Penguin books

[Anonymous No.13667906]

Wtf is their problem?

[Anonymous No.13667975]

>>13667906
theyre based stfu

[Anonymous No.13667985]

Cheap books for cheapbois

[Anonymous No.13667995]

>>13667906
They’re too based is their problem

[Anonymous No.13667997]

>>13667985
Some of their translations are really wonky.

[Anonymous No.13668036]

>>13667985
there's no need to spend more than what's necessary

[Anonymous No.13668517]

>>13667906
Patrician's choice, right after Loeb and Reclam.

[Anonymous No.13668520]

>>13667906
can't fly

[Anonymous No.13668534]

>>13668036
There's no point in buying cheap copies of books if you could just as easily download copies of them and load them onto an e-reader.

[Anonymous No.13668561]

>>13668534
reading real books is more comfortable and no I'm not a boomer

[Anonymous No.13668645]

>>13667906
books in edition like penguin usually issues (soft and thin carton cover, pages that become yellowish real quick) are three times as cheap in my country
for that money I can afford some really good hardcover edition or maybe even two of them

[Anonymous No.13668665]

>>13668645
>Hardcover books

[Anonymous No.13668678]

>>13668534
Yes there is, studies have shown people remember slightly better when reading from a traditional book vs an e-reader.

[Anonymous No.13668679]

>>13668534
I don't like ereaders.

[Anonymous No.13668686]

>>13668645
nice blog

[Anonymous No.13668690]

>>13668534
>e-readers
Just use PDF you faggots

[Anonymous No.13668725]

>>13668690
But those are just images. For Epubs you can mess around with the font and other stuff

[Anonymous No.13668748]

>>13668725
I know, but it does the job and they're free

[Anonymous No.13668750]

>>13668645
yellow pages are comfy though
I can't be the only one that thinks this, right?
musty yellow pages with a soft texture, they're just nice

[Anonymous No.13668758]

>>13668748
>and they're free
I'm pretty sure no one on /lit/ buys ebooks. Libgen exists.

[Anonymous No.13668760]

>>13668748
there's also free epubs at libgen

[Anonymous No.13668767]

Penguin is trash. They space out works that can easily fit in one volume and make them into a multi-volume series in order to maximize their profit (e.g. making Lovecraft's complete works into 3 books, or Livy's histories into 6 or 7 books, putting one Plato dialogue into a single book when they can fit about a dozen). So you are spending $50+ for what you should be spending about $8 or $9 for. It's a jewy tactic and it's disgusting.
Get Oxford editions instead. They are superior in nearly every way

[Anonymous No.13668791]

>>13668767
Well they're ebooks but I like delphi's ancient classics

[Anonymous No.13668833]

>>13668767
The Lovecraft books are different collections (thematically or otherwise). They never meant nor claimed to do a Complete Works volume. And Oxford is indeed good, but I also like Penguin. Let's not get tribalistic. Both have their victories and their failures.

[Anonymous No.13668880]

>>13667906
GUN TO YOUR HEAD QUESTION TIME
PENGUIN OR OXFORD CLASSICS

[Anonymous No.13668896]

>>13668880
Depends on the book.

[Anonymous No.13668913]

>>13668880
Most of the time the answer is neither.

[Anonymous No.13668916]

>>13668913
What's the alternative then?

[Anonymous No.13668918]

>>13667906
Bad outdated translations

[Anonymous No.13668930]

>>13668916
Depends on the book.

[Anonymous No.13668938]

Animal cruelty. Boycott or steal their books.

[Anonymous No.13668956]

>>13668938
?

[Anonymous No.13668970]

>>13668956
Penguins don't deserve to have their reputation ruined like this.

[Anonymous No.13668988]

>>13668970
penguins can suck my dick. fucking soulless little cunts.

[Anonymous No.13669172]

>>13668750
I absolutely agree.
This is something I really like about books, no matter how old, beat up and yellow they are, they can still be read just fine in most cases, and reading an old book feels very comfy.

[Anonymous No.13669176]

>>13669172
>comfy
what does this even mean

[Anonymous No.13669177]

>>13668534
what a take

[Anonymous No.13669183]

>>13668690
Idiot

[Anonymous No.13669185]

>>13669176
Confortable.

[Anonymous No.13669191]

>>13669185
The word comfy has lost all it's meaning. It's used too broadly

[Anonymous No.13670446]

>>13669183
No u!

[Anonymous No.13670515]

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[Anonymous No.13670518]

>>13668750
I am partial to the unbleached paper penguin use.

[Anonymous No.13670519]

>>13668767
Penguin often use footnotes while Oxford almost always use endnotes.

[Anonymous No.13670522]

>>13668880
Comparing side-by-side the Penguins usually come out on top because of comfy unbleached paper and footnotes. Hate turning to the back for endnotes.

[Anonymous No.13670526]

In my country Oxford is expensive as hell, Penguin is moderately priced, and Everyman's (hardcover) is cheap

[Anonymous No.13670532]

>>13670526
That makes no sense Penguin are cheapskates

[Anonymous No.13670543]

>>13670532
I got a hardcover copy (Everyman's Library) of Meditations for the equalivant of US $5. The Penguin edition is priced at $6

[Anonymous No.13670562]

>>13670543
Don't ever buy penguin editions their books physically are of low quality

[Anonymous No.13670566]

>>13668767
oxford beats penguin most of the time but they both do annoying shit. why can't you get a complete edition of plutarch's lives from either publisher? i want to read the whole thing with each roman paired with one greek like it's supposed to be but all they sell is random subsets of it like "some cool greeks", "some cool greeks 2: we pulled another 6 out of a hat" and "it's time for random romans: director's cut: now with a free king of persia"

[Anonymous No.13670578]

>>13670562
I think it depends on where they're made. The ones in my country are total dogshit, but I have a few made in the UK that are great quality

[Anonymous No.13670783]

Pour moi, c'est les éditions Folio.

[Anonymous No.13670933]

>>13668880
Oxford Classics every time

[Anonymous No.13670989]

>>13670562
who gives a shit? as if anyone of us passes books to their children... i roll penguins like cigarettes and put them into my pocket like a wallet. cash me ousside how bout that??!

[Anonymous No.13671001]

>>13669191
Idk I think its a great term for a lot of situations

[Anonymous No.13671088]

I bought the heraclitean fragments, penguin edition, the translation was SHIT, there was a fragment saying that Pythagoras said that cucumber was one of his incarnations or something, but Heraclitus never said that Pythagoras said that.

[Anonymous No.13671095]

>>13670783
Le papier est très mauvais.

[Anonymous No.13671112]

imagine not buying folio society books.
why even have books?

[Anonymous No.13671615]

>>13671095
Pas lui, mais ça sera toujours meilleur que Gallimard. 20-30€ pour des livres qui tombe en pièce à la lecture ... Des escrocs !

[Anonymous No.13671633]

>>13671112
they're so coooool i keep them right next to my funko pops

[Anonymous No.13672143]

>>13668725
Yeah this is why I use e-readers. I have really poor eyesight with glasses, and I can't stand to lay in bed on my side with glasses on, meaning no point in bothering. I can increase font size on an e-reader though.

[Anonymous No.13672590]

>>13668665
you know paperbacks aren't going to last forever right? if you want durability, hardcover is the way to go, no question.

[Anonymous No.13672630]

>>13672590
Take care of your books geez

[Anonymous No.13672728]

>>13667906
Only worth purchasing if the story was originally written in English.

[Anonymous No.13672814]

>>13667906
>not buying the cheapest, most convenient, unabridged version of the book you want that's in decent condition
literally who gives a fuck about what the publisher's name is or what the cover looks like. I can't imagine somebody reads so many books that publisher loyalty becomes a convenience. a short search on the different versions of whatever book you want takes 2 minutes. I'm all for funposting, but these threads are always the same.

[Anonymous No.13672829]

>>13672590
A semi-good paperback will easily last two or three reads, a good paperback many more.

[Anonymous No.13672863]

>>13672814
>literally who gives a fuck about what the publisher's name is or what the cover looks like
Because then you know exactly what you're getting

[Anonymous No.13672978]

>>13672863
you can know exactly what you're getting when you thumb through the pages at the bookstore. that or reading a couple online reviews. my experience is that 99% of books I've read had absolutely no mechanical failure of any sort, and the only thing that mattered was the words inside, which you can easily find out before purchasing any book.

[Anonymous No.13672999]

>>13672863
>>13672978
Most publishers are fine honestly. I mean some do feel better, In currently reading a novel published by Unionsverlag and despite being a paperback it feels nicer than usual and that's neat but that's about it.

Just take care not to buy those super cheap amazon published books. They are fucking garbage, both in terms of print and feel.

[Anonymous No.13673061]

>>13672978
>>13672999
It's more than that. For example Penguin has a nasty habit of using the same old translations. Some of them are fine but others not so much

[Anonymous No.13673124]

>>13668678
>studies have shown
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.13674511]

>>13673124
https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/76nlig/a_new_study_shows_that_students_learn_way_more/

[Anonymous No.13674520]

>>13670522
don't know what you mean all the Penguins I have have endnotes

[Anonymous No.13674525]

>>13671633
kek FAGGOT BTFO

[Anonymous No.13674540]

>>13670522
Don't know what you mean but all the Penguins I own have endnotes while my Oxford Paradise Lost has footnotes. It depends on the edition.

[Anonymous No.13674541]

>>13667906
Someone has to be the worst of the mid-range books. At least they're not the lowest quality.

[Anonymous No.13674735]

>>13672630
>>13672829
it doesn't matter how much you take care of it. the spines break, the paper ages, the pages separate from the cheap glued binding, etc. paperbacks aren't built to last. eventually it's going to fall apart. but a good hardcover with smyth-sewn binding and acid free paper can literally last several lifetimes (we're talking hundreds of years).

[Anonymous No.13674753]

>>13674735
stop buying shitty paperbacks

[Anonymous No.13674815]

>>13674753
all paperbacks are cheaply made. obviously mass market paperbacks are the lowest quality, but even good trade paperbacks are at most going to last you like 10 years, and that's if you take really good care of them. if you're cool buying them knowing you're inevitably going to have to replace them, fine, but me, once i develop a new favorite or find myself re-reading a book multiple times, i like to invest in a nice hardcover copy that i know is going to last me my entire life.

[Anonymous No.13675568]

>>13668988

[Anonymous No.13675590]

>>13674815
I bought some paperbacks in 2011 (roughly 10 years ago) and they're still in good quality. Just don't be a pigfuck and any book can last more than what's supposed to.

[Anonymous No.13675594]

>>13670519
Not really. All the Penguin books I have use footnotes.

[Anonymous No.13675640]

>>13674511
>reddit
>a legitimate source
>not just linking the study itself
am I on fucking rationalwiki?

[Anonymous No.13675645]

>>13675590
yeah, but how often do you re-read them? a book you re-read, say, once a year is not going to last a lifetime regardless of how well you treat it. if you buy a nice everyman's library or loa hardcover, you're going to have it for the rest of your life. i'm not saying "fuck paperbacks". they have their use (most of the books I own are paperback). but they aren't meant for collecting/long term durability.

[Anonymous No.13676111]

>>13675640
I did in fact consider linking the study itself, but I suspected that linking the reddit thread would elicit an angry response from someone and result in me getting a dopamine hit from the reply.

[Anonymous No.13676131]

>>13675645
yeah, but sadly many books I want are not available in harcover.

[Anonymous No.13676142]

>>13675640
the actual link is in the reddit page. reddit is the messenger, not the source.

[Anonymous No.13676409]

>>13673124
Source: I was there when the study was conducted -- astral projection.

[Anonymous No.13676438]

Never buying Penguin again after my copy of Count of Monte Cristo disintegrated and is now a bunch of single sheets stuffed inside a scarred spine. I've seen mass-market paperbacks put up with more abuse than I ever gave that book (which was very little).

[Anonymous No.13676556]

>>13676131
yes i know that feeling. unfortunately, you can't always find everything in hardcover, especially if you favor a particular translation (most publishers just produce paperback nowadays since that's what most people buy), but all things being equal, i recommend investing in good quality hardcovers for your favorites if you can find them.

[Anonymous No.13676710]

>>13676111
good post desu

[Anonymous No.13676725]

>>13676556
>look for pretty hardcover of russian literature
>only garnett and literally who translators available

[Anonymous No.13676758]

>>13674815
>but even good trade paperbacks are at most going to last you like 10 years
Absolute bullshit. My dad has paperbacks from his parents that have been read many times. They hold up just fine. Of course hardbacks hold up better but this notion that paperbacks will disintegrate if you look at them too hard is so ridiculous. They can absolutely last a lifetime if you’re just gentle with them.