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/our guy/ Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937), a founding member of the Italian Communist Party, condemned Negro music in one of his prison letters. He wrote in 1928:

"If there is danger, it is rather in the music and dance imported into Europe by the Negroes. This music really conquered a whole fringe of the cultivated European population, it even created a real fanaticism. How can one imagine that the continual repetition of the physical gestures that negroes make while dancing around their fetishes, or that always listening to the syncopated rhythm of jazz bands, remains without ideological consequences?

(a) It is an enormously diffuse phenomenon, affecting millions and millions of people, especially young people;
(b) they are very energetic and violent impressions, leaving deep and lasting marks;
c) it is about musical phenomena, thus of manifestations which express themselves in the most universal language which exists today, in a language which communicates more quickly than any other the images and impressions of a civilization not only foreign to ours, but (...) primitive and elementary, so easily assimilable and generalizable by music and dance to the entire psychic world. "

And Gramsci concludes that the Westerner is "becoming a nigger, without realizing it".

(Antonio Gramsci, letter to Tania Schucht, February 27, 1928)

Nearly a hundred years after he wrote this, I daresay he was tragically right

>> No.13306125

>>13306119
why are left-wingers/Democrats so racist? do they all have small penises or something?

>> No.13306139

>>13306119
What a cultural Marxist nutjob(like the rest of these post modernists). Cure yourself of this degeneracy by reading JPB, op; and I mean it unironically

>> No.13306143

>>13306119
there's literally nothing wrong with jazz music. sounds like he was salty that europeans enjoyed jazz more than whatever shitstain italian composer he jerked off to
he's right if you apply it to rap music though and I say that as someone who grew up as the whiteboy in the all-black school and listened exclusively to rap music until I was an adult.

>> No.13306148

>>13306119
He was so right it's not even funny. I can only imagine what he'd think of the black ghetto conquering mass culture today. It's not hard to indict jazz in hip hop's base degeneracy, there is a direct lineage.

>> No.13306186

>>13306119
In future history books they will talk about how the culture of an emancipated slave race became coveted by their former masters -- and how it came to predominate everything. Really an incredible metamorphosis. What is it about White America that made African American culture so attractive to it? If it's anyone's "fault", it's the white man's, correct?

>> No.13306217

>>13306119
his teachings just accelerated this process by putting a bunch of brainlet revolutionaries in the academia

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Based and redpilled

>> No.13306291

>>13306139
>JPB
Jiff Peanut Butter?

>> No.13306295

>>13306186
If you want to blame people specifically, then blame the producers, promoters, and publishers of the music. They do not self-identify as "white".

>> No.13306536

>>13306186
The masters of White societies cultural high grounds are not themselves White. An alienated gatekeeper class that holds the society in contempt is the explanation for why enforced boundaries and expulsion of deviations did not occur to keep the out-groups culture and values outside the group.

>> No.13306549

>>13306119
Why are black Americans so gifted at creating new musical movements? Jazz, R&B, hip hop, etc.

>> No.13306552

>>13306549
They stole it from the arabians

>> No.13306555

>>13306552
yeah bro everyone knows arabian jazz is the good shit...?

>> No.13306689

>>13306549
All objectively shit, devoid of melody, shuck and jiving around fetish totems.

>> No.13306692

>>13306295
No, you don't. If their culture was of lesser worth, it wouldn't survive on the free market and it would be outcompeted by superiour culture.

>> No.13306805

>>13306549
at least they're more creative than "white" Americans, I'll give you that

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>mfw the far right, especially the French far right, is a big fan of Gramsci and have used his work far more effectively than the far left has since the fall of communism
how ironic

>> No.13306841

>>13306139
JB gets most of his critique of post-modernism from Stephen Hicks and his book does a pretty shit job

>> No.13306864

>>13306826
this is still weird to me. why were they reading up on gramsci of all things

>> No.13306869

>>13306864
why not?

>> No.13306871 [DELETED] 

>>13306186
It is the White man's fault, but of they will blame the Jews, as if they lacked the capital to produce, promote, and publish the music that wasn't offensive to their sense.

>> No.13306872

>>13306692
free market doesn't choose between superior e inferior goods. Only between the more popular, which can be inferior, as is the case.

>> No.13306913

>>13306826
It still amazes me how contemporary right wingers, even here on this website, have been deeply influenced by Gramsci and yet most don't seem to realize it

>> No.13306921

>>13306555
Turkish jazz and rock from the 70s is unironically goat-tier

>> No.13306923

>>13306864
Because the right isn't as narrow minded and caught in an echo chamber as the left :^)

>> No.13306958

>>13306217
this

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>>13306143

>> No.13307046

>>13306217
can you give an example of such "teachings"?

>> No.13308048

>>13306923
this is true

>> No.13308391

>>13306125
We don’t know for sure but he was actually a hunchback Sardinian midget

>> No.13308403

>>13306864
Because most of his writings are from the days he was imprisoned by the Fascists. He was allowed to write but had to be careful not to use outright marxist or leftist terminology, since he was certainly controlled