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I can't decide if this man was right or wrong.

>> No.13314375

>>13314052
He was extremely based

>> No.13314400

>>13314052
You better be not messing with Schopenhauer.

>> No.13314516

>>13314052
Someone post Schop on women.

>> No.13315235

>>13314516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLDQVLuBbiw
He was a sexist retard.

>> No.13315274

>>13314052
wrong but there were specific things he was redpilled on. see his aesthetics for example

>> No.13316061

>>13314052
Schopie was right about the absolute state of human existence in general but his specific thoughts on women were obviously heavily warped by his own misfortunes. His metaphysics is also hit and miss.

>> No.13316366

>>13314052
> I have to be less egoistic and more responsible when I live with a partner
> oh no no

pathetic crybaby

>> No.13316424

>>13316061
Yeah, he was basically the bitter incel of the 1800s

>> No.13316477

>>13314052
he was fully right about half of the things he talked about but he was a pussy and a hypocrite
Nietzsche, Leopardi, Kierkegaard and Dostoevsky all had similar philosophical views but didn't chicken out like Schopy and try to avoid suffering.

>> No.13316490

>>13315235
>>13316061
>>13316366
>>13316424
I wish you people would actually read his works instead of regurgitate. Schopenhauer was not any more or less "sexist" than any other 19th century writer or philosoph.

>> No.13316494

>>13314052
He was the best. He spits hard truths that can depress you in there beauty and realness alike.

>> No.13316503

>>13316490
>Schopenhauer was not any more or less "sexist" than any other 19th century writer or philosoph.
JS Mill was a proto-soiboy male feminist, read his essay about women

>> No.13316533

>>13316503
Let's be honest. Mill is an outliner. When it came to judging women, many people were far more brutal than Schopenhauer who primarily considered them vain and childish.

>> No.13316755

>>13316490
> implying the period being a justification for sexism and bigotry

The Buddha lived in the 5th century BC and said that women are capable of awakening.

>> No.13316782

>>13316755
If out of 5,000 years of history, 4,950 of them happen to be "sexist", that might be a good indication that their sexism was not completely unjustified.

>> No.13317018

>>13316782
It's justified in a way that homo sapiens has significant dimorphism, so an average man can easily beat and dominate an average woman. And as you know, power corrupts.
But if you develop empathy even slightly, you quit to be sexist.

>> No.13317041

Imagine actually believing that women and men are equal. This is the one and only time I'll say it, have sex.

>> No.13317061

>>13317041
Nobody but trannies thinks this

>> No.13317103

>>13315235
That fucking ending holy shit
What a ride
I might actually have to read this guy someday

>> No.13317115

>>13317018
>acknowledges the inferiority of the gender
>bro just be empathetic and ignore it though

>> No.13317142

>>13317115
>the only way you can keep your tribe continuing though childbirth
>essential for properly raising a child to adulthood as a productive member of the tribe

But dey inferior cause I can beat dem up
What diseased semen leaked you into the world?

>> No.13317158

>>13317115
Cats are weaker than you too –do you oppress cats? Being compassionate is a sign of a mind that went beyond a screechy greedy ape.

>> No.13317220

>>13317158
Cats are literally a domesticated animal kept for human amusement. That we train to obey us. Try another comparison that doesn’t argue my point for me this time.

>> No.13317235

>>13317220
>obey us
t. Never owned a cat

>> No.13317264

>>13317018
I see that rocks are inferior to me but that doesn't mean I need to develop empathy for it. Hating something by how nature made it is also retarded and Schope probably never wrote any hate statement, all he did was rational judgements.

>> No.13317265

>>13317220
Your only point that being inferior in something gives a free pass to oppression. I honestly don't know how to counter this except for "try being more compassionate".

>> No.13317266

>>13316782
>"Hey check it out I got five retards over here and only two normal people. DOes that mean people are usually retarded?"

>> No.13317272

>>13317220
>kept for human amusement
>train to obey us
Do you talk like a machiavellian faggot in real life, too?

>> No.13317280

>>13317142
>But dey inferior cause I can beat dem up
unironically yes.

>> No.13317282

>>13317158
>do you oppress cats?
have you ever heard of this thing called having a pet?

>> No.13317284

>>13317280
Go and offer your boipussy to a lion a elephant then

>> No.13317286

>>13316477
>"Just suffer endlessly and work hard for the sole purpose of avoiding being considered weak and lazy by coping egotistical retards who think that their struggles will ever amount to anything meaningful, bro"

>> No.13317299

>>13317266
from an elitist point of view, yes.

>> No.13317311

>>13317220
you're thinking of dogs. cats will humor you sometimes but they generally do whatever they want.

>> No.13317333

>>13314052
I want to read ol Schopy, because I heard that so much of Tolstoy totally shifts after you read his shit, but I don’t know where to start and plus I just climbed out of a doomer hole and I’m liable to slip back into one.

>> No.13317338

>>13316490
Jeremy Bentham was his rough contemporary and argued that interracial lesbians should be allowed to marry. Some people aren’t products of their time.

>> No.13317345

>>13317115
>inferior, so bad
Faggot, you’re probably some anemic failure who squats behind a computer screen for eight hours a day. You’re physically inferior to a fit high school junior.

>> No.13317353

>>13317266
fucking Kek

>> No.13317355

>>13317282
> having an animal is a pet means oppression

what level of veganism is it?

>> No.13317360

>>13317338
Why shouldn’t they be allowed too?

>> No.13317372

>>13317360
they should only be allowed to marry if I get to watch them fuck

>> No.13317392

>>13317372
sounds like a reasonable view. I propose mandatory annual orgies for all persons 16 and up.

>> No.13317405

>>13317372
Fair enough can’t argue with that

>> No.13317420

>>13317235
>>13317311
If a cat does something I don't like I'd punt the shitter, only toxoplasmosis fags will disagree.

>> No.13317444

>>13317420
don’t cut yourself on all that edge

>> No.13317691
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13317691

>>13317299
>from an elitist point of view, yes.

>> No.13317695

>>13314052
Schopenhauer was the pinnacle of intellectualism by which modernity is defined, he was also the one that broke into the public discourse with the famous postulate of the Absolute Ideal:
An ideal is one which possesses, after a long development, a certain degree of permanence. An ideal is not an empty thing or a mere abstract formula; in its essence it is the true essence of the soul. It is, above all things, a spiritual substance or a kind of transcendental essence. To call a human soul anything besides a principle or a particular result is absurd. All this I should like to add, but of course I shall not do it...[9]
I've been waiting a long time for another post from Schopenhauer, so I'll post something. In this brief post I will address how the transcendental view of consciousness and self-awareness is a result, not an actualization, of the principle of freedom.
Let us examine how this principle was born; that is, it is the realization of egoism as a result of the concept of "ego" by Kant himself in The Critique of Modern Philosophy.

>> No.13317735

>>13317286
it will at least amount to making you more than a passive indolent faggot for one thing

>> No.13317774

>>13317735
haha you think you do things but you don't trololol
>imagine thinking you're an unmoved mover

>> No.13318662

>>13314052
Right about life wisdom. Wrong about the rest.
The whole 'the will is the real thing in itself' retardation really brings him down. He would have been a better writer had he never read kant.
Consider him like the stoics. Read them for their life advice and overlook, and smile at the bizarro eternal fire stuff.

>> No.13318670

Where do I start with his works?

>> No.13318671

>>13317158
I don't whiteknight them on the internet and try to discredit the idea that they're inferior.

>> No.13318693

are humans inferior because a lion could easily kill several of us without preptime

>> No.13318708

>>13318693
physically inferior. now consider that an average man could simultaneously beat several average women at chess before killing them, without prep time

>> No.13318724

>>13317061
And trannies are freak men.

>> No.13318747

>>13318708

hmm, maybe. not sure if thats true though

>> No.13318749

>>13318670
His text on women. It's top banter.

>> No.13318793

>>13318747
average man definitely beats average women at chess then kills several of them. maybe making it a simul was an exaggeration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adXPdn3c2BI&t=0m10s

>> No.13318811

>>13317266
Yes, of course.
Retard.

>> No.13318856

>>13317266
..yes? That's what you would reasonably infer from that sample size.