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>Works of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>40 volumes

Was he even human?

>> No.13555330

>>13555303
He didn't spend his time shit posting on lit

>> No.13555341
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>>13555330

He had time enough for fun though.

>> No.13555344

>>13555303
How much worth reading, though?

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13555350

Step your game up

>> No.13555358

You have to remember that when they make anthologies for authors such as Goethe, that they include his not necessary literary writings which serve as primary sources to his life.
So this includes the diary of the author, and also his letters and pieces he wrote for papers.
Goethe also re-worked some of his writings, and in cases like these, they tend to include multiple versions of the same work for scholars to study them. (See Urfaust->Faust)
Tolstoy's "complete works" come to a staggering 70 volumes in Russian if I remember, but a lot of it is just different versions of War and Peace, accompanied by his extensive collection of letters he exchanged with people.
And then there is Marx and Engles like >>13555350 posted.
Lenin's complete works total 70 volumes too, but most if it is just letters and dogshit newspaper articles.

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>>13555303
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx-Engels-Gesamtausgabe
>The entire project is expected to be 114 volumes total.

>> No.13555372

Haha. Imagine being imprisoned by the Nazis and reading all of Goethe. Wouldn't that be funny?

>During the last months of the war, Josef Pieper saw the realization of a long-cherished plan to escape from the “lethal chaos” that was the Germany of that time, “plucked,” he writes, “as was Habakkuk, by the hair of his head . . . to be planted into a realm of the most peaceful seclusion, whose borders and exists were, of course, controlled by armed sentries.” There he made contact with a friend close-by, who possessed an amazing library, and Pieper hit upon the idea of reading the letters of Goethe from that library. Soon, however, he decided to read the entire Weimar edition of fifty volumes, which were brought to him in sequence, two or three at a time.

https://www.staugustine.net/our-books/books/the-silence-of-goethe/

>> No.13555373

>not printing out all your boardposts to allow future biographers to better evaluate your oeuvre.

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tolstoy's collected writings is 90 volumes

>> No.13555407

>>13555369
Wow. Is all of that available online? I wonder how many well read Marxists have actually completed the whole thing

>> No.13555416

>>13555373
>not owning Volumes 1-1000 of all /lit/ threads

>> No.13555429

>>13555407
most of them didn't even read das kapital

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>>13555303
>>13555350
>>13555379
Martin Luther's Works, 121 volumes / 80,000 pages

>> No.13555449

>>13555358
When I die a famed author, will they print out my 4chan posts and put them in my anthology (including this one)?

>> No.13555452

>>13555445
Also the pictured edition took 120 years to compile

>> No.13555473

>>13555449
Well, it all depends on if there is enough academic interest in your work, and if the academics working on the edition can definitively trace the post back to you.

>> No.13555479

>>13555449
You have to make sure to catalogue them all, else it will be really hard to identify them.

>> No.13555483

I think Leibniz had at least 120, and his genius dwarfs everyone else mentioned in this thread.

>> No.13555486

>>13555473
>>13555479
I might start signing all my posts, to make identification easier.

I think I will choose the moniker: Anonymous.

>> No.13555506

>>13555486
Or just join the subhuman plague of tripfags.

>> No.13555511

brevity is the soul of wit. 100 volumes of personal letters isn't going to be as good as a 100 page well written work

>> No.13555514

>>13555483
most of it is just mathematical and political nonsense, very few actual philosophy and literature.

>> No.13555517

>>13555514
Philosophy is a branch of mathematics.

>> No.13555524

Unrelated but can someone tell my why the fuck there is so much german fan fiction with goethe and schiller as lovers? I didn’t even know that they were friends.

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>>13555330

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How many volumes would Lovecraft be if we included all of his surviving letters?

>Lovecraft variously gives his daily output of letters at anywhere between five and fifteen; if we assume a middle ground of eight to ten, we reach some 3500 letters a year; over a twenty-three year period (1914-1936) we already reach 80,500 at what is probably a conservative estimate. Of these, it is my belief that no more than 10,000 survive.

>> No.13555560

>>13555511
>Spend $250 on a multi-volume collection of writings from your favourite author
>It's 90% letters about completely random shit nobody not even the writers cared about they just wanted to stay in touch despite having nothing to actually talk about

>> No.13555573

>>13555560
That sounds quite comfy though.

>> No.13555580

>>13555555
>that handwriting
I could barely make it through the first paragraph before I had to give up.

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>>13555555

>555555

GET from beyond the stars

>> No.13555593

>>13555555
worthy get

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>>13555580

Here's what it says in case you are curious.

>> No.13555616

>>13555573
The novelty wears off very quickly.

When you read Tolkien's letters it exposes you to what LotR actually really meant to him and his extremely unique form of nationalism.

When you read Lovecraft's letters you get him talking how much he hates seafood and complaining that Quinn is more popular than him.

>> No.13555626

>>13555600
That's a poor transcription; e.g. it says Cerleth when it should be Derleth, near the beginning.

>> No.13555635

>>13555616
Here's what is worth reading from Lovecraft:
1. His complete fiction
2. His revisions
3. Some of his essays
4. Some of his poetry
That's it.

>> No.13555636

>>13555616

>Unique form of nationalism
>Hatred of seafood

Call me crazy, but I love this stuff. Let the idiosyncrasies shine through!

>> No.13555644

>>13555555
nice get

>> No.13555650

>>13555626

Auction houses today are but a faint echo of their former selves. It's a real disaster.

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>>13555635

Aren't you forgetting something?

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>collected "works"
>includes letters
guys my collated, printed shitposts would be the biggest compendium known to man

>> No.13555703

>>13555555
I'm pretty sure Lord Dunsany has Lovecraft beat, the family has a full-time dedicated curator that has spent 30 years sorting his shit out and every year they find enough new material to publish yet another book, and that isn't even including enough letters to occupy a entire building by themselves.

>> No.13555720

>>13555373
Why do you think I use a trip code? Much easier to archive and find my old posts

>> No.13555770

What are your thoughts on The Elective Affinities? This guy has a huge hard-on for it.

http://www.eoht.info/page/Elective+Affinities

>> No.13555775

>>13555703

>Live one life
>Bequeath ten lifetimes of work to posterity

Utterly based.

>> No.13555806

>>13555775
Plus his influence is fucking immense, just in the fantasy genre alone without his influence A Song of Ice and Fire, The Book of the New Sun, Dungeons & Dragons and The Lord of the Rings would not exist.

>> No.13555885

>>13555341
Wat

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>>13555885

She was a real party animal that one.

>> No.13555980

>>13555555
based digits

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>L. Ron Hubbard was a prolific writer; according to the church, his written teachings make up approximately 500,000 pages and 3,000 recorded lectures, totaling about 65 million words. He also produced a hundred films and 500 short stories and novels.

>> No.13556224

>>13556062
And humanity would be better off if each of those books, films and lectures were to be forever erased.

>> No.13556260

>>13556224

>Hubbard's texts have been engraved on stainless steel tablets and encased in titanium capsules underground.

>The Church of Scientology protects Hubbard’s writings with “extraordinary zeal.” Copies of Hubbard's text are preserved and hidden behind fences, in deep vaults, guarded by tight security.

>The base includes a number of dwellings and the archives themselves, the latter in a network of underground tunnels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trementina_Base

You are now aware that Hubbard will be one of the only authors to survive the coming apocalypse.

You are now aware that primitive humans will emerge from the ruins. In time they will discover his writings.

>> No.13556272

>>13555303
Balzac’s Human Comedy tops that I think

>> No.13556295

>>13555372
I've read the theory that much of the Marxist theorizing of the Russian revolutionary underground was made possible thanks to their reading time spent in Tsarist prisons.

>> No.13556306

>>13555555
Imagine how little we will know about current authors in comparison to what we know about those from the past. Their letters survive, our e-mails and shitposting on forums and imageboards won't.

Truly we live in what the future will call a "dark ages" out of sheer lack of documentation left.

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>>13556260

>> No.13558671

>>13555555
Blessed niggerman

>> No.13558708

Leibniz was even more prolific. Apparently there's a whole library in Switzerland filled with his miscellanea and notes.

>> No.13558770

>>13555720
>thinking any tripfag has something worth keeping

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>>13555555
checked

>> No.13559637

>>13555720
your eternal sins will not be burned of in the flames of hell my friend

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>>13555555
the color out of sexts

>> No.13559661

>>13555445
http://www.beyng.com/hb/gesamt.html
Heidegger was 102 total.
My god Heidegger lost

>> No.13559670

>>13558708
I think that is mostly about math and mathematical calculation, not philosophical.

>> No.13560074

>>13555514
Leibniz wrote extensively on virtually every possible subject. He really was a madman.

>> No.13560091

>>13559670
It's not. Mathematics is very compact in writing space compared to other subjects.
Even the mightiest lads like Cauchy or Euler or Lagrange only fill 20 volumes and it is considered overwhelming, and so did Leibniz, the 100 other volumes are about other topics.

>> No.13560099

It's sad the Schopenhauer is the only one to truly appreciate Goethe's profound philosophical mind.

>> No.13560114

>>13555373
I am saving all my good posts and thoughts.
The sheer size shall be the main appeal.

>> No.13560138

Murray Rothbard probably have a few dozen thousand pages worth. His main books alone should be over ten thousand.
>His 62-page bibliography spans nearly half a century, from 1949 to 1995. He wrote 30 full-length books. >He contributed 100 full chapters for edited works. And he authored more than 1,000 scholarly and popular articles.

>> No.13560152

>>13555720

Imagine being this delusional. Taking faggotry to a whole new level

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>>13556260

>> No.13560817

>>13555303
>Ctrl+F
> no mention of Lope de Vega

1800 theatrical comedies and 400 autos (I do not know the english word for it).

>> No.13560870

>>13556272
It's not that big. Around a hundred works, I remember reading volumes that had half a dozen of them each. So at best you're talking 20 volumes. Still very impressive in that it from a single (if overarching) masterpiece. In most cases if the collected works comprise 50 volumes you can safely ignore 20 to 30 of them.

>> No.13560893

>>13556260
i look at stuff like this and it destroys all hope i have for the US

>> No.13560915

>>13560893
On a more hopeful note, the Library of Congress is the biggest in the world with over 13 millions works.
Also
>assuming the ramblings of Hubbard will ever be found
Heh. They might stay buried in the earth for millenia but there is no garantuee anyone will stumble upon them and if they do, no guarantee people will understand them. I'm sure the smartypants at Scientology didn't think of translating the works in a variety of languages.

>> No.13560919

>>13555517
kek good one, Anon.

>> No.13560929

>>13555341
what a motherfucker

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>>13556260
why did you tell me this?

>> No.13561304

"The last man to know everything".

>> No.13561318

>>13555555
And his letters weren't simple one-pager, he wrote entire fucking essays when he wrote to, for example, Robert E. Howard.

>> No.13561334

>>13555555
Based Lovecraftposter

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>>13561304

You called?

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>>13561318

It's insane how generous he was to those who wrote to him--even to the point of visiting a love-struck fan in Florida.

>Finally, in the spring of 1934, Barlow invited Lovecraft to visit him in Florida, and Lovecraft went. Barlow hadn’t mentioned his age, and he was reluctant to send along a photo of himself, because, he said, he had a “boil.” Lovecraft was surprised to discover, when he got off the bus in DeLand, that Barlow had just turned sixteen. Lovecraft was forty-three.

>So there they were, the older writer, in a rumpled suit and with a face “not unlike Dante,” according to Barlow; and the young fan, slight and weasel-faced, with slicked-back black hair and glasses with thick round lenses. Barlow’s father was visiting relatives in the North, and Lovecraft ended up staying with Barlow and his mother for seven weeks. What did they do, in all that time? Barlow tells us that they gathered berries in the woods; they composed couplets on difficult rhymes (orange, Schenectady); they rowed on the lake behind Barlow’s house.

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>>13561352
Pffft rookie

>> No.13563100

>>13556306
That's not exactly true though. If people care about you enough they will search for you.
The only available examples I have to give you are of Elliot Rodger and of Adam Lanza. Finding Elliot Rodger's blog posts were easy as he used his real identity. Adam Lanza was using an alias he used on a public forum along the lines of "Squiggles." There has been no profound author of our time yet, so nobody cares to search for such things yet. Of course, public forum posts are easier to find than private emails or anonymous posts.
On the topic of anonymous contributions, look up the /sci/ Haruhi problem. In this example /sci/ has made an anonymous contribution to mathematics with no person being credited for it.

>> No.13563125

>>13563100
It was "smiggles" actually.

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*blocks your path*
>Balzac's work habits are legendary. He wrote from 1 am to 8 am every morning and sometimes even longer. Balzac could write very rapidly; some of his novels, written with a quill, were composed at a pace equal to thirty words per minute on a modern typewriter
>He often worked for fifteen hours or more at a stretch; he claimed to have once worked for 48 hours with only three hours of rest in the middle.