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>Starting with the twelve-year-olds—one team in black spandex that looks like cheesecake leotards—there is, I’m afraid, a frank sexuality that begins to get uncomfortable. You can already see some of the sixteen-year-olds out under the basketball hoop doing little warm-up twirls and splits, and they’re disturbing enough to make me wish there was a copy of the state’s criminal statutes handy and prominent.

What on Earth did he mean by this?

>> No.13645241

We all know DFW was a creep. Just reading his Wikipedia page can tell you that.

>> No.13645243

>>13644760
The guck is a cheesecake leotard?

>> No.13645786
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13645786

>>13645243
Cheesecake; softcore porn
Leotards; back in the 80s and 90s, when leotards were considered sexy

>> No.13646085

>>13645786
shave the cunt so its nice and spikey then strangle it with stretchy fabric so it bursts out the sides

clearly a jew job

>> No.13646098

>>13645241
care to explain?
I tried googling and every article is unbearably obsessed with coparing white sexual offenders with non white ones so I don't think I can trust them

>> No.13646104

>>13644760
based

>> No.13646113

Life gets boring after a while. Eventually even pedophilia gets boring.

>> No.13646155
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>>13644760
>He gets a glimpse of Margherita and her daughter, but there is a
density of orgy-goers around them that keeps him at a distance. He knows he's vulnerable, more than he should be, to pretty little girls, so he reckons it's just as well, because that Bianca's a knockout, all right: 11 or 12, dark and lovely, wearing a red chiffon gown, silk stockings and high-heeled slippers, her hair swept up elaborate and flawless and interwoven with a string of pearls to show pendant earrings of crystal twinkling from her tiny lobes . . . help, help. Why do these things have to keep coming down on him? He can see the obit now in Time magazine—Died, Rocketman, pushing 30, in the Zone, of lust.

I'm sensing a pattern here.

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>>13645241

>> No.13646599

>>13646405
>tour the mouths of the Korean peninsula
based

>sweat rag in Serena Williams' personal kit
...nevermind, cringe

>> No.13646624

>>13646155
Why are writers such pedos?

>> No.13646642

>>13646624
Because they are smart

>> No.13646726

>>13646405
No way is this real

>> No.13646742

>>13646726
it's actually nick land

>> No.13646760

>>13646624
i have thought about this subject a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that there are two kinds of pedos, just like there are two kinds of gays. One are just like that, and they just want actual children and don't like adult women. The other develop a fetish for teenagers and children due to various tendencies within themselves, but it's solipsistic, they don't really love the kids at all, they're just using them as sexual objects.Theyll still fuck adults, they just have fetishized some aspect of the child.

I think that second group can be healed, because it's just fetishistic hedonism, the former group though need to be castrated or something, they're just wired wrong. The second group is way bigger than the first one, there are entire tribes where the majority of the men engage in pederasty, which means the behavior can be learned.

Im not a pedo myself but I do idealize children because of their innocence, and I can sort of see how you would jump from that to sexual impulses if you just indulged in a fetish. That's the main reason I think cp should be completely banned, because owning it doesn't really hurt anyone, but it can turn people into predators, and whenever someone posts it on this site, I can see exactly how the two impulses would merge.

Writers are usually kind of mentally wild and it's not hard for their brains to rearrange to accept taboo impulses. Nabokov for example clearly had tendencies towards that, despite his proclamations to the contrary, you can't write that stuff without sort of getting it, I think he just overrode it, which is the correct path to take.

also women have this just as much as men, the amount of pedo women who predate on boys or girls is very high, and it's pushed under the rug as most crimes by women are. I was myself technically raped by a 32 year old woman when I was 13, i didnt see it as rape at the time i just thought it was cool because i was like being an adult, but looking at pictures of myself back then, my baby face and soft clear skin, I think it was pretty clear why that woman did what she did. I've never told anyone ever about that either, not a single person who knows me knows that happened and i don't want to tell them, I still feel that i really lost my virginity at 16 with my first gf, because that time wasn't really sex, it was just weird, we didnt even kiss, she just undressed me and sucked my dick and then went on top of me until i came, and she sort of laughed, and then we did more lines of coke until I felt weird and i left, and rode the train home crying while listening to elliot smith, but after I calmed down i didnt feel wronged, it was like some secret i had.

It kind of made me convinced that it is wrong for older people to be with younger people, even if they think they look pretty or whatever. It just made me so sad after a while that memory and that i cant tell anybody about it, i sometimes present a sanitized version of it but i cant just say it.

>> No.13646784

>>13646742
Holy shit I gotta read this guy

>> No.13646788

>>13646784
im sorry anon i fooled you, i actually don't know who wrote that

>> No.13646834

>>13646788
I trusted you anon. You slut.

>> No.13646855

>>13644760
And then he critisized Updike for being pedophile sex addict?

>> No.13646882

>>13646624
Pynchon learned under Nabokov, and was clearly channelling him in GR.

DFW loved Pynchon, and clearly channelled both writers in A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again.

>> No.13646898

>>13646834
i'm so sorry anon how can i make you forgive me

>> No.13647936

>>13646760
>i have thought about this subject a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that there are two kinds of pedos
Amusingly psychologist think pretty much the same as you. Regressed pedophiles vs fixated pedophiles, the former lust after adult women but can't quite get them so they settle for the comparatively easier mode of hitting on teenager as a grown man. The later think of themselves child in their head and only want to be with children.

You're also right about women, we tend too often to imagine only men are widely beset by wicked impulses, when nasty sexuality is a universal thing.

Sorry about that rape teacher thing. However cool it might have seemed at the time it's pretty fucked up. Don't agree with you on the age thing but only because it's possible for, say, 25 years old to get along with 45 years old.

>> No.13647997

>>13646624
(((Postmodernism)))

>> No.13648619
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>>13644760

Reminder that there is an ABOMINABLE sex-child-sex continuum connecting parental impulses to pedophilic ones. NO ONE will even acknowledge it because it's simply too awful. Apocalypse is for our sake.

>> No.13648656

>>13646742
Calling bullshit, no recognizable phrases from that pasta return any results in google. I assume it was just something an anon wrote up for the meme.

>> No.13648680

>>13644760

That segment put me in tears of laughter, the batons hurtling into the crowd taking people out had me crying

>> No.13648851

>>13646624
It's called irony, brainlet

>> No.13649225

>>13647936
>comparatively easier mode
Nah, that's old woman cope. In practice it's significantly easier to bone random 24yo tho, than spend months grooming a child and dealing with their kiddy bullshit drama.

Regressed pedos are just men who are controlled by their libido. And libido says to go for 14-19.

>> No.13649250

>>13649225
not really, both are easy, if you have access to younger girls and meet older women daily. The main problem with girls is that sooner or later the relationship will end and then (if not before it) they will likely tell other people what happened, once it gets out the man is fucked.
Men who go for younger girls usually are aware of this, that at some point they will end in jail, but the rush of the moment is just so great and what is one going to do in old age anyway? work until 70 then live off a meager pension, or fuck the system and leech off taxpayers and not work for good 10-20 years

>> No.13649286

>>13647936
>Amusingly psychologist think pretty much the same as you. Regressed pedophiles vs fixated pedophiles, the former lust after adult women but can't quite get them so they settle for the comparatively easier mode of hitting on teenager as a grown man. The later think of themselves child in their head and only want to be with children.
That’s waaaay harsher than what he said. Psychology is a joke.

>> No.13649320

>>13649250
There's slight biological basis - young males, until 20 or so prefer their own age. As they near age of their death, that is 25-30 they start look for lolis. There's quite simple equilibrium for that in sperm competition and paternal investment, but I guess it's hopeless to wave primatology in face of psychologists.

So how "Going after lolis because it's easy" came to be? Because you study only pathological cases where you see he "exploited her naivete, family trust etc" and say Eureka! "he's pedo because it's easy!". No, people like Epstein don't need to exploit anyone's naivete, it's simply what they really want. And the few pedos I've met who weren't the sleazy uncle types and wen't after a stranger all said the same story - they spent ridiculous amounts of effort and got involved in stupid drama just to bone a loli, all the while they had no problem attracting someone their age (think somewhat rich and stable older men in a trad culture where that still counts for something).

>> No.13649338

>>13649320
>As they near age of their death, that is 25-30
what

>> No.13649347

>>13648619
Melancholia

>> No.13649350

>>13649338
As far as our sexual drives are involved, all evolutionary adaptions primarily cater to 12-30yo age. This is because until very recently, 90% of people rarely lived past 30.

>> No.13649361

>>13649347

?

>> No.13649388

>>13649320
>they spent ridiculous amounts of effort and got involved in stupid drama just to bone a loli, all the while they had no problem attracting someone their age
it isnt harder to attract a loli (a stranger) than a woman of their age, that is once you get to know them its easy in both cases
also, some men dont really mind (teenage) drama, its one of the things that make it exciting

>> No.13649396

>>13646405

He's not wrong you know.
True VR would be the end of civilization for pretty much that exact reason.

>> No.13649399

>>13649388
That’s still a retarded point. Some men are actual pedophiles and some are perverts is sensical and way less biased than some men are mental children and some men are sexual failures. Psychology must be one big unscientific cope for women.

>> No.13649417

>>13649399
I dont disagree

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>>13649350
>This is because until very recently, 90% of people rarely lived past 30.

>> No.13649460

>>13645241
I'll ask again, anyone have the quote where he threatened to beat up a student because he dared to laugh at a female student's silly question?

>> No.13649461

>>13649388
Again, it's probably pointless to argue against psychology books as they have their normative ways to "explain" things. Who cares what monkeys and primitive tribes do, right?

If they just wanted drama, why not go for someone who's 18? They're still dumb as rock teenagers, heck many are the same way well into their 20s.

>> No.13649469

>>13649460
why do things like these always happen to others? if professor ever threatened me with physical violence I would gladly accept it right there in the classroom, I would even let him have the first punch, then I would murder him lol

>> No.13649481

>>13649461
I guess 16-19 is similar, but at 10 to 12 and 13 to 15 they have somewhat different personalities than an 18 year old, in others words if one wants to experience that he needs to go after younger girls

>> No.13649497

>>13649250
>Men who go for younger girls usually are aware of this, that at some point they will end in jail, but the rush of the moment is just so great and what is one going to do in old age anyway?
Jouissance

>> No.13649515

>>13649469
I know right? It's laughable. I would demolish him faster than he could say "and but so"

>> No.13649516

>>13649481
You really think epstein was thrilled about the personalities of the little cunts? Or that old geezers seeking out prostitutes under 20 is thrilled about personality of such a brat?

You romanticize shit too much - most certainly the naivete can help, but its not the *cause* of targeting. It's just a mechanism and it can be anything - grooming, prostitution, kidnapping. The central plot line you have in there is lust.

>> No.13649539

>>13649516
I always remember John McAfee and his 16yo gf who stole his money and almost offed him and think of her as "poor naive exploited soul". I'm sure he loved her for her naivete and sparkly personality, nothing to do with her body. I'm sure his age match, a 45yo mom with naive personality would do just as well.

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>>13649516
I think he was, he could have easily hired prostitutes even 18 year old ones (and he probably did) but he did hang out with that roberts girl and several others for a long time

>> No.13649651

>>13649350
that's not how life expectancy works you colossal tard. just because a primitive society had a leb of 30 doesn't mean they all dropped dead at 30, how do you not know what an average is

>> No.13649999

>>13649651
Which part of 90% you don't get? As for life expectancy you're sperging about, it was around 10 back then. Violent times, infant mortality.