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Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:51:47 2019 No.13373582 [DELETED]

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What do you read to learn to understand how someone could turn from straight with an intense attraction to girls to gay at the age of 20?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:53:08 2019 No.13373590 Classical conditioning through cues in pornography. It's been shown that men can be conditioned to be aroused at the site of a penny jar in controlled studies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:54:15 2019 No.13373594 >>13373590 Studies see here. >>>/sci/10735001

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:56:02 2019 No.13373607 >>13373590 >cues in pornography Imagine watching dudes fuck women to get off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:58:07 2019 No.13373618 If you don't burn with lust for men you aren't gay. Molested and groomed losers are not gay, they are just stupid and insecure larpers.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:00:12 2019 No.13373632

>>13373594
Will the homosexual urge to be fucked by assertive men and be protected by them whenever I'm alone and not distracted or outside and glancing at a masculine guy go away via pavlovian extinction once I start abstaining from porn?
I never felt this way a year ago, I only ever felt aroused and attracted to women in porn and irl and in any media. Usually if I couldn't masturbate for more than a week I would be able to finish to an image of a woman, now I'm not so sure.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:00:40 2019 No.13373634

>>13373582
I'm sorry your condition is bringing you so much distress, anon. You've posted here several times now. My best advice for you is to try and speak to a specialist on the subject. Someone who does counselling specifically for matters regarding one's sexual orientation. I doubt you "went gay" at 20, you likely always were and repressed it or are just in a weird, temporary phase. Regardless, don't stress yourself over it. No use will come of it. That's my advice to you. Best wishes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:01:27 2019 No.13373638 >>13373618 >groomed losers explain to me how this matters

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:04:53 2019 No.13373653 >>13373582 >pic related Do people really do this post-coital?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:07:44 2019 No.13373671 >>13373653 >Do people really do this post-coital? The girl in the OP does with her bf after he watches her fuck other men.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:16:28 2019 No.13373729 >>13373632 abstain and fantasize about women

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:23:56 2019 No.13373768

>>13373729
Isn't this just lying to myself? What if I am genuinely a latent homosexual? Why is it I always fantasized about being an abused girl when I was a child? Why did I always enjoy crossdressing? Why was I gender non conforming as a child? Why did I never get aroused by regular penetrative sex with a girl yet just getting off to all my insecurities through femdom? Why did I still have infatuations with actresses, girls, wet/romantic/erotic dreams only with girls despite all of this?

Why did I only start self inserting as the girl in regular porn when I was 18? This isn't just self inserting as the girl anymore its just homosexuality, isn't it too late now? Was the seed already there? Did this site and getting off to my taboos, being seen as a homosexual by everyone around me at 17, lack of willpower and susceptibility to mental domination i.e. forced bi/gay encouragement/hypnosis/repeat after me/pain & reward conditioning femdom make me gay?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:38:34 2019 No.13373850 I want this to happen to me desperately, ples elaborate. I will never understand women

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:52:47 2019 No.13373930

>>13373768
Anon, it sounds like it's always been there for you. I'm sorry, but it's totally okay. No need to feel shame, at all. It's not your fault. If you think your gay, then explore and embrace it. Plenty of people are, it's not a big deal. If you're something else, research it further and see whether or not you consider it healthy or unhealthy, and needing correction. AGP, for example. This site is not your therapy den, that's for sure. Nobody here will be kind enough to help you. But people in real life will. Try a phone line for sexual orientation issues, I'm sure plenty exist. Try a real counsellor. Etc. Just stop feeling so bad about yourself. I cant help you any further, friend. I'm sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:54:00 2019 No.13373939 >>13373590 Yep it's this, men masturbating to heterosexual pornography where the dominant figure is the cock are obviously training themselves for homosexual arousal. In other words, there really isn't such a thing as straight porn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:18:24 2019 No.13374630 >>13373850 How old are you fren?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:19:15 2019 No.13374634 >>13373582 What does this thread have to do with literature?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:20:12 2019 No.13374639 >>13373939 what if i exclusively masturbate to girls touching themselves

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:36:57 2019 No.13374709 >>13374639 I knew you'd ask this. It's not straight porn if nothing straight happens in it. Touching oneself isn't straight, gays do it too. In other words, no form of pornography denies homosexuality as "true" straight porn would.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:05:42 2019 No.13375061
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>>13373582
>>13373768
gay male here; this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard, and you're probably LARPing. but here's my response anyway:

the fact is, if you don't fantasize about a man wrapping his arms around you, looking you in the eyes, and telling you that he loves you, then you aren't gay. a very important aspect of being gay is HOMOROMANTIC feelings, which means an overwhelming desire to LOVE and BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH a person of the same gender. if you simply want to "fuck a dude", then it's very likely that you might be sexually attracted to men but still be entirely heteroromantic.

if you understood bisexuality, it would make it very easy for you to understand this concept, but this is 4chan so you probably don't understand bisexuality either. there are plenty of bisexual men who are SEXUALLY attracted to men and will fuck them, but will *NEVER* seek men out for *RELATIONSHIPS* (the reverse is also true). we call these bisexual men "heteroromantic". now, bisexuals are obviously not homosexuals by definition. so we have to ask ourselves then, what makes a homosexual? is it just a man who has sex with men? if that were the case, then the bisexual who was heteroromantic and married to a woman would be... a homosexual to you? because he liked to fuck men too once upon a time? this is fucking horseshit, the bisexual clearly has never had any interest in romantic relationships with men.

so the defining feature of THE HOMOSEXUAL MAN is that they want to enter into romantic relationships with men. they aren't just sexually attracted to men here and there, and want to "fuck a dude's ass from time to time" or "let a dude suck my dick from time to time". they want to stare into the eyes of their lover and tell them that they love them. they want to imagine and build a future with them. for a gay man, all of these aspects of love are something they experience only with other men. the idea of this probably DISGUSTS you, which should make it all the more obvious to you that you aren't gay. there's your fucking clue, buddy. if some dude looking into your eyes and professing his love for you sounds disgusting and not something you'd be into, YOU AIN'T GAY NIGGA. and I know 100% that this describes you. I keep talking to clowns like you on 4chan who are just horny and want their dicks sucked but would RECOIL at the mere thought of a real, loving, romantic relationship with another man.

TL;DR: any retard can fuck a man, but it takes a gay man to love a man.

so, you aren't gay, you might have some sexual attraction to men, and basically you could be a bisexual who is heteroromantic. also, how the fuck haven't you figured out your sexuality already? you people are just ridiculous I knew I was gay when I was fucking 12 years old. get serious already, you clowns.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 03:14:05 2019 No.13375618

>>13375061
>>the fact is, if you don't fantasize about a man wrapping his arms around you, looking you in the eyes, and telling you that he loves you, then you aren't gay. a very important aspect of being gay is HOMOROMANTIC feelings, which means an overwhelming desire to LOVE and BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH a person of the same gender.
These are part of the homosexual urges though, just being protected and burying my head in his chest. I had two homosexual dreams where I was a female version of myself
Do you not understand latent homosexuality is a thing? How can someone who is susceptible to this not gradually turn gay over time?
Aren't you a little narrow in what you're saying here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 03:31:09 2019 No.13375668 >>13375061 >TL;DR: any ret*rd can fuck a man, but it takes a gay man to love a man. Heh, ain't that the truth...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 03:32:23 2019 No.13375674 >>13375061 based gay, death to bisexual tourists

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 03:39:37 2019 No.13375705 >>13373582 >>13373590 but also freud

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:04:20 2019 No.13375777 File: 27 KB, 445x374, 1559866061013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13373939 I realized this too late I'm trying to get out

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:07:29 2019 No.13375783 >>13373939 >no heterosexual porn Solo girls and futa, dear fren

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:08:36 2019 No.13375788 File: 33 KB, 308x499, 51ZqnqI0bcL._SX306_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13373582 Unironically this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 07:46:15 2019 No.13376350 >>13375061 Thanks for this response friend

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 07:57:26 2019 No.13376396 >>13373634 Worst advice. Don't listen. You will be convinced you're a tranny.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 08:01:57 2019 No.13376411

>>13373768
>did hypnosis and conditioning change the way I think?
Your mind is a garden bro. What did you think was going to happen? It doesn't matter what was 'latent.' What matters is that you're a man. You should correspond your thoughts to reality, and not try to twist reality to your thoughts. The mind is malleable. The body is not.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 08:10:10 2019 No.13376434

>>13376411
>Your mind is a garden bro. What did you think was going to happen?
It wasn't just porn though was it? What really baffles me is the fact that it took years of constant masturbation and isolation to actually get me to even consider this, before the age of 19 I was 100% certain I was straight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 12:54:34 2019 No.13377547 >>13375061 good post

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 13:06:13 2019 No.13377594 >>13375061 >how the fuck haven't you figured out your sexuality already /thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 15:51:07 2019 No.13378361 >>13375061 Kino

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:16:44 2019 No.13378488 >>13375061 >TL;DR: any retard can fuck a man, but it takes a gay man to love a man. mmmm based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:17:47 2019 No.13378494 >>13375061 gay anon... what is love? is there any diff between platonic and erotic love. I have told my male friends I love them

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:18:40 2019 No.13378502 >>13373582 >>>/fit/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:35:58 2019 No.13378890 >>13375061 false, one can be heteroromantic and homosexual

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:38:59 2019 No.13378911 >>13378890 Agreed, it can also be latent can't it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:33:41 2019 No.13379240 File: 258 KB, 750x391, 1550122683311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13378502 based

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