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Is this chart a good way to get into philosophy?

>> No.13339653

>>13339648
Honestly fuck the charts. Start with the five dialogues then explore Plato then move onto Aristotle. No need to fuck around with the other cucks

>> No.13339705

>>13339648
No, it's not. Start with John Rawls and work your way up to Wittgenstein.

>> No.13339714

>>13339705
what a brainlet advice

>> No.13339717 [DELETED] 

>>13339648
no, that chart is actually terrible

>> No.13339750 [DELETED] 

>>13339653
ya familiarize yourself with plato and aristotle, you can ignore aristotle's works on physics, politics, rhetoric and poetics if you're not into that. Afterwards you can move onto the neoplatonists (proclus & damascius) or the scholastics which are just platonism and aristotleanism more flesh out, until the dawn of modern philosophy that shifts away from the paradigm of classical theism. If you really want a shortcut to modern philosophy just read Feser's 'Scholastic Metaphysics' so you know were the rationalists and proceeding modern philosophers are reacting against are coming from

>> No.13339888

That chart is shit. If you want to study Greek Philosophy then you need Readings in Ancient Greek Philosophy by Cohen, Curd and Reeve. Then if you enjoy that get Plato's Complete Works but not Aristotles. Aristotles Complete Works is much larger and much less readable and better to be read depending on the interest you may have. Plato's works form one cohesive philosophy based on the tetralogies.

Following that the typical academic approach to teaching Philosophy is to start with Descartes and then move on to Kant and from there you develop the aptitude for the subject and you can explore yourself. You become familiar with the method of acquiring or inducing the knowledge required to read whoever you want to read.

This chart is a waste of time. You will forget as much as you remember if not more. The only secondary sources here that I would possibly recommend is Wallis' Neoplatonism.

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>>13339888
Checked. So what do you think of this one?

>> No.13339903

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1

>> No.13339922

>>13339899

It's better. You don't even need to start where it tells you nor do you need to read Iliad and Odyssey if you're only interested in Philosophy you can just start at Early Greek Philosophy.

The Pre-Socratics are all laid back reads, not difficult at all but definitely valuable. Plato often refers back to their ideas.

Thucydides and Herodotus are also good reads if you're interested in History as a subject.

>> No.13339923

>>13339903
Huh

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>>13339903
Hmm. This guide recommends cutting down even further than this streamlined version.

>> No.13340866

>>13339648

That's way to much dude. Start with Allan Bloom's translation of The Republic and his interpretive essay. Expand based on what interests you.

>> No.13340872

>>13339648
just watch contrapoints and buy a dildo

>> No.13341083

>>13339922
>you don't need to read the Iliad or Odyssey if you're only interested in philosophy
Don't listen to this faggot. Read both as they are peak literature and still hold up today as some of the best books you will ever read. Helped shape the minds and spirits of early Greek life.

>> No.13341089

Start with Descartes. Go back to the Greeks once you’re comfortable with him.

>> No.13341120

>>13339750
>you can ignore Aristotle's works on poetics

>> No.13341136

>>13341083

But most of us can only read them in translation...

>> No.13341200

>All those secondary sources

Just read primary unless it's a difficult one

>> No.13341625

>>13339648
This board is retarded. Don’t listen to start with the greeks fags.
Read whatever you think sounds interesting. If you don’t understand it, read books that the book in question references. The History Of Political Philosophy is a great reference book to help as well.
Learning the right way means nothing if you’re bored to tears slogging through shit you don’t care about and quit.

>> No.13341825

>>13341625
This, the second philosophy book i read was the critique of pure reason, as long as you are genuinely interested you will be able to understand it with the help of YouTube videos or papers on Google