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I need help.

I'm going university soon and I'm stuck between studying STEM or humanities. I'm currently taking STEM subjects, namely maths and physics but I enjoy learning about philosophy and politics and all that gay shit. With the grades I have I could easily go for an engineering or physics degree at a really good uni. But with those grades, I can also pretty much study ANYTHING.

I've heard there's no real career options from studying philosophy/politics. But I like learning about that stuff more so than the sciences.

What should I do? Study STEM and get a good jobe? Will I still be able to learn in depth about philosophy/literature etc, ?

>> No.13314995

>university
>job
you already lost mate

>> No.13315006

Personally, I would say humanities, because it’s humane and person, you study what your passionate about. Stem to me seems like a bunch of arrogant robots, I definitely have a bias tho

>> No.13315008

>Study STEM and get a good jobe? Will I still be able to learn in depth about philosophy/literature etc, ?
Yes. No, but the financial security is far more important.

>> No.13315018

>>13314988
>I've heard there's no real career options from studying philosophy/politics.
this isn't true for undergrad, philosophy major is quite good for employment despite the reputation. that said philosophy grad school is in fact useless, but i hear this is true of the stem fields as well

i say follow your heart and major in philosophy

>> No.13315024

>>13314988
My plan is to get a phil/politics bachelor's and then go for a M.arch at a decent school, and then move abroad and do whatever.

>> No.13315104

>>13315006
Im guessing if i posted this on sci/math i would've got the opposite response.

>>13315008
:((((( This seems like the ugly truth. I wanna at least learn humanities stuff if I do stem. If I do do a phil/pol degree my family will never let me hear the end of it too.

>>13315018
My brain is tellin me stem but my heart is tellin me philosophy lol. Kind of fitting.
>philosophy major is quite good for employment despite the reputation
I guess that makes sense. Phil grads tend to have multi career jobs or so ive read.

>>13315024
Wouldn't you need some sort of stem study for an architect masters? Sorry if this is a stupid question, I've put off doing career research for too long ffs.

>> No.13315129

>>13315104
>I guess that makes sense. Phil grads tend to have multi career jobs or so ive read.
law school is a common destination. seriously look it up, phil undergrad is not that bad wrt jobs when compared to other majors (esp liberal arts)

>> No.13315177

Nice blog, faggot. Where do I unsubscribe?

>> No.13315201

>>13315104
No. Most m.arch degrees are open to all majors. Architecture is not engineering, but if I wanted an m.eng or something like that you would be right. I tried doing a b.arch but wanted to kill myself beat was a 5 year program and shit I wasn't ready for. That was a long time ago and I still like arch and have little else to do

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>>13314995
t. coping retard

>> No.13315267

>>13315129
Holy shit, that is not a bad shout at all. Law sounds pretty good although I obviously have to look into it a bit more. I imagine studying to be a lawyer/something similar is in some ways akin to studying medicine to be a doctor. Pretty rigorous.

Tbh when i say humanities I only really mean phil/pol or maybe even economics. If im not gonna study those I'd just do a pure stem degree.

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>>13315177
no i implore you please stay and help me sort out my life

>> No.13315305

>>13315234
I'm surprised most desk jockey jobs even require college degrees desu. Boomer credentialism is cancer.

>> No.13315329

>>13315296
Can I save that image?

>> No.13315377

>>13314988
If you live in a country with cheap tuition, then I’d suggest you try one of the two for a semester to see how it goes. You can always change majors.
Some unis offer an orientation year for STEM

>> No.13315404

>>13315329
No

>> No.13315406

>>13315404
Damnit, Lori

>> No.13315435

>>13314988
Choose STEM and study the humanities on your own time, that's what I did.

>> No.13315436

Become a dual major. You'll realize after a semester of two of uni that you can't go without philosophy and will become jealous of the people in the philosophy club who get to focus their efforts on philosophy. And then you'll become upset that academic philosophy feels completely ideological, so you'll want to pair it with STEM to feel more grounded

>> No.13315449

>>13315377
I live in the UK mate. Not gonna happen.

>> No.13315619

>>13314988
Humanities are better imo but I went down the Stem Path cause they actually have job availability. getting a minor in a languague tho

>> No.13315660

Study maths. It covers most of the same stuff as (analytic) philsoophy, and about half the people in any given math course read continental philosophy or theology on the side. You get a couple loser STEMoids, but they tend to drop out and go into something easier/more ‘sciencey’ and the autists who just love math are generally good hearted people.

>> No.13315665

>>13314988
The humanities are a hobby at best. If you want to be financially secure you should pick a STEM job

>> No.13315692

>>13315234
account for debt ? and time of employment?

>> No.13315698

>>13315660
Studying maths is a part of STEM you silly billy. What do you think the M stands for?

>> No.13315704

>>13314988
Learn STEM, do humanities on your spare time.

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>>13315006
> humanities, because it’s humane and person, you study what your passionate about. Stem to me seems like a bunch of arrogant robots
Having such a dualistic, contrary perception of what merely happen to be separate groups of academic disciplines relies upon a false assumption that people who work in those disciplines are, indeed, somehow all collectively different from each other, and that only good qualities you admire are found in one, whereas the others are absent in the same parts of the human spirit.
Are they not human too, even in spite of not having studied in the "Humanities"? Do you believe that physicists, chemists, or biologists have no true curiosity for natural phenomena? Are mathematicians and computer scientists not no less uninterested in logical patterns, sequences, and groups no less than philosophers are?
If you merely value surface-level visible "beauty", and see nothing of worth in rational beauty too, then I could understand why you would believe this, even though I believe that this kind of attitude is nothing more than the product of ignorance.

>> No.13315925

>>13315909
have sex

>> No.13316232

Study stem and learn Phil on the side by yourself

It's easy, anyone who majors in Phil is massively wasting money

>> No.13316273

>>13314995
fpbp

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>>13315234
t. coping retard with six figures of student loan debt

>> No.13316770

>>13316232
There's quite a bit of truth to this.
You can get a copy of every single major philosopher (Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Spinoza, Locke, Hume, Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche, Russell, Whitehead, Heidegger, Wittgenstein)'s works for less than a tenth of the price of a single semester's tuition in a university. Anybody who's willing to do it should spend 6 months as a NEET doing a spiritual/philosophical journey reading a bunch of philosophical works they might be interested in instead of spending over $50k and 4 years doing the same thing.