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>> No.13647819

You’re fucking retarded. The limits of your own narrow perspective doesn’t reflect the actuality of what is produced you moron.

>> No.13647825
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13647825

one of the most important books mankind has created was written in the past 100 years

>> No.13647827

James Joyce (Ireland): "Ulysses" (1922)
Marcel Proust (France): "In Search of Lost Time" (1922)
Italo Svevo (Italy): "Zeno's Conscience" (1923)
Andre' Gide (France): "The Counterfeiters" (1925)
Francis-Scott Fitzgerald (USA): "The Great Gatsby" (1925)
Arthur Schnitzler: "Traumnovelle/ Dream Story" (1925)
Virginia Woolf (Britain): "To the Lighthouse" (1927)
Julien Green (France): "Adrienne Mesurat" (1927)
Mihail Sadoveanu (Romania): "Ancuta's Inn" (1928)
Stanislaw Witkiewicz (Poland): "Insatiability" (1930)
Vladislav Vancura (Czech): "Marketa Lazarova" (1931)
Louis-Ferdinand Celine (France): "Journey to the End of the Night" (1932)
William Faulkner (USA): "Light in August" (1932)
Miguel de Unamuno y Jugo (Spain): "San Manuel Bueno Martir" (1933)
Robert Musil (Austria): "The Man Without Qualities" (1933)
Karel Capek (Czech): "An Ordinary Life" (1934)
Elias Canetti (Germany): "Auto Da Fe" (1935)
Flann O'Brien (Ireland): "At Swim-two-birds" (1939)
Joseph Roth (Austria): "The Legend of the Holy Drinker" (1939)
Mikhail Bulgakov (Russia): "The Master and Margarita" (1940)
Albert Camus (France): "The Stranger" (1942)
Hermann Broch (Austria): "The Death of Virgil" (1945)
Julien Gracq (France): "A Dark Stranger" (1945)
Malcolm Lowry (Britain): "Under the Volcano" (1947)
Tanizaki Junichiro (Japan): "Makioka Sisters" (1948)
Cesare Pavese (Italy): "The Moon and the Bonfires" (1950)
Alejo Carpentier (Cuba): "The Lost Steps" (1953)
Rafael Sanchez-Ferlosio (Spain): "The River El Jarama" (1955)
William Gaddis (USA): "The Recognitions" (1955)
Elsa Morante (Italy): "Arthur's Island" (1957)
Patrick White (Australia): "Voss" (1957)
Augusto Roa-Bastos (Paraguay): "Son of Man" (1959)
Wilson Harris (Guyana): "Palace of the Peacock" (1960)
Ernesto Sabato (Argentina): "Of Heroes and Tombs" (1961)

>> No.13647833

>>13647827
Hugo Claus (Belgium): "Amazement" (1962)
Beppe Fenoglio (Italy): "A Private Question" (1963)
CarloEmilio Gadda (Italy): "Acquainted with Grief" (1963)
Ismail Kadare (Albania): "The General of the Dead Army" (1963)
Janet Frame (New Zealand): "Scented Gardens For The Blind" (1963)
Julio Cortazar (Argentina): "Hopscotch" (1963)
Carlos Fuentes (Mexico): "The Death of Artemio Cruz" (1964)
Saul Bellow (USA): "Herzog" (1964)
John Barth (USA): "Giles Goat Boy" (1966)
Jose Lezama-Lima (Cuba): "Paradise" (1966)
Mario Vargas-Llosa (Peru): "The Green House" (1966)
Miguel Delibes (Spain): "Five Hours with Mario" (1966)
Gabriel Garcia-Marquez (Colombia): "One Hundred Years of Solitude" (1967)
Milan Kundera (Czech): "The Joke" (1967)
Thomas Bernhard (Austria): "Gargoyles" (1967)
Vladimir Nabokov (Russia): "Ada" (1969)
Michel Tournier (France): "The Ogre" (1970)
Danilo Kis (Serbia): "Hourglass" (1972)
Thomas Pynchon (USA): "Gravity's Rainbow" (1973)
Andreas Embirikos (Greece): "The Great Eastern" (1975)
Imre Kertesz (Hungary): "Fateless" (1975)
Juan Goytisolo (Spain): "Juan the Landless" (1975)
Sasha Sokolov (Canada): "School For Fools" (1976)
Barbara Pym (Britain): "Quartet in Autumn" (1977)
Josef Skvorecky (Czech): "The Engineer of Human Souls" (1977)
Georges Perec (France): "La Vie Mode d'Emploi/ A User's Manual" (1978)
Cormac McCarthy (USA): "Suttree" (1979)
Italo Calvino (Italy): "If On a Winter's Night a Traveler" (1979)
Nadine Gordimer (South Africa): "Burger's Daughter" (1979)
Salman Rushdie (India): "Midnight's Children" (1980)
Elfriede Jelinek (Germany): "Die Ausgesperrten/ Wonderful Times" (1980)
German Espinosa (Colombia): "The Weaver of Crowns" (1982)
Uwe Johnson (Germany): "Jahrestage/ Anniversaries" (1983)
Jose Saramago (Portugal): "The Year of the Death of Ricardo Reis" (1984)
Mahmud Dowlatabadi (Iran): "Kelidar" (1984)
Murakami Haruki (Japan): "Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World" (1985)
Laszlo Krasznahorkai (1954): "Satantango" (1985)
Peer Hultberg (Denmark): "Requiem" (1985)
Peter Nadas (1942): "Emlekiratok Konyve/ Book of Memoirs" (1986)
Joseph McElroy (USA): "Women and Men" (1987)
Milorad Pavic (Serbia): "Dictionary of the Khazars" (1988)
Gao Xingjian/Xingjian (China): "Soul Mountain" (1989)
Antonia Byatt (Britain): "Possession" (1990)
Agustina Bessa-Luis (Portugal): "Abraham's Valley" (1991)

>> No.13647836

>>13647814
>he hasn't read Deleuze yet

>> No.13647842
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>>13647814
Dude this has been Pynchon's most active period

>> No.13647846

>>13647842
shut the fuck up

>> No.13647848

>>13647814
The 20th century was the golden of literature, far surpassing any other period in history.
Please leave the board now, we don't need your nonsense here.

>> No.13647849

ITT people who don't know what "almost" mean.

>> No.13647854

>>13647849
Name a century that had more masterpieces than the 20th century

>> No.13647858

>>13647854
By "masterpieces" you mean the list someone posted here?

>> No.13647866

>>13647858
It can mean whatever you want, name a better century in literature

>> No.13647867

>>13647849
The list of books mentioned itt is already more than "almost nothing". How many masterpieces from earlier centuries have you even heard about?

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>>13647867
>The list of books mentioned itt is already more than "almost nothing".

>> No.13647876

>>13647874
We're still waiting for a century with more and better liturature

>> No.13647880

how would you know, chantard.

>> No.13647902

>>13647876
around 400-300 bc

>> No.13647925

>>13647902
Plato, Aristotle and xenophon
Some old testament books
A couple Chinese War strategy books.

Not bad, but the 20th century was still more prolific in books worth reading. Even if you disagree the OP is still wrong (you'd have to give several other centuries with better literature)

>> No.13647944

>>13647874
I would take your reaction in earnest if I hadn't so many reasons to assume you've actually read very little from any century. For some reason yours does not look like the post of a based scholar of 16th century literature.

>> No.13647977

>>13647902
You are joking, right?

>> No.13648049

>>13647977
The century before and the century after both had more/better literature

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>>13647925
>100x the population
>only 1% of books survived from the ancients
Neolibs get the fuck out.

>> No.13648177

>>13647814
Read the postmodernists, because it sounds like you're estranged from all existing cultures and coming from a perspective based in social isolation. Their works will be worthwhile to you then.

>> No.13648188

>>13648088
We are talking about books we can read not some abstract hypothetical

>> No.13648205

>>13647814
This is just your excuse for not reading.

>> No.13648334

> Almost nothing of worth has been marketed to me exclusively in the past 100 years

Do you not think buisness plays a role here? Do you honestly believe every who was around 100 years ago are smarter than the greatest writers alive now?

>> No.13648338

>>13647854
>>13647814
Read Wyndham Lewis : )

>> No.13648341

>>13648188
These are not abstract hypotheticals. They are glossed, and thereby concrete

>> No.13648374
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>>13647814
Being and Time
The Origin of the Work of Art
Introduction to Metaphysics
The Question Concerning Technology

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>>13648341
It takes more than glosses to establish something as great literature and make it influential. The premise of this thread is idiotic.

>> No.13648388

>>13648341
You are making a hypothesis that the 99% that didn't survive is good and worth reading. But we can't read them because they are lost

>> No.13648391

>>13647814
>Almost nothing of worth has been written in the past 100 years
The most obvious example, this thread.

>> No.13648398

>>13648381
The great artist's opinion is a fine heuristic to judge art; the sheer amount lost, yet glossed in great works makes it inconceivable for me to disregard their intuition and state that our current canon is more replete.

>> No.13648422

>>13648398
That's fine for you, but it's illogical and changes nothing. The sheer amount of work being produced has increased exponentially, as has literacy, knowledge, experimentation, etc. The past can't compare to the present because we build one from the other.

>> No.13648443

In terms of philosophy, you could probably say "1000 years"

>> No.13648459

OP is retarded

>> No.13648692

>>13647827
>>13647833
All shit

>> No.13648702

>>13647827
>>13647833
>reading fiction
ugh

>> No.13648728

>>13648692
>>13648702

>> No.13648738

>>13648692
What are some good books then? I've still only seen one other century suggested to have better literature.

>> No.13648819

>>13647827
>>13647833
Seems like a list of books written by some pseudo intellectual liberal.

>> No.13648930

>>13647827
Some great stuff
>>13647833
All trash

Confirms that OP was a faggot. Nothing of worth has been written in the past 50 years though.

>>13648738
17th century, easy.
At least if you're not Anglo.

>> No.13649263

>>13648930
Nabokov, Bernhard, Mccarthy, Krasznahorkai, pynchon, mcilroy, Calvino . These are all great writers

>> No.13649291

>>13647814
>feminism is 100 years old
Hmm

>> No.13649330

>>13647814
Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe series by itself justifies the entirety of the Anglo-Saxon literary tradition.

>> No.13649346

your wong

>> No.13649353

>>13648177
this is good advice

>> No.13649354

>>13648188
KYS

>> No.13649365

>>13647833
>(Mexico): Death of Artemio Cruz
Sorry, but Pedro Páramo is the patrician choice.

>> No.13649473

>>13648422
It is fine for men who are not merely mechanical

>> No.13649491

>>13648422
plus, how do you expect to triumph logic when heuristics dictate human thinking in reality?

The philosophical man is not the man of action and reality.

>> No.13649501

>>13647814
What makes you qualified to make that judgement. How many books written in the past 100 years have you read?
2/10 bait

>> No.13649502

reminder: all great literature is contemporary for those who know how to read

>> No.13649529

>>13649501
art is a truer representation of the currents of culture which coalesce into society than politics and history. If the society is shit, then the art is.

Also, we live in an age of quantity and conformism as opposed to quality; do you think that I have to read every YA novel to be able to judge YA novels as a general category?

no. Most of what is produced is the same with ever smaller differentiation in the form of it; the essence is the same schlock.

BTW I actually prefer the modern period of lit to the ancient; I just disagree with the implications of your argument

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>When speaking of modern art, the first thing to mention is its “intimate” quality, typical of a feminine spirituality that wants nothing to do with great historic and political forces; out of morbid sensitivity (sometimes brought about by a trauma), it retreats into the world of the artist’s private subjectivity, valuing only the psychologically and aesthetically “interesting.” The works of Joyce, Proust, and Gide mark the extreme in this tendency in literature.
>In the majority of literary works, in short stories, dramas, and novels, the regime of residues persists, with its typical forms of subjective dissociation. Their constant background, rightly called the “fetishism of human relationships,” consists of the insignificant, sentimental, sexual, or social problems of insignificant individuals, reaching the extreme of dullness and banality in a certain epidemic type of American novel.

>> No.13649634

>>13649529
How old are you?

>> No.13649761

>>13647827
>>13647833
I'm pretty sure OP meant that there hasn't been an epic that singlehandedly caused a culture/belief shift in the population, but even then he's still full of shit.

>> No.13649785

>>13649634
my age is on the clock Daddy