What's the most interesting conflict in literature?

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Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:45:41 2019 No.13563856 [Reply] [Original]

What's the most interesting conflict in literature?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:47:00 2019 No.13563865 >>13563856 Man vs Reality and Author.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:57:31 2019 No.13563936 What is the point of any of those? What do people gain from reading those books?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:01:43 2019 No.13563958 >>13563856 Man vs Self. Every book has to have it to some extent, or else it's not really a good narrative

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:03:50 2019 No.13563974 Where is "man vs woman"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:04:52 2019 No.13563983 >>13563974 t.2019

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:06:02 2019 No.13563989 >>13563974 Part of Man vs Society.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:08:56 2019 No.13564003 >>13563856 The one where they fight with their willies. WILLY WARS WILLY WARS. Sorry. The best is subjective.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:11:14 2019 No.13564011 File: 269 KB, 1200x1335, C507927E-FFA8-41E0-BA5E-5BC8D42DAF78.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Is men vs nature the brainlet answer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:12:24 2019 No.13564017 Gamers vs Society

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Wed Jul 31 21:13:48 2019 No.13564029 >>13563856 The well written conflict

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:14:50 2019 No.13564032 >>13564011 Tbh it's the most profound if taken to it's final conclusion. That nature = monism That man is part of the nature, so is god and so is the author.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:17:36 2019 No.13564049 >>13563856 They're all interesting. Execution is what matters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:24:00 2019 No.13564091 >didn't include the most interesting one Man vs Reader

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:25:39 2019 No.13564101 >>13564091 you mean Finnegans Wake?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:26:22 2019 No.13564105 >>13564101 ;o

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:38:22 2019 No.13564163 >>13563856 Man vs Self, but the plot of the book is about Man vs (Society, Man, or Reality).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:46:37 2019 No.13564194 Is man vs reality about a leftist being blackpilled by real statistics and modern genetic studies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:50:19 2019 No.13564209 Man vs Future Man vs Past Man vs Present Man vs Emotions Man vs Life Man vs Duty Man vs Meaning Man vs Ubermensch Man vs Untermensch Man vs Fiction Man allied to [x] Man vs "Man vs [x]" [x] vs Man Man not versus Not Man vs Not Man

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:50:39 2019 No.13564210 >>13563856 kino: Man vs. Man Man vs. Self Man vs. God ok/it depends tier: Man vs. No God Man vs. Reality Man vs. Society shit tier: Man vs. Nature Man vs. Technology uber shit reddit tier: Man vs. Author

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:51:21 2019 No.13564215 >>13564194 no that's man vs /pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:53:41 2019 No.13564218 >>13564210 this The "vs author" is so self-referential redditry it fucking hurts. It's equivalent of cosplaying and LARPing as Joker irl

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:55:08 2019 No.13564226 >>13563856 Man vs Woman Obviously.

>>	Anónimo García Wed Jul 31 21:55:45 2019 No.13564230 File: 1.41 MB, 292x310, 1557153350057.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now is woman vs all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:56:49 2019 No.13564237 vs Technology is as boomer as it gets vs Reality (can) pretty much include(s) everything else vs Author is pure gimmickry that redditors find fascinating

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 21:57:51 2019 No.13564241 >>13564226 >>13563974 Based post:>>13564230

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:02:55 2019 No.13564255 >>13563856 >everything needs to be categorized >uh sorry sir, it looks like your ideas don't fit into a category, so they'll be destroyed fuck I hate extremists

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:03:09 2019 No.13564257 >>13564101 That's Author vs. Reader

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:03:41 2019 No.13564259 Man vs Nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:04:10 2019 No.13564263 >>13564255 man vs categories

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:04:13 2019 No.13564265
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>>13563856
They forgot one.

because they are pathetic dimwits with no imagination. They were told this is the list of things books can be about, and they just repeated what they were told in an endless drone cycle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:05:28 2019 No.13564274 >>13564263 kek/lel/lmao/lol/epic win/xD/haha chronological

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:05:51 2019 No.13564275 Man versus nothing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:06:29 2019 No.13564282 Best thread in /lit/ rn

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:09:08 2019 No.13564291
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>>13564263
More spot on than you know. I often have people ask me if I am pro-life or pro-choice and I just tell them I am neither.

They never accept it. Their minds won't allow for the possibility that I don't have to join in their petty arguments.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:10:18 2019 No.13564297 File: 4 KB, 202x134, 1539406289643s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] man vs jannies

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:12:31 2019 No.13564306 >>13564275 >>13564209

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:13:32 2019 No.13564312 >>13564291 can you explain your position?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:15:24 2019 No.13564323 File: 205 KB, 961x1400, 65.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564312 Of course. I'm not pro-life, or pro-choice.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:18:48 2019 No.13564338

>>13564323
yeah that's nice sentence for an edgy lit meme.
The reason people get mad at you is because in real life you are forced in binaries and decisions, if times comes you will have a choice between abortion or not abortion, sure you can have amazing analysis and interpretations of those but not in the level of decision.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:22:55 2019 No.13564356
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>>13564338
>if times comes you will have a choice between abortion or not abortion

And I'll choose neither. You don't even think a third option exists, that's how stupid and brainwashed you are, and that's what they want.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:24:34 2019 No.13564361 >>13563974 (hu)man vs (hu)man

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:25:04 2019 No.13564367

>>13564291
It sounds like you want to avoid having an argument on an heated social issue but instead of just saying out loud that you don't want to have an argument, you pretend that your opinion is so unique and impossible to describe that you can't talk about it. Just so you know, you don't have to make excuses. You can actually tell people that you don't want to have an argument, and then you can just leave if they insist. It's healthy behavior. You could just say "I don't identify with either of these groups, you could say I'm somewhere in-between, I go by a case-by-case basis and I don't want to have an argument on the subject". Instead of selling yourself as impossible to understand you're just a person who wants no trouble.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:25:47 2019 No.13564371 >>13563856 what are some good man vs. reality books?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:26:22 2019 No.13564376 >>13564356 who is "they"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:27:42 2019 No.13564381 The Sovereign Mind of Rational Man vs communism.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:27:47 2019 No.13564382

>>13564356
>I'll choose neither
Your reasons are meaningless because you're still forced between two choices.

Inaction = not abortion
Even if you're not pro-abortion, your actions are what counts in this situation and not your intents or your higher values and edgy philosophy.
You're too lost in the clouds and lost touch with real world and how visceral and simplistic it actually is sometimes.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:28:21 2019 No.13564384

>>13564367
>you pretend that your opinion is so unique and impossible to describe that you can't talk about it

It's not hard to describe at all. I elect to not choose either. I have found it's simply hard for people to understand this stance, but it's not hard for me to explain it.

>I don't identify with either of these groups

This is correct.

>I go by a case-by-case basis

This is incorrect, I always choose neither.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:28:49 2019 No.13564387 >>13564371 Das Capital

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:29:09 2019 No.13564389 >>13564371 Philip K Dick's

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:29:26 2019 No.13564391 >>13563856 Man vs Man. A conflict between two well written characters should be ideal because a man can represent nature, an idea and the self

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:31:02 2019 No.13564397 >>13564395 meantfor >>13564387

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:32:25 2019 No.13564407 >>13564387 kek

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:32:34 2019 No.13564408
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>>13564382
No one can force me to choose between the two options. Go ahead and try. You simply cannot understand this because you've been brainwashed into binary thinking.

Inaction could also equal abortion, if I do not act to stop women from having them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:32:43 2019 No.13564409 File: 33 KB, 500x366, Dokuro-Chan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 >>13564029 Man vs. Tran

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:33:51 2019 No.13564414 Nature vs Man In which the nature represents the man and man represents nature

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:37:02 2019 No.13564425 >>13564414 works like this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:37:29 2019 No.13564427 File: 45 KB, 486x409, 731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564387

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:38:42 2019 No.13564431 File: 314 KB, 849x1200, skfgm33a5kz11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Isn't man vs man and man vs self basically the same thing?

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:41:09 2019 No.13564438

>>13564408
>brainwashed
Not him but I think you're misunderstanding him.
You either get an abortion or you don't.
You C A N have other more nuanced and sophisticated positions but they don't matter in real life when it comes down to the decision.
I think he's talking about from the vantage point of the decision and a philosophical one.
Imagine your wife/sister/whatever wants abortion and the laws are against it, there are activists and you say "lmao I don't adhere to these simplistic binaries", no one cares bout your redpilled opinions irl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:42:11 2019 No.13564444 >>13564409 >vs trannies I'd rather team up : ))

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:43:19 2019 No.13564446

>>13564384
>I elect to not choose.
Electing means choosing. You're repeating the same word twice. Electing to not elect, choosing to not choose, that makes as much sense as walking to not walk or breathing to not breath. It's not a valid sentence, it's garbled speech. You don't have a unique unexplainable opinion, you just don't identify with two groups of people and you don't want an argument. Just say that, it's not hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:43:58 2019 No.13564448 >>13564431 no, man vs man is essentially how you deal with other people, man vs self is about internal struggle, overcoming yourself etc

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:45:04 2019 No.13564451 >>13564438 >>13564408 vantage point of decision and NOT a philosophical one* fixed

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:47:43 2019 No.13564462
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>>13564438
How do you propose to make me choose between them? You could point a gun at me and order me to pick one. But I wouldn't. Then you could shoot me, or not, but either way, I haven't chose.

Because I choose neither.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:47:51 2019 No.13564463 >>13564431 man vs self is about man fighting the Beast inside him, the Beast isn't human

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:49:16 2019 No.13564468 File: 95 KB, 357x429, tumblr_inline_p70378lhsX1rjsbp5_400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564448 But others is merely a reflection of your internal struggle is it not? Differences between men are born from our individual ideologies

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:50:14 2019 No.13564470

>>13564446
lol even if i don't agree with what the guy is saying you're stupid for this route, anon. That it takes you five sentences to explain something that is wrong is pretty funny. You're getting caught up on his WORD CHOICE? You don't think he can choose not to choose? Say he has three choices--he might have more--but with three, he can either choose to go pro-life, choose to go pro-choice, or choose not to choose. That's not garbled speech. You likely had a little lightbulb go off at "OH ELECT MEANS CHOOSE" and decided to go with that to win this argument--it's no wonder that anon doesn't like arguments. He can probably foresee like anyone else that no matter what someone says to you right now, including me, you're going to shake your head.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:57:02 2019 No.13564500 >>13564462 I see what you mean now, and it's even worse for you buddy. You're arguing from indifference. Indifference never neutral in politics/society/laws. If you don't understand this then you're a massive brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:58:20 2019 No.13564505 >>13564468 >>13564468 In that sense everything is an internal struggle and nulls your point.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:01:40 2019 No.13564515

>>13564470
>lol even if i don't agree with what the guy is sayin
I'm that other guy
What is it exactly that you don't agree with me?
The only thing I said is that irl you can only be for or against abortion, pragmatically speaking.

Indifference is nice thing to have but in a society your indifference is a real choice to someone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:02:43 2019 No.13564519 >>13564468 >others are reflections.. no that's your interpretation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:04:06 2019 No.13564526 >>13564515 >you can only be for or against abortion No, there is two more options, at least. Maybe even more. >Abortion >Not Abortion >Neither >Both

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:05:49 2019 No.13564536

>>13564462
Ok when it's up to a vote whether your gender, skin color, life choices whatever is being decided to be punishable by death, I'll just say "I don't really care lmao", I want you to be polite to me and say "I respect your opinion :)" as you get carried away by the police to the firing squad.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:06:41 2019 No.13564540
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>>13564505
>>13564519
A man can't relate to nature, society or God like he can relate to another man. My point isn't that outside forces are a creation of an internal struggle, it's that it is that a conflict between men is created from their differences in beliefs or circumstances. Men come into conflict when they both desire the same thing, be it life, happiness, honor or death of the other. What we desire, why we desire, and how we plan to obtain it is an internal struggle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:07:08 2019 No.13564542 >>13564526 Only they are not real options in the real world. >are you for or against genocide? neither, if they can survive they survive hahah xDD both xDD

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:08:44 2019 No.13564551
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>>13564500
I'm not arguing with you. I am stating that I abstain from the choice. Much like a juror on a jury. The choices are:

>Guilty
>Not Guilty
>Abstention

One of the most important realizations of all is that you do not have to choose. Too few are aware.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:09:10 2019 No.13564554

>>13564470
>You don't think he can choose not to choose
But it's true. You can't. If you choose not to chose, you chose something. It's a simple word with a simple definition. If you chose to do nothing, you chose inaction, which is fine, but it isn't a super secret hidden option for philosophical big brains. I'm not saying that anyone has to choose between identifying as pro-life or pro-choice, I'm simply relaying the simple truth that choosing inaction is not "choosing nothing" and it doesn't mean you picked a super special third option that nobody else saw. You picked a perfectly normal and common option, then described it poorly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:12:08 2019 No.13564563 >>13564551 A juror that declares abstention didn't chose not to chose anything. They clearly chose something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:12:18 2019 No.13564565 >>13564540 You just described man vs man and not man vs self. You're saying you cannot differentiate and cannot think how are they different?

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:15:48 2019 No.13564577
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>>13564563
>>13564542
>>13564536
All according to the prophecy.

The unenlightened will never understand true freedom. Their government will tell them they "have" to join the army and they will. Because the choice that leads to freedom is invisible to them. They can't see anything outside their binary thinking.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:20:46 2019 No.13564594 File: 231 KB, 485x645, Screenshot (143).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564565 Let me put it simply, man vs man because man vs self.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:25:24 2019 No.13564616

>>13564551
>>13564526
>>13564515
>>13564462

I fully understand what you're saying but you don't understand what I'm saying.

An analogy would be like this:
You can have infinite numbers between 1 and 2.
1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.31, 1.32, 1.33 etc

When your doing your groceries and you have money only to buy up to 2 bottles of milk, you either buy 1 bottle of milk or 2 bottles of milk.

>but I can open the bottle and take a sip, which is 1/300 of a bottle
YES YES YES YOU SAID THAT A MILLION TIMES
No one is arguing that you can, I'm arguing that in your shopping experience that is a meaningless choice/distinction.

And you keep saying "BUT I COULD"
Good for you.
The shop keepers would be happy and you wouldn't be happy if you were a shoppkeer and everyone started vandalizing your products.
It's not how it works.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:26:26 2019 No.13564623 >>13564616 the shoppkeepers wouldn't be happy*

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:29:23 2019 No.13564637

>>13564515
i agree with you. I said "even if i don't agree with that guy" to say that even if i don't agree with you, he still is incorrect.

>>13564554
by focusing on this word choice you are veering the argument away from his original position. It is not about words or semantics. He does not have an OPINION, if you want to use that word, about pro-choice or pro-life. He does not have a STAKE in pro-choice or pro-life. He does not WANT to talk about pro-choice or pro-life. He IS neither. He makes a so-called blunder in saying "I elect not to choose" and you find a possible weakness by pointing out impossibilities of words. I would like to end this post by saying stop being so analytical, but can one STOP being analytical, or is it natural? Is IT natural? Fuck I'm afraid to even type another sentence or else you're going to further lose the thread of this argument. This is likely why anon does not like arguments. It's at least why i don't.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:30:29 2019 No.13564641
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>>13564616
Too often, analogies are wielded poorly by the weak who can't handle them. They are a tool to aid understanding, not something to argue with any more than one argues with a shovel.

Argue with my ideas, not with your analogies. I'm not quibbling about milk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:34:29 2019 No.13564649 File: 585 KB, 572x800, leeeef.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564637 >are you pro-life or pro-choice? >I'm neither >that's incorrect lmaoing @ brainwashed binary boobs right now. how can you even be so fucking blind

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:37:45 2019 No.13564656

>>13564577
Have you considered the possibility that nobody here is trying to trick you into a false dilemma fallacy? When people try to make you understand that choosing to not chose isn't a sentence that makes sense in the english language, they aren't necessarily part of a conspiracy to trick your mind into evil choices. Nobody cares about changing your opinion. You can refuse to join the army and I respect that, you can refuse to identity as either pro-life or pro-choice, I respect that. None of this has anything to do with the fact that you are describing your opinions poorly. Nobody is trying to trick you, you're not misunderstood, you just communicate badly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:40:09 2019 No.13564668 >>13563856 Like what if I wrote a book from the Terminator's point of view. Is that technology versus man? Is it different than man vs. technology?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:40:45 2019 No.13564671 >>13564577 >>13564641 >>13564649 >everyone who disagrees with me is literally brainwashed and I’m going to spaz out for several posts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:41:19 2019 No.13564674 File: 239 KB, 527x613, 1563140311975.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564637 >Fuck I'm afraid to even type another sentence or else you're going to further lose the thread of this argument. What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:41:25 2019 No.13564676 >>13564594 Man vs man differs from man vs self in that the conflict lies in the differences between two selves, whereas man vs self refers to overcoming one's own inherent characteristics

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:42:27 2019 No.13564680

>>13564656
>you can refuse to identity as either pro-life or pro-choice

and you're lecturing me about poor english? This goes much deeper than I thought. Your political views are not your "identity". The brainwashing at this point might be irreversible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:43:27 2019 No.13564682 File: 97 KB, 640x626, 1563415564354.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I actually have no opinion, which makes me superior to you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:44:10 2019 No.13564685 >>13564649 i hope you replied to the wrong person.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:46:45 2019 No.13564696 File: 27 KB, 735x541, high level conversation.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564680

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:49:47 2019 No.13564710 >>13563856 My favorite is Man vs Chaos Warrior, in which Man is forced to face a hulking monstrosity of a foe corrupted by the touch of T'Zeentch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:52:03 2019 No.13564711 >>13564029 Man vs Penis

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:53:38 2019 No.13564717
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>>13564671
There is no disagreeing with me unless you are brainwashed.

All I said was that I don't choose between pro-life or pro-choice. They say to me: Are you pro-life or pro-choice? and I say: "neither". Just like I would say if someone asked me if my favourite restaurant was tim hortons or taco bell. I don't have to choose when presented with binary options.

The brainwashed WILL NOT accept this. They can't, cause they're brainwashed. It's all red versus blue with them. But I get to have threesomes while they squabble.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:53:52 2019 No.13564718 >>13564029 Man vs Ma'am

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:55:28 2019 No.13564725

>>13563856
Hmm it's gotta be Man vs. Chaos Warrior. Yeah. But especially a Nurgle Chaos Warrior. There really isn't a more essential conflict than squaring up against some putrid abomination that was once a person, charging at you with an axe in one hand while from his other shoulder pustules are leaking corrosive fluid. It covers the entire range of the human experience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:02:07 2019 No.13564753 File: 11 KB, 218x232, nignog.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Man vs. Nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:04:11 2019 No.13564763 File: 39 KB, 600x800, RWJ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Man vs (You)

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:06:05 2019 No.13564778 File: 34 KB, 542x616, 1518385782011.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Norf vs. Souf

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:08:04 2019 No.13564788 woman vs man in erotica

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:08:25 2019 No.13564789 Silverback gorilla VS grizzly bear

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:10:15 2019 No.13564798 >>13564717 Tell us more about "the brainwashed".

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:10:24 2019 No.13564799 EVANGELION OF ANIME -tier: Man vs Self kino: Man vs God Man vs Nature Honourable mention: Man vs Man Unfortunate -tier: rest

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:10:43 2019 No.13564800 >>13564029 Tranny vs dilating dildo

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:10:57 2019 No.13564803 >>13563974 man vs nature >>13563856 Where is the genre lacking man? What kind of egoism is this?

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:11:56 2019 No.13564810

>>13564641
1.You're so braindead you cannot understand even the analogies and you blame it on poor handling
2.You're so braindead that I explicitly and simply showed you why wrong, you still didn't understood THEN I used analogies.

Your ideas are shite.
You're a braindead retarded who think having an abstract choices is the same as arguing with realistic choices irl and how it affects them.

Wanna know an easy way to test if you undestand something?
I can restate your opinion, you cannot restate mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:13:19 2019 No.13564814 >>13564594 >let me put it simply I understand you, you don't understand me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:14:19 2019 No.13564818 File: 66 KB, 312x560, leading cause of brain damage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Man vs. Cock

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:15:47 2019 No.13564825 Itachi vs Plebs that don't think Itachi is the greatest character ever

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:18:29 2019 No.13564842
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>>13564676
When men fight it is a battle of who comprises first, whose will is will is weaker, who loses their internally struggle to obtain there desire. Also I'm not saying man vs self had to be man vs man, that simply wouldn't make sense,rather that man vs man is or is a result of man vs self. It is out internal conflicts that drive us and therefore is what drives to collide with one another.
>>13564814
naked breast nude woman google images

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:20:40 2019 No.13564848 File: 75 KB, 609x1024, 1554866341851.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564753 Animal abuse is illegal, anon.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:21:04 2019 No.13564851

>>13564798
when you ask them what they are, they respond by telling you their occupation. They do not have a sense of self outside what they do for money.

any observations that disturb their indoctrination are met with contemptuous responses. Just try to mention to a westerner that perhaps, toilet paper is not the most sanitary option, even though that's what "they've always done".

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:22:37 2019 No.13564857 File: 405 KB, 955x531, 5486478659328975468794235789.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564810 How do you restate my opinion on abortion when I don't have one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:22:52 2019 No.13564860 >>13563856 Man vs God. Assuming it is, what I believe it is.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:23:39 2019 No.13564865
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>>13564848
You're right. I guess man vs nigger is just man vs nature. It could also be man vs no God but that's just my interpretation because what God would create niggers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:26:07 2019 No.13564875 >>13564851 tell us more about the toilet paper conspiracy

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:26:20 2019 No.13564877

>>13564674
>>13564649
>>13564641
>>13564594
>>13564551
>>13564540
>>13564468
>>13564462
>>13564717

You got btfo'd by at least a dozen of people itt.
Admit defeat or become the stereotype of the dumbfuck who can never accept defeat.

Summary:
pro abortion vs anti abortion

You say you're neither.
Everyone is telling you "Ok, you don't care, you're indifferent, or whatever you position is, we understand that".
And then we follow by: "while you can have your choice just a reminder that by not taking a specific position, you're still essentially taken a position against to those who affect this and there are real consequences to them and in relation to you, that's how a society works, just a heads up, I understand you but I want to keep that in mind"

You: "No I said I choose neither"

Everyone: "Yeah, we understand that, we explicitly stated that, it's just you cannot understand what is being said to you, you can be have any choice you want but in the real world, your choice is gonna help or allow a pro-abortion or an anti-abortion law, and the whole society is impacted, we're not saying we're gonna force you to do anything, we're just saying your choice is of consequence and you should be mindful of other people"

You: "lmao you're brainwashed between two choices haha"

Everyone: "But that's how i-"

You: "YOU WILL NOT FORCE ME TO CHOOSE, I AM A FREE SPIRIT"

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:27:32 2019 No.13564884 >>13564877 are u ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:30:39 2019 No.13564893 >>13564884 >are you ok Exactly, you never engage with the arguments. How are you even alive, dumbfucks alike you walk the earth, that's the problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:31:44 2019 No.13564897 >>13564884 embarassing

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:33:37 2019 No.13564907 >>13564877 >the whole society is impacted, we're not saying we're gonna force you to do anything, we're just saying your choice is of consequence this is textbook commie talk

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:33:39 2019 No.13564908
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>>13564877
Why the fuck are you replying to me retard? I'm just discussing how the conflicts between others could potentially be created, driven and resolved by the conflicts within the self. Take your schizo pills you embarrassing faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:35:32 2019 No.13564914 >>13564857 Your position is that you have no opinion but that non-opinion is a real opposition to whoever gets fucked by your choice. How are you not getting this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:37:16 2019 No.13564921 >>13564908 You're the same guy aren't you. You write and post the same images. You're the "I HAVE NO CHOICE" guy and the "MAN VS MAN = MAN VS SELF" guy. You have been btfo'd hard and you keep denying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:38:56 2019 No.13564935 >>13564908 >pretending to be someone else because you cannot admit defeat embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:39:32 2019 No.13564937 >>13564877 based as fuck

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:40:26 2019 No.13564943
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>>13564857
As I understand it, assuming you're the original "I don't have an opinion on this" person in this thread, you're just saying you don't have an opinion on abortion. People are telling you that there are still consequences to inaction regardless of whether you are actually involved in an abortion or not, so you repeat that you don't have an opinion. Ad infinitum. Is this correct?

>>13563856
A combination is the most interesting. I think a solipsist Man vs God and Man vs Self story would be highly entertaining, assuming it was written well.

Free Spirit Thu Aug 1 00:41:15 2019 No.13564948
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To those who still have the ability to wake up, remember that you are never forced to choose. You are always free. The nefarious brainwashed types will do anything you can to pick up arms one way or another. They'll write essays declaring that not choosing, in fact, means, you actually HAVE chosen. They cannot process anyone outside their binary mindset. But if you ignore them, they have no power.

I know it seems like you have to choose life or death, global warming or whatever the opposite of that is, democrat or republican, asuka or rei, cake or tea or coffee or pie or right or wrong and chess or checkers.

But there's always a Misato. Avoid the browbeatings by boors into being brainwashed like the rest.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:42:23 2019 No.13564956
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>>13564908
>>13564935
I've literally been posting Minami exclusively. You're actually a fucking retard to think that all anime posters are the same. Take your fucking anti-dumb ass pills moron. Are you the guy i was arguing with? You didn't seem that retarded at first.

>>	Free Spirit Thu Aug 1 00:42:24 2019 No.13564955 >>13564948 nefarious brainwashed......anything they* can

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:43:25 2019 No.13564963 >>13564956 meant for>>13564921

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:43:37 2019 No.13564965 >>13564943 combine Man vs God and Man vs Reality and you got Richard Dawkin's God Delusion

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:44:32 2019 No.13564969 File: 293 KB, 820x991, 128-1281930_9105314-neet-pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Wagie vs Cagie

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:44:49 2019 No.13564973 >>13564956 You further embarrass yourself. This is a pathetic display.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:45:30 2019 No.13564977

>>13564851
what a cynical, impersonal way of viewing people you have. how often do you have lengthy conversations with people that you dont really know? who are these people that solely identify by their occupation? who the hell asks: what are you?
you sound like youre building up some sort of meme strawman to view those that criticize your lack of position.
i empathize with your frustration with categories and binaries, but some of what youve said is embarrassing.

>>	Free Spirit Thu Aug 1 00:45:37 2019 No.13564979 File: 1.09 MB, 1662x2000, Basuka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564956 They're binary thinkers anon. They won't accept it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:46:00 2019 No.13564982 >>13564948 Holy shit this is the most centrist meme I've ever seen, the cartoonish one but unironically.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:46:14 2019 No.13564984 File: 74 KB, 278x340, 1564128268593.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13564973 Sure whatever loser. See you at the psychiatric ward

Free Spirit Thu Aug 1 00:50:25 2019 No.13564994
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>>13564982
>centrist

how does it feel to know I knew exactly how this would go right from the beginning. I'll tell you one good think about the brainwashed, they never do surprise you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:51:04 2019 No.13565000 >>13564948 >Global warming is destroying the planet, should we vote to reduce emissions or let it go unchecked until everything is fucked >YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME CHOOSE, I AM NO ONE'S SLAVE

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:51:05 2019 No.13565001 why is there so much fucking anime in this thread I mean I'm no autistic anti-weeb, I watch quite a bit of anime, but what the hell

Free Spirit Thu Aug 1 00:53:50 2019 No.13565009

>>13565000
>he doesn't know about option three

What if I told you that it was possible to pollute the planet and not trigger humanity's extinction?

You'd likely reject the concept outright, because you're a binary buffoon. But perhaps you aren't. But just because everyone screeches that you must choose between pollution and humanity does not make it true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:54:16 2019 No.13565012 >>13564982 That's not centrism that's just not giving a shit about politics and ignoring them. You can say that this enforces the status quo, but guess what I dont have to care about that either, suck a dick.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:54:29 2019 No.13565014
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>>13564965
Man vs God and Man vs Reality is actually a pretty interesting concept. Lots of questions to ask, contemplate, and write on. I think the appeal though really lies in the author, how well they can write, and how interesting their ideas are.

>>13565001
A handful of idiots trying to prove a point to Internet strangers, but then again, here I am too.

>>13564994
I have a question. Assuming someone is brainwashed, how do they go about being "unbrainwashed"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:55:11 2019 No.13565015 >>13565001 it's just one person, the guy who thinks you have no obligation to society, probably some ancap/libertarian/liberal/centrist fuck who thinks he's an island and everyone else can go fuck themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:55:18 2019 No.13565018 >>13565000 you as an individual will have zero impact on the outcome

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:56:08 2019 No.13565025 >>13565001 I think it's just three or four people people. Evafag, Minamifag and some others. I've run out of Minami.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:56:32 2019 No.13565027 File: 1.66 MB, 1085x1217, 1560934412987.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13565009

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:57:05 2019 No.13565031 >>13565009 Or we can not pollute the earth at all? Wtf is wrong with you

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:58:09 2019 No.13565038 >>13563856 You have to go number 2 but you're with a girl on top of no buffer zone

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:59:35 2019 No.13565046

>>13565014
>I have a question. Assuming someone is brainwashed, how do they go about being "unbrainwashed"?
Not him but one would assume unhindered learning would allow an individual to dirty their brain with individual thoughts. Unironincally consuming literature of various kinds would do that as well as have organic experiences and see real occurrences.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:00:45 2019 No.13565048 >>13563856 Classical is the most exciting, modern is the most insightful, postmodern is the most reddit

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:01:31 2019 No.13565049 >>13563936 Experience

Free Spirit Thu Aug 1 01:03:10 2019 No.13565054
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>>13565031
Someone asked me for hallmarks for the brainwashed. Another one would be the use of "we".

https://youtu.be/sRc8EyPoxOU

Anyway, pic related is Mount Vesuvius. When it finally erupts, you know what happens? The smoke will cover the Earth and the earth will cool into a new ice age. When an earth gets cold, you'll sure have been glad we spent our time heating it up. I'm not sure if destiny is real, but I have a strong feeling things will work out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:08:48 2019 No.13565072 >>13563856 me vs your fuckin noggin op

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:10:13 2019 No.13565076

>>13565014
>Assuming someone is brainwashed, how do they go about being "unbrainwashed"?

fuck if I know. follow your heart I guess? You know how long I pissed around trying to figure out if I was pro-life or pro-choice? Neither side felt right for me, and I was like everyone else. It took quite a while for it to occur to me that I didn't have to choose, cause I thought it was a binary choice like all the rest.

Same thing happened with religion. Read books and this and that and the bible and the Qu'uran and nothing felt right. Well, my religion just wasn't one of the typical options. I had to look inside myself to find it, not at the options presented.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:11:05 2019 No.13565081

>>13565054
Not the guy you're arguing with but the moment we became able to leave this Earth our chains to it were broken. It doesn't really matter what we do to the Earth as we can leave it we must. If we were told the Earth would explode in a year, s hip would be launched to Mars in less than that.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:17:24 2019 No.13565110
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>>13565076
So, your method and point is to analyze the self and follow it true? Thereby understanding that there are tertiary choices for all things? If that's what you mean, you haven't been wording it very well, to be frank (then again, I might not be either). I think there's been three main people in this thread for the anti-brainwashed group, if I can word it like that, so apologies if I'm mixing you up with someone else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:24:50 2019 No.13565140 >>13565081 You're incredibly optimistic, it's sweet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:47:59 2019 No.13565233 >>13565140 I'm pretty cynical and rather pessimistic, but I believe that humans are capable of greatness when pushed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:17:10 2019 No.13566137 Man vs Self, Reality, Reader and God Aka, my book (in progress)

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:33:27 2019 No.13566178 >>13563974 hi james

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:40:12 2019 No.13566187 >>13566137 >man vs reader sounds pretty awful

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:45:07 2019 No.13566204

>>13564338
He's not pro-life nor pro-choice, he's pro shutting-you-the-hell-up

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=regressive#update

So it goes like this, he believes women should not have the right to abortion, but he is in favor of killing babies. That way, everybody loses and he wins.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:46:15 2019 No.13566208 >>13564297 so based

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:50:27 2019 No.13566215 >>13566187 It's a love conflict

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:52:55 2019 No.13566221 File: 2.60 MB, 1920x1080, dear god.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13566215

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:53:28 2019 No.13566223 Solipsism in general. With that, you have the kill switch for conflict. But you will still struggle to do it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:01:37 2019 No.13566250 >>13564444 based quints of tranny killing.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:20:28 2019 No.13566277

>>13566204
the guy you were replying here
good meme you posted but you still know he's stupid, I don't care for special snowflake responses, the very reason the question exists is BECAUSE of societal impact and nothing else and that's why we talk about it in that context and that's why you really have two choices.

If this wasn't an issue and no one cared, then we wouldn't talking about it and if for some reason we would then you could just state your preference of how you want to treat your pregnant wife and I'd say "kthxbai" and it would end there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:22:13 2019 No.13566281 Where is man vs death/non-existence?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:24:37 2019 No.13566289 >>13566281 I think it's supposed to included in "vs god"

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:29:09 2019 No.13566297 >>13566277 >Husband, should I get an abortion? >I have no comment This concept confounds and angers /lit/, the "intellectual" board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:37:52 2019 No.13566312 File: 1.03 MB, 1140x902, yell.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13566277 >listen to me, you have to choose! >there's a societal impact if you don't! >no what are you doing!?!?!

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:32:46 2019 No.13566886 >>13563856 < MAN VS MAN < MAN VS SELF < MAN VS REALITY Why is the middle line always the most entertaining, while the other are always one note rehashing. If u have read one "uh technology can be scary" book you´ve red them all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:07:47 2019 No.13566988 >>13564711 any books for this?

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:29:40 2019 No.13567085

Man Vs. Technology doesn’t belong in the top right, or on this list at all. Any story that fits man vs. technology would be better put in another one of the available categories. the reason man vs. technology seems so shit is ‘cause the first example that comes to mind is Black Mirror because from what ive seen it is only using technology as a device to explore man vs. society (who is making all this frightening technology? ‘the big corporations’, and a lot of the tech is used to promote pier pressure) or man vs. reality (in the lens of virtual reality or brain surgery or whatever else normie-tier notions of ‘what technology is’)

good philosophical scifi will use technology as a plot device to explore man vs whatever, never as technology as a means in itself, because technology is ALWAYS within the context of the society/beings who invented it and how they choose to use it/legislate it, which in black mirror’s case is always retarded. Well, I struggle to think of a story about technology that isn’t really about something ‘greater’.

(actually, as long as i am being autistic about a webcomic, man vs. self outside of the struggles of self-control and man vs. reality are the same thing.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:32:14 2019 No.13567097 >>13563856 >Maturity>pubescence>adolescence

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:11:05 2019 No.13567270 >>13564210 >Man vs Author >uber shit reddit tier Ah, I see you got pleb filtered. At Swim-Two-Birds is a great book as many anons will tell you.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:43:45 2019 No.13567425
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>>13564969
based and checked

Also in the same school of thought as Bull vs Bear, and Pajeet vs Ranjeesh

>>13564444
tbqhm8

>>13564462
>>13564877
Pretty much. If the faggot's indifferent, and is forced to (inb4 you can't force me, this is a philosophical exercise just like his non-binary, you can't make me choose argument) choose, then the only logical choice would be pro-choice, in which case he demonstrated true apathy by relieving himself of the burden of choosing the fate of an unborn.

The choice is not in the sense of pro (mandatory) abortions, or pro (mandatory) life.

>>13567085
>Man vs Tech
Unironically the most applicable example that comes to mind is the Matrix. Maybe later on when AI is a thing of the now we'll have some actual works that can properly encapsulate the idea and struggle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:50:20 2019 No.13567460 >ctrl f: "brainwashed" >23 matches for fucks sake guys

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 16:32:09 2019 No.13568190 >>13563856 >S-tier vs. Self >A-tier vs. Reality vs. No God >B-tier vs. Society vs. Technology >C-tier vs. Man vs. God >D-tier vs. Nature >F-tier vs. Author

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 16:38:34 2019 No.13568224 >>13568190 But vs nature is so comfy tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 16:40:12 2019 No.13568236 >>13563865 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 16:53:50 2019 No.13568310 File: 386 KB, 750x1018, 1564075168132.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Not most but interesting - Society vs jews.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 16:54:23 2019 No.13568312 File: 2 KB, 125x125, 1562517161282s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] for me it's MAN vs Self

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 17:01:02 2019 No.13568345

>>13567085
Literally the only great BM episodes were the vs society and vs reality ones. After season 2 they started doing almost exclusively vs man and its been hot garbage since.
As for your point, I finished reading Ubik yesterday and have been trying to puzzle out why PKD is such a great writer, and what you've said is basically the conclusion I came to. Ostensibly "Do Androids Dream" is about a man who has to eliminate rogue robots from outer space, but it's not really.

If anyone here's ever had the misfortune of reading Dennis E Taylor's Bobiverse, that's what happens when you try to do Man vs Tech with nothing deeper actually backing it. Just the essence of Reddit condensed into a novel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:23:23 2019 No.13569124 >>13563856 Man vs Technology was always a big literary theme. A huge part of Hemingway was Man vs Technology

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:25:45 2019 No.13569134
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>>13567425
>he refused to choose, therefore, logically, he must be pro choice!

Binary thinkers are so pathetic. No, you don't get to make up my mind for me just because you can't process my position.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 20:01:10 2019 No.13569279
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>>13569134
>>he refused to choose, therefore, logically, he must be pro choice!
Not quite, I merely said the conclusion to your apathy, to an outsider or in a thought experiment, would be pro choice, as then you wouldn't have to, yourself, choose the fate of an unborn.

Like many have said, what if your Xyz was pregnant and debating abortion, and asked for your opinion? You'd say I have none, and by extension the question of what she should do would then entirely fall on her. Does that sound familiar? A female having a choice of whether or not to abort her unborn?

We're merely talking about the IMPLICATIONS of your nonchoice and inaction in the real world (i.e. a reactionary simulation in which your actions or inactions have real, quantifiable effects and consequences), and how it may be interpreted by an outsider following perfect logic, not your OPINION on the matter.
Your inaction could lead to an abortion, or it could not, but that's not the point here, merely that it will result in two possible outcomes that adhere to the principles of pro-choice and not pro-life, since the latter would result in only one possible outcome. See what everyone's been trying to tell you now?

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 20:58:39 2019 No.13569529
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>>13569279
You refuse to accept anything outside of the binary brainwashing you've been subjected to, and you make these elaborate extraneous scenarios in a desperate attempt to fit me into one box or another.

At the store, you ask me if you should have a snickers or a reese's pieces. I merely say it makes no difference to me. But you just won't let it go. With anger in your voice, you inform me that if I don't choose, you will choose a snickers and it will be my fault.

But you haven't managed to transform me into a binary thinker through wordgames, you've remained what you are all along, a binary prisoner who can only choose between snickers and reese's. Other people's choices are not my own, even if they throw tantrums.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 21:21:24 2019 No.13569645 >>13569529 How would you see your viewpoint become actualized? Where it would have an effect outside of your own thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 21:23:33 2019 No.13569658 Stone cold Steve Austin vs Vince McMahon

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 21:33:20 2019 No.13569707 File: 33 KB, 507x487, true happiness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] man vs rival

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 23:12:10 2019 No.13570103 >>13563856 Man vs self, particularly when the internal conflict is reflected by another, external one in a manner which heightens both conflicts and the author's point

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 23:14:29 2019 No.13570112 >>13563936 Read the reason of Greek tragedy

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 06:33:16 2019 No.13571379 pussy vs. my tongue

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 08:26:37 2019 No.13571690 >>13571379 Isn't that just Man vs self?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 08:41:42 2019 No.13571727 File: 379 KB, 557x676, 1554254728296.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563856 Man vs a society

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 08:43:44 2019 No.13571733 >>13563856 plato vs the poets

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 09:23:20 2019 No.13571846 File: 117 KB, 1067x650, 1564752200062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13569529 Go Schrodinger's cat yourself please

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 09:55:03 2019 No.13571979 man vs woman (male)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 11:04:49 2019 No.13572205 >>13564799 evangelion of anime tier is my favorite tier, it's very descriptive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 11:24:46 2019 No.13572255 >>13564291 >waifu vs. waifu conflict

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 11:32:16 2019 No.13572275 >>13563936 What is the point of this post?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 12:01:09 2019 No.13572355 >>13564291 >their minds don’t allow for the possibility that i don’t have to join in their petty arguments Imagine being this self-centered

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 12:02:28 2019 No.13572363 >>13564376 The society man

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 12:59:39 2019 No.13572566

>>13564291
>Anon, are you pro-life or pro-choice?
>I am neither pro-life nor pro-choice.
People don't accept it because you've wasted more words than if you had just said pro-life or pro-choice and failed to convey any coherent opinion on the issue.
Being "neither pro-life nor pro-choice" doesn't mean anything by itself, in fact to have meaning it needs to latch onto the categories of pro-life and pro-choice, thus strenghening them even more.
If this is some attempt at being a centrist, this is the worst type of centrism there is. Instead of having enough conviction to defend yourself against both sides all at once, you'd prefer to not have any convictions at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 13:05:24 2019 No.13572598 >>13563856 What's the difference?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 13:06:12 2019 No.13572603 man vs media lies

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 14:25:47 2019 No.13573016 >>13564291 >implying asuka and rei ever hugged

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 14:53:06 2019 No.13573174 File: 175 KB, 236x349, 1550355046424.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man vs Society.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 15:55:32 2019 No.13573510 >>13563974 Man vs. nature/technology, depending on when it’s set.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 17:25:36 2019 No.13573959
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>>13572566
>Instead of having enough conviction to defend yourself against both sides all at once, you'd prefer to not have any convictions at all.

In the realm of Binary Thinking, it is seen as unforgivable to not have views on every single subject. I've never listened to Tool, and so, when asked if I like or hate Tool, I'd say neither.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 18:32:54 2019 No.13574301
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>>13573959
In your examples you are comparing apples and oranges in the most appropriate sense of the expression. Now let's assume your answers are absolute and whatever you say will become.

You say you don't have an opinion on Tool when asked if you like it, and the person asking wouldn't have knowledge of your opinion, but your answer doesn't have any impact or consequences since they didn't ask if they should listen to Tool

Now in your previous example you're asked if someone should have a Snickers or Reese's, and you say you don't have an opinion (Remember, your opinion is law), and by extension you put all the pressure of choosing on whoever asked you that question (Thus they have the autonomy to choose for themselves)

Just as someone might ask you if they should get an abortion or not, and you say you have no opinion (Your word is law, again), and again you put the autonomy of choice in whoever asked you that question (In line with the previous example, they have the choice)

Now, you didn't choose anything in all these examples, but your inaction has lead to consequences also. In the first, it's lead to someone not knowing your preference, something trivial. In the second, it lead to someone having choice of sweets, also trivial. And in the third, it's also lead to someone having choice of whether or not to abort, a heavy question of debate

Let me put it this way, A produces 1 outcome of 2, B produces 2 outcomes of 2, and C produces 2 outcomes of two. So A=1/2, B=2/2, and C=2/2
Now, logically, B=C, therefore B and C could be used interchangeable to describe the same variable
Now let's say A is Pro-Life, B is Pro-Choice, and C is Neither
And since B=C, your nonchoice of Neither would also equate a choice of Pro-Choice
Now you *DIDN'T CHOOSE* anything, but we still ended up with an outcome. This is how things work in the real world where inaction does have consequences, and if you can't understand it beyond that then you really should Shrodinger's cat yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 01:23:36 2019 No.13576044 >>13574301 t. binary boy

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