You will never defeat him.

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Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:36:32 2019 No.13435111 [Reply] [Original]

You will never defeat him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:43:25 2019 No.13435154 File: 23 KB, 332x400, 44312E5B-65EF-4689-BE8C-D75652064176.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heh, nothing personnel kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:43:44 2019 No.13435155 >>13435111 I never tried to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:45:13 2019 No.13435162 File: 67 KB, 850x400, schopenhauerhume.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435154 Back to bed little boy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:46:13 2019 No.13435168 >>13435162 Who the hell is Schleiermacher?

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:47:40 2019 No.13435175

I just saw him get defeated in one of those Ayn Rand threads.

Philosophy has turned from the search for truth in to becoming one of the greatest examples of the sunken cost fallacy in action ever seen. Philosophy has been resolved, but people have put so much effort in to unproductive schools of thought that they can't bare to abandon them like an old man who refuses to leave his house that happens to be in the path of a tornado.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:48:03 2019 No.13435176 File: 39 KB, 680x838, 1562545294697.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435111 Then I shall learn from him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:50:41 2019 No.13435186 >>13435175 How has philosophy been resolved?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:51:23 2019 No.13435193 >>13435175 >Philosophy has been resolved care to share?

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:52:18 2019 No.13435197

>>13435111
Don't wanna. But it's interesting to read the attempts of those who have tried. Logical positivism despite all the heavy weapons that went into it was still ultimately just the proverbial expression of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "I can't hear you."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:53:56 2019 No.13435209 >>13435186 >>13435175 Would also like to know how *philosophy* has been resolved. Deliver anon, let us ascend with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:54:09 2019 No.13435210 File: 65 KB, 244x360, oe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435186 >>13435193

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:56:16 2019 No.13435219 File: 31 KB, 243x400, 2199850.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 00:02:01 2019 No.13435251 >>13435111 The big daddy Scholastics defeated him before he even existed without moving a finger, modern philosophy is simply the rebellious teenager that runs wild and refuses to see that light for the day

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 00:03:39 2019 No.13435257 >>13435219 I tried to read this, but for the studies I didn't have time to read it. Can you summarize the book? What relation with Kant?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 00:06:07 2019 No.13435271 >>13435251 Scholastics were unable to put out a convincing refutation of nominalism. The failure is yours for bringing the likes of Kant and friends in to this world. You had one job and you screwed it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 02:12:30 2019 No.13435698
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>>13435111
Floating and detached from reality. All Kant amounts to is a cthulu-tier construction where all he did was flex his imagination and prose. -Imagination- is precisely what you do not apply to reality. The categories are meticulous and even fascinating, but that never made them true. Kant did to philosophy what science fiction does to technology.
>>13435175
>>13435210
Integrated and goldpilled. Coining this now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 03:10:08 2019 No.13435818 >>13435698 ayn rand should've had a hot dog shoved up her cunt and tortured on a national stage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 03:54:29 2019 No.13435927 >>13435698 She couldn’t even read him LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 04:00:12 2019 No.13435947 >>13435162 Schopenhauer is an honorary Anglo. Granted, nowhere nearly as vulgar in subject matter, which is practically impossible for non-Anglos, but every bit as vulgar in argumentation and conclusions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 04:04:39 2019 No.13435961 >>13435698 Where exactly does Kant do this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 08:30:29 2019 No.13436729 File: 101 KB, 608x712, 1558548096338.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435111 No, but he can

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 08:32:37 2019 No.13436736 File: 9 KB, 180x256, 2357534568.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435111 His Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics arrived at my door some 20 minutes ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 08:39:45 2019 No.13436764 File: 41 KB, 500x500, oswald-spengler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] .

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 08:41:48 2019 No.13436772 He defeated himself. If you read his Opus Postumum he backtracks hard af on the claims he made on the Critique

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 08:43:15 2019 No.13436776 >>13436729 Make this w white boy head being choked by black dick or white baby

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:33:18 2019 No.13436935 philosophy grad. here The noumena can be known by inspecting the nature of the phenomena. /thread Kant is a pseud-filter in philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:35:02 2019 No.13436942 >>13436935 Also philosophy grad here, what do you mean by 'inspecting the nature of the phenomena' and how does that give you knowledge of noumena?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:46:14 2019 No.13436966 File: 91 KB, 825x1000, Hume2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435111 he was retroactively btfo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:46:29 2019 No.13436970 >>13435251 How did scholastics defeat Kant? If you give a brainlet answer consider your /lit/ credentials forfeited

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:52:47 2019 No.13436984
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Big brain take: Sensuous matter is not subjective affections of the mind but objective things in themselves accessed by the mind as they are in themselves. The Kantian 'object of consciousness' constructed from supposed intuitions referring to supposed external objects and applied concepts, including categories, is a Humean fiction: we can't help but think these things, and believe they are objective, but they are actually subjective.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:55:46 2019 No.13436988 File: 493 KB, 1415x1791, Immanuel_Kant2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435111 disclaimer: kant actually looked like this

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:57:10 2019 No.13436992 File: 156 KB, 769x550, kant's noumenal self.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436988

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:57:38 2019 No.13436994 >>13436988 Is that why he had his portrait done at that strange angle?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:57:50 2019 No.13436995 >>13435219 >memeing the preface writer to trick people into buying your shitty book kek, cheap

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:59:17 2019 No.13437004 >>13436966 >>13436984 >actually read hume >beginning of Treatise of Human Nature is idealist garbage d r o p p e d r o p p e d

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 10:00:21 2019 No.13437009 >>13436992 >>13436994 he was a 4'5" manlet so obviously he was a master of cope, his looks aside

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 10:03:09 2019 No.13437021

>>13437004
Or you could read him as a neutral monist. He says an oyster mind could consist in one single impression, believes minds are strung from impressions, and seems open to impressions existing before minds thing them, which presumably means before minds as bundles of perceptions come to include them within themselves. It's not the same as Berkeleian or Fichtean subjective idealism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 10:03:21 2019 No.13437022 >>13436970 No the anon back there but the scholastics would say to Kant: "yes my dude, there are a priori forms of the subject as you say but there are also a priori forms of the object"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 10:21:32 2019 No.13437081 >>13437009 no wonder he couldn't reach the things in themselves

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 10:35:02 2019 No.13437125 >>13437081 in the realm of the phenomena i might be a manlet but that's only an illusion, in the realm of the noumena i'm a giant

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 10:37:17 2019 No.13437130 >>13435698 >Kant did to philosophy what science fiction did to technolpgy Inspire it to higher heights?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 11:08:48 2019 No.13437223 >>13437022 That's not an argument though, only an assertion. Besides, Kant dispensed with that sort of thinking in his own work (see "neglected alternative" and the arguments that Kant already addressed such thing in his own work)

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 11:12:30 2019 No.13437230

Treating philosophy like professional sports is the dumbest thing imaginable. If a philosopher advances a philosophy you disagree with, they aren't your adversary but your friend for exposing what you disagree with so it can be examined; they are merely a messenger. Moreover studying philosophy with the aim of mentally upvoting/downvoting everything is peak brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 11:22:50 2019 No.13437259 >>13437125 the noumenal chad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 11:45:46 2019 No.13437322 >>13436772 I have NOT read that anon, thank you anon. I'll incorporate what I read in my Objectivist critique

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 11:52:59 2019 No.13437340 >>13435162 DAMN schopenhauer looked like THAT when he was young?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 11:55:20 2019 No.13437348 >>13437230 The virgin eristic vs. the chad dialogue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 12:13:23 2019 No.13437434 File: 8 KB, 299x169, cringe_and_bluepilled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435175 >Ayn Rand

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 12:24:08 2019 No.13437486 >you share a board with """people"" who take ayn rand seriously

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:01:57 2019 No.13437659 >>13437486 This leddit sentiment is less and less popular every day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:17:15 2019 No.13437717 >>13436942 lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:17:57 2019 No.13437720 >>13437659 >if I call something plebbit I might reverse meme them into taking my cult leader seriously

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:18:45 2019 No.13437726 >>13437146 BOSS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:22:26 2019 No.13437739 File: 152 KB, 1110x1239, 1556083619396.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13437720 Simmer down r/philosophy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:29:16 2019 No.13437769 >>13437720 >cult leader There it is again, this shit that everything about the woman contradicts. You were GIVEN your opinion of Rand. Imagine being in the same sphere of opinion as Cracked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5YWTFW5WMw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:30:39 2019 No.13437776 File: 956 KB, 320x240, seIrDRv.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13437739 >if I call something plebbit I might reverse meme them into taking my cult leader seriously

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:39:23 2019 No.13437825 >>13437769 You just need to look up any random 2 lines by Ayn Rand as someone familiar with philosophy to see she literally didn't read the people she criticized/praised

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:43:00 2019 No.13437839 >>13437769 >if I call something Cracked I might reverse meme them into taking my cult leader seriously

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:46:10 2019 No.13437857 File: 86 KB, 696x696, HEAD-Shrek-reboot-696x696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13437825 >ever reading burger """philosophy"""

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:56:03 2019 No.13437906 File: 307 KB, 292x551, 1545793652242.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13437720 >>13437776 >>13437839

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:46:20 2019 No.13438110 >>13435168 He is most well known even today to every philosophy student in Germany for being THE plato translator. he did other shit as well though, but irrelevant today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:50:00 2019 No.13438124 File: 672 KB, 1490x1496, 1552855620897.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that you haven't read Kant and understand his philosophy if you haven't read his Critiques in German.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 15:09:32 2019 No.13438195 >>13438124 I wonder how many people /lit/ has gaslit into never reading certain works because they "need to read the original to actually understand anything".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 15:25:42 2019 No.13438286 >>13438195 None. Deep down we all know English is the superior language

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:03:57 2019 No.13438814 File: 1.61 MB, 720x1280, 3246375246.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435111 It cannot be done.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:10:17 2019 No.13438853 >>13438848 I made it just 10 minutes ago, you may have it my friend

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 19:54:30 2019 No.13439738 >>13438853 But stealing goes against the categorical imperative

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 20:04:52 2019 No.13439789 >>13439738 It’s cool, I’ll be fucking his girl in no time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 20:11:35 2019 No.13439831 File: 304 KB, 793x529, 1562023522671.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13439789 >gets nothing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:59:15 2019 No.13441053 >>13439738 kant doesn't believe in intellectual property

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:01:09 2019 No.13441728 baste

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:05:30 2019 No.13441741 >>13439738 yes but as the creator and original poster of the webm, it's within my right to grant it to anon, which I did

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:06:59 2019 No.13441744 >>13437009 Literally all of civilization is a cope for non-Chads. You think art and philosophy matter in a world where you're fucking hotties all day?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:09:02 2019 No.13441748 >>13441744 Civilisation is just a way for Chad to acquire more thots. Agriculture and plumbing allow for a larger total number of thots, that betas have to build it for him is part of the fun

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:21:52 2019 No.13441789 >>13441748 Civilization gives betas access to thots by rewarding them with resources if they contribute enough to said civilization. In a state of nature Chadness is determined entirely by one's genes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:15:49 2019 No.13441939 >>13441789 >Civilization gives betas access to thots By access, do you mean 'can see'? Because the thots remain the property of Chad, and betas don't get to fuck them

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