What is his endgame?

[Anonymous No.13357357]

I know a lot of people treat his texts as merely descriptive, but after watching interviews with him it is clear that he thinks technocapital *ought* to win. What would motivate him to believe this? Misanthropy? A latent death drive? Does he have any loyalty to the human race? If he was a fictional character he would be a shitty villain

[Anonymous No.13357369]

Fast frenz thread less go

[Anonymous No.13357371]

>>13357357
He is clearly so annoyed by people being dumb that he finds pleasure in the idea of humanity going extinct as something more intelligent replaces it. This isn't hyperbole I'm pretty sure this is exactly what is going on in his head.

[cecrops !TdNFjlxVu6 No.13357381]

>>13357357
in one of his essays in fanged noumena he explicitly mentions how capital/ai is a sort of production desire from the future, so in a way he's just trying to be on the right side of history

[Anonymous No.13357390]

>>13357381
close fast fren. but he sees the future fastening back towards us.
a fastening happening and we have to get faster frenz

[Anonymous No.13357399]

I haven't even heard of this guy before but he sounds based af, fuck humanity, it's time has long expired, its time for the singularity to happen and AI lifeforms to explore the stars and violate the laws of physics, going to read his books

[Anonymous No.13357406]

>>13357357
The only villain is non-capital.

[Anonymous No.13357409]

>>13357399
Kek, you must be incredibly new here

[Anonymous No.13357413]

>>13357409
I've seen his face posted here a lot, I just never bothered clicking on a Land thread before

[cecrops !TdNFjlxVu6 No.13357415]

>>13357390

[Anonymous No.13357434]

>>13357399
Welcome fast fren, there's a whole new world just waiting for you here.

Do you need a quick tour?

[Anonymous No.13357442]

>>13357434
Yeah, give me the basic gestalt thought I think I already know because I'm a bit of a transhumanist myself

[Anonymous No.13357457]

>>13357442
Some good links here fren

https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/b3kwta/what_should_i_read_to_understand_accelerationism/

https://jacobitemag.com/2017/05/25/a-quick-and-dirty-introduction-to-accelerationism/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/bk2fl1/a_quick_rundown_on_accelerationism/

[Anonymous No.13357459]

Basically he hates humans. Is literally the reencarnation of Diogenes.

[Anonymous No.13357468]

>>13357459
>literally the reencarnation of Diogenes

Diogenes didn't hate humans, but Timon did.

[Anonymous No.13357501]

>>13357357
I might be getting this wrong, but I think the main imperative to accelerate is that capitalism has an enemy in Moldbug's Cathedral. He often describes the cathedral as being a drain on capitalism's products, putting them to it's own progressive uses instead of investing them in even more capitalism. The cathedral has a cybernetic structure. It forms a positive feedback loop from Cathedral to public consent to public policy back to the Cathedral. So basically you have two runaway processes competing with eachother. One ends in murdery revolutionary leftist singularity and the other presumably in techoncapital singularity. Land want's to reach the capital one first. Usually when we reach the leftist one we burnout eventually, like how in China Mao's cultural revolution eventually gave way to Deng's accelerationism.
The reason for seeking this capital singularity denotes which type of accelerationist you are. The lefties view it as the only way to end capitalism. For a r/acc like Land (unless he considers himself u/acc, IDK) the singularity spawns exit opportunities that offer us a reactionary/libertarian friendly patchwork system as a retreat from the otherwise inescapable Cathedral.
tl;dr I think it's to escape the Cathedral

[Anonymous No.13357507]

>>13357442
Basically, markets are a technology that are cable of extracting resources both natural and human to their own end. Competition on the market selects for intelligence which in turn increases the amount of resources the market can bring into itself. This selection for intelligence is memetic and not genetic, so it isn't bound by physical limits like an animal would be. The rate at which markets "manufacture" intelligence is exponential. Nick land states that markets can almost literally have a "mind of their own" giving birth to the *Capital is Sentient* meme from last Summer. Us humans are on historically on the point of the market intelligence graph where we can see the past enough to realize where the future is going, and might still be able to stop the markets. Land states that the preservation of intelligence is more important risking a way of making humanity and "technocapital" cooexist and failing, so we should remove all obstacles to global capitalism. Or at least that's what this humble construction worker understands about it, others in this thread will probably have a better answer thannmr

[Anonymous No.13357510]

>>13357507
Shit, lots of spelling mistakes, my bad

[Anonymous No.13357612]

>>13357507
>>13357501

[Anonymous No.13357629]

>>13357357
none of it means anything, his work is babbling nonsense.

[Anonymous No.13357655]

>>13357629
Some of his stuff has actual sense. The "technobabble" is basically cyberpunk poetry, but the guy gives some solutions to the early XXI century technological y human condition.

[Anonymous No.13357661]

>>13357655
could you give me some suggestions? the essays i've read of his are hardly coherent.

[Anonymous No.13357677]

>>13357507
Nooo you can't be working class and understand things! FUCKING STOP IT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SPECIAL MY CLASS IS SUPERIOR. AHHHHH

[Anonymous No.13357680]

>>13357629
>gabbidull zo bad id gud
This.

[Anonymous No.13357689]

Can one of you lads help me understand Land's notion of retro-causality, or what seems to be it. How is something assembling itself from the future? Is it just a switch-up on Aristotelian causality peppered with some Kant? Is it necessarily tied back to his old occult CCRU line of thought. Also what about the time loops etc.

[Anonymous No.13357693]

>>13357661
This one is good.

[Anonymous No.13357703]

>>13357689
Yeah. Capital in its end is like an universe consuming AI which determines the present, feeding us into the NeoChina beyond the sun. You are derived intelligence of this future.

[Anonymous No.13357715]

>>13357703
If what you say is true, then its a mere semantic game.

[Anonymous No.13357716]

>>13357661
Which one did you read?

[Anonymous No.13357719]

>>13357715
Nope, it's real and proven already.

[Anonymous No.13357722]

>>13357719
Any sources?

[Anonymous No.13357725]

His endgame was taking large amounts of speed and fucking around on campus during the 90s and 00s. after he moved to china whatever spirit that was possessing him returned to the shadow realm

[Anonymous No.13357729]

>>13357390
>>13357457
>>13357434
>>13357369
bro why do you type like a fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.13357730]

>>13357689
This >>13357703 is correct. We are timelooping into the ISS of the future, it's a determinist ratchet. Your free will is an illusion, even your resistance in this thread only feeds the time machine.

[Anonymous No.13357735]

>>13357722
Fanged Noumena
Teleoplexy

[Anonymous No.13357742]

>>13357729
No enemies here fren this is a place of higher learning. Have any questions you want to share?

[Anonymous No.13357764]

>>13357742
Are there any prominent deccelerationists ?

[Anonymous No.13357772]

>>13357764
Nope, they're all wrong fren.

[Anonymous No.13357784]

>>13357764
Just one.
And you know who he is

[Anonymous No.13357791]

>>13357784
He saw too much, too soon.

[Anonymous No.13357792]

>>13357772
Let me be clear: Accelerationists will be proven wrong. We need to reduce our dependance on technology and capitalism.

I don't have any philosophers to back me up, but if you know of any please let me know.

[Anonymous No.13357796]

>>13357792
you're wrong fren plus you call me an enemy now want me to be a fren
try again fren

[Anonymous No.13357798]

>>13357792
Just one.
And you know who he is

[Anonymous No.13357803]

>>13357730
I'm on board with the notions. >>13357735 and I've read enough of his stuff to get a grip. But the god damn time shit still fucks with me. How is the future real, how are timeloops real, if the teleology of capital acceleration is set, then why is it even necessary to claim the future injects itself into the past, when its just a semantic flip on [over]determinism (somewhat). And like he goes on about cities being time machines, there I can get the semantics having an effect of giving you a novel way of looking at technological acceleration.

[Anonymous No.13357804]

>>13357792
You can be the first.
Throw away your computer and other objects of capital.

[Anonymous No.13357805]

>>13357798
Pynchon?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!/qKRybJPyoB No.13357807]

>>13357784
There are others

[Anonymous No.13357808]

>>13357798
who fren

[Anonymous No.13357825]

>>13357807
Thanks friend.

[Anonymous No.13357826]

This was our last chance and /lit/ failed.

[Anonymous No.13357829]

>>13357357
Because the alternative is being against intelligence maximization and just being a bunch of monkeys then dying

[Anonymous No.13357833]

>>13357826
Never abandon hope bro. Never.

[Anonymous No.13357838]

>>13357829
Based.

[Anonymous No.13357849]

>>13357833
Ok, zizekstak. Still working your way through?

[Anonymous No.13357851]

>>13357829
imagine being God and creating two options and these are them

[Anonymous No.13357855]

>>13357661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp5qeX6hx6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=432g97vs6s0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtATDlUSIxI

[Anonymous No.13357861]

>>13357849
To very live is a battle for survival.

[Anonymous No.13357877]

>>13357861
words are things

[Anonymous No.13357880]

>>13357877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TM0zA2_5UE

[Anonymous No.13357889]

>>13357880
dw

[Anonymous No.13357895]

>>13357889
k

[Anonymous No.13357897]

>>13357851
Let's be honest, monkeys are superior to accelshits who just larp in self-vivisection.
Just fucking do it cunts.

[Anonymous No.13357905]

>>13357399
>never heard of Land
>on /lit/
election tourists are the worst

[Anonymous No.13357908]

>>13357897
problem is you don't get to make everyone else into monkeypeople to enjoy monkeydom with, you'll be like Amish zoo creatures, only persisting in the singularitie's pity

[Anonymous No.13357913]

>>13357803
Contemplate 1985.

[Anonymous No.13357914]

>>13357913
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.13357918]

>>13357905
Landfags are the election tourists, or something far worse.

[Anonymous No.13357920]

>>13357914
Watch Back 2 the Future on quaaludes.
(ironic suggestion, medical warning, etc. don't do this you could die or become an even better writer than Land.)

[Anonymous No.13357922]

>>13357908
>singularitie'
The what?

[Anonymous No.13357924]

>>13357920
Can we discuss the actual ideas though? >>13357803 I'd really like to understand this better.

[Anonymous No.13357926]

>>13357764
Probably this
>Smith is a 54-year-old transgender identified man who dresses like a woman and uses he/him pronouns. The talk at UBC, which some staff and students had loudly denounced, was in collaboration with the Canadian Christian Lobby. During the presentation titled The Erosion of Freedom, Smith argued transgender women are not women because they are “biologically” men. Promotional materials in advance of the event said it was mean to examine “how transgender politics in school and society is undermining our freedom and harming women and children.”
https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/06/23/protesters-detained-at-controversial-ubc-talk-about-sexual-orientation-gender-identity-lessons-in-schools.html

[Anonymous No.13357936]

>>13357924
>>13357680
Don't bother, it's a complete waste of time.
https://youtu.be/Ec7rCsNFn30

[Anonymous No.13357943]

>>13357936
Its not really, even if it was reducible to mere aesthetics, this still has value to me. But the notions about time are presented as actual, and I'd like to see if there is a way I can grasp it and then see if it is nonsense.

[Anonymous No.13358775]

>>13357357
>A latent death drive?
Not in Land himself necessarily, he's just riding the wave of thought that suggests matter itself has a hydraulic tendency towards death/dissipation of energy, and that creativity simply emerges from the wellspring of the universe without any intentionality behind it. Land takes the ideas of freud and anti-oedipus and runs with it to the largest cosmic scale possible, that biological life is just a stage of or process towards death.

The real question is whether or not he's playing up his villainy in order to present himself as the "final boss" of capitalism such that leftists have a clear and urgent enemy to rally against. He could be the most brilliant double/sleeper agent the world has ever seen, a neolemurian guerilla who somehow managed to infiltrate the highest levels of the eschaton in order to destabilise it. Only time will tell

[Anonymous No.13358783]

>>13357803
Everything will all make sense when Death Stranding is finally released. I'm totally convinced now that its the videogame mentioned on the CCRU website that has allegedly incorporated its ideas into the virtual architecture of the game

[Anonymous No.13358821]

>>13357784
>ted
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.13358846]

>>13358821
Oh, wow, an intelligent male is autogynephilic? I'm shocked

[Anonymous No.13358857]

A lot of detailed discussion about our lord and lodestar Nick Land going on here.
I found a new article about some journalist who tried to wrap his head around Nick Land. It can serve as a good first introduction about Nick Land.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/oYm9L95LQXrEwNEZY/accelerate-without-humanity-summary-of-nick-land-s

[Anonymous No.13359078]

>>13358775
Basically humans are cells for an IA. The intelligentsia is going to create, the oligarchs are going to enjoy it and the working is going to be jelly we are going to be defecated using qlipoth as filter and "anti-virus" The only thing that make sense in this hypothetical scenario is going full sheep passivity because Christ is going back to end this human system or creating an open source intelligence.

[Anonymous No.13359112]

>>13357501
I don't see a very large divide between the cathedral (more like The Synagogue amiright?) and Capitalism. They go hand in hand. I would even argue that the point of the cathedral is lucifiarian transhumanism as well. If they're not exactly the same they at least have the same goals.

[Anonymous No.13359241]

>>13357792
>>13357805
>>13357808
ted kaczynski but unironically

[Anonymous No.13359264]

>>13357936
based

[Anonymous No.13359296]

>>13358846
Who is saying these things? What's their agenda? I isn't in the first person so not Ted. This is after the fact counter propaganda to diffuse his ideas

[Anonymous No.13359316]

>>13358775

[Anonymous No.13359412]

is Moldbug's ideas of The Cathedral the western liberalism imposed as a religion in the free world?

[Anonymous No.13359425]

>>13359412
Is this "spiritual experience" in The Cathedral?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ug2DOoxJ1g

[Anonymous No.13359451]

>>13357357
>What is his endgame?

a perma thread on a weeb image posting site

[Anonymous No.13359465]

>>13359412
That's a small part of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhLPzKonBBA

[Anonymous No.13359512]

>>13357803
You might want to watch this if you haven't already-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp5qeX6hx6Q
(what is accelerating? nick land interview 1997)

In it he talks a bit about 'the future reaching into the past' and what he means by that.

[Anonymous No.13359518]

>>13359412
No, it's a leftist idea given a hip cryptozio name.

[Anonymous No.13359521]

>>13357501
Is capital inherently reactionary?

[Anonymous No.13359544]

Anime could have been real life if based Hitler had won, but no

[Anonymous No.13359553]

>>13359544

[Anonymous No.13359559]

>>13359521
Yeah its super trad fren

The matrix spawns all trads which survive the near-future, and thus frens respawn in intelligence

[Anonymous No.13359564]

>>13359518
You'll have to explain what you mean by leftist because the cathedral creates the false dichotomy between right and left in politics to play both sides

[Anonymous No.13359580]

>>13358775

[Anonymous No.13359588]

>>13359412
Not necessarily imposed as such but it works the same way.

[Anonymous No.13359604]

>>13357357
He is either a right winger who's deceiving leftists into accepting the free market or a total communist. That's literally all there is to him.

[Anonymous No.13359641]

>>13359564
>heh the Cathedral wins no matter what
>so I guess you lose heh
>not us though

[Anonymous No.13359650]

>>13359604
He hasn't claimed to be left wing in decades.

[Anonymous No.13359651]

>>13359564
And why is called The Cathedral? It looks literally like an octopus using camouflage or that creature in the movie Annhilation.

Warning: It is the last part of the movie. So if you want to watch it, don't watch this video.

https://youtu.be/FdeD_-d0M28

[Anonymous No.13359652]

So now that OP's request has been fulfilled, lets talk about why we love Nick Land.
I think that Nick Land is the only philosopher for people who, like me, are a radical misanthropist. Nick Land wants to eradicate humanity, and so do I. 95 % of people I've come to meet online or from the media or real life are either absolutes assholes and I get the urge to physicall hurt them, or they are vapid, uninteresting degenerates. Even on /lit/ I'd likely hate most people.
Who gives me the moral and philosophical permission to have this thoughts which would be considered "evil" in christianity? None better than Nick Land.

[Anonymous No.13359696]

>>13359652
You might also enjoy-

Thacker
Ligotti
Schopenhauer
Cioran
Nyx

[Anonymous No.13359697]

>>13359651
spooky.

We're you asking why it's called the cathedral or we're you saying that it is because of the camouflage effect?

[Anonymous No.13359704]

>>13359697
>We're you asking why it's called the cathedral
Yes, I'm asking why they call it The Cathedral.

[Anonymous No.13359714]

>>13359652
>Nick Land wants to eradicate humanity, and so do I. 95 % of people I've come to meet online or from the media or real life are either absolutes assholes and I get the urge to physical hurt them, or they are vapid, uninteresting degenerates.
>Who gives me the moral and philosophical permission to have this thoughts which would be considered "evil" in christianity?
I don't want to just post a picture of a fedora atheist, because that would leave out the sheer magnitude of teenage angst in this post. In fact as I type this I think I'm just getting baited with a copypasta. If it is real, I'm not even going to call you dumb, because it's a phase most people go through. The first time I read Dostovesky's crime and punishment I thought everything the protag did was just and moral too. It was only after years more of life experience that I understood what Dostovesky was trying to convey. Your life will get better, and your step dad will eventually let you play fortnite again. It's just a part of life.

[Anonymous No.13359727]

>>13359704
On the base level it's because its our 20th century church. It sets the mainstream "religion"

[Anonymous No.13359741]

The parallels between Land and the Marquis de Sade are numerous. Sade, like most of his contemporaries, believed that the world was governed by a providential order. Unlike his contemporaries, he believed that this Providence was ordered towards evil, rather than good. Wickedness and depravity are rewarded, while goodness is punished and destroyed. Land’s Philosophy is similar; he explicitly states his belief that everything that succeeds is born in hell.
This belief of Sade’s is completely defined within Christian categories of thought (Good and evil, Providential order, etc). The same goes for Land, who has constructed a sadistic version of techno-Calvinism. It may oppose certain doctrines of Christianity, but it’s mechanisms for meaning are inescapably defined by that religion.

[Anonymous No.13359742]

>>13359652
Nick Land's quasi-ironic misanthropy is one of the only two ways of genuine rebellion against modern society. The other one will likely get you droned while running with an AK-47 in a Middle Eastern desert.

[Anonymous No.13359762]

>>13357693
This looks extremely cringe and tryhard, or perhaps it's merely the product of drug-induced delirium. In both case I'd give it a eh.

[Anonymous No.13359766]

>>13359696

dumb
dumb
okay
dumb
dumb

[Anonymous No.13359772]

>>13359714
Why so hostile fren this is a positive learning enviro for all frenz

[Anonymous No.13359778]

>>13359742
>dood just rebel against society by accepting it lmao

[Anonymous No.13359785]

>>13359772
frenz dont want to kill all other frenz. frenz take care of tribe, even if frenz is npc

[Anonymous No.13359798]

>>13359652
I like Nick Land because I would like for us to dispense with this dumb façade that the white oligarchy and intelligentsia abandoning the bottom 90% of their co-ethnics to get blacked into an undifferentiated creatura sludge before being fed as raw material into an Amazon blast furnace is anything like "moral" or "enlightened" or "principled", rather than just being the ultimate expression of capital and technology rendering complete cynical sociopathy the most adaptive ideology / behavior profile. Rather than it being "the end of history" because liberal democracy has achieved some kind of synthesis of morality and technocracy, it's "the end of history" because morality is no longer needed to "technocratically" preserve and extend the existing system; in this sense we've entered a post-human era and the fact our elite are unselfconsciously evil lunatics loses its importance. So rather than agonizing about that (nevermind the insultingly ridiculous suggestion that "one race the human race :)" global Brazil "technocracy" is actually humanist and well-intentioned), let's just think about the cybernetic implications of where this is leading us

[Anonymous No.13359829]

>>13357689
>Also what about the time loops etc.

Time is a spiral. New beginnings contain both past and future.

[Anonymous No.13359834]

>>13359829
so it's basically Buddhism

[Anonymous No.13359841]

>>13359798
"the obsolescence of morality"

great post

[Anonymous No.13359851]

>>13357803
>And like he goes on about cities being time machines, there I can get the semantics having an effect of giving you a novel way of looking at technological acceleration.

I think you're missing the entropy angle. Civilization reverse entropy--the universal tendency toward chaos and decay. Effective cities are concentrating civilization creating bubbles of extropy. The future becomes the past.

[Anonymous No.13359856]

>>13359829
that still doesn't explain anything

[Anonymous No.13359875]

>>13359851
But in reversing entropy, they accelerate it, the even distribution of energy, is Land's point.

[Anonymous No.13359891]

>>13359798
But this is precisely what Land wants.

[Anonymous No.13359894]

>>13359856

Read more Land

>Neomodernity is at once more modernity, and modernity again. By synthesizing (accelerating) progressive change with cyclic recurrence, it produces a distinctive schema or figure: the time spiral. But that is to get a little beyond ourselves…

[Anonymous No.13359901]

>>13359856
It's just pseudery determined by future autism.

[Anonymous No.13359980]

>>13359894
Accelerationists can't parse ideas, metaphors, and reality, and this is related to their inability to even comprehend memes. Collective weaponised autism.

[Anonymous No.13360025]

It seems that the largest framework of dialectical conflict that emerges in the modern fringe political/ideological circles is the one of accelerating technocapital and deterritorialized Luciferan transhumanism versus counter-capitalist eudaimonic decceleration based in redemption, and often characterized by a return to pro-nature/ecological state of being (often anti-futuristic, but not necessarily) and creation of an associated Platonic-Helegian complex (be it Vedic neopaganism, Christian Distributism, or even some form of Venus project ecotopia).

The working class, we, the people, HAVE NO CHOICE ABOUT CAPITALISM. WE ARE THE GODDAMN PEASANTS OF THE PAST WE LAUGH AT. We already live in The Dark Enlightenment, with the modbugs Cathedral in the West crowning the oligarchs.

The technological process cannot be stopped by democracy, it disappeared at some point after the Second World War. The only solution I SEE is to turn the diagram unnaturally a "xeno grey hat cracking" if you wish, in the most ethereal sense of the concept.

Democracy can and must be exercised through the market.

[Anonymous No.13360037]

>>13359798
>Europe is the racial trash-can of Asia, and Britain skims-off Europe’s charred froth. My ancestors were vagrants, whores, and killers. Minds melted by toadstools, they exulted in the ashes of monasteries, the base-line of the human animal, slimed across the sea-rocks of the North. ‘It is quite evident to me that I have always been of an inferior race. I am not able to comprehend revolt. My race does not ever stir itself except for pillage: like wolves at the beast they have not killed’ [R 302]. With so much ash in the blood, I never had a chance of peace…so many years gnawing and scratching at the metal bars until I collapsed with exhaustion and disgust. Its hard to understand those graceful creatures who seem to have escaped from being knifed into inarticulate wreckage by life. Dissatisfaction white-extreme as a heated blade twisted into blank vulnerabilities crosscut with ink droolings and clotting pain into absurdity. I have long understood the necessity of counting myself amongst the accursed, even before crossing over the line. I see now that my terrestrial ur-mother was ravished by something fanged and insane from the wilderness, and that I am a vampire veiled raggedly in humanity, corrupted from birth by an unholy intimacy with death. The fever that bears me overstretches the entire health of the Earth, carrying me with my accursed twin into an emptiness beyond the reservoir of stars. Although the adventure of inexistence only begins in Hell there is no fear, only awe and burning werewolf thirst for the voyage. Nestled in some cove of this ulterior shore an utterly consummate eroticism—a pact against nature—tenses through fusion to its evaporation, denuded before the abyss; a glistening droplet of loss and beginning.

[Anonymous No.13360089]

>>13360037
The eternal anglo lmao

[Anonymous No.13360118]

>>13360025
Democracy was a scam to begin with. It's the best way for oligarchs to stay in control and now they are even hidden behind puppets and international corporations. The media complex is 100x more powerful at shaping the mental landscape than politicians. Even if that has been slightly disrupted by the internet, but they won't let free thought go for long as we are seeing.

[Anonymous No.13360124]

>>13360037
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.13360242]

>>13360124
Only SinoAmazonians can save us.

[Anonymous No.13360302]

AESTHETICS

[Anonymous No.13360320]

>>13360037
This is flirting dangerously close with the abyss of standard teenage angst.
Or maybe Land is just secretly a bad writer.

[Anonymous No.13360340]

>>13357792
>>13359241
>ted was right!
>he types into his computer and submits to the online forum known as 4chabbel
Why are tedfags always such massive hypocrites?

[Anonymous No.13360353]

>>13360037
calm the fuck down Lovecraft

[Anonymous No.13360393]

>>13360320
>Or maybe Land is just secretly a bad writer.
>implying any philosophy written after husserl was good

[Anonymous No.13360407]

>>13360340
>still hasn't KHS
Why are accelnigs?

[Anonymous No.13360423]

>>13360393
I'm not sure, a few French philosophers and perhas even some analytics are pretty readable.
Also it turns out Husserl was kinda overrated.

[Anonymous No.13360449]

>>13360423
>Also it turns out Husserl was kinda overrated.

He's no Heidegger that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.13360512]

>>13360302
Nick Land has a geopolitical fetish? It's something I haven't seen since anon underwent an initiation ritual with a group of hunters and entered into communion with the state of Ohio.

[Anonymous No.13360526]

>>13360512

His interests are more wide-ranging than people realize.

[Anonymous No.13360586]

>>13360526
Maybe it's virtually undetectable because of all the cyberpunk poetry in his works merged with the essays. Which I respect. But someone should classify his lyrical work from his political ones.

[Anonymous No.13361176]

>>13359714
The part you replied to was copy pasted from me but I am the original poster who wrote this. 29 years and I am not a videogamer. No bait, just my real thoughts. My social and emotional intelligence is likely higher than yours, I work with many differnt people on a daily basis on my job. I do find many good people there & even more from the large group of stupid people, out of which a small portion makes no secret out of the fact that they would like to make you kill yourself.
My workplace is filled with grade A people only, but I guess I'm not the only one hearing abhorrent stories from relatives who participate in real life, stories from work or private life, where again the stupidity of the large part of humanity is presented to you.
I want these people to burn. Who can blame me for liking Nick Land?

Just finished watching this lecture about how society will collapse soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPB2u8EzL8
Land's dream will become true soon, mabye even during his lifetime. I am awaiting it in joyful anticipation. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.13361206]

>>13361176
>My social and emotional intelligence is likely higher than yours
Now THIS is epic.

[Anonymous No.13361250]

>>13360037
>Europe is the racial trash-can of Asia
This I already don't understand. With Land you really need an in between explaination for every sentence.

[Anonymous No.13361273]

Metaphysics was not destroyed, but transformed and uplifted by the increasing amount of knowledge. Like I said, you're unable to appreciate the aesthetics of the knowledge, so you're criticizing it based on "soullessness", when it is actually the most enriching and complicated poetry to grasp.

[Anonymous No.13361328]

>>13361250

Land is using poetic hyperbole to suggest that the preponderance of 'Asian' immigrants is of a lesser quality. On the whole, they don't represent the "cream of the crop."

[Anonymous No.13361340]

>>13361328
Fake and gay copefag.

[Anonymous No.13361348]

>>13361328
I unironically want sino amazonian futanaris. Neochine hurry up.

[Anonymous No.13361362]

>>13361176
>How to enjoy the end of the world

SAVE THE WORLD OVERWRITING DEMOCRACY CHOICES OVER THE MARKET FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

[Anonymous No.13361433]

>>13359559
literally a horrible redditfag shitting up our board because a babytalk board got #cancelled for retard-tier racism. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.13361434]

>>13361348

Soon

[Anonymous No.13361490]

>>13361434
Based Republic of Ireland.

[Anonymous No.13361572]

>>13361176
>My social and emotional intelligence is likely higher than yours
>I want these people to burn.
>I've seen every episode of rick and morty SEVEN times
>I am enlightened by my own intelligence not some phony god's blessing

L M A O. I have to double down on my original assessment of cringe. Even if you are a late bloomer at 29, you will grow out of it eventually.

[Anonymous No.13362117]

>>13361176
These are the people spamming the board day and night with cyberjoycean brrrrraapppemenons.

[Anonymous No.13362471]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13362559]

bump

[Anonymous No.13362595]

>>13359714
I hope this becomes a new copy pasta. Put me in the screencap

[Anonymous No.13362634]

[Anonymous No.13362739]

>>13359412
That would be universalism, Cathedral is a meta institution consisting mainly of the media and academia
>>13359521
Kinda... Reactionaries are all about social order and keeping promises/contracts. It seems capitalism helped dismantle reactionary institutions, but maybe it can help create new ones. Libertarian and Reactionary thinkers are quite similar in many respects, Moldbug and I became reactionaries starting with Hoppe's Democracy: the god that failed. Some reactionaries are more critical of it, Ralph Adams Cram, an American Jacobite for example admired the medieval guild system and advocated in his book "Walled Towns" for a sort of communally owned system of production, kinda like medievalist phalanasteries. So it's a complicated relationship.
>>13361176
Why do you hate humanity? We are dumb animals that created an environment we aren't adapted to live in but that's pretty cool imo. So what if people aren't rational

[Anonymous No.13362947]

>>13357357
Nihillism

[Anonymous No.13362996]

>>13357689
Read Hegel instead

[Anonymous No.13363093]

>>13357381
>>13358775

this isnt really true anymore. in recent talks he's explicitly expressed an active stance on the side of "intelligence" (capital) and believes human beings can actually stop it. which makes no sense to me at all. the whole point of capital-ai intelligence worship is that its a 4d god we're all already a part of.if human beings can actually stop it than what even is the point.

[Anonymous No.13363112]

>>13357689
time doesnt really happen the way we perceive it to. the past and future and present all actually leak into each other all the time. an ai god in the far future could hypothetically have the means to play at this scale and indeed be existence itself

[Anonymous No.13363117]

Nick Land is Kefka.

[Anonymous No.13363246]

>>13357371
>tfw Nick is the physical embodiment of a Mindless Self Indulgence song

[Anonymous No.13363297]

He contacted the outside and came up with a philosophy that is basically HP lovecraft tier where you accelerate the process of techno capital so that the AI/cuthulu can come and kill us all.

I used to be into him until the schizo poster made me realize that there are other beings besides death who live outside time and space

[Anonymous No.13363567]

>>13363297
>I used to be into him until the schizo poster made me realize that there are other beings besides death who live outside time and space
Based.

[Anonymous No.13363663]

>>13363297
So it's basically War and Peace?

[Anonymous No.13363682]

>>13359112
the current western cathedral is clearly humanist and its endgame is an increase in quality of life for everybody (not just the west).

[Anonymous No.13363718]

Was accelerating the process part of his plan?

https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1143741073472118784?s=19

[Anonymous No.13363725]

>>13363718
Lmao.

[Anonymous No.13363735]

>>13363718
1. Baizuo The creme of the crop. The oligarchs going to Mars.

2. Valuable people Deist working class and the the martyred dispossessed

3. Baizuo bioweaponery Literally hellspawns

[Anonymous No.13363744]

>... Inhuman capital is okay with deep space, but for meat-units the Antarctic would be more hospitable. Better, in regards to political practicality, would be the sea-bed. ...

Maybe the "space race" is make antartica habitable again?

[Anonymous No.13363748]

>>13363682
Obvious trolling...

[Anonymous No.13363851]

>>13357829
I'd literally rather remain a monkey than have anything to do with any of this shit.

[Anonymous No.13363879]

>>13363851
then die.

[Anonymous No.13364136]

>>13359727
>>13359704
capitalism is protestant

[Anonymous No.13364998]

>>13363718
Accelerationists really cannot fucking meme.

[Anonymous No.13365023]

>>13363879
we're going to die either way. The AI robots are not going to need us for anything

[Anonymous No.13365048]

>>13357457
>reddit
>reddit
>reddit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHA

[Anonymous No.13365103]

>>13365048
Whats the probm fren? Reddit is one of the best places to discuss acc and nrx ideas.

[Anonymous No.13365253]

Hey fren what u think of this sweet NeoChina flag?

[Anonymous No.13365271]

>>13365023
This is pretty spoopy fren. Some of us jus want capital as fren.

[Anonymous No.13365461]

>>13363735
>tfw Baizuo is the name of The Cathedral in the chinese narrative.

Mother of god.

[Anonymous No.13365476]

>>13365461
Spoopy isn't it fren

But NeoChina fren care for us.

[Anonymous No.13365485]

>>13365476
>t. chinese shill android.

[Anonymous No.13365513]

when did this board go from pro-accelerationism, with generals, to mocking it? is it really that you litbros start to seethe once reddit embraces your ideas?

[Anonymous No.13365547]

>>13365513
Acc was always rdt retard.

[Anonymous No.13365552]

>>13365547
Dont make me mad fren.

[Anonymous No.13365570]

>>13365513
I think it's primarily two factors.
One, trans people's close relation to accelerationism became more apparent (which made the autismo's here sperg even harder than usual), and the theories, which were at one time niche and obscure, have been discussed here at length on a regular basis - so most people who would care about it are already somewhat versed in the ideas and no longer have the novelty-effect of learning some new spooky philosophy, and the people that don't care just see 'cabidul is sentint, and also a woman-becoming' or something along those lines and don't progress the discourse beyond that point.

I like it though. It's pretty much why I still come to /lit/.

[Anonymous No.13365576]

>>13365513
We are exploring the alternatives of capitalism and the possible outcome of keeping the same model.

[Anonymous No.13365656]

>>13365570
This fast frens

We still dem bois do

[Anonymous No.13365684]

>>13363682
Master-Baiter

[Anonymous No.13365706]

>>13365684
The Cathedral manufactures intelligence.

[Anonymous No.13365792]

In all honesty, when it comes to the analysis of the character based solely on his theories you will run into issues, because representation and desire cannot simply be seperated from each other. Its a tangled mess. Like the belief in salvation-through-blood seen in Catholicism. Do they believe it because they see it being the case or because they are just vampires? We may detect correspondences (a Marxist probably will not support the Bourgeoisie without any hidden motive) but I do not think that we can posit a causality.

[Anonymous No.13365812]

>>13365792
Really don't think this applies to Land. The opinions he shares on Twitter, both political and boomerish, are very different from his philosophical writings. His character and ideas seem much more detached than one might think from a cursory examination

[Anonymous No.13365855]

>>13357703
Look at that wrist! Hahahahhaa

[Anonymous No.13365893]

>>13365812
>The opinions he shares on Twitter, both political and boomerish, are very different from his philosophical writings.

You do a disservice to Land by compartmentalizing his thought.

[Anonymous No.13365953]

>>13358783
>I'm totally convinced now that its the videogame mentioned on the CCRU website that has allegedly incorporated its ideas into the virtual architecture of the game
EXPLAIN

[Anonymous No.13365979]

>>13365855
This is the future. EM Forster warned us, but Land elevates the Auschwitz aesthetic into a poetry of capital's becoming.
There is no fascist brutality if it is voluntary.

[Anonymous No.13366022]

>>13365855
>>13365979
There is no stopping us.

g/acc

[Anonymous No.13366058]

>>13365513
Nothing survives the meme-future. It's teleoplexy, bro, accept it.
>>13357826
This

[Anonymous No.13366074]

>>13365513

Girardfag stopped posting.

[Anonymous No.13366090]

>>13366058
>GRUG WORSHIP THE WHEEL GOD
Home assignment: Translate Fanged Noumena from Pseud into Grug, with grug-neologisms and all.

[Anonymous No.13366094]

>>13365893

>You do a disservice to Land by compartmentalizing his thought.

Not that anon, but Land *himself* compartmentalized his thought.

[Nick Land No.13366102]

>>13365979
is that a (boy)
>>13365953
Kojima seems like he is one of the few people who actually knows what is *really* going on

[Anonymous No.13366110]

>>13366090

Story go: New sun tribe come from tomorrow, wheel tribe become wheel.

[Anonymous No.13366116]

>>13366022
This meme was made by the g/acc gang. Gamers rise up. Blah blah blah.

[Anonymous No.13366122]

>>13366102
Death Stranding will be what Elden Ring to Fantasy and Cyberpunk 2077 to the entire genre of cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.13366132]

>>13366122
It will be the exemplar of which genre exactly?

[Anonymous No.13366133]

>>13365513
These threads are visited by reactionaries zoomers.

[Anonymous No.13366134]

>>13357357

[Anonymous No.13366149]

>>13366134
truly the primary conflict of the 21st century

[Anonymous No.13366160]

>>13366116
Yikes

[Anonymous No.13366183]

>>13366132
There is no genre. Not yet. That's why Kojima calls it a "strand game". No evolution is made without sacrifices and pain. The player has two options, and maybe is the perfect example of the capitalist model,

>Do you want to die and stop the process in order to conserve a perfect work of art canon? Or do you want to sacrifice something valuable in order to keep going?

Anger is a useful and powerful tool. Gets shit done. /tg/ and /v/ knows this, so all you niggas start diversifying your tastes, or all the reflection we've done will turn into another echo chamber.

Basically, spend a season on another board. If you want to play in hard mode, move on to another board you've never visited. Imageboards are the Tabletop game for the first half of the XXI century. Learn the rules or go crazy or die.

As-Salaam-Alaikum.

[Anonymous No.13366205]

>>13366183
That's interesting. Sometimes I completely forget that diversity of boards on this site

[Anonymous No.13366237]

>>13366134
REALLY

CANNOT

FUCKING

MEME

[Anonymous No.13366248]

>>13366134
I like this one. You cannot beat the promises of gynoids for an entire misplaced generation.

[Anonymous No.13366273]

>>13366094

It's still more rewarding to find connections between his ideas regardless of how, when, or where he expressed them.

[Anonymous No.13366295]

>>13366273
Exactly this fren

Like a 10,000 piece puzzle

Best philosophy and fastest too

[Anonymous No.13366356]

>>13366295
For you fren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6UG1Jlwiow

[Anonymous No.13366373]

>>13365953
Death Stranding would be touching, at least in aesthetics and game mechanics, themes that CCRU apparently projected in his writings during the nineties.

Reminder that cyberpunk was born in Japan.

[Anonymous No.13366443]

>>13366373
>CCRU
>his

[Anonymous No.13366454]

I never paid attention to his mouth before and now I can only view this picture while obscuring it with my thumb

[Anonymous No.13366461]

>>13366183
Oh, are you talking about the part which the player never actually dies or something? Will keep my eyes on the game as soon as it comes out, /v/ memes that bled out to other boards kept parroting that Kojima is a hack but based on what you're saying, it implies otherwise.

[Anonymous No.13366475]

>>13366461
Kojima's essential problem is that he can't write, in the same way acc cannot meme. Kojima's real cup of tea is to make innovative game mechanics. It's one of the reasons why MGSV is a burning garbage trash can and at the same time it's the game with best stealth mechanics to date.

[Anonymous No.13366519]

>>13366475
Anyway what's your take on Death Stranding's game mechanics that have relevancy to the post you've made earlier?

[Anonymous No.13366540]

>>13366519
Basically? Capitalism has no solution and we are all going to die.

[Anonymous No.13366560]

>>13366454

[Anonymous No.13366689]

>>13364998
>this faggot wasn't around for RhettTwitter
baka read Necrophysics

[Anonymous No.13366734]

>>13366689
Just post the memes, rdt.

[Anonymous No.13366750]

Posting this again because it's been a while since I've seen it.

[Anonymous No.13366798]

>>13366750

[Anonymous No.13366801]

bumpin for fast frenz

you're welcome for the speed boost guys

[Anonymous No.13366821]

>>13366798

[Anonymous No.13366831]

>>13362634
Based and blessed.

[Anonymous No.13366849]

>low iq shills use pepe as bait for data collecting
i sure hope you are oldfags pretending to be newfags. why dont you read his blog and books? thats the reason why people write so you can read what they think. youre about 5 years late if you want in on the wave and the next one is postponed because of retards like you.

[Anonymous No.13366879]

[Anonymous No.13366882]

>>13366849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq84csBuEgg

[Anonymous No.13366914]

>>13365513
I can tell you from my own experience, and I'm more well read than most, that these ideas are not easy. lit is a strange place and while it promotes education it very rarely engages in any high thought. Even worse are the low intelligence ones who spam the boards and false flag.

The thing with Land is that his ideas are incredibly rewarding once you get past the initial barrier. But I don't think that many people are willing to put in the effort, they want low skill floor readings, but this also means there will be a low skill ceiling as well.

Unfortunate because Land's intelligence is without equal in modern times. He's taken all of the best philosophers and refined only the most useful ideas into a cybernetic system of social escape into the future.

I hate to dumb it down for the idiots who refuse to read, but we may have to gather more introductory materials and distribute them between threads.

[Anonymous No.13366927]

>>13366879
Cringe

[Anonymous No.13366933]

>>13366849
>why dont you read his blog and books
Because they're shit >>13357693

[Anonymous No.13366979]

>>13365513
>heh, let's just combine all of the worst elements of communism and capitalism and spew cyberhipster platitudes to make it appeal to the most gullible

[Anonymous No.13367374]

>>13359778
>dude just stop technology, it's not like you'll be at the mercy of anyone who embraces tech.
also, subjectivity wasn't reintroduced through capital, it was the realization of the limits of our perception and how often we as humans fail to see what's going on.

[Anonymous No.13367438]

>>13367374
Don't know what you're talking about.
And, don't know what you're talking about. Nice job.

[Anonymous No.13367954]

strangely potent bitterness to anti-accelfag posting...

[Anonymous No.13367966]

Desire less.

[Anonymous No.13367979]

>>13367954
We are winning.

The most powerful movement since 1968.

[Anonymous No.13368790]

>>13366443
hi nyx

[Anonymous No.13369487]

>>13368790
Is this actually Nyx?

[Anonymous No.13369500]

>>13366927
m-morty the blockchain is sentient *burp* the singularity

[Anonymous No.13369945]

>>13369487
no, it's bladee

[Anonymous No.13369963]

*twiddles spork* ....the gender euphoria. ..

[Anonymous No.13370002]

>>13359521
No, not at all. Progressivism is capitalistic.
Organized religion, seeing all men as equal and proliferation of slave morality utilized labor of genetically inferior men, creating more complex societies that killed the barbarians who employed master morality. Progressivism decreases genetic order but only because capital then allows it and then provides order memetically. Increasing entropy is capitalistic. Reactionary views are reacting against capital.
I could write a lot more but I don't know how much convincing people really need/if I really care anymore.

[Anonymous No.13370080]

>>13357693
p e e e n n n i i i i s s s o s e s

[Anonymous No.13370160]

>>13366914
Start

[Anonymous No.13370190]

Does anyone actually think he isnt just a communist?

[Anonymous No.13370543]

>>13357764
Hitler

[Anonymous No.13370551]

>>13363093
He's worried we're going to cause the 0.3% chance of global destruction that will prevent the singularity.

[Anonymous No.13370935]

Fast morning to you frenz

[Anonymous No.13370971]

>>13370935
Good morning /accel/gang.
Everyone ready to go fast today?

[Anonymous No.13371425]

>>13370551
a god that stands any chance at all of being defied by human beings isnt a god.

[Anonymous No.13371436]

>>13357764
most of the "new" right and old left to an extent. trump, bannon, bernie sanders, green party, etc.

the boring old centrists are ironically enough for reasons they are completely unaware of and totally opposed to are the most effective accelerationist force.

[Anonymous No.13371454]

>>13371436
centrists are sort of aware of that, there is a logic to their position of the type 'let's not change things too drastically, but some improvements and revisions are necessary, so that the entire thing keeps pushing forward'. It's a pragmatic approach that isn't good at looking at long term trends but is good at keeping a relative amount of stability that doesn't allow very negative outcomes in the near future.

[Anonymous No.13371807]

>>13370935
>>13370971

[Anonymous No.13372093]

Time to leave orbit behind frenz

[Anonymous No.13373601]

bump

[Anonymous No.13373624]

if nick land is good then why is old and ugly now?

[Anonymous No.13373639]

>>13373624
I only read cute nicc

[Anonymous No.13373670]

Because he's literally a libertarian you dumb retards. A boomer ancap. His true beliefs are just buried under all the edge.

[Anonymous No.13374108]

[Anonymous No.13374378]

i want to be fucked by nick land so badly lmao
do you think he's into slapping people?

[Anonymous No.13374418]

>>13374378
ask him on twitter

[Anonymous No.13374461]

>>13373624
He really needs to take the buzz pill

[Anonymous No.13374674]

>>13374418
@?

[Anonymous No.13374686]

>>13374674
@outsideness

[Anonymous No.13375374]

GGUGUGGGUGGUUGGUGGGUGGUBBIDUL ID GGUAAAOD
NNUNUNUNEEEEYOOO CHIIIINUH UHUHUHURIBE

[Anonymous No.13375490]

>>13375374
>why yes, I do employ many a neologism, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.13376647]

https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1136700250578493440

Quick, post some question for Nick Land there. He will answer it in some podcast next month.

[Anonymous No.13376789]

>>13365953
The mechanic of time fall accelerates the passage of time for everything it touches, right? And you have this strange anachronistic setting that seems to encompass both a near future and a WWII-type setting. My guess is the reason for this is that the timefall rapidly thrusts certain locations into the future and all the technological advances that comes with it, while everywhere left untouched has to go the slow route. So right there you have the basic Landian idea that cities are time machines, that they accelerate into the future at a much higher rate than anywhere else. Also the whole stuff about baby clones replacing you as you wither away and die is straight up artificial time production.

[Anonymous No.13377161]

Fuck niggers and fuck jannies.

[Anonymous No.13377664]

>>13375490
KNEE YOH LAH JIZZUM
UH RIVE FRUM
GUH
BIH
DULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Anonymous No.13377733]

Is there any sort of overlap between futurism and any of the /acc branches? I was reading Zang Tumb Tumb recently and a lot of it felt eerily similar to Meltdown in a way I can't quite describe.

[Anonymous No.13377775]

>>13377733
Some version in english or spanish?

[Anonymous No.13377819]

>>13359512
what is this nigger editing

[Anonymous No.13377828]

>>13359512
A least he is hard on meth, that interview is NOT from 1997.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMdPLxbuc8Q

[Anonymous No.13377894]

>>13377664
lol

[Anonymous No.13378596]

Did you guys happen to know that capital is sentient?

[Anonymous No.13378647]

>>13378596
Can you elaborate? Is just a meme to this day and age.

[Anonymous No.13379017]

>>13378647
im not him, but you can also think of it as a computational process running on the substrate of human society/cities (even without the sentience part)

[Anonymous No.13380183]

>>13370971
>shadman

[Anonymous No.13380202]

>>13357357
At this point he just wants to be acknowledged for his conceptions and contraceptives, and to move to the east coast of Canada after capitulating to some basic facts about lobsters and the nature of technology.