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Renounce the flesh. Temper your desire. Do this and you will know peace.

>> No.13313590

Sex is great, fuck off. Your denial of flesh is making you jaded and insufferable.

>> No.13313593

>>13313590
t. cumbrain

>> No.13313597

>>13313593
Literally have sex lol

>> No.13313596

>>13313590
this. there might be stuff morally problematic about sex (particularly the casual kind) but it's not the fact that it feels good

>> No.13313604

>>13313590
based and saxpilled

>> No.13313615

>>13313534
nice meme

>> No.13313617
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13313617

Stop repressing your sexuality

>> No.13313622

so do am i supposed to cut my balls off too or is it just my cock

>> No.13313647
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>>13313590
>Sex is great, fuck off.
t.

>> No.13313653

Oh yeah baby! Fuckin and suckin thats my life

>> No.13313664
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>>13313617
t. IFLscience pop-sci tier understanding of Freud retard

In fact, Freud KNEW the value of celibacy/transmutation and later practiced it!
>Sigmund Freud Psychologist, founder of Psychoanalysis: “Freud held the opinion (based on personal experience and observation) that sexual activity was incompatible with the accomplishing of any great work. Since he felt that the great work of creating and establishing psychotherapy was his destiny, he told his wife that they could no longer engage in sexual relations. Indeed from about the age of forty until his death Freud was absolutely celibate “in order to sublimate the libido for creative purposes.” – according to his biographer Ernest Jones.

>> No.13313666

>>13313590
You're the most aggressive and difficult person ITT

>> No.13313691

>>13313664
More like the faggot couldn't get it hard any more.

>> No.13313697

>>13313666
That's my high test actually

>> No.13313698

>>13313666
t. incel

>> No.13313704

>>13313664
freud was very conservative, this is nothing worth replicating. you did btfo >>13313617 though.

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>>13313622
The source of your problems lies in the brain and and ultimately rests in your own thoughts and actions.

>> No.13313775

>>13313593
t. coping incel

>> No.13313778

>>13313534
Oooh, uh, is that a Plato-sanctioned meme? Cause it seems to have completely missed the point. Eros gives the soul wings: "But when one who is fresh from the mystery, and saw much of the vision, beholds a godlike face or bodily form that truly expresses beauty, first there comes upon him a shuddering and a measure of that awe which the vision inspired, and then reverence as at the sight of a god: and but for fear of being deemed a very madman he would offer sacrifice to his beloved, as to a holy image of deity." (Phaedrus 240ish). Look into the Timaeus, we are probably not supposed to cum all the time (especially when a person is trying to reach perfection of soul) because the cum (not the physical substance, but it's presence's effect on our soul) is the vital energy that is the basis of the work. Timaeus argues for a chigong-like meditation process in which you work the energy of the seed, through two channels weaving around your spine, up to your brain. Masturbate while using your breath to tune your chakras, working the energy up the back of your spine on the inhale and down the front of the body on the exhale. Breathe silently, reverse the natural flow of your breath, breath from your navel, push your stomach in for inhale, out for exhale. This is alchemy, get accustomed to true reality. Join consciousness and energy. This is the goal of Hinduism, Taoism, and Platonism. The shadows in the cave are just all things as they appear in the world of becoming, transient horseshit. Why would sex be so demonized if it weren't so essential to overthrowing the powers that are trying to keep us as worker sheep. Sex is the key, just stop cumming all the time and use it as a means of overcoming the material world and the cycle of rebirth.

>> No.13313784

>>13313691
This is a meme. Age doesn't bring impotence unless someone is very unhealthy. It actually can increase sexual frequency due to behavioral crystallization of habit. That's why the "cumbrain" is no meme. Sexual habit only gets worse with time and competes against intellectual resources.

>> No.13313789

>>13313617
He used the deviant sexsual desire of his "patients" to exploit them.

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>>13313778
>botching Plato and everything so bad so it can fit into your "sex is the key" voodoo bullshit trying to shoehorn Hinduism, Taoism and Platonism into one cohesive "goal".
Cringe.
(and wrong)

PLATO'S REPUBLIC
BOOK XI
""
Of course.
And if there be a pleasure in being filled with that which is according to nature, that which is more really filled with more real being will more really and truly enjoy true pleasure; whereas that which participates in less real being will be less truly and surely satisfied, and will participate in an illusory and less real pleasure?

Unquestionably.
Those then who know not wisdom and virtue, and are always busy with gluttony and sensuality, go down and up again as far as the mean; and in this region they move at random throughout life, but they never pass into the true upper world; thither they neither look, nor do they ever find their way, neither are they truly filled with true being, nor do they taste of pure and abiding pleasure. Like cattle, with their eyes always looking down and their heads stooping to the earth, that is, to the dining-table, they fatten and feed and breed, and, in their excessive love of these delights, they kick and butt at one another with horns and hoofs which are made of iron; and they kill one another by reason of their insatiable lust. For they fill themselves with that which is not substantial, and the part of themselves which they fill is also unsubstantial and incontinent.

Verily, Socrates, said Glaucon, you describe the life of the many like an oracle.
"""

>> No.13313822

can't stop won't stop

>> No.13313844

>>13313805
That doesn't refute shit. The downward-looking cattle are taking pleasure in material things, I'm talking about the pleasure that is brought through meditation on the immaterial form of beauty. What is the opposite of giving in to sensual desire? Resisting ejaculation in the throes. Holding the delight in front of oneself and renouncing it for the purpose of a greater pleasure. your shit is stupid. Are you saying that the Phaedrus does not argue that Eros is essential to the spiritual ascent or that Timaeus says to move the seed from the balls to the brain? Again, your shit is stupid. But if you try the practice I'm talking about you will feel the definite physiological effects within a month and it will change the way you see the world. You're welcome.

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>>13313822
t.

>> No.13313860

>>13313534
imagine the sweat running over the womens' bodies in that cave

>> No.13313862

>>13313784
People might take you more seriously if you faggots didn't just blatantly make shit up like this

>> No.13313864

>>13313844
I don’t think anyone is arguing your main points, just the way you are using it as a justification for edging or whatever. I’m not familiar with Tantric thought. I know supposedly Steve Jobs was into it.

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>>13313844
>ancient Greek illiterate doesn't realize that those passages in Republic Book XI explicitly refer to Eros
>but what about Phaedrus dude, 'moving seed from balls to the brain' isn't about abstinence guys, it's about embracing sex and love dude
>"again you're shit is stupid", let me just write very verbose posts and sound like a total pseud
You know what they say. Give a fool enough rope and he'll hang himself.

>> No.13313899

once read the catholic church's celibacy practice comes more from platonism and neoplatonism than anything else. i can see that for sure here.

>> No.13313914

>>13313534
Hey guys I just wanted to know.Is starting to believe God exists after masturbating normal?

>> No.13313915

>>13313899
>implying that’s a bad thing

>> No.13313925

>>13313534
>Another inconclusive thread

>> No.13313931

>>13313805

Nowhere in that excerpt is there a causal statement made between sexual "incontinence" and not knowing wisdom.

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>>13313914
This is what I see it like

>> No.13313944

>>13313939
Oh also that scene from the Shining.You know the one.

>> No.13313987

>>13313914

Indeed, the masturbatory (male) climax is an immanent rebuke of zero-sum "Newtonian" Ontology, i.e. Man being an sterile empty vessel with no claim to the Good and it merely being transported from vessel to vessel through work that is not good. The masturbatory climax is literal proof of Man as Monad, experiencing the Good in and of himself through his own fullness and dynamism.

>> No.13314009

>>13313590
Based and sex pilled
renouncelets can only respond with catty 4chan memes

>> No.13314044

>>13314009
Slave and fleshpilled.
Cumbrains can't even respond.

>> No.13314045

>>13314044
Nothing wrong with the flesh, go to bed Paul

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>>13313596
>if it feels good, do it!

>> No.13314060

>>13314045
Holy shit based logical refutation!

>> No.13314072

>>13314060
as compared to "cumbrain trololo ;)"
we're shitposting here, don't get carried away with yourself plotinus

>> No.13314076

>>13314072
Holy shit BASED epic putdown ahhahaha

>> No.13314081

>>13314076
oh my i am being trolled epic style by your facts and logic!

>> No.13314092

Awful lot of intellectual masturbation for a thread that condemns physical masturbation.

>> No.13314101

>>13314092
>they’re the same thing
yikes you’re reaching

>> No.13314105

>>13314101
Nigger has a point though

>> No.13314122

>>13314105
Ne he doesn't, it's a lazy joke based on semantics

>> No.13314123

>>13314105
No he (you) doesn’t (don’t). Physical stimulation is not the same abstract stimulation

>> No.13314125

>>13313590
It's great in your head. If you carefully observe the process of the intercourse itself and the orgasm, it's very boring and carnal. I'm married for almost a decade and we both stopped wanting sex eventually. Nowadays meditation is better than sex.

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>>13314123
>Physical stimulation is not the same abstract stimulation

>> No.13314135

>>13314130
>I’ll post memefaces, that’s an argument
oh cumbrain

>> No.13314147

>>13314125
Well I'm sorry to hear that

>> No.13314157

>>13314147
Thank you but not being a slave to desires is more liberating than being able to satisfy them all.

>> No.13314170

>>13314157
That's a weird way of saying you found out your actually gay

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>>13314135
>I'll call him a cumbrain, that's an argument
oh sweetie...

>> No.13314179

>>13313590
Sex is great in the right application. Based and salacious acts out of "it feels good" is an outright denial of good virtue

>> No.13314185

>>13314170
Would be glad to be bisexual but I tried fapping to gay/trap porn both sober and drugged, it didn't work out.

>> No.13314193

>If youre not obsessed with sex youre gay

Why are cumbrains like this?

>> No.13314202

>>13314193
It's hard to believe that sex may mean very little when you are in the 14-24 age range. I wouldn't believe I can stop wanting it either when I was younger.

>> No.13314206

>>13314193
Being "obsessed" with sex is a natural human state. If you lose interest in sex it means something is definitely wrong

>> No.13314231

>>13314193
The irony is that sodomites depart from natural law and are the most perverse in frequency and number of partners. So they're the cumbrains of cumbrains.

>> No.13314237

>>13314206
>>13313647

>> No.13314245

>>13314206
> natural human state fallacy
Go beyond being an ape driven by DNA-coded instincts.

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>>13314231
>natural law

>> No.13314255

I'd probably actually like sex more if I actually was aiming for what the ultimate goal of it is. Its just a passtime for some social credit at this point. Its ultimately worthless

>> No.13314259

The level of rationalization incels have about sex is sad. Blabbing on about resisting sexual urges is still obsessing about sex. There is a healthy and unhealthy amount of desire for anything. Food, sex, anything.

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>>13314245
>"animalistic is bad" fallacy
Embrace the ape you weak faggot

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>>13314206
>Follow human state, it's natural bro!

>> No.13314265

>>13314206
>ITS NATURAL DUDE
I want to be like a God.
Not an animal.
He might not exist but in going to damn well strive for being as godlike as possible instead of debasing myself further and further until death.

>> No.13314272

>>13314261
>Posts a guy with severe and strict routines and dedication to craft
Totally animal bro, natural!

>> No.13314277

>>13313597
Make me, cumbrain

>> No.13314279

>>13313857
far too late for that

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>>13314279
You can still redeem yourself.

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>>13314261
What are the benefits? Running around for status and coitus until you are dead?
>>13314265
>He might not exist but in going to damn well strive for being as godlike as possible instead of debasing myself further and further until death.
Just achieve the perfection and transcend both being and not-being.

>> No.13314321

>>13314123
End goal is the same, it's a selfish stimulation of baser functions for the purpose of self-gratifying pleasure. The main difference is that by doing this here you're showing other people your abstract cum stains because it increases your pleasure.
Personally, whether physical or mental, I prefer masturbating in private, and not show off the results in public.

>> No.13314329

imagine having all of these lofty neckbeard goals instead of just living :)

>> No.13314350

>>13314329
Imagine already trying living to the fullest and being fed up with its repetitive vain "pleasures".

>> No.13314357

>>13313534
Kinda this to be honest.

>> No.13314380

>>13314265
So, like a fictional magical being other people write shit about because they need to believe in something, then twist those beliefs into pretzels as justification for doing whatever the fuck they actually wanted to do without feeling guilty about it (e.g. Deus vult, Allahu akbar et al.).

>> No.13314423

>>13314380
No.

>> No.13314646

>>13314206
>being obsessed with anything is natural
grow up
>>13314380
*tips*

>> No.13314650

>>13314646
You seem to be pretty obsessed yourself lol

>> No.13314655

>>13314650
>no you!

>> No.13314675

>>13314650
>non sequitor ad hominem followed by lol

>> No.13314678

>>13314675
sequitur

>> No.13314681

>>13314678
>spelling mistake makes you wrong
brainlet.jpg

>> No.13314699

How to stop feeling attracted to women? Is there any way to kill my sexuality and become asexual?

>> No.13314719

>>13314699
castration perhaps? a high price to pay.

>> No.13314726

>>13314699
Lead a monastic or ermetical life.
Avoid sexual images. Avoid sexual thoughts. Purify mind thought and action.

>> No.13314747

>>13314699
Recognize you'll always be attracted and aroused by women. Abstinence and celibacy are still possible if you control your environment (no sexual stimuli on electrical devices or literature) and thoughts and eyes when about. Celibacy and heterosexuality are not mutually exclusive. If practiced seriously and correctly, you can do it without being frustrated or aroused.

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Was he the happiest man? What do you think lads?
Was this easier or harder than leaving after having seen woman?

>> No.13314768

>>13313534
It's true! Nikola Tesla did it and he changed the world!

>> No.13314795

>>13314768
Doesn't count. He might've fucked that female pigeon.

>> No.13314800

>>13314719
I'm pretty sure hormones aren't located in your penis. If you meant chemical, maybe.

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>>13314768
based
>>13314795
t. reddit

>> No.13314831

>>13313664
ernest jones's biography is filled with lies

>> No.13314832

>>13314699
Yes, read Theravada Buddhist literature. Their monks are quite strict and some traditions like Thai Forest are truly ascetic. DhammaTalks.org is your friend.

t. becoming asexual thanks to regular Buddhist practices

>> No.13314851

>>13314831
>I don't like it so I'll say it's filled with lies even though it was the only official biography ever authorized by Freud and the only controversy was not over the biography but his own psychoanalytic perspective conflicting with Freud's
t. Never read Freud.
t. Never read the biography.
t. Retard talking out of his ass.

>> No.13314862

Sex is good. Masturbation is acceptable. Porn destroys your brain

>> No.13314867

>>13314699

Masturbate.

>> No.13314885

>>13314867
This just makes everything worse. It only satisfies for a half hour. In the long run your making the habit even stronger and have more control over life. It's like suggesting to drink salt water to quench your thirst.

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13314886

Semen Retention has been written about by different cultures around the world for a millenia

Its important to know the function of sex, the time and place.

You can fuck but you also don't have to cum either.

Read into the Tao exercises for internal ejaculation. Mantak Chia is a good resource for this.

Like all things, there needs to be a balance. You cannot be celibate and reach enlightenment, even the buddhists have had to practice copulation for spiritual purposes.

>> No.13314932

>>13314862
t. YBOP junk science and /r/nofap cope because they just want to replace their hand with a woman..
All sexual actions incur a physiological penalty.
I've done all of them. They aren't much different from one another in terms of effects. All leave you tired, disorganized and unmotivated.
>>13314886
>You can fuck but you also don't have to cum either.
This is the worst advice of all.
This makes you aroused all the time and defeats the cognitive benefits of abstinence as you'll be in a prolonged state of hypofrontality (most pronounced WHEN sexually aroused).
>Read into the Tao exercises for internal ejaculation.
'Internal ejaculation' is pseudoscience. The process is harmful, can damage sex and urinary sytems, frequently results in hematospermia, and WOULDN'T WORK ANYWAYS because the 'internal ejaculate' goes into the bladder which is a hostile enviroment for the semen and lacks the epithelial tissue to reabsorb its constituents as would have been the case within the vesicles for instance. Regardless, the benefits do not come from this but from forgoing the neurochemical and hormonal consequence that accompany arousal, activity and orgasm.

>> No.13314950

>>13314932
Agree, Tao is bullshit based on the whole pseudoscience of Qi energies. Simply deconstructing the desire itself is much more efficient. Not only it removes sexual urges from your life but you also can apply the same approach to abandon sugar, drugs, even browsing 4chan all night.

>> No.13314968

>>13314885

See:

>>13313987

The more vulgar your idea of sex is, the more you think it is a means to achieve one's climax, the more you are forced to concede that skillful and diligent masturbation destroys the conflation of one's climax with the other, thus ending sexuality itself not as cyclical quantitative reprieve but as eternal qualitative rebuke.

>> No.13315122

>>13314968
This and the >See: post are examples of being a complete and total pseud.

>> No.13315130

Cumbrains refuted to the ground ITT. Where’s your God now? Scorning you! For you have sinned against the body you were given, but it is not yours, it belongs to Him.

>> No.13315131

>>13315122
shut up nigger they're infinitely more interesting than your gay gerber baby reddit thoughts

>> No.13315189

Desire can be good and can be bad. Sexual desire can be good if aimed towards the end of procreation, what sexual desire is designed for. Sex without procreation is much like food without hunger. It makes you a loser.

>> No.13315194

>>13315130
You probably fapped 4 times today to trannies and loli hentai, autistic LARPer poltard whore.

>> No.13315211

>>13315194
>everyone must secretly be as depraved as myself, otherwise I’ll become self-aware.

>> No.13315219

Just experiment.
Oh wait fuck, cumbrains actually can't because they are bound by their addiction and can not abstain for a prolonged time.

>> No.13315224

>>13315211
You're on fucking 4chan you obese bisexual asperger fucking american bitch, stop LARPing as some orthodox russian monk you fucking joke of human being, let me guess, did you """convert""" after the 2016 election, right? fucking autistic incel.

>> No.13315232

>>13315219
People always say that they’re not addicted but when you ask them if they could stop whacking it to porn for even two weeks they’re always like: why would I ever do that?

>> No.13315242

>>13315194

He quoted Paul so he's definitely depraved.

>> No.13315257

>>13315224
I have a schizo uncle and he communicates better than you. I’m not claiming to be some ascetic buddha, but I did refrain from masturbation for an entire year. It’s not even that difficult. Also, I’m not a trump tard, nor even a racialist. Do you seriously need to believe that you opposition in an argument is some mental caricature you made so you may feel more comfortable with your flaws?

>> No.13315264

>>13315224
Classical case of projection.

>> No.13315272

>>13315242
Augustine quoted Paul. Did that make him depraved?

>> No.13315279

>>13315272

Yes, very.

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>>13314766
I thing that's the perfect recipe for gay butt sex orgies

>> No.13315346

>>13314699
Patikulamanasikara

>> No.13315372

>>13315326
t. Reddit sodomite

>> No.13315399

>>13313653
I kekked.

>> No.13315434

>>13315372
The bull is HIV positive what to do?

>> No.13315460

>>13314254
Kill yourself.

>> No.13315487

>>13315272
Ever read his Confessions?

>> No.13315511

While reading this thread I forgot I still had a tissue clutched over my flaccid cum drained cock. When I tried to remove the tissue some small parts clung to my penis and I have to pick them off.

>> No.13315542

>>13315487
Reading Paul helped him over come his old ways.

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>>13315511
D

>> No.13315578

>>13315511
>imaging doing it so much that only a few drops come out weak enough for a paper tissue on top to actually do the job
yikes. I always thought the tissue shit was a meme or used to wipe their disgusting floors until I realized how fucking often cumbrains go. They literally just use small sheet and place it on top to catch the few specs that come out.

>> No.13315639

>>13315194
Repent, now

>> No.13315652

Procreate.

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>>13313653
>thats my life
"What marvel then was it that an unhappy sheep, straying from thy flock and impatient of thy care, I became infected with a foul disease? This is the reason for my love of griefs: that they would not probe into me too deeply (for I did not love to suffer in myself such things as I loved to look at), and they were the sort of grief which came from hearing those fictions, which affected only the surface of my emotion. Still, just as if they had been poisoned fingernails, their scratching was followed by inflammation, swelling, putrefaction, and corruption. Such was my life! But was it life, O my God? "

But IS it life?

>> No.13315811

>>13313534
If only I didn’t have a based qt russian gf and this was possible

>> No.13315871

>>13313534
this post will destroy incels

there is no reason NOT to fuck as many people as you please to. morality, demurity, chastity, virginity are all spooks. be smart and you won't get an std or unwanted pregnancy. there's literally no consequence. if you want a few extra years to slut around before getting a husband just keep in shape and take care of your skin. the majority of women are obese trash who age themselves 10+ years. a well kept 30 year old looks better than an absolute slob 22 year old. by the time he learns your real age he'll already be hooked and it won't matter. "ah baby you're perfect, god you're so hot and fuck so good, but this number on this piece of paper is too high so I'm afraid I have to leave you and be single, bitter, and miserably lonely for another 5 years, by which time i'll be fat and balding and no woman will want me." yeah, nah.

further. i've fucked tons of married men and their wives quite obviously don't know jack shit. you can cheat on your partner very easily. again, have safe sex, no stds or pregnancies, and there is no possible consequence.

men only know your "number" if you tell them.

reminder that if men were as desired as women, they'd be even bigger sluts than we are. anyone saying female promiscuity is "bad" is bitter grapes personified. if you COULD fuck, you would. the term is "incel" not "volcel." if incels could become chad tomorrow and fuck 1000 people they would in a heartbeat.

>m-muh roast

there's no difference taking one dick 200 times or 200 dicks one time, or even a dildo 200 times. either way, that's not how anything works, you retarded incel mongrels. my pussy is picture perfect.

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>>13315871
using condoms
not even skin contact, disgusting.

>> No.13316346

>>13315871
>morality, demurity, chastity, virginity are all spooks.
So is sexual pleasure. I just fapped after 10-12 days and remembered again why it sucks. Was observing the process of arousal and orgasm: shallow carnal feelings of excitement that aren't even close to the clarity of mind during a good meditation.

My only problem that after a couple of weeks, the desire gets too itchy and it feels like by fapping I will get rid of it for a while. I shouldn't submit next time though. Once-a-month is more than enough until I hit somewhere around 40 and it will be easier to decrease even further.

>> No.13316569

>>13313534
Okay but I'm not going to worship a dead jew on a stick

>> No.13316596

>>13315871
6/10, decent bait

>> No.13316613

>>13315871
Effective but boring bait. I'd rather read a sneedpost, at least those are funny

>> No.13316622

>>13316346
man I can't even make it past five days. In fact, the last time I made it that long was after marathoning Katawa Shoujo, but it was still only five days. I think since then my best streak has been 3 days. Going to sleep is the hardest part, it's like succubi start attacking my mind. I need some talismans or some shit

>> No.13316740

>>13315871
4/10 larp

>> No.13316980

>>13316622
Once in 3 days is a decent result if you are <23-25. But overall try abstracting yourself from the desire: it exists but you don't have to follow it, keep switching your attention to other thoughts.

>> No.13317043

>>13316980
yeah I am going to be 25 in July. and honestly I just don't try that hard to be nofap. I quit smoking and drinking coffee effortlessly, because I wanted to quit. I just haven't REALLY wanted to quit fapping yet. i do in the abstract but not in reality. you know what I mean. thanks for the tipz

>> No.13317186

>>13316622
Because of your own thoughts an inability to remove yourself from stimulus. Not gonna make it. Abstinence should make you less horny if you actually practice it.

>> No.13317515

any books on this?

>> No.13317942

>>13317515
see >>13314832

>> No.13317969

desu nofap is just low test men coping with their inherent inability to function normally. nothing wrong with it but this incessant attention whoring may prove otherwise

>> No.13317984

>>13313590
>Sex is great
have sex incel

>> No.13318015

>>13317969
desu desu desu
a ton of people in nofap movement is actually trying to quit porn addiction
>>13317984
yep, it's great like the first 1-3 years (depends on your libido), then it wears out like a favorite video game: still good but the novelty is gone and no amount of mods can make it amazing again

>> No.13318794

>>13317969
It's the opposite of anything. The high testosterone makes these distractions more real and men take steps to avoid the disruption in their life. A low t cuck would be satisfied and easily be able to moderate it.

>> No.13318935

>>13313590
Sex is amazing, you're right. Why waste it on hags when you can save it for someone worthwhile?

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>>13318935
>“When you have savouries and fine dishes set before you, you will gain an idea of their nature if you tell yourself that this is the corpse of a fish, and that the corpse of a bird or a pig; or again, that fine Falernian wine is merely grape-juice, and this purple robe some sheep’s wool dipped in the blood of a shellfish; and as for sexual intercourse, it is the friction of a piece of gut and, following a sort of convulsion, the expulsion of some mucus. Thoughts such as these reach through to the things themselves and strike to the heart of them, allowing us to see them as they truly are. So follow this practice throughout your life, and where things seem most worthy of your approval, lay them naked, and see how cheap they are, and strip them of the pretences of which they are so vain.” - 6:13

>> No.13319338

>>13314157
Wow, that was beautifully put and i know and have experienced what youre talking about. But i eventually relapsed and wanna fuck. Satori/samadhi sent me spiraling down hard lol.

>> No.13319348

>>13319303
How fucking pathetic
>j-just be a reddit reductionist bro!

>> No.13319375

>>13319348
>Sex is amazing DUDE
vs
>Marcus Aurelius exposing what the act is whenever you remove emotion from the equation

The first post is 100x more reddit than that.

>> No.13320239

>>13319348
Is there any anti-sex subreddit though? NoFap is more about moderation afaik.

>> No.13320336

I've always been a romantic faggot and wanted sex more for intimacy than for pleasure. I'm in university right now and I hate how transactional sex is here

>> No.13320441

>>13320239
Nofap is a bad place to browse. Counterproductive. Don't go to reddit period. Bad people there. Bad place. Be resolute, do not waver. True encouragement and resolve comes from within.

>> No.13320469

>>13319375
A human is only a corpse if you remove his brain from the equation.

>> No.13320815

>>13317043
I've been there man. I can't really give an end all cure to such a thing but I will say a big event hit me when I was trying to fap and it just put a mental block in place for me.

>> No.13320823

>>13317043
worse than cigarettes and coffee.
harder than opiates to kick.
sexual behaviors are so ingrained in most people they seldom overcome them.

>> No.13320840

>>13316346
Congrats bro, I hit 40 once and when I relapsed, it sucked, it wasn't like this huge flood of sexual excitement that finally came out, it was just like scratching an itch. Keep at it, 40's a solid number.

>> No.13320861

>>13320840
A man at 40 days of abstinence will have less sexual urges than a man who is sexually active at 40 years of age.

>> No.13321483

this thread really made me think

>> No.13321739

>>13320336
Yep, transactional one-night stands suck. Find an introverted lady for LTR and enjoy your intimacy.

>>13320840
Yes, I noticed too that it's harder to abstain from fap/sex after breaking a good calm pause. Scheduling it really helps me: right now I have 2 "slots": one around the 1st day of the month and the other around the 15th. If I can keep like this for a year, I'll try switching to the once-a-month schedule.

>> No.13322951

Bump

>> No.13322996

>>13321739
Not him but it's a hormonal rebound. They level off and stay very consistent when abstinent.

>> No.13323442

lol the first time i looked at this pic, i didn't even notice the guys on the right because i was too busy looking at the flesh slaves

>> No.13323896

Keeping the wholesome thread alive so more anons can see it and join us.

>> No.13323926

>>13314766
>onastery

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>>13313534
Why do these desiccated fools appropriate classical aesthetics when the Greeks were, in their vernacular, "cumbrains"?

>> No.13324003

this sistem we live is trully perverse

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>> No.13324230

>>13313534
I can definitely go celibate but im not sure about not reading doujin anymore. Almost fap thrice daily.

>> No.13324295

just reiterating everything that the chaste anons said is true. cutting out pornography and masturbation is one of the best things you can do for you life

>> No.13324335

>"Davis: You can't come [cum], then fight or play. You can't do it. When I get ready to come, I come. But I do not come and play. Interviewer: Explain that in layman's terms. Davis: Ask Muhammad Ali. If he comes, he can't fight two minutes. Shit, he couldn't even whip me. Interviewer: Would you fight Muhammad Ali under those conditions, to prove your point? Davis: You're goddam right I'd fight him. But he's got to promise to fuck first. If he ain't going to fuck, I ain't going to fight. You give up all your energy when you come. I mean, you give up all of it! So, if you're going to fuck before a gig, how are you going to give something when it's time to hit?"

>"...She took me to a sanatorium to talk with this shrink. He asked me did I ever masturbate and I told him, no. He couldn't believe that. He told me that I should do that every day instead of shooting dope. I thought that maybe he should put his own goddamn self in the nuthouse if that's all the motherfucker had to tell me. Masturbating to break a habit? Shit, I thought that motherfucker was crazy." (Quotes from 1975 Playboy interview: http://navattack.com/post/29739826886/davis-you-cant-come-then-fight-or-play-you and The Autobiography MILES DAVIS with Quincy Troupe: )

>> No.13324597

>>13313590

this is the classic incel mindset
and don't be fooled even if you are not a virgin you can still have this mindset as well and many do

>> No.13325431

>>13324335
Further proof masturbation is worse than opioids.

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>Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.