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Face it. Philosophy is outdated and will soon be replaced by science it is useless. All philosophy can do is ask (wrong) questions it Is science that actually solves things for us and serves humanity. Once we figure out how the brain woris epistemology wont be needed, and once physics advances metaphysics wont be needed. Philosophy AND art and literature and useless for humanity and don't do anything for humanity. All they amount to today is self help basically...but you might as well read actual self help instead. You would do well to drop both of those and pick up a science to do something useful for humanity and be fufilled with yourself instead of poisoning your mind with pessimistic philosophy and literature. We live in the great time of yet there is no reason to be pessimistic you "doomers" are just doing the wrong things.

>> No.13431530
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>>13431523

>> No.13431556

>>13431530
not bait but ok keep using philosophy to do mental gymnastics to find clever ways to fool yourself while use scientists do actual work. we live life not ideas.

>> No.13431562

>>13431523
>>13431556
Interesting philosophy. Now how do you justify it?

>> No.13431586

>>13431523
>let me tell you why you should be a literal tool and hate yourself if you try to resist
Thanks late capitalism.

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There you go, OP

>> No.13431595

Only a complete brainlet would say that!
The advancement of science is precisely the reason why we need philosophy more than ever.

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>science

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OP, read Nietzsche and his critique of science.

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>>13431523
There is no science without philosophy, champ.

>> No.13431670

>>13431523
This is thread is bait trash, but I do want to read /lit/'s sci fi.
Yes it's easy to picture dystopic technological societies, and it'd be nice to return to nature Uncle Ted-style, but seeing as industry and technology will most likely be here to stay, what does the best possible outcome look like?
What the ideal religion to guide scientific progress? Is Star Trek's magical post-scarcity communism?

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>>13431523
>the worship of ugliness will win
Nice job, guys.

>> No.13431687

>>13431523
yo frog ur pee is yellow you should drink more water

>> No.13431691

>>13431636
Replace philosophy, ontology and epistemology by mathematics and you got it, philosophy outside of mathematics is basically irrelevant for science.
And no, the philosophy of science isn't really relevant to science itself, its a nice hobby project, but that doesn't make it relevant.

>> No.13431698

>>13431678
That looks pretty great actually. Ugly is those prison-looking brutalist architecture bureaucracy buildings.

>> No.13431701

>>13431636
Very redpilled image.

>> No.13431704

>>13431523
So much ideology in one post.

>> No.13431715

>>13431698
You need to go back.

>> No.13431717

>>13431691
>p-please pay attention to math!

>> No.13431722

>>13431523
>Philosophy AND art and literature and useless for humanity and don't do anything for humanity.
Art is literally the only reason to live. Otherwise what's left?

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>>13431636
Replace rational intuition with mysticism

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>SCIENCE GOOD
>LITERATURE BAD

>> No.13432012

ya aint wrong froggie. but it seems you dont understand what heidegger had to say which still makes you a dualist moron. in this way it equates you to a bazinga picklerick and it tarnishes ahem posting.

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You're supposed to read philosophy to become cultured and interesting to talk to, not because it has any tangible benefit in the real world moron.

>> No.13432036

>>13431636
based but what do the dragons represent then?

>> No.13432044

>>13431678
To be fair, that is pretty memorable.

>> No.13432050

>>13431523
We need a technocracy

>> No.13432056

>>13431523
Yes, science is good, but the arts are fun.

>> No.13432062

>>13431523
Science only gives us insights into the truth, but it cannot tell us for certain what the truth is.

>> No.13432142

>>13431687
underrated

>> No.13432258

>>13432050
who the fuck do you think is making laws currently?? do you think politicians write all the laws? They copy paste it from their consultants which are the stooges from the technocrats.
We have the technocracy already.

>> No.13432264

>>13431562
based

>> No.13432293

>>13431530
>BAITO
that's "bite", not "bait"

>> No.13432301

>>13431698
Brutalism owns, the soul of man must be destroyed by his environs.

>> No.13432302

>>13432062
Philosophy can't tell us for certain what the truth is either, retard. Do you actually think any philosopher has found an answer to that question? Do you think there's been any "progress" on that question in the last 100 years in philosophy?

>> No.13432385

>>13432258
Engineers aren't in charge. You don't know what technocracy means. But desu I would prefer to be reigned over by wise and benevolent A.I overlords instead

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>>13431636

>> No.13432534

>>13432507
WHAT DO THE DRAGONS REPRESENT?

>> No.13432557

>>13432385
Would you live in a society with total surveillance, with the feeds only accessible by the AI overlord?
Would you prefer the AI overlord to be programmed to be the Christian God, tallying up people's sins and occasionally giving them a command to sacrifice something
Or something else

>> No.13432573

>>13431717
???
Mathematics has made pretty much any science in existence possible.
There is no science without mathematics...

>> No.13432589

>>13432534
CUT THE FIREBOX
ESCAPE THE GNOMES

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>>13431523
>blocks your path

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>>13431691
>doesn't know what mathematics is

>> No.13432606

Lot's of outdated views on philosophy here. Philosophy since the 20th century has become more than trying to solve mere epistimological issues or a search for "truth." It has taken up a mixture of political theory, ecology, aesthetics, economics, cultural critique, literary theory, etc. It is because everyone and mostly stemfags are philosophically illiterate that we are in the issues we are in today. I recommend reading the following to keep up with the times: Deleuze, Marx, Whitehead, Foucault, Adorno, Benjamin, Stengers, and so on. Philosophy is very much a creative endeavor and should be seen as such. "The diagnosis of becomings in every passing present is what Nietzsche assigned to the philosopher as physician, physician of civilization or inventor of new immanent modes of existence."

>> No.13432613

>>13431523
The brain has up to 11th dimensional structures. It won't be figured out.

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>>13432534
YOU HAVE TO SLAY THE DRAGON OF CHAOS

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>>13432056
>science is good.

>> No.13432626

>>13432534
read the bible.

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>OMG SCIENCE!

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>>13432637
pretty based quote desu

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>>13432673
>pretty based quote desu

>> No.13432708

This is all continental philosophy's fault. They make material claims about the world that are unfalsifiable pseudoscientific bullshit and then claim that they're as valid as science.

>> No.13432720

>>13431595
There would be no science without philosophy.

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>>13431523
"to philosophize means to be entirely and constantly troubled by and immediately sensitive to the complete enigma of things that common sense considers self-evident and unquestionable."

Philosophy needs science to exist

>> No.13432732

>>13432723
Science needs philosophy to exist*

>> No.13432744

>>13432708
No one has said they're as valid as science.

>> No.13432763

>>13432744

Then why bother discussing them at all you fucking Mongolian retard

Why make prescriptive claims regarding society on their basis

Can't you see how that could lead to adverse consequences

>> No.13432765

>>13431562
/thread

>> No.13432784

>>13431636
Atlas held up the heavens you numbskull

>> No.13432792

>>13431636
Would any big brain anons help a brainlet out and explain this image to me?

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>>13432763
Disgusting spacing.

>> No.13432819

>>13432807

I've been going on this board for 10 fucking years you fucking double nigger