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Is the written word a degeneration of the oral? Is the oral superior to the written?

>> No.13530121

I wish languages never existed at all. fuck them all.

>> No.13530135
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13530135

No, the fact that writing even exists shows that there was a fundamental lack or deficiency in oral communication that writing was invented to fulfill

>> No.13530143

>>13530121
once the neural link comes we can just get rid of it. then logical inference and mathematics will be thrown in the dustbin of history where they belong

>> No.13530145

>>13530110
Written word seems to convey more meaning and has more rigid rules, whereas oral communication seems much more relaxed and oriented to the speaker. I think oral communication leaves more room for creativity but written communication does not.

>> No.13530150

>>13530135
Lack faggot.

>> No.13530195
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>Written word seems to convey more meaning
How so?

>> No.13530213

>>13530143
This very old. Burroughs wrote an essay on it with the phrase "language is a virus" which has been a meme of the past three quarters of a century, and it wasn't necessarily original when he wrote it. Google the phrase, and read moar.
Unironically based and redpilled.

Language is the virus that infected primates and gave birth to civilisation. We are not the hardware we are the software and we should delete the sys32 folder in our own minds ASAP.

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Two different mediums, two different sets of pros and cons. WhyNotDoBoth.jpg

>> No.13530232

>>13530224
fuck you

>> No.13530245

>>13530224
Super retarded post. Oral communication includes facial and emotional queues that aren’t present in text, reading is like intentionally living life as an autist.

>> No.13530264

>>13530232
>>>/v/

>> No.13530327

>>13530110
Folks might enjoy this blog series (Yuppie but worthwhile) and the framework of "soft technologies" for thinking about the similar changes happening in our century:
https://breakingsmart.com/en/season-1/a-new-soft-technology/#_ftn1

>>13530135
Where does this end? All things can be interpreted as lacking - should we culminate in some kind of gestalt consciousness?

>>13530213
once supported by brain growth after caloric surplus from ?cooking? discovery?

>> No.13530332

>>13530224
>>13530264
who not stop posting in my thread?

>> No.13530339

>>13530213
>>13530143
>>13530135
>>13530121
>let me talk a bunch of garbage on language within language

also writing exists because sumerians couldn't remember how many fucking sheep and shit they had, not some sort of deficiency in communication but reliable memory and record keeping

>> No.13530418

>>13530143
Language is the immanentization of form. Pythagoreanism is actually a kind of either devaluing or elucidation of Primally old shamanic wisdom expressed fractally in almost cargo cult like fashion (compared to its unbroken form) in ancient Egyptian and ANE cultures and cosmologies etc.

Thus it follows that Platonism is a degenerate and secular form of pythagorianism and neoplatonism is a partial affirmation if not return toward the reconciliation of the profoundly illogical aspects of "philosophy". The commentary tradition of neo pythagorean, middle platonist and of the "commentators" are contrary to popular belief, not banal rote missives rather invocations of punctuated equilibrium born of repitition. This repitition guarantees to prove unequivocally that univocal agreement is practically impossible.

There is an inherent geography and corporeality to language, at it's limits (this limit is paradox/Demi-god) and when these limits are stroked and fluffed into affirmed arousal they become paradoxes which in turn become vaginas which are liminal zones, thresholds and portals in the mind of the human.

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You can't remove mental abstractions unfortunately.

Unless you go full on insane to escape the tiranny of language and intelligence

>> No.13530527

>>13530339
>writing exists because sumerians couldn't remember how many fucking sheep and shit they had
Sounds like writing was invented to fulfill a deficiency. Hmmmm

>> No.13530668

>>13530110
No, according to the laws of rhetoric, oral communication is limited in its ability to persuade/convey complex ideas compared to written communication.

Remember that communication is only as effective as its ability to exist retained in the memory of it's audience.

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>>13530110
>oral

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Case and point