though, he's pretty open about his pseudo-objectivist morality

[Anonymous No.13767286]

>>13767074
this desu

[Anonymous No.13767290]

>>13767024
Doesn't he also have connections to the UN

[Anonymous No.13767391]

>>13766257
He is glow in the dark approved so yes.

[Anonymous No.13767403]

>>13767124
>And I haven't even touched on their curious connections with the far right, you dig into their history and you find that in the 1960s & 70s they were supporting Segregationists and Holocaust Deniers.
But the holocaust never happened, and segregation destroys homogeneous communities. Also is it not interesting you use Jew York Times and Vice the two most far left publications to distort things in your favor.

[Anonymous No.13767412]

>>13767136
Canadian Jew.

[Anonymous No.13767421]

>>13767412
>Canadian + Jewish
Is there a worse possible combination

[Anonymous No.13767428]

>>13766257
I went to one of his talks for lulz and it was fucking unintelligible garbage. He literally just paced back and forth on stage wandering from topic to topic until someone stood up and called him a Nazi, and then he went on a 20 minute tangent about how narcissistic that is.

[Anonymous No.13767461]

>>13767403
>>13767412
Peterson claims Jews are over-represented because they are smarter than the average person and therefore fully deserve their place in the social hierarchy, do you disagree?

[Anonymous No.13767497]

>>13767461
>because they are smarter than the average person
Nice propaganda faggot

[Anonymous No.13767515]

>>13767497
This is Jordan Peterson's position

[Anonymous No.13767612]

>>13767515
Yes and he's a faggot shill

[Anonymous No.13767622]

>>13767612
What is a shill

[Anonymous No.13767629]

>>13767461
He's right btw, Ashkenazi Jews have some weird genetic mutation that gives them high IQs at the cost of verbal function. Basically they're autists

[Anonymous No.13767665]

>>13767629
Not as autistic as Germanic people.

[Anonymous No.13767675]

he's a pathetic father figure for pathetic retards

getting btfo by zizek must have been rough for him emotionally

[Anonymous No.13767700]

>>13767675
"father figure"
more like a mother figure.
i only ever heard clean your room and stand up straight from my mother these guys are fucking homosexuals just like their hero
not that theres anything wrong wit hthat

[Anonymous No.13767718]

>>13767675
>getting btfo by zizek must have been rough for him emotionally
It would have been funny if he'd started crying.

[Anonymous No.13767730]

>>13767629
Source? This intrigues me

[Anonymous No.13767733]

>>13767718
you dont understand peterson.
he gets fucked up but he keeps it all in then he cries in the name of HUMAN INDIVIDUALITY 3 years later

[Anonymous No.13767736]

>>13766257
Big time yes

[Anonymous No.13767738]

>>13767629
verbal function by what standards?
because i guarantee you 99% of lit would be autistic in any bar

[Anonymous No.13767740]

>>13767629
>>13767738
and without the IQ

[Anonymous No.13767741]

>>13766266
>No, but he can be a bit melodramatic
Yes he is a fraud, almost opportunist. His speeches on the damage and negativity of white tribalism pretty much ousted him and destroyed the brand he was trying to sell. He's just another controlled opposition cog in the machine of people trying to shape the way you think. Fuck him.

[Anonymous No.13767750]

notice you don't see the same endless tantrum over nick land being called a neofascist

[Anonymous No.13767752]

>>13766636
It's pretty clear he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. It doesn't make that debate any less embarrassing for him if you pretend his understanding of marxism wasn't just gleaned from a fucking pamphlet as an undergrad.

[Anonymous No.13767756]

>>13767750
that's because nobody gives a fuck about nick land because he's a fucking autistic shutcunt like 95% of lit is you fucking retarded dogshit cunt

[Anonymous No.13767761]

Yes; Jordanetics by Vox Day will tell you everything you need to know

[Anonymous No.13767792]

charlatan

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13767800]

IMBECILE!

[Anonymous No.13767802]

>>13767756
hey, all that time trying to understand """theory""" for absolutely nothing at the end of it all, I'd be this mad too.

[Anonymous No.13767804]

>>13767730
has its own wiki page
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

[Anonymous No.13767805]

>>13767800
Exactly, unironically just read Nassim Taleb (and his twitter) and just forget this peterson faggot ever existed

[Anonymous No.13767870]

>>13767802
what are you saying nick land is a jew? i get that you're autistic but be consistent you retarded shit cunt

[Anonymous No.13767884]

>>13767805
that's like unchaining yourself in Plato's cave for the sake of switching seats

[Anonymous No.13767895]

>>13767884
fucking imbecile

[Anonymous No.13767898]

>>13767895
why you so fragile bro?

[Anonymous No.13767905]

>>13767884
>plato's cave
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA there is no cave you autistic fucking virgin nerd AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

[Anonymous No.13767912]

>>13767898
Prepare to receive a fat tail in your ass (my penis)

[Anonymous No.13767938]

>>13767895
>>13767905
>>13767912
why do the Greeks cause such frustration in brainlets?

[Anonymous No.13767945]

>>13767938
no you realize the cave doesn't exist yes?

[Anonymous No.13767949]

>>13767945
care to make an argument anon?

[Anonymous No.13767968]

>>13767949
answer my question.
or are you too scared?

[Anonymous No.13767973]

>>13767938
It's not the greeks, it's Plato, because he was wrong and Aristotle was right

[Anonymous No.13767976]

>>13767968
I don't even know what you mean anon, you are just stating empty premises. What do you mean by "there isnno cave"?

[Anonymous No.13767988]

>>13767976
>What do you mean by "there isnno cave"?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
ok i'll be nice
do you think the cave is real?

[Anonymous No.13767993]

>>13767988
No one thinks there is a literal cave anon, it's an allegory. Deep breaths anon, think really hard and use your words to describe the thoughts in your head

[Anonymous No.13768019]

>>13767993
>being this metaphysically retarded
no retard do you think the shadows in the cave are real?

[Anonymous No.13768031]

>>13768019
Anon make a fucking argument, it's an allegory, you need to interpret it. There are no literal cave and there are no literal shadows you absolute retard
>metaphysics
Anon I was memeing about pop intellectuals, you are actually embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.13768039]

>>13768031
>literal
i guess you really are that metaphysically retarded, probably retarded in the physical world too hope you're ready to be hit

[Anonymous No.13768050]

>>13768039
anon you can't even refute a meme lmao

[Anonymous No.13768068]

>>13768050
what meme retard?
i thought you were some academic you don't even understand what i'm asking you you think i'm asking you if there was a LITERAL cave LMAO.
let's have a civil conversation. i'll ask it one last time. do you think the shadows in the cave are real?

[Anonymous No.13768122]

>>13768068
okay anon, let me break this down for you, since you are really spinning your wheels. the joke was that switching your intellectual bent from following one pop-intellectual to following another other is like switching seats in the cave, as in, rather than escape psudeointellectualism when freed from your Peterson chains, you instead sit down in another chair (switch pop-intellectuals to Taleb instead). the outside of the cave would be, in this case, you discovering how to be an honest intellectual who thinks for yourself rather than looking for whatever pop-intellectual daddy you want to follow.
>does the cave exist?
yes, psuedointellectuals exist
>do the shadows exist?
yes, pop-intellectuals exist
so where did I get my metaphysics wrong anon?

[Anonymous No.13768134]

>>13766257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maXXTXIgpu8

[Anonymous No.13768158]

>>13768122
peterson sucks
i don't see what has to do with the cave
ad-hominems aside can you actually answer my question?
i mean i want to give you the benefit of the doubt but i genuinely think you don't even understand what i'm asking

[Anonymous No.13768163]

>>13768158
anon it was a joke, I still don't understand what you are asking me. what do you mean the cave doesn't exist? what are you trying to say?

[Anonymous No.13768177]

>>13768163
>it was a joke
okay everything you type is a joke i understand this now.
you can't answer the question let's move on i suggest going to university or growing a brain.

[Anonymous No.13768191]

>>13768177
it was literally a joke though, how autistic are you? honestly though, I would probably defend Plato's cave based on your argument against it, but seeing as how you are not only incapable of putting an argument together, but you seem to think he was talking about metaphysics rather than epistemology, I'm not confident you are up to having that discussion.

[Anonymous No.13768199]

>>13766330
Crucify yourself Christcuck

[Anonymous No.13768211]

>>13766797
>or is he genuinely that much of a pussy?
you are a faggot my friend. Im not even a huge fan but this guy is obviously super passionate about what he does. And he definitely has a personal link to the issues he talks about.

[Anonymous No.13768213]

>>13768191
ok yea i'm autistic because you say you're joking when you're a retarded shitcunt who has no idea what he's talking about. i bet you have 3 loser friends that you met online.
>you seem to think he was talking about metaphysics rather than epistemology
yea you have zero fucking idea about the diarrhoea you're spewing out of your shitcunt mouth take my advice in the previous post

[Anonymous No.13768218]

>>13768213
kek still waiting on an argument anon

[Anonymous No.13768222]

>>13768213
>>13768218
actually, I'm going to bed. think on it, sleep on it, come up with something good and keep the thread alive till tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.13768232]

>>13768218
>>13768222
yea you do that bitch

[Anonymous No.13768243]

>>13768218
you say this shit while being a fucking retard unable to understand my basic question? but yea sleep on it cunt

[Anonymous No.13768262]

>>13767124
>Funding anti-public transportation efforts across the country
>Supporting Evangelical anti-abortion and homophobic groups
>Primary movers and shakers in climate change denial
why am I supposed to hate them again?

[Anonymous No.13768273]

>>13767156
>>13767140
Peterson is right, though. The modern liberal, post-modern school of thought applies Marxist class struggle logic to all forms of power, and it ONLY counts power as the relevant metric. It's the narrative that drives everything in western politics nowadays.

[Anonymous No.13768275]

>>13768262
i don't get it is your endgame fuck humans? who hurt you?

[Anonymous No.13768296]

>>13766257
He's daddy. He wraps his daddy advice in a wrapper made out of Jungian psychology with some other stuff sprinkled in to give everything an intellectual ambience that attracts the sort of dorks who didn't get this sort of advice from their actual dad. His stupid reactionary politics are annoying and he'd be better off just telling losers to stand up straight.

[Anonymous No.13768303]

>>13767805
Go to bed, Taleb

[Anonymous No.13768319]

>>13768273
>Marx: "we have had the whole problem wrong for thousands of years! up until now, we have looked at the issues of society in terms of power or culture or identity, but that's wrong. it's a problem inherent to the mode of production."
>American Liberals: "the issues in society are about about power, culture and identity"
>retards: I see no difference between these positions

[Anonymous No.13768321]

>>13768296
Huh?

[Anonymous No.13768344]

>>13768321
Jordan Peterson has made his name giving shitheads banal yet useful advice that every normalfag has grasped during their teens.

[Anonymous No.13768348]

is he Artaud

[Anonymous No.13768354]

>>13768303
Did you just fucking accuse me of being an arab (intentionally lowercase)? Fucking imbecile, I'm a Greek Orthodox Lebanese and I just filled your saudi barbarian mom with squid ink

[Anonymous No.13768370]

imagine becoming a celebrity because you refuse to use someone's preferred pronouns. that's pretty fucking ridiculous regardless of how you feel about trannies.

[Anonymous No.13768373]

>>13768354
>projecting this hard about your dad being cucked by an ali

[Anonymous No.13768465]

>>13767800
taleb is a semi-genius

[Anonymous No.13768530]

>>13768344
I was I had had a dad

[Anonymous No.13768775]

>>13766257
Yes, stay away from his gnostic nonsense. Next thread please.

[Anonymous No.13768787]

>>13768262
>hates public transportation

Sub*rbanite opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.13768807]

>>13768787
/N/ GANG REPRESENT

[Anonymous No.13768814]

>>13766257
he's an academic

[Anonymous No.13768824]

>>13768807
GANG GANG GANG

and inb4 more sub*rbanites respond:

PROTECT
WESTERN
CIVILIZATION

[Anonymous No.13768834]

>>13767124
>anti abortion, anti faggot-cuddling and anti global warming hoax
I didn't know they were so based.

[Anonymous No.13768842]

>>13768824
>suburbanites
Gondor exists for the Hobbits not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.13768856]

>>13768842
If this is supposed to be some commentary on Tolkien's ruralism, you clearly have no idea of the difference between rural and suburban. Like most urbanists, I have a healthy appreciation for genuinely rural areas with natural environments; they usually have distinct and interesting cultures in addition to their natural beauty.

The suburb, and in particular the American suburb, on the other hand, is a cancer on society and on the planet. It is a place devoid of culture and beauty.

[Anonymous No.13768927]

>>13767160

Where to find for free?

[Anonymous No.13768935]

>>13768856
Oh ok then, as long as We agree on the important things.

[Anonymous No.13768988]

A fraud? No, he's basically the Nietzsche of our time! And much like the original Nietzsche, who for example sold all kinds of Zarathustra merch, he does...this....

[Anonymous No.13769034]

>>13767629
He is partially correct. Ashkenazi over-representation is a combination of high IQ and prolonged practice of extreme nepotism.

[Anonymous No.13769039]

>>13769034
tfw literal masterrace

[Anonymous No.13769066]

>>13768988
>t. Poor "intellectual" who wishes he could do the same
I never understood why this was an argument against him. Reminder that he made something like 500k per month at his peak (if I remember correctly).

[Anonymous No.13769220]

>>13768134
>alejandro posting
based anon

[Anonymous No.13769240]

>>13766257
Probably not. He's the end product of a generation who interpreted the state of the world through their TV screens their whole life, never being taught to question their immediate emotional reaction and instead to construct rational arguments against things that don't really warrant it. He's hasn't had a conversation in decades, only lectures. He's one of these self-important and narcissistic academics who think their discipline extends throughout the goddamn universe.

His self-help stuff is on point tho, I hear. I don't know. You don't have to be a genius not to be a POS.

[Anonymous No.13769329]

>>13767160
everything he is preaching is the some shit you'd get from the Stoic canon. Your, and every other struggling loser's weird obsession with making a Canadian your online daddy is both sad and pathetic, but I am happy you unfucked yourself. Frankly, the fact that so many of you like this guy when there's thousands of years of text and literature in the first place that say the same thing far more eloquently has always made me believe that his fans are particularly lazy and just needed a nice talking head to tell them how to live, and that they couldnt or never have bothered to delve seriously into anything worthwhile to fix themselves. You people remind me of the flock of a Televangelist, really.

[Anonymous No.13769422]

>>13769329
any examples of years of text and literature that say the same thing far more eloquently?

[Anonymous No.13769424]

>>13769329
read this post:
>>13766649
why do you feel this need to drape your disgust for beta males as some sort of reasoned thing? you're like women, resentful and boring

> his fans are particularly lazy and just needed a nice talking head to tell them how to live, and that they couldnt or never have bothered to delve seriously into anything worthwhile to fix themselves. You people remind me of the flock of a Televangelist, really.

you sound like such a brainfucked leftist. do you think a healthy society is built by a bunch of highly agreeable leftoid fags walking around reading "cool" self-help? no, there are a bunch of silent agreements among productive plebs that enables fruitful cooperation and when the silent agreements are done away with the plebs become confused and ineffectual

[Anonymous No.13769490]

>>13769424
Because he is, while not necessarily a beta male himself, in some sense insecure about being seen as a beta males.

The disdain for betas doesn't come from wider society, but from other betas who lashing out in denial or attempting to improve in someway. No one hates anyone more than the person they used to be.

Well-adjusted guys just know the beta terminology from a chance few encounters online. They don't rail on men they perceive to be lower than them on the literature board of 4chan. Take it from me. I used to be a sadistic serial sex murderer, but I turned all that around with Mr Peterson here. Now, I couldn't imagine using stainless steel pliers for anything other than mechanical purposes.

If that kind of behavior confuses you, you're probably better off than 95% of 4chan and 70% of Reddit.

[Anonymous No.13769593]

It depends on what you mean by fraud. It helps no one to be reductive. After all your definition and my definition of fraud could be totally different things. Why should I be boxed in?

[Anonymous No.13769717]

>>13769422
Did you skip the first sentence where I gave an example? Are you daft?
>>13769424
why do you feel this need to drape your disgust for beta males as some sort of reasoned thing?
Congrats on finding something I didnt say to be offended over. I dont have any disgust for beta males, or fans of Peterson, I just dont believe they, in general, have made significant attempts to help themselves, until they had some big daddy talking head personality telling them what to do. Like I said, im happy that guy improved his life, im happy all of his fans improved their lives, I just dont care the manner they went about it. Feel free to keep calling me a leftist instead of addressing the things I actually said, and what what you invented so you could feel attacked and whine about da leftists.

[Anonymous No.13769775]

>>13769717
>until they had some big daddy talking head personality telling them what to do.
this is literally the point of religion you wingnut. any kind of fruitful ecosystem will be organized around big daddy telling people to clean their rooms

>I just dont care the manner they went about it.
what are you even trying to argue? how is this even an argument, you don't "care" for the manner? can you possibly sound more like a snivelling rat? fix your mind, man

[Anonymous No.13769836]

>>13769775
>what are you even trying to argue?
I was never trying to argue anything, you moron.My first reply was stating what I thought in regards to >>13767160.
All I did was respond to another anon in the thread with my opinion on the situation he and others have found themselves in. Have you just been responding to me without bothering to actually see what it was I initially replied to and looking for something to be upset about?

[Anonymous No.13769853]

>>13767752
>It's pretty clear he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
Explain why.

[Anonymous No.13769896]

>>13767140
>>13767156
Peterson explained countless times the correlation between contemporary marxists and post-modernists, even on the debate with Zizek. Hell, I remember Zizek looking down in embarassment after his sad "gotcha!" moment and having to resort to "well, not ALL marxists in academia are like that!" as a response in order to save face.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13769926]

>>13768465
>A genius of semis
>A genie, if you will.

[Anonymous No.13769965]

>>13769853
Because if he actually had read more than the communist manifesto at any point in his life he wouldn't have just stood there rambling generalities about that and only that with his shaking little pussy faggot voice. I tuned out pretty early though since I have no interest in meme philosophy or surrogate daddies.

[Anonymous No.13770003]

>>13769965
That's not why I asked. Explain the reasons why he was wrong.

[Anonymous No.13770025]

>>13766257
His 12 rules is in the charity shop for 50p. Is it a worthwhile investment?

[Anonymous No.13770038]

Why do Zizekfags insist on the notion that he btfo'd Peterson on the debate? Not only was it a unfortunate showing of unpreparedness from both parties, but it was more of a conversation of 2 dudes agreeing on almost everything the other said than an actual debate.
And yet they insist that Sniffman's verbose musings, chaotic ramblings on China, Trump and SJWs and the occasional purposeless mentioning of philosophers made him a victor? Despite Peterson's extemporaneous presentation, he at least remained (marginally) on topic. ZIzek genuinely seemed like he was improvising.

[Anonymous No.13770046]

>>13767074
they are both reddit actually

[Anonymous No.13770081]

>>13766735
Fresh breath of sanity in a mostly insane thread. I view Peterson as neither very revolutionary nor as particularly “evil”, “stupid”, “fraudulent” etc as his most rabid critics presume or outright say.

[Anonymous No.13770125]

>>13767083
totally not misleading at all. you literally have to watch for about a minute after that clip in the full interview for his clarification
https://youtu.be/aMcjxSThD54?t=25m09s

>CN: "Tell us how [philosophy of maoist activists] is in any way comparable (to the philosophy of left-wing/trans activists)?"
>JP: "...the philosophy presumes that group identity is paramount - that's the fundamental philosophy that drove the soviet union and maoist china... and it's the fundamental philosophy of the left-wing activists - it's identity politics. It doesn't matter who you are as an individual, it matters who you are in terms of your group identity."

[Anonymous No.13770129]

>>13770038
because he got rhetorically assraped fuckface

[Anonymous No.13770132]

>>13770003
What I originally said has nothing to do with whether he's right or wrong, just that he has a superficial understanding of the things he talks about. Makes for some epic clips on youtube of him owning the libs when he's up against freshman college kids and literal whos, but he's impossible to take seriously once you read deeper than the handful of books he uses for his entire schtick.

[Anonymous No.13770164]

>>13766257
An opportunist, perhaps. Not a true fraud.
He means well, deep inside.
He's never been the same, since he left Harvard, after the nervous breakdown/stroke.
To bad for U of Toronto, they thought they were getting a world class researcher. What they got was a ghost of his former self, and a media circus.
Dudes made some bank though. All dem fancy carpets.

[Anonymous No.13770289]

>>13770132
What has he gotten wrong about his interpretation of marxism?

[Anonymous No.13770307]

>>13770129
Rhetoric means nothing without actual substance in the realm of intellectual discourse. At least for people that aren't easily impressed simpletons.

[Anonymous No.13770310]

>>13770289
When I can bring myself to sit through more than 10 minutes of his pseud ramblings, I'll let you know.

[Anonymous No.13770321]

>>13769066
This lovely cunt did the same self help thing Peterson did 15 years ago and for boomers, was described as one of the top 100 most influental people on the world and made some 500 million $ out of it, do you hold her in high regards as well?

[Anonymous No.13770325]

>>13770310
Spoken like a true pseud.

[Anonymous No.13770332]

>>13770307
substance is only obvious to people who aren't retarded pieces of shit.
stop pretending to be smart you stupid fucking cunt you didn't even go to uni or you went to a shit one

[Anonymous No.13770339]

>>13770325
Says the memerson drone.

[Anonymous No.13770364]

>>13770339
Nice strawman, faggot. I've watched something like 3 videos of his.
I hope you have the mental capacity to at least appreciate the irony of criticizing Peterson for something you yourself are doing.

[Anonymous No.13770373]

>>13770364
lmao

[Anonymous No.13770382]

>>13770364
That wasn't a strawman, but I'll let it slide since you're obviously young and learned that word last week. And I do, actually, but I'm not gonna spend hours of my life reading and watching lectures rehashing shit I for the most part had read by the time I was 17 just to appease faggots like you. Now tell me, where in my analysis of peterson am I wrong?

[Anonymous No.13770383]

>>13770332
Enumerate the substance in Zizek's rhetoric on the debate, then.
>uni is where smart people go
Absolutely lmaoing at the state of your life.

[Anonymous No.13770432]

>>13770382
>That wasn't a strawman
Calling me a drone is both an ad hominem and a strawman since not only you're attributing to me the imaginary notion that I'm someone deeply protective of Peterson's method when in reality I'm barely familiar with his work, but you're also clearly using these laughable peronal attacks as a subterfuge to not answer the very simple and objective questions I imposed to you.

>Now tell me, where in my analysis of peterson am I wrong?
Why are you so defensive? Where exactly have I assumed you're wrong? You may very well be right and Peterson is indeed nothing but a charlatan. However, since you presented no actual evidence of Peterson's shallowness as a thinker and public speaker, I have no reason whatsoever to believe in your claims. Regardless, that doesn't make your positioning towards him any less hypocritical.

[Anonymous No.13770446]

>>13770432
I also never said peterson was wrong and you keep asking me to say why he's wrong, and I already explained exactly why I think he's shallow. Now clean your room.

[Anonymous No.13770473]

>>13770364

[Anonymous No.13770491]

>>13770446
>It's pretty clear he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
You're either unaware of your lying or doing some olympics-tier mental gymnastics.

[Anonymous No.13770497]

>>13770473
Damn...
So this is the power of the smartest board on 4channel...
I guess I have been... blown the fuck out...

[Anonymous No.13770512]

>>13770497
>“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. ... “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn't have come here.”

[Anonymous No.13770525]

>>13770491
It's called bullshitting. He presents himself as an authority and presents generalizations and strawmen to clueless people. You can be correct and still a bullshitter. Understand yet?

[Anonymous No.13770602]

>>13766266
That's actually pretty spot-on.

[Anonymous No.13770605]

>>13769965
>rambling generalities
like what?

[Anonymous No.13770622]

>>13770525
>He presents himself as an authority
Where? The only people I've ever seen painting him as an authority on anything other than psychology are his oppositors.

>You can be correct and still a bullshitter. Understand yet?
So he KNOWS what he's talking about, the problem is that he doesn't say things in the way or with the depth you think one should, even though by your own account you haven't really watched or read anything in-depth from the man.
Honestly it just seems like you're angry for the sake of being angry, or even worse, angry for the sake of being contrarian.

[Anonymous No.13770635]

>>13770383
no fuckface if anyone needs their substance explained it's peterson and his legion of braindead dumbfucks.
you're that much of a retarded cunt that you'll openly admit you didn't go to uni and think you're better than other people for it. you'd let me fuck your girlfriend and claim that as a win on me you're literally brain damaged i suggest seeking help.

[Anonymous No.13770647]

>>13770289
If you are akshually interested in it, there´s plenty of yt videos of smug lefties dunking on him for his ignorance. The last one from cuckphilosopy comes to mind. People on this board (me included) are just midwits that would respond by parroting the points made from these sources.

[Anonymous No.13770664]

>>13770635
It's ok to pretend you understand Zizek to look smart, anon. You should at least use the perk of anonymity to be honest with yourself about your feelings of intellectual inadequacy.

[Anonymous No.13770679]

>>13770622
>So he KNOWS what he's talking about, the problem is that he doesn't say things in the way or with the depth you think one should,
I do think it's a possibility he dumbs himself down and throws around buzzwords to reach a broad audience and rake in more shekels, but I was implying the opposite in that post.
>Honestly it just seems like you're angry for the sake of being angry, or even worse, angry for the sake of being contrarian.
Yeah, maybe. I'm out, deuces.

[Anonymous No.13770688]

>>13767061
He's earnest as Sneed!

[Anonymous No.13770748]

>SO SNEED - AND THAT'S THE BLOODY THING ABOUT SNEED - HE REPRESENTS CHUCK, IN FACT, HE'S AN AGENT OF CHUCK, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE JANNY, WHO REPRESENTS NEWFAGS. BUT JANNY, IN HIS BITTER RESENTMENT, IN HIS-HIS POSTMODERN CITY SLICKER IDEOLOGY, HE TRIES TO SUCK THE CHUCK - AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA MAN, IT'S LIKE-IT'S LIKE IF YOU TRIED SUCKING CHUCK, IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU FUCKED. BUT JANNY, HE TRIES ANYWAY, MOTIVATED BY A LUST FOR POWER - AND IT'S LIKE - GOD IT'S SO SAD - IT'S LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID! YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID, AND NO POSTMODERN RATIONALIZATION WILL CHANGE THAT. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR. THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE IS EXPLICIT ON THIS MATTER. AND SPEAKING OF SUCKING CHUCK - WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF JANNY’S 'EXPERIMENT'? THE CHUCK IS NOT SUCKED, QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY SEEDED. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN S11E05. THE BLOODY FRINKIACS ATTEMPTED TO FUCK CHUCK, BUT IN DOING SO THEY MERELY FEEDED IT. AND WELL ACTUALLY, THEY DID QUITE A BIT MORE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO BE A MOD IF YOU'RE NOT. WE TRIED THAT EXPERIMENT ON THE OLD SIMPSON PLACE, AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA MAN! AND IT. IS. NOT. A. ROUTE. YOU. WANT. TO. GO. DOWN.
What did he mean by that?

[Anonymous No.13770749]

>>13770664
nah fuckface it's not hard to understand zizek he likes talking shit but his main point is always obvious to people without brain damage.
it's funny because you don't even realize with the cunty way you type and probably speak how hard you're projecting the fact that you didn't go to uni.

[Anonymous No.13771161]

>>13770748
this peterson fella sounds pretty based huh

[Anonymous No.13771205]

>>13766257
No

[Anonymous No.13771225]

>>13766271
Don't underestimate the stupidity of, or tyranny of the majority.

[Anonymous No.13771338]

>>13767160
>get a stolen version if you have to
>>13768927
>where to find for free

I too am interested in not paying for these services

[Anonymous No.13771417]

>>13768232
>>13768243
>still not a single argument
would be disappointing if it wasn't expected

[Anonymous No.13771473]

>>13770622
Different Anon.
He does present himself as authority.
Ironically, by advocating the idea that you should avoid ideology, he is attracting ideological thinking. He's too abstract, which is characteristic of people who attempt to present themselves as authority.
Sorry, if you write a book called Rules for Life and give talks on helping people how to live, you are attempting to be an authority on that subject. Don't play a sucker here.

[Anonymous No.13771611]

>>13771473
>Ironically, by advocating the idea that you should avoid ideology, he is attracting ideological thinking
Where does he say that?
>He's too abstract, which is characteristic of people who attempt to present themselves as authority.
Abstract on what subject? There's a major difference in using abstraction to explain jungian theory and to point out fallacies of marxism (which I haven't seen him be abstract about, at least as far as my admittedly shallow knowledge of his work go).
>Sorry, if you write a book called Rules for Life and give talks on helping people how to live, you are attempting to be an authority on that subject.
I think you're taking way too literally something that's supposed to be a marketing tool. I don't think people unfamiliar with Peterson's work would bother checking a book called "12 Somewhat Useful But Subjectively Personal Suggestions for Life". As far as being an "authority" on self-help goes, his long career as a clinical psychologist makes him a better candidate than the huge majority of self-help authors that rely on even more entry-level platitudes than Peterson, if not on esoteric pseudoscience or self-fulfilling prophecies like The Secret.

[Anonymous No.13771662]

>>13771611
>Where does he say that?
Watch his videos. It's also one of the rules in his new book.
>Abstract on what subject?
Jungian theory is a different beast altogether.
He wanders off a lot when he talks about things like career and finance for example. It becomes so abstract to the point where you hear that financially successful people work 70 hour work weeks, which is obvious, but he hesitates to go any further when it comes to what else you've got to do for that. It's always just hard work. He never fully admits that sometimes you just fuck someone over to get ahead or deliberately build specific relationships with people to work your way through something. He selects hard work and either discards other things or abstracts them away.
>As far as being an "authority" on self-help goes, his long career as a clinical psychologist makes him a better candidate than the huge majority of self-help authors that rely on even more entry-level platitudes than Peterson, if not on esoteric pseudoscience or self-fulfilling prophecies like The Secret.
It doesn't. That's where we fails as humans at large. Because you know something, doesn't mean you need to communicate it to the masses. That goes for everyone, including Peterson. Sure, we will keep on doing it, but there's no reason to assume that it is in any way normal. Just like in some jobs, let's say lawyer, you accept that there are shady things you engage in. Talking to the masses is always a shady thing. Let's see it as such.

[Anonymous No.13772074]

>>13766257
yes

[Anonymous No.13772359]

>>13772074
Peterson already explained the contradiction years ago. I know that commie have no real arguments, but please be a little more honest next time.

[Anonymous No.13772363]

>>13766257
He doesn't read original sources. So, yes, he's a fraud.

[Anonymous No.13772369]

What the fuck is Koch. From what I've gathered it's basically the rich evil jew of the left.

[Anonymous No.13772392]

>>13772359
he's explained he knows it's a contradiction and that no one can actually be a postmodern-neomarxist, but he's never gone on to explain why that makes it worthwhile as a category. his take on people applying the idea of unjust hierarchy to things like race/sex/ect. as a continuation of Marxism ignores the fact that those ideas not only predate Marxism, Marx himself directly criticized this type of thinking.

[Anonymous No.13772404]

>>13766257
>doesn't understand Nietzsche
>doesn't understand Dostoevsky
>hasn't even bothered to read Marx
>meme politics
>Jungian gibberish
>self help guru

is this man really still a thing on here?

[Anonymous No.13772876]

>>13766735
Divorce rates and single mothers raising kids are through the roof nowadays. Young boys are often raised by video games, television, and movies. Its no wonder that Peterson exploited this absentee father niche and made an absurd amount of money doing so.

[Anonymous No.13772899]

>>13772404
>Jungian gibberish
Of all things this is the worst. The archetypes have more literally value than psychological relevance for god's sake. JBP just talks slick and sells stoic philosophy wrapped in a nice bow.

[Anonymous No.13773187]

>>13771338
Bump for more info

[Anonymous No.13773238]

>>13766918
t. discord tranny

[Anonymous No.13773382]

>nobody has posted it