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I know already that there are a bunch of charts of start with the Greeks and resume with the Romans and what not. As well as some charts with the history of legal philosophy and the writing of specific philosophers but what I'm more concerned with is the act of studying them itself. How does one study the classics in the most effective way and come out with the most without wasting his time. There are some university programs that teach classics and I've always wandered it is it that they teach in there besides its giving people a list of books and say "read in this order." Besides just reading how can you improve your studying so you get the most out of it. I ask because I don't think just reading is enough and I feel like there is more to it than just texts to read. I'm probably missing something and would like to know what.

>> No.13620660

>>13620642
You have to learn Ancient Greek

>> No.13620665

>>13620660
Working on it. I'll start with attic then move on to koine then finish with Latin.

And for nine academic study but more for fun I'm studying French.

>> No.13620677

>>13620660
>>13620665
>>13620642
The absolute state of non-translation fags.

I’m currently neckdeep In Aristotle motherfuckers. This isn’t exactly easy to do, have fun wasting your time with learning new languages. Mastering Plato and Aristotle alone takes like two years

>> No.13620683

A classics degree is basically
1. learning the languages
2. learning the specific texts you want to study
3. learning the historical and linguistic context of the texts you want to study

Most people spend most of their time on #1 because most people are bad at learning languages and need 2-4 years to do what could be done in one. Of the remainder, most people in classics majors and especially classics graduate programs focus on #2 to the exclusion of #3. Actually, add another category:
4. faggoty watered-down pomo "theory" that isn't even the real original theory but a sanitized, easier version so that AIDS studies majors can understand it

Most classics (and, fun fact, also medieval studies) majors are now writing a BA/PhD thesis like "Gender and Embodiment in Ovid's Metamorphoses, Book 7," with "embodiment" being the trendy buzzword of the demi-decade. If you want to not be a worthless fucking piece of shit like these people, and remember these are the people studying at the top programs in the world like Princeton, Yale, Harvard, and so on, you can do what people a century ago did: learn the languages, study specific texts you find particularly interesting in depth, and don't skimp on learning the historical and linguistic contexts of the texts you want to study.

If you just want a quick motivation for suicide, learn classical history, enter the second or third highest ranked Classics PhD program in the world, and then ask your """peers""" simple questions about the historical situation of the text they claim to be spending a decade studying, like what century the author lived in. Either your question will be dodged, or you will receive a long lecture about how you are whitesplaining classics to a latinx trans-amputee.

>> No.13620693

>>13620683
the postmodern neomarxists at it again

>> No.13620706

>>13620683
Hot, this is the answer I was looking for. Thanks anon.

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13620714

>>13620693
Yea, quit exaggerating with this Jordan Peterson "cultural marxism" conspiracy theory!

>> No.13620733

>>13620714
the absolute state of men

>> No.13620778

>>13620660
you first pseud

>> No.13621941

>>13620778
I already know Greek, Sanskrit, and Sumerian, pleb.

>> No.13622011

>>13621941
>Sumerian
Even the best in the field have at best reached a level fluency comparable to the level fluency a person graduating from school would have in his naitive tongue.