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Is there an intelligent author that makes a convincing case for democracy without nationalism?

>> No.13714956

Thucydides? Honestly I'm not sure anymore what that guy even wanted.

>> No.13714973

>>13714956
*snap*

>> No.13716323

>>13714722
De Tocqueville's Democracy in America is pretty good at contrasting different culture's effects on democratic governance, as well as contrasting democracy and monarchy.

Not going to help you win an argument out of hand but it's a good perspective if you want to actually learn the ins and outs of a subject

>> No.13716430

Kropotkin binch

>> No.13716652

>>13714722
wait- is spencer not actually coneheaded?
>>13714956
he just wanted to be fair

>> No.13716656

I mean most intelligent people in general do.

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>>13716430
There ya go.

Just read Democracy at Work by Wolff, he doesn’t mention the state that much.
Getting Free by James Herod and this is also in my next to read slot

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>>13716652
No, he is cone headed

>> No.13717043

>>13717037
Are those real?

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>>13717043
Yes, of course

>> No.13717054

>>13717046
serious question: what the fuck did he mean by that homosexuality tweet??

>> No.13717065

>>13714722
Richard Bernt "Peaceful Nazi" Spencer

>> No.13717069

>>13717054
What homosexuality tweet?

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>>13717065
>atheist
dropped

>> No.13717078

>>13717054
Opposition to homosexuality being the last stand of implicit white identity. That is what the thread was about.
Because that's what the GOP, the white conservative party, was about at the time. Now it's buttsex in Botswana though.

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>>13717069
pic rel
>>13717078
Wait so it was an anti homosex tweet? I thought it was pro homosex

>> No.13717085

>>13717080
>I thought it was pro homosex
Come on, dude.
It's more observational than judging. But he's obviously against homosexuality.

>> No.13717091

>>13717080
redpill me on him, is he based or cringe?

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>>13717091
The fuck is the matter with you?

>> No.13717162

>>13717043
no idiot.

>> No.13717174

>>13717091
I don't think he is cringe.

he is extremely well educated and a great communicator. he has a great influence on popular right wing ideas.

he obviously has horrible optics in the media, but part of it is just them autistic screeching because he is a competent opponent

>> No.13717301

>>13717091
Listen to his podcast
https://www.spreaker.com/user/altright/mcspencer-25aug19?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=user%3A9848057&utm_term=episode_title

>> No.13717324

>>13714722
Plato

>> No.13717330

>>13714722
Ethnic nationalism or civic nationalism?

>> No.13717336

>>13717091
He's retarded on anything that isn't in the US since he's a white civic nationalist, someone tried to explain to him that Poles aren't the same as Scots and he just kinda shut down.

>> No.13717342

>>13717091
Not well liked in the right wing nationalist sphere but these people are neurotic spergs that like no one with a bit of success

>> No.13717351

>>13714722
No intelligent author would make a convincing case for democracy nor nationalism

>> No.13717360

>>13717324
>intelligent

>> No.13717366

>>13717091
Kinda cringe, also gay

>> No.13717568

>>13717330
Civic nationalism is an oxymoron.

>> No.13717589

>>13716656
Well let’s hear it

>> No.13717605

>>13717351
Democracy is the most noble of intentions, the thing is making it work, nationalism can help make it work.

>> No.13717733

>>13717336
What do you mean by this

>> No.13717827

>>13714722
Even if Spencer was a LITERAL gay op, I still respect him for getting an Interview with Bowden before he was Heart Attack gunned by SIS