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[Anonymous No.13565059]

What do YOU identify as politically?

[Anonymous No.13565060]

>>13565059
Marxist

[Anonymous No.13565063]

>>13565059
a powerless faggot

[Anonymous No.13565065]

>>13565060
Yikes

[Anonymous No.13565066]

>>13565059
Spencerian anarchist.

[Anonymous No.13565069]

>>13565059
Neo-reactionary

[Anonymous No.13565075]

>>13565059
social democrat

[Anonymous No.13565090]

>>13565059
Transhumanist-anarchist

[Anonymous No.13565094]

>>13565059
Marxist

[Anonymous No.13565095]

i am a marxist-nietzschist

[Anonymous No.13565102]

>>13565063
This

[Anonymous No.13565103]

>>13565059
Left-conservative

[Anonymous No.13565104]

Alcoholic

[Anonymous No.13565119]

>>13565060
>>13565066
>>13565075
>>13565094
>>13565095
>>13565103
cringe

[Anonymous No.13565125]

None. Not in the sense of "I don't want to participate :(", but that I don't think my viewset falls in line with any "identity".

[Anonymous No.13565126]

post titoist-prim-trumpian-sovietism radical islamic-dengist

[Anonymous No.13565132]

>>13565059
tony... easy on the flakes

[Anonymous No.13565138]

>>13565059
Why is he so big?

[Anonymous No.13565143]

>>13565059
Anarcho fascist with slight capitalist leaning

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13565145]

>>13565059
You mean like what mascot would I pick?

>>13565138
For you

[Anonymous No.13565147]

>>13565138
that animal is dead.
an animal's life purpose is to survive and reproduce but they castrated him and locked him giving him all that he needs

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13565148]

>>13565143
So liberal. You’re literally a right-liberal
Nothing anarchist about it.

[Anonymous No.13565150]

>>13565147
Just like us

[Anonymous No.13565160]

An attack helicopter.

[Anonymous No.13565162]

>>13565160
reddit

[Anonymous No.13565194]

>>13565059
A fat tiger of course.

[Anonymous No.13565206]

YES

[Anonymous No.13565215]

ironically: Royalist syndicalist
unironically: National syndicalist

[Anonymous No.13565222]

>>13565059
Marxist Leninist

[Anonymous No.13565230]

>>13565059
whatever angers you the most

[Anonymous No.13565232]

>>13565222
fag

[Anonymous No.13565236]

>>13565059

[Anonymous No.13565239]

>>13565232
was meant for >>13565059

[Anonymous No.13565294]

True Neutral.

Not in the gay radical centrist kinda way.
But in the ensuring everything is politically balanced way; so that no political group gets too powerful. The whole system works best when it's balanced, like a tight rope requiring all the spots to be manned on both sides to produce equal tension. It produces the best results.

[Anonymous No.13565307]

>>13565059
Hard-left "eat the rich" economics, but plenty of guns and minimal abortion. So I'm shit out of luck in the US.

[Anonymous No.13565310]

>>13565059
conservative with a communitarian bent

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13565320]

>>13565294
Doing a shit job so far. Things have been horribly rightwing liberal and solidly capitalist, primitive and modern for centuries now. No balance yet

[Anonymous No.13565350]

>>13565222
Based. Same

[Anonymous No.13565354]

deepwater post-maoist

[Anonymous No.13565358]

>>13565294
>>13565160
>>13565143
>>13565119
>>13565069
Cringe

[Anonymous No.13565359]

>>13565310
>communitarian
conservatives are almost by default communitarian

[Anonymous No.13565361]

>>13565222
How can you remain faithful after reading the scathing critiques of Hegel on this board, or are you just willfully ignorant? In which case, I would ask you: how is this not counter-revolutionary dogmatism?

[Anonymous No.13565362]

there are no good political systems

[Anonymous No.13565365]

>>13565358
dilate

[Anonymous No.13565368]

Esoteric Marxist-Nixonist

[Anonymous No.13565369]

d'annunzio stan

[Anonymous No.13565371]

>>13565063
fucking this

[Anonymous No.13565379]

>>13565059
I like to think of myself as a comitted Esoteric Hitlerist National Socialist Revolutionary, I'm, should I say, a very spiritual hippie dippie sort of new age nazi. I'm an O9A Nexion and a theistic satanist of the numinous path of pathei mathos and a pilgrim of the black sun as revealed to Savitri Devi and Meister Serrano, a knight of Agartha devout to Kalki .My critically aclaimed musical project seamlessly channels neofolk, harsh noise, NSBM, drone, minimalism underground and industrial. I donate to Sam Hyde's patreon every month.I consider it my duty as a patriot and as american citizen. Remember the martyrs of Waco and Ruby Ridge, remember political prisioners Tim McVeigh and Charles Manson. Read SIEGE by James Mason. Read SIEGE, Faggot.

>he Order of Nine Angles is a Nazi-Satanist “group” (or Nazi Occult as they prefer to describe themselves) that promotes a supernatural, hateful system of thought which condemns liberal, Judeo-Christian society and longs for a new imperial age created by a ludicrous sub-Nietzschean superman figure called ‘Vindex.’ Ultimately, the O9A elite aspires to colonise the solar system.

>The racist order deifies Hitler and the Third Reich, which are regarded as having attempted to create a “Satanic empire” in order to achieve the destiny of the western world.

>The O9A believes civilisation must be undermined and destroyed from within, so adherents are encouraged to be as grubby and horrible as they like – committing crimes, random acts of violence, sexual assaults, and even the “culling” of human victims.

>The three volumes of The Black Book of Satan are considered so extreme that they are kept is a special section of the British Library and not available to the general public. There is repeated talk of “culling”, committing acts of violence and destabilisation and even terrorism. In the The Dreccian Way, an O9A training manual written by leader Richard Moult, followers are encouraged not just to commit crime, but to “spread it, encourage it, incite it, support it”.

[Anonymous No.13565383]

>>13565379
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.13565384]

I have completely lost all ability to identify with any alignment, even centrists can piss me off even though I might qualify as one

I've been liking Andrew Yang though

[Anonymous No.13565396]

>>13565150
Fugg

[Anonymous No.13565400]

>>13565384
Why would a centrist piss you off?

How did society get so fucked up that you get pissed off at centrists? That pisses me off.

This board could be roughly described as an accumulation of god-fearing centrists, whose ideas on morality are defined from the Bible and a close circumspection of the scientific and moral truths of today.

[Anonymous No.13565413]

>>13565400
It's not centrism itself ( assuming centrism just means "addressing every issue individually") it's the smarmy "both sides are freakin' idiots!" attitude I see a lot

Basically I've realized that no matter what I believe, ethically politically or even sometimes factually, there will always be someone smarter than me who has a good argument for the exact opposite

[Anonymous No.13565425]

>>13565320
The Left has too much cultural and institutional power. A lot of this stuff fixes itself organically, but it's better to nip it in the bud early than have the imbalance be multigenerational. While individually I'm not omnipotent, ethically I can do my part to preserve the balance of things by supporting the spots on the chain that are the weakest.

Ideology is for the weak minded anyway; a heuristic for the weak-minded. Nihilistic secular theologies to enslave the modern man. A post-ideological world seems preferable, though the mass philosophical drive that replaces this is still unknown. Though I'd prefer a resurgence of metaphysics as a antithesis to the hypermaterialism. Perhaps some sort of "neo-religious" movement that moves the ball forward rather than lazily riding on the coattails of centuries old theologians.
Humanity longs to be reunited with its soul.

[Anonymous No.13565429]

A liberal with Chinese characteristics

>>13565075

Fuck everyone else in this thread except you, please be in London

[Anonymous No.13565432]

>>13565425
>A post-ideological world seems preferable
Yes, and world peace and a cancer cure. I agree, anon

[Anonymous No.13565435]

Ancap :)

Not really sure though, need to review my views. I've started to care less and less about politics.

[Anonymous No.13565440]

>>13565059
Theocratic Monarchist

[Anonymous No.13565450]

>>13565425
>left has too much power
>left
>too much power

>ideology is for the weak minded anyway

[Anonymous No.13565451]

I'm beyond

[Anonymous No.13565457]

>>13565451
based!

[Anonymous No.13565463]

A much better analysis.
>1.Axiom/Morals (the foundations of your choices): eg safety, pleasure, elitism, domination etc
Egalitarian hedonism and conquest of the universe and knowledge

>2.End goal (type of society you want to live in): this is the place you have to give a more detailed description, not just communism or ancapism, how do you envision society as whole.
I want all humans to help each other and maximize happiness and pleasure (Matrix-like VR games) but I want us to conquer the universe at the same time.
A multi-star/galaxy civilization in which govt is pretty decentralized but there is no infighting between humans, everyone enjoys whatever they want but we also conquer the universe as the time goes by and learn everything about everything

>3.Manifestation of axioms your current state: e.g. conservatism, feminism etc
Liberal Centrist Social Democratic Capitalism (pretty much a scandinavian country but without the refugees), we can help the refugees without bringing in the countries, because the ultimate goal is reaching faster the technological critical point in which everyone can enjoy abundance, if we cripple the 1st world countries we won't advance, resulting in net-loss for everyone in the end.

>4.Tactics: eg. voting, entertainment, revolution
Focus on technology, promote enlightenment values, de-politicize as much as possible everything, we need to focus on the fucking tech, if we do 99% of our problems will be solved,
engaging in cringy autistic political ventures is just pulling us all back

inb4 I'm a brainlet centrist
No, you're brainlet, I pretty much explored every single obscure political ideology, it's all larping all the way down
Problem is that you transfer your artistic intuition to politics, and it's not the same e.g pop genre = bad, blackened doom trance jazz subgenre = good
Politics isn't about being edgy or unique.

Read Richard Rorty

[Anonymous No.13565466]

>>13565359
Yes I agree. It’s just my experience that many so called “conservatives” today, especially in party politics, are just free market rightwing liberalists who like the aesthetics of authenticity.

[Anonymous No.13565469]

>>13565432
We existed pre-ideology so it's not impossible.
The fact that people can shift ideologies like fashionable clothing is testament to its lack of innate lack of substance.

It's worth while to envision what that post-ideology world could be like. We can look into the past to see what pre-ideology society was like, how people were motivated, and how power was regulated.
Why are there martyrs for secular things? What about the martyrs for nothing?

[Anonymous No.13565474]

>>13565450
How many ideologies have you chewed through in life anon? How long will you retain your current one?

[Anonymous No.13565476]

>>13565379
We Must Study and Learn From the revolutionary example of Reverend Jones! We Must and We Shall Honor the heroism of those who chose death over surrender to the enemy! May the memory of the People's Temple live forever. Kool-Aid! Guyana!

[Anonymous No.13565484]

>>13565060
this

[Anonymous No.13565485]

>>13565484
why?

[Anonymous No.13565487]

Sam Harryist
I want to maximize well being

[Anonymous No.13565492]

>>13565485
this

[Anonymous No.13565496]

>>13565487
Define the units of morality within an objective utilitarian framework.

[Anonymous No.13565501]

>>13565496
three fiddy

[Anonymous No.13565539]

>>13565463
so utilitarianism?

[Anonymous No.13565546]

>>13565059
Openly Homosexual Male Feminist

[Anonymous No.13565554]

>>13565539
cringe, read more

[Anonymous No.13565557]

>>13565463
analytic cringe

[Anonymous No.13565561]

National-socialist with more emphasis on the socialist part. Also monarchist leanings.

[Anonymous No.13565564]

>>13565561
read charles maurras

[Anonymous No.13565566]

>>13565561
>monarchist socialist
you'll need to explain this one to me

[Anonymous No.13565569]

>>13565557
>rorty is analytic
major yikes

[Anonymous No.13565573]

>>13565400
>why would a centrist piss you off
centrists stand for absolutely nothing

[Anonymous No.13565574]

>>13565059
Nothing. Politics don't exist.

[Anonymous No.13565575]

I guess Distributist/Communitarian. I jokingly call myself a Burkean Socialist when people ask

[Anonymous No.13565576]

>>13565561
So a pseud?

[Anonymous No.13565577]

>>13565575
unironically based

[Anonymous No.13565579]

>>13565059
feudalist

[Anonymous No.13565582]

>>13565384
>>13565400
>>13565413
It is because centrism usually comes from a lack of proper understanding of one's place in history, in one's political system, and in their depth of knowledge. Centrism becomes particularly annoying when one pairs it with simple surface level stuff like "both sides are the same" or "I'm in the middle" or "I think critically of my ideas and positions" or even when one is too scared to identify with what they agree with. It takes a special kind of narcissist pseud to be a centrist.

[Anonymous No.13565585]

>>13565463

politics is by necessity ritualistic and eschatological, it's about sex and death, ghosts calling back from centuries and millennia of rationally-administered inhumanity. We must remember that the great achievements of culture and science rest on a base of enlightened brutality, and the systematic desacration of the world Politics is transgressive, demolishes boundaries as it reshapes by the human mind and human work, the world that had turned mind and work against man. I know the experts are about to work it out, that the algorithm will someday reach perfection, that it will be fucking great and everything will be free and we may not even have to die, just like Huxley's UNESCO and Premier Khruschev and Sillicon Valley and Davos have told us for decades, in the meantime, I can't help but feel animal outrage towards the system and its apologists is completely justified.

[Anonymous No.13565598]

>>13565413
the both sides are the same thing refers to the basic commonalities among humans on one hand, and on the other the clear similarities between extremists on the right and left, extremists very often are of a certain type, and even flipflop between the two extremes.

[Anonymous No.13565604]

>>13565463
I find this philosophical stance as useless or meaningless.

[Anonymous No.13565607]

>>13565585
Agreed. Rorty dismissed Plato as someone trying to 'escape' this world, as though it is possible to progress without at once excercising a hope to escape, without having the courage to follow a vision of not only what could but but what should be.

The truth is we only ever progress by believing in truth. We only ever change the way things are because we have a sense of the way they should be regardless of time and place. Rorty's insistence that we don't ever reach an ultimate truth is the worst impediment to progress.

[Anonymous No.13565608]

libertarian socialist

[Anonymous No.13565611]

>>13565566
It’s basically that the people need help, but that help should come from a designated ruling class who has an interest in keeping the country afloat through ownership

[Anonymous No.13565613]

>>13565608
>faggot

[Anonymous No.13565614]

>>13565090
t. Shaper-Mechanist

[Anonymous No.13565615]

>>13565613
>argument ad hominem

[Anonymous No.13565617]

Homicidal

(jk fbi)

[Anonymous No.13565623]

>>13565611
okay, but isn't that fundamentally incompatible with socialism? if the ruling class own the means it's not socialism, if the workers own the means the ruling class are redundant

[Anonymous No.13565625]

>>13565582
This whole post is ridiculous. I'm glad no one responded saying they agreed with it :3

[Anonymous No.13565628]

>>13565059
I don't know. I used to believe the government was there to help the people. But then remember that people act like children, so they ended up making groups just like in school. By constantly comparing themselves with others, and declaring they are better, nothing is changed.

I thought the purpose of the government was to work together and guide the people towards constant progress, and not by the means of working 9-5 shifts or longer ones, but by securing their basic needs while they can focus on creative stuff, because when you think about it we are wasting food.

Sad thing is, even if you did secure the basic needs of people, majority of them no longer have the motivation to be creative. They went from enlightened beings to average piece of meat. And because of this, those who read and understand the situation think they are better than the rest, and therefore should rule over the masses. And the cycle begins once again.

[Anonymous No.13565641]

>>13565628
That is an intelligent post, anon :3

[Anonymous No.13565644]

>>13565585
I'm not gonna disagree how much rationalization goes on, I'm an democratic capitalist etc pragmatically because that's the closest and most realistic way to accelerate technics.

[Anonymous No.13565645]

[Anonymous No.13565646]

>>13565604
What philosophical stance?
There isn't any philosophical stance, just pure pragmatism.

Philosophy is LARPing

[Anonymous No.13565651]

>Opportunist
>absurdist

In no particular order

[Anonymous No.13565660]

>>13565641
>>13565625
Few people consistently exude their low iq like you do

[Anonymous No.13565662]

>>13565582
Centrists btfo

[Anonymous No.13565666]

>>13565660
Isn't the evolution of the :3 emoticon just this

:O <====3
:O <===3
:(==3
:3

[Anonymous No.13565667]

i don care
i just masturbate and read hegel

[Anonymous No.13565669]

>>13565059
Radical Humanist

[Anonymous No.13565671]

still can't decide if I'm economically a social democrat or a democratic socialist
on the social front, far left enough to call enbies "they" but not far enough to call them "xer"
in short, I voted for Trump

[Anonymous No.13565686]

>>13565582
>straw man
In order to criticize the centrist, it’s not enough to say he’s shallow, you have to make an argument that ideology doesn’t come with blind spots so large they corrupt truth perception, devolving into tribal war.

[Anonymous No.13565736]

>>13565059
revolutionary communist

[Anonymous No.13565747]

>>13565059
Capitalist

[Anonymous No.13565764]

Communist

[Anonymous No.13565781]

>>13565059
Hoppean monarchist libertarían fascist.
1) the principle of the libertarian/minarchist state is correct. An intrusive State and a politicized Caste of "experts" ruin democracy, and there's are lifestyles which are incompatible with civilization which must be excised.
2) We still need a State: i propose a Divine right monarch who will embody the state in himself. His main job will be to check the power of the big companies. Pretty easy to do when they are seen as a democratizing force which feeds on the power of the Aristocracy.
3) Aristocracy as a thousands years long eugenics project: WW1 did kill the best of the best of europe. We can start again.
4) Above all, the culture (as proposed by the king) must be fascist: unity, cohesion, brotherhood. A new Futurist architecture, a new explosion of classic artwork. Get your shit together.

[Anonymous No.13565782]

>>13565686
Anon was arguing against the label and against centrists. Not whatever their ideology is

[Anonymous No.13565785]

We need to formalise the caste system apparent in (British) society. Lowest caste is to be treated dejure subhuman with equal gravity, while upper caste be treated as "normal". It is the middle caste who should be accorded equal dignity as human beings under the law."

[Anonymous No.13565853]

>>13565785
Britain is the island of degeneracy. Their Caste system is based on wealth only instead that on strenght of spirit. Complete brainlet tier.
Have a revolution and Try again.

[Anonymous No.13565893]

>>13565059
I am a communist, but I'm not a regular communist, i'm the sort of red who thinks the CIA and the RAND corporation, Google and Facebook were the the real communists all along. I have decided to Stand by and fight the struggle many good men and women fought before me, comprising certainly but not limited to the towering figures of Marx, Trotsky, Winston Churchill, Buckminster Fuller, George Orwell, Martin Luther King and JFK, Norbert Wiener, Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul the Second, Mark Zuckerberg, ARPANET, Richard Dawkins, the chicago school of economics, Martin Luther, James Joyce, John von Neumann, Occupy Wall Street, George W Bush, Stewart Brand, Brian Eno, the Aquarian Conspiracy, Julian Huxley, Washington, Jefferson et. al. American founding fathers, Walter Lippmann, Steve Jobs, Alexandre Kojeve, Fukuyama, Richard Nixon, Kissinger and Theodor Herzl

[Anonymous No.13565906]

>>13565148
anarchism doesn't necessitate communism you can be a anarchist capitalist.

[Anonymous No.13565912]

I don't give a shit about the reat of humanity, so i don't care about politics.
I will declare to agree with any position that is temporarily advantageous for me.

[Anonymous No.13565918]

>>13565469
We existed that point on Traditional absolutes and much more rigid heuristics than ideology